You are a brave man to take on this job ! Merry Christmas

You need to lock your cams and have the variators loose if you have any hope of correct timing. That will have been a severe struggle installing chains without the cam sprockets floating. Your last install is with the tension side variator in your hand with the chain around it. You have a counterhold hex on the cam to loosen the variator bolt and lock the cams together with two bolts in a piece of flat bar across the cams as they will not be in a neutral position. Most tensioners on Euros do not have a ratchet, full tension is applied hydraulically using oil pressure, the spring in the tensioner is only there to maintain position until oil pressure rises after starting. We had poorly manufactured chains on some italian vehicles back in 2015/2016 which set correlation codes at start up. Most were replaced whilst still under warranty as this occurred with low mileage, however chain wear is generally a result of infrequent oil changes and/or poor quality engine oil. The oil pick up will be full of plastic so it's sump off.

Great outstanding work! Timing is everything! Between you & Eric O you both are tops in your field . It’s hard to find good techs that are honest . You & Eric would make great teachers in this line of work .Merry Christmas 🎄 😊

I can't wait until part 9 when you drop the oil pan..

Merry Christmas Iven.... Hope you post Part 5 on Christmas day, as your video's are way better than all the repeats seen on UK tv.

Thanks Ivan, PAD has quickly become one of my favourite car repair channels. I can't wait for the footage of you driving this car with perfect timing. The owner was lucky to have you figure it all out.

It looks like the "special lock tool" could be replaced with just a piece of flat bar with two holes drilled in it, plus a couple of bolts.

I completed a similar timing chain replacement on Chrysler 200. Chain are setup the same way. The right hand varaitors also wanted to snap toward. Just as you did I put a wrench to unload the tension and removed the old chain. I had to remove the cams on each side to install the cam chains with the new tensioners. Just as you did. I laid out one side only and removed the cam caps in order. I discovered the shop that my friend stopped work on. Had put the crank out of time. I also discovered the shop had beaten the crap out of the timing sprocket. They were attempting to install the wrong timing set also. I had to reorder the correct timing set and water pump also. It was the water pump that clued me on the wrong year too. After all the correct parts arrived. I loosen both cam caps on each side so the valves were all closed. Set the crank per specs. Then started reinstalling the cam chains and timing chains. The job was about 6.5 hours total. Between my work schedule and wrong parts and delivery time. About 1.5 week delay. The car ran smooth on the first start and customer was very pleased.

You are not only a brilliant electronics master watching you wade through that maserati past sell by date timing chain issue you are obviously a pretty darn good mechanic . drive defensively and keep breathing .best wishes from Portugal

Nice job ivan. It is common for timing chains to stretch on all makes and models in the uk. But none of us would touch a maserati. Your a brave man lol. Nice work ivan.

If each pin on one cam chain increased "play" by .002", that would mean ((27 + 27 + 6) X 2 ) x .002" = .240" additional length in a cam chain. That's why proper lubrication is vital. Happy Holidays!

Stay safe Ivan! And stay warm. Thanks for the videos.

Hello from Australia Ivan 🙃 It's now time for us to relax and celebrate. May you and your family have a safe and happy Christmas that is full of making happy memories.. 🍻🎄🎉 Many thanks for doing what you do..

On motorcycle drive chains, the method to determine wear is often side flex. Lay the chain out and flex it sideways.

Ivan, great series of videos on this car, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Looking forward to seeing the final part.

Last time I did a job like this, I took 30 minutes and made my own camshaft hold-down tools out of bar stock and a few bolts. It's SO much easier to get the chains lined up when you're not fighting against the valve spring pressure on the camshafts.

Merry Christmas, great video

Merry Christmas, I do enjoy your videos your methodology of diagnostics is great.

That's awesome Ivan! So much entertainment on a lonely holiday! I spend my time with you guys!

Hi Ivan, Awesome job getting the new chains installed. Now to get the cover back on without smearing the gasket sealer. Happy Holidays to you and your entire family.

Nice job, Ivan. Very logical and scientific. Merry Christmas.

I m amazed by your knowledge and your workmanship

I am so enjoying this series!

Very good install. Hope this all works out well.

Sending Ivan a gift? This young man has given us a year of great learning videos. Merry Christmas Ivan and wife, cat , dog, horses. ❤️

IVAN, Bravo and great series full off ups and downs and how to approach this problem to fix it but with ur awesome thought process and thinking u did win to do the job well I hope the timing marks will be all good with the chains installed the way u did can not wait to see this is car is running. cheeeees

There is no doubt in my mind that it will run great when you get done with it. Merry Christmas

Ivan your methodical, very well thought-out approach to tackling such a formidable repair makes it seem "almost" simple! You will be well positioned to replace the timing system at the 120K mark for this vehicle, haha! I am looking forward to final reassembly and start up vid(s). Merry Christmas.

I am so troubled by the two arrows not lining up on the bank 2 phasers as is depicted in the manual. Bank 1 they are aligned, Bank 2 should be as well. That is a big STOP NOW for me.

Great episode !

I was hoping you'd upload this. Thanks Ivan.

Hi Ivan, suggest to the owner more frequent oil changes will make chains last longer. Many thanks very interesting repair, well done to you . Seasons greetings to you and your family from Nr Liverpool UK.

Happy Holidays Ivan and crew

great job, can't wait for part 5. Vrolijk Kerstfeest en een gelukkig Nieuwjaar =(merry christmas and happy new year)

I’m amazed that the old and new chain are only a few millimeters different yet the tensioners have a huge difference! The difference must be in the wear on the guides. Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Ivan to you and your family. God bless

Love your videos brother, Happy Holidays!

Good luck, Ivan. And Merry Christmas. 🎄✨

awesome sir, awesome. Merry Christmas.

Go Ivan, Merry Christmas.

I just love Ivan, "Before tearing anything apart".....as we look at a total tear apart. Lol. You are fearless Ivan, just total badass when it comes to intelligence and your ability to do anything you set your mind to. Even when you know, he should have walked away! I would have assumed that the two gold links should be at the same 6 O'Clock position, I would have been wrong for sure!

Merry Christmas Ivan!

The outlaws have just arrived for Christmas and I'm hiding in the study enjoying this 🤣🎄🎉

Ivan, I'm holding my breath on this one. Probably a lot of other viewers are doing the same thing! Merry Christmas. Thanks for Sharing!

YOUR MY HERO !! GREAT JOB THANKS FOR THIS EDUCATION . HERES TO YOUR CONTINUED SUCCESS. THANKS AGAIN MY HATS OFF TO YOU FOR MAKING ALL OF MY PROBLEMS SEEM LIKE CHILDS PLAY ... NEIL

Great job, Ivan! I can't wait to see it run again. I must say that when we replaced my wife's 1997 Camry with the 2007 model with the timing chain instead of the belt, I was relieved that maintenance would decrease. She drives a lot of miles, and it seemed I was constantly replacing the timing belt, cam seal, crank seal, and oil pump seal and gasket. One time, the new cam seal lasted only a few thousand miles before it was pouring oil out - so I think replacing it that time was a mistake - the old one was better. So the 2007 Camry now has right at 200,000 miles (maybe a bit over). I think I can hear a little noise from the chain, but no fuss from the ECM about timing. The 2007 is an oil burner, though - or was until I switched to heavier than recommended oil. Compared to a Maserati, the Camry is looking pretty good, but the dash, sun visors, and the A/C evaporator were all weak points. I don't think you missed a thing on the Maserati, but with the tool bolted to the cams, any slop in the cam phasers might have been made more visible. I'm new to VVT and those long timing chains, but I've noticed that some people recommend replacing the phasers when replacing the chains and guides. Until the 2007 Camry, all I maintained were engines with timing belts and a small-block Chevy with a relatively short timing chain. Motorcycle drive chains were where I learned about worn chains climbing out of the sprocket teeth. Keep up the great work, and Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Lookin like some light at the end of the tunnel now. I’m sure You had those timing marks figured out on the drinkers side, but I was scratching my head a bit on that but not worried. I just did a t-belt service on the 3.3 Toyota and the lower mark on the new belt was one tooth off but I knew everything was right, and it was. Nice work Ivan 👍👍

Thank you Ivan for a very nice Christmas present, part four! I didn't expect that one so soon ;-)

Timing chains and timing belts are super rewarding to do. Pulling that grenade pin is the best feeling! You can't do a timing job without an adjustable wrench handy. lol You're doing great Ivan!

That was a surprise ! Never thought the left chain was so warn it could run loose. Have not seen that before to such an extent on a 60kmiles/100kkm engine

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Good news Ivan, Maserati is looking for techs. LOL. I bet what your decision is. AThank you for the ride

Merry Christmas!

Good luck and happy holidays ivan.

You’ve got some guts doing that Ivan I had to put air in the tyres on my Aston once that was nerve wracking enough ! 😂❤

Anyone who is fortunately to have you work on their vehicle are very very lucky not only because of your highly skilled but you do a proper methodical job well done Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and your family🎉😀🍻👍👍

Genius at work! Merry Christmas to you and your family Bill N LI NY

Another great series. Maserati's have always been like this. If you have a Mazzer and you have to ask how much?...The first engine that used an intermediate cam-chain that I am aware of is the Jaguar XK in 1948, but it may be unusual in a V. At least your client ponied up the money in advance and they were trying to maintain their car. You could also teach plenty others how to stop yourself getting stiffed by a client. All the best for the hols.

Hi Ivan, you have got a new oil filter to fit as well I hope, and a spare to put in the boot so this doesn't happen again. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Great work Ivan, love these videos. One thing I'd recommend is soaking the chains in engine oil before install to assure pre-start lubrication, eliminating metal to metal contact. (old motorcycle trick). The owner should reduce miles between changes as 10K miles is probably part of the issue on the chain wearout.

Awe dawg.. you moved on out of frame to make a part 5 now. Ya got me.. Hook, line, and sinker! Can't wait to see The outcome.

Are usually don’t get on here to make no comments who is like your videos hope you and your family have a merry Christmas and a happy new year. Keep keep up the good work, and may God be with you.

A lot of the parts remind me of the 4.7 ltr V8 Chrysler engine. The last one of those I did had a tick like a bad lifter. I found broken guides and some of the bolts where nearly cut through by the chain. Also the engine was full of sludge. I had never seen such a dirty engine. The timing gears looked like a tunnel boring machine. I manually cleaned the engine the best I could and after an engine flush I had to drop the oil pan since there was an inch of sludge in the pan that blocked the oil pump intake. I would say the car needs more frequent oil changes for sure. Merry Christmas.

It's just turned Christmas Day here (10 minutes ago) and Santa has already delivered!

For a job you "weren't going to be the one to do", excellent work as always! :) My understanding (correct or not) about coloured links is they are often *not* mentioned in factory service info because they aren't actually *required* to set the timing and aren't useful to check/set the timing other than when installing new chains. It's sort of similar how most FSMs never tell you to mark the belt and sprockets or count belt teeth when you're doing a timing belt job...but almost everyone does this stuff anyway as it's more reassurance they set it right. The coloured links are used at the factory as it makes engine assembly faster but on a service job they just tell you to go by the timing marks; theoretically you could disregard the colour links/put them anywhere so long as the timing is right. You can use the coloured links of course, if you determine where they need to be, or it's pictured/obvious, or find someone that has mentioned it along with number of links, etc. online already. In any event it *would* be much nicer if they just told you what the coloured links meant/where they go, right in the manual.

The specialtool to hold the camshafts looks easy to construct yourself, 2 bolts and a metal bracket

Getting there now Ivan .👍👍

Thanks Ivan. Can't wait for the finale. However, I thought you would have lubricated the guides and chain a bit before installing. Maybe that is upcoming.

Merry Christmas Ivan, always great work and videos. As I write your comment and watch your video, I am using my 2300 LB saturn to jump start my 26,000 LB bus. Lol.

If I had to work around that giant plastic POS air tube for hours on end I think I would lose it. Congrats on being so patient with this thing.

Merry Christmas

Awesome

Just saying Ivan, but these aren't the usual - they are designed to bang out some performance, so the timing isn't just "Count links" blah blah - the intake cams can require miniscule re-setting in regards to variator position once the new chains are perfectly "installed" in order to run correctly. Even after everything is on & tightened, turned by hand a few times, you might..will... need to loosen the intake variator again & reset the intake cam position - the required tolerance on intake tappet 1 is c.a 0.6mm upstroke 15' atdc (i.E pretty damn tight tolerance..) Exhaust tappet tolerances are again c.a 0.57/0.6mm with not much lee-way...again, the variator might need loosening & the cam may need a tweak.. I.E they're a complicated git to get spot on.. plus with even a small bit of variator wear, the cams won't maintain tappet clearance sequencing..so it might run, but, erm, yeah - it might not run fantastic without jumping them hoops.. But fingies crossed here. :-) Hateful engines btw...

love those "exotic" Chrysler parts.

I somehow expected more stretch, but I did not know how much stretch equates to big changes in these systems

I would drop the sump pan on that checking the oil pick-up pipe strainer seeing the amount of missing material from the chain guides

Cant wait for the moment when you start this piece of sheet. Im sure its gonna be a success. If for some reason it is not , I already sourced some lakes around you area. A lot of European cars manufactured in the last 5-7 years have problems with low mileage timing chains lengthening. Its just terrible.

very very good job 👍👍✌️✌️

The cam "jumping" as you took off chain on driver side made me 'pucker' ,well ,a little bit.I would have been thinking -uh oh should held em some way.Definately will stay tuned for next episode!

Ivan, we're learning now why these expensive cars only come with a 4 year 50,000 mile warranty! Merry Christmas to you and the Mrs.

So I am questioning the arrows not being aligned on the driver's side. Do you think the phasers have slipped slightly? If the cams are aligned judging from the flat surface on top the phaser arrow should be aligned correct? If that is the case does the cam to phasers use a diamond washer which could have slipped possibly.

You can use 4 pairs of long nosed vice grips to lock the cams in proper position you just grab the cams in a place between lobes, and buck them up against the head somewhere.

I wonder if the bits that broke off clogged the oil pic up causing filter collapse and extra chain wear.... What's in the sump?? Merry Xmas to all...

You're the open-heart surgeon of that Maserati Ivan and Merry Christmas. If the owner can afford the car they should be able to afford the labor so 5 grand to him might be like $200.00 to others, as you know the same with BMW, MB. etc. after 3-4 years or 50-60K expensive problems set in. Cant wait to hear it run and you taking it for it's shake down drive

Since you can see the pentastar on the side of each component, no doubt it's a Chrysler motor. You have wonder though if this is an engine that Maserati chose because it fit a spec, and then added turbos on top of it stressing it beyond what was expected by the original engineers. What's not clear is how much oil starvation may have caused some of this problem, and if so, what else was damaged.

since its a chrysler engine maybe an upgraded ratchet tensioner for the passengers side? in any event you're a brave man to take on this horror show of a job...merry christmas Ivan & family!

merry christmas ivan and your wife from south wales uk

Great vidoes on this Maserati......Hope you made a profit from all the work you did on it......

Ivan, if you want to compare a new timing chain to a used one just hold both chains horizontally in mid air and compare the droop from one to the other. The newer chain will be the straightest of the two.

ok lets start it up!!!!!

Ivan, in your last vid, all the lines were where they should be after you turned the phaser. You was peeking through the phaser solenoid cover.

You're very talented. One criticism if you want to take it that way, is when I do timing chains, I always soak the chains in oil for a half hour for pre lube it so it doesn't run dry for as long as it take to get oil to the whole chain.

merry christmas

The amount of stretch on that chain is insane. Coupled with the wear on the guides and I’m surprised the engine didn’t grenade itself unless it was a non interference engine.

Better you than me! That car makes my head hurt!

Wow, your critical thinking and perseverence are very impressive in tackling this job. To think that this might have all been avoided if the manufacturer would've used a common oil filter like an FL-1A. Now that you're a Maserati specialist, I can just imagine the inflow of requests coming in from Maserati owners to fix their cars lol! Can't wait to see part 5!

From what I've read, a big problem is carbon particles in the oil from direct injected engines. These particles basically abrade the timing chains and wear out the links, which is why they "stretch." One of the big OTHER contributors to this is extremely long oil change intervals on modern engines, especially when the owner doesn't check the oil between changes. So with this vehicle, we have a very extreme example of this phenomenon. Plus the filter wasn't really doing its job on top of potential lack of lube.

Finished this episode at around 12 EST. Just returned from Christmas Eve with the relatives. Time for comments. First, thanks Ivan for the help earlier today. Yea my grandson is a smart kit. Off to college next year. Another good learning experience. Cements the, never buy a Maserati. Part 5 as a Christmas present?

You'll have that car doing 185 in no time! Can't you just see Amanda driving to her office in one of those, getting out and strutting in? Problem is, you couldn't leave the house; or you would need Keith DeFazio there while you were gone. Great video!

Now I know how to price a used Maserati with timing codes when I want to buy one. 🤣