When I play it my whole arm to the fucking shoulder gets tired like I was doing push ups on one hand for a week straight. I think this riff is necessary if you want to have full control over your wrist, endurance and speed. upd: learned it/playing it nonstop full song. Amazing track really cachy and fun to play.

"Only wrist" is literally the only possible way to do it. My picking technique is quite different compared to these guys, but when you (attempt to) play "Bleed", you have to do it their way. Otherwise it's literally impossible to pick up that much speed in that short amount of time.

he's also playing a lot lighter than most people realize. Learning this song also sort of forced me into adopting Frederik's "floating" pick-hand posture/technique...I used to play more like Marten where I had the middle, ring and pinky fingers extended outwards and making contact with either the strings or body of the guitar depending. It only took maybe a day or two to get used to keeping my hand in more of a fist, but admittedly it felt extremely awkward and out of control at first. It's much more precise and allows me to play faster without a doubt.

Efficient movements

@@isansimpson2056 you're right, you'll engage different muscles when you anchor your hand/fingers. It's much "floatier" when you don't but strange feeling to me

TeddyGNOP I guess they're extremely smart but they don't realize it and they think they're explaining stuff clearly.

or maybe they're just regular idiots like you or me that just happen to write good music

TeddyGNOP Even though in their music they often sound like they have some sort of PhD.

try to play it. it's more structured than you think lol.

Dude you killed me with that comment xD

It Destroy Erase Improve

@@whereisevan Fuck I came here to write that

I almost fainted 🤣😫💀

Destroyed, Erased & Improved

No thanks to them. Mediocre track with Nobel worth drumming.

Open mouth sir and let me piss, fact.

@@m4rcin847 *click* this one's going in my cringe compilation

​@@m4rcin847play it then

more is more!

🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're exactly right. Most fucked up rhythmic pattern imaginable

You’re re-writing history and skipping a decade of tech metal development. Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades. While Meshuggah is influential, Bleed came along after an already long history of songwriting. Destroy. Erase. Improve has had more influence on genre than anything else they’ve released. Bleed is popular NOW. But 12 years ago when I posted this video, no one really cared. Just progheads.

@@DrOctatonic *"Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades."* I never said otherwise. Bleed being innovative and other bands being innovative can both be true at the same time. And how many people cared isn't a factor either way; there are so many innovative bands that nobody cared about at the time when they were making music, but they were still the progenitors because they gained recognition over time.

@@MarkArandjus no, he’s right. Next time you leave a comment on a KZfaq video, I expect a multi-volume, in-depth account of the full musical history that led to this video, including quotations from prominent historical figures, both living and dead. Also make sure to cover the significance of every musical era dating back to the baroque era. Please and thank you.

@@jeffg329 x)

This is the most perfect definition of Bleed's patterns. Thank you.

AvocaSingleTrack dude great analogy!!!!

I remember walking the tracks with our guitars and amps about 2 miles to each others houses to jam. We were amazed when we first started figuring out Iron Maiden Powerslave , that was around 1985 . Then we struggled thru some of Ride the Lightening ......but Meshuggah is just off the hook . Even back in '85 I know we woulda liked Meshuggah. Great band !

hahaha best fuckin comment ever

AvocaSingleTrack she got a cam in her

Then you don't need an 8-9 string to play Meshuggah haha At least by trying the main riff you manage to learn rhythm and a different approch to the picking technique to manage more speed and also endurance.

You can djent just as well on a baritone 6 string guitar

Abdullah true, but 7 strings and 8 strings are so much cooler! And that extra range is really nice too.

@@Abdullah-cj2mh You can Djent on a Les Paul with a high enough string gauge.

I djent in 1 string.

I hate that word lol

i know rigfht haha... i can play decrepit birth stuff but still can't even touch this riff. it's too tiring on my tendons. who the fuck can do this haha. and on drums... oh shit

420protoman My thought of somebody trying to play this on drums: Poor bastard.

Danadrol Slin Bayer I sing this song fucking pleb

+420protoman dude I’m exactly the same, anything like decrepit birth, death I can get a good grasp of but bleed.... jesus

@@420protoman yeah the drums are ABSURD. The guitar is tricky enough, but with the drums he’s doing it with his feet while also keeping a consistent 4/4 pattern with the hands. Actually absurd.

Weird, to me the pattern after the solo is way easier because I don't have to time the left hand note press

to me the hardest parts are the intro riff variation where you play the gallop alternating from the F string back to the E string because the change in tension always kills me and I'm already fatigued at that point. and the riff where you gallop on the 3rd fret of the E string and then drop down for a single F note. but I keep on learning because getting the gallop right is so satisfying when it works out

Playing any part of bleed is an achievement. I’m primarily a bass player and played with fingers most of my life. Only started playing with a pick in more recent years and even when I’m strumming my absolute fastest it still sounds slow as hell compared to bleed.

people don't realise how long these guys have been doing this stuff though. Theyve been playing for longer then i've been alive

also Brandon Bruce - it's because they've aged well. some of the sickest bands a decade or two ago are completely irrelevant now, even bands still touring and releasing music. seems like musicians have a tendency to emulate the sound/style that culminated in their success or are just reluctant to make any dramatic changes to their sound because there's like a good like 30% of people who will throw a tantrum because they're not writing music that sounds exactly the same as all of their other music lol. Bring Me the Horizon comes to mind. folks went mental when Sykes started singing and their style got a little less heavy. same with Veil of Maya, there's a new vocalist or whatever on their newer album. the one with all the Game of Thrones references in the song titles lol. dude's cleans are crazy awesome, but there were still a handful of clowns still started crying about them trying new shit. Meshuggah is the kind of band that you can hear a distinct progression of sound/style throughout all of their albums and it's keeping people interested. Dir en Grey is the same way, almost every album they release is different from the last. still filling stadiums and shit. they're like Japan's version of Slipknot in terms of popularity.

Facts, nice opeth logo too

@@Anomalocaria watch some of their old performances and they head bang the entire show

Indeed man these guys are gods

GOOD ONE

Straight to the point this guy

People mostly look at the rhythm aspect, and while that is of course the USP the atmosphere Meshuggah create seem to be lost on a lot of listeners.

Most people never head of Meshuggah, just we metal heads.

GOOD ONE

Did you figure out how “it…move…” yet? LOL seriously though, took me a while to get this down. You got it!

No it isn't. Any beginner playing metal should be able to do that. It's a pretty basic gallop pattern.

@@officialmetalwill bruh

@@officialmetalwill L comment + ratio bozo

@@officialmetalwill it's not a basic gallop, its a gallop with 2 "8th" notes instead of 1 wich changes everything in terms of rythmic difficulty

​@@officialmetalwill tf you on bro

You obviously don't listen to much music or watch many people play. There is absolutely nothing special about the playing here.

@@officialmetalwill Who are you again? Nobody asked for your shitty opinion lmfao

@@officialmetalwill what?

@@officialmetalwill cool, post a video of you playing this as smooth and effortlessly as he does. I would say you obviously don’t know much about music if you don’t think there’s anything special here. The intricacy of the picking pattern is insane.

The greatest picking technique in metal belongs to Mr. James Hetfield

And also the boredom. I get bored of it after 1 minute. Very boring and repetitive.

@@pmaster1173 Add notes.

It also absolutely requires a metronome which is hard for some people to accept. But moving in and out of the time signature like this is nuts without it.

@@XMetalChefX It move?

I like to play Jambi better than I like to play Bleed because it has a similar pattern but the herta is made by the fretting hand. Instead of wrist cramps you just burn a hole in the pad of your index finger 😂😂😂

You realize that the "bleed" pattern itself is in 3/4 right?

so many polyrhythms ... yeah, most of the time there's at least one instrument in 4/4, sure.

@@milkymilsy 3/8 to be exact. The drums are in 4 and the song is written in 8, 16, 32, and 64 measures of 4/4.

@@drumkidstu doesn't matter It is still 3/4 By the way it makes no difference for a guitar player since you have your own pattern and you actually do not need to count times

@@awrely The band who are experts at their music would say it's in 4/4 so I'll stick with the experts. Plus if you watch them live they all headbang to the 4/4 groove just saying.

ree eses lmao

lol what was that? i don't know messugah well, did't he try to taalk inglese?

This is awesome!

Meshuggah changed my life. Go watch Straws Pulled at Random, first the album version, then the live version video on here. I'm sure lots of Meshuggah fans would say it's cliche, but it's one of the most perfectly executed.. it's just an absolute piece of art, put into sound.

Im going right now, since the 1st time i heard them got instantly envolved with Meshuggah and Djent. Strong estatement and thank you for the suggestion :)

+Robyn W there melodie is so beautyfull like you rockbabychick

Hell yeah hah

It move

gregorio232 hahaha

sick botanist profile pic

right?

lol, I just saw that this comment was made 12 years ago 😂

@@kikiphallin ahaha

It's just 4 4 time signature, pretty basic rhythm once you get it down though, just triplets and semiquavers (16ths) strung together in the same pattern for each part, doesn't stray too far from the basic intro riff once you get that down

@@gedgemondod8808 starts in 4/4 ... and as the song goes on it gets massively syncopated, displaced and shifted through time...

yessss I always thought jerry Cantrell had a very late 80's dissonant shred kind of style and always played in the lower frets for riffs and solos and always thought he was one of the most underrated guitarists of all time and really got the ball moving for g and L guitars and khaler locking bridge systems.

@Jérome Bastin And the Mesh listened to Tool as well

It's pretty simple.

+ane urme try to focus on ur fingers,if u get to use ur fingers right when u're moving ur whole hand u will achive it,its a technical move but sadly i forgot the name since its been 10 years that i have not play instruments.

I just kind of masturbated too much, so it's easy to my right hand and not my left.

The picking part is actually pretty simple when you slow it down. The pattern used for the right hand is a gallop followed by an upstroke, so it would be this for the first verse: DUD, U, DUD, U, DUD, U, and so on until the next verse. Verse 2: DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, and so on. Hope this helps! 😊🤘

when people start getting exhausted, they have a tendency to tense up and clutch their picks harder to make smaller and more controlled movements and try to conserve as much effort as possible, but it's counterproductive. the muscles in your forearms that start hurting after a while are the same muscles responsible for articulating your fingers, so when you start squeezing the pick, you immediately start wasting effort. it's more or less the same story with forcing our arm to make smaller movements, you unnecessarily waste effort trying to keep your hand/fingers from moving too much. try to relax. it's easier said than done and it's a hard habit to break, but you'll notice a difference in endurance pretty quickly. it'll still hurt like a bitch for a while, but the more you power through it, the easier it gets the next time you play it. i've been using the song as an exercise for a couple of years now and it still makes a motherfucker sore.

This is excellent advise that's right on the money, economy of motion is what it's all about.

It's a basic gallop pattern. I don't understand why people think this is so amazing.

@@officialmetalwill It's amazing because achieving consistency at such speed is a lot of work.

@@officialmetalwill This is not a basic gallop pattern. A basic gallop pattern consists of three notes (16/16/8). There are four notes in this riff (16/16/8/8) and the one "added" at the end of every gallop is played with an upstroke. So yes, playing that for seven minutes (and there are further variations of it as the song progresses) with precision, in time, at that tempo and together with other guitars and drums (which have their own unique pattern with cymbals, that do not "match" the guitar riff for majority of the time) is really, really amazing.

I'm assuming you've heard two, maybe three other riffs?

The best at putting people to sleep with their childish riffs.

well you cannae bend an open string, yet

It's also easier to pick for longer periods of time on a thinner string. If you try and learn this song the difference in stamina needed for playing on the open E versus always on the fretted B is very noticeable.

its also in like quadruplets to top it all off

all in the wrist my dude.

Alternate Picking, just alternate picking with 16th notes at 230bpm. If you are able to play this ou just need the rhythm than you can play bleed

kaeseistcool You say that as if it's easy lmfao. 16th notes at 230 bpm is 15.3 notes per second

Fluffed Pillows How long you havve been playing guitar? look up the john petrucci spider exercise, you will get faster on the right and left hand. And excersice on a slow level 16th notes with metronome and get slowly faster. I don't say it is easy but it is not imposible, I can play it at 190bpm and started at 80 bpm(had trouble with the rhythm at the beginning) . There are other songs like nights blood from dissection with 215pbm with I find for my self harder play

Hello you from 14 years ago. I am here to announce my disagreement with this ancient monologe.

It's boring as fuck. It sounds like any beginner guitar player who just discovered metal.

AATE Mo- OOFF

indeed

This is one of the hardest riffs I've played. Because it's really confusing and the required endurance and stamina of this song is out of this world

The drumming is the hardest part

Nah very easy. Hardest because it gets too boring because it's repetitive

@@pmaster1173 you played it at least to day that?

***** tis true... :(

***** no, its a fact.

Wrong, wrong and then have some more wrong. Just LOOK and LISTEN to it to see how wrong you are.

TUUK2006 Play a metronome with the exact same settings, and you have this song dumb fuck.

TUUK2006 you should learn how to use a metronome. The song is 4/4.

Harris it's to get heavier shizzetzzz man and extended lower range

Harris u know how hard it is to keep up that polyrythmic beat.

Levi Ackerman it's also hard to play guitar using my dick. That doesn't mean I'm a good musician.

Harris i know, they should be using 12 8 isnt dj0nt enough

+Levi Ackerman Fuckin hell, guitarists don't fucking play polyrhythms. Stop regurgitating shit you see in the KZfaq comments.

dont insult them like tht

yea lmfao. - Does periphery Meshuggah? FUCK NO.