Meshuggah Metal Riff Lesson Part 2

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15 жыл бұрын

On May 1, 2008, when Swedens technical metal giants Meshuggah came to New York on Ministrys C-U-La-Tour, guitarists Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom (above left and right, respectively) stopped by MetalKults Manhattan headquarters for a video interview and riff lesson.
Meshuggah were also touring in support of their latest album, Obzen, which was released on March 11 on Nuclear Blast.
In this rare footage, the guitarists talk about their eight-string guitars, extraterrestrial solos, challenging polyrhythms, and time-signature misconceptions, before demonstrating how to play some classic riffs from their catalog, including Rational Gaze, Bleed, Electric Red, Pravus, New Millenium Cyanide Christ, The Mouth Licking What Youve Bled and Future Breed Machine.
Check out all this death-tech goodness below!

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@Freezaen 12 жыл бұрын

"It... Move." + Hand gesture -Fredrik, speaking his wisdom

@Meurth 7 жыл бұрын

2:44 "It... move..." -Fredrik Thordendal 2008

@dngrouscrgo 6 жыл бұрын

I think his mic fell off his shirt so a lot of what he said got lost

@7AKV7 5 жыл бұрын

"It's moving all the time" he said. They just thought one mic on Morten will be enough. It's not enough.

@sjn_ 5 жыл бұрын

I like how Marten saved him tho 😂

@ddrumdude 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@forwonder419 3 жыл бұрын

why waste time say lot word when few word do trick

@Knutorius 3 жыл бұрын

0:11 Rational Gaze - Opening 0:34 Rational Gaze - Verse 1:10 Rational Gaze - Breakdown 1:51 Bleed - Opening/Verse/Pre-Chorus 2:43 regular guitar playing 3:18 Bleed - 3rd Verse / Riff Variation 4:37 Electric Red - Breakdown / Polyrhythmic Riff (where this happens) 6:20 Electric Red - Opening / Main Riff

@horseradish4046 4 жыл бұрын

when they lock in ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY at 8:04 with no metronome is fuckin sick, this is the power of Meshuggah, these two guys and their inhuman telekinetic guitar duo

@YanusDV 2 жыл бұрын

What Fred does at 7:59 is fucking crazy. He starts to count the 4/4 to lock into the song

@hockeyfreak66666 7 ай бұрын

Drummers disguised as guitar players are funny like that

@LunarLionheart 13 жыл бұрын

Love how Fredrik clicked in like a metronome and started playing with him.....hes a machine.

@Blargaha 13 жыл бұрын

makes you proud to be swedish, they are absolutely beastly live! One of the best live bands I've seen

@doktormoney 2 жыл бұрын

the fact that "this is just how we see music" makes more sense than every other video there is about playing meshuggah....

@MrXunholyx 7 жыл бұрын

That Electric Red riff is evil.

@KingJamesNBK187 7 жыл бұрын

MrXunholyx right!

@CharlesUrich 15 жыл бұрын

Meshuggah's elastic rhythms are absolutely fresh and cutting edge. Get in on the groove or get out. Nothing but love for the shug

@hectorvegasduque2234 2 жыл бұрын

Damn 13 years ago, I wonder if the guy still loves the shug

@HINRG14 Жыл бұрын

I would hope one simply does not stop loving the shug

@uriahuriah3792 9 күн бұрын

@@HINRG14haha

@djangofett4879 9 жыл бұрын

Its funny how you see several people commenting about how they don't like meshuggah on every frickin' video. If you hate them so much, then you must really be a glutton for punishment.

@jobodemon 8 жыл бұрын

8:04 sounds massive

@bparrish99 7 жыл бұрын

I watched the Bleed section, and immediately am great at playing Bleed! Amazing!

@harryhengel 14 жыл бұрын

I love the Meshuggah. It's funny to see how quiet (shy) Frederik is. I think the ending riff in Electric red is one of my favourite Meshuggah riffs. The other 20.000 not mentioned.

@SeeMick1 11 жыл бұрын

I love how Fredrik keeps noodling while Marten is talking

@tabza 13 жыл бұрын

I love how Fredrik just jumps in on the action at 7:58

@NikkElektrik 13 жыл бұрын

I aspire to be able to play rhythm guitar like Fredrik. His accuracy, and memory (I mean the guy remembers 8min songs that mostly have no actual melody to keep in mind, and the riffs are just variations of the same crazy incomprehensible discordant-looking pattern!) and a right hand stamina that is mind-blowing.

@ComeAtMeBeer 11 жыл бұрын

I've always been attracted to "odd" sounding music. I grew up with Korn (not their later shit, I'm talking first album) and Tool. It was easy for me to get into Meshuggah because they have exactly what I look for in metal; rhythmically focused music that has an unusual feel and approach.

@romanthegambler6966 Жыл бұрын

how's your journey been these ten long years?

@Goose21 4 ай бұрын

@@romanthegambler6966prolonged exposure to such chuggy riffage has left him unable to respond

@DROWXXI 9 жыл бұрын

Take a shot anytime meshuggah palm mutes

@enzio24 9 жыл бұрын

pretty much hahahaha

@BradyThomas 8 жыл бұрын

oh god what about bleed

@hogosbazvarakh9220 6 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHahAHAhaHAhahaHAHASHAHhaHAhaahahaHAHAHAhaHaaaHahaha YOur so dune!

@metallicaspiker16 6 жыл бұрын

First 5 seconds of Bleed is Insta-death.

@Iheartdgd 3 жыл бұрын

My lawyer would like a word with you

@niovus4053 4 жыл бұрын

As a fellow musician and metal composer, I can tell you guys that it is not an easy task to write polyrhythms with such intensity! Meshuggah is hands down one of the best metal bands to grace the earth. Their riffs have inspired so many creative artists, including me. These dudes are great!

@xxczerxx 11 жыл бұрын

How the f*** do they remember all those rhythms for live shows? :O

@drumkidstu 4 жыл бұрын

Feeling. They learn the songs by feel. Counting just makes it confusing.

@AndrewKlinger 4 жыл бұрын

@@drumkidstu 6 years later we've finally figured it out!!

@crow-vz5lx 4 жыл бұрын

it i really the feel and sound for them .

@darkySp 3 жыл бұрын

I can remember them by feel, which i would guess is how they probably do it, but honestly ? No idea how they remember the latter part of Bleed, i think it's the 3rd Verse. Can't get past the 4th bar.

@leviathan3630 3 жыл бұрын

@@darkySp that's when the counting starts

@underscoreisnotvalid 15 жыл бұрын

man i love these guys, they have such a good feel in terms of groove and a sick guitar tone

@dryad_92 3 жыл бұрын

I love how eloquent they are about the bands purpose and sound.

@ifluxion 14 жыл бұрын

4:30 lol Hagstrom - Ah, and um...it's ah where uh....uh...we come in... Thordendal - This happens Hagstrom - Yea, exactly. This happens.

@EFFJAY88 5 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how effortlessly he plays all this stuff. The timing is insane.

@FRANK45CASTLE Жыл бұрын

I never even seen this in recommended for 14 fuckin years. This is awesome and makes me feel old lol

@Oreomeister 15 жыл бұрын

Tool and meshuggah are good friends. Their influence on each other is apparent to people who listen to both. The fact that two quite different types of music can be influential on each other is awesome. That riff was influenced by jambi, and jambi was influenced by meshuggah. Cool stuff.

@holygroove2 13 жыл бұрын

I wish they'd have gone further into the next section of the Bleed riffs cause that's what makes the song awesome - when they vary the rhythm and make it start and stop in funky places. LOVE it!

@MrPist0ler0 14 жыл бұрын

The tone on the Electric Red riff is \m/ for life!

@ifutureman 14 жыл бұрын

"This is a rhythmic exercise." AND I LOVE IT! Who says a hook can't be strictly a rhythm?

@PansyFeet 14 жыл бұрын

man, I love the sound they get, and thats without any stomp boxes or anything? Freaking awesome

@holygroove2 12 жыл бұрын

Man that Electric Red riff is still crazy fun. Love how tricky it sounds and IS.

@MatheusMPL 7 жыл бұрын

8:03 damn, that's heavy

@-cfh-architector7963 5 жыл бұрын

RiffMasters!

@faaip0de0oaid 14 жыл бұрын

man that guitar sound is amazing!!

@1x9x8x9 14 жыл бұрын

Great vids bro, cheers!

@MaLaKaThIsS 15 жыл бұрын

woaah yess sooo beast like their tone and playing!!!

@Marinkorpse 12 жыл бұрын

I agree with you sire, love both bands as well

@holygroove2 13 жыл бұрын

Dude. Electric Red is my favorite song on Obzen. I'll have everyone know that I bought that album b/c of this video.

@Armorteur 11 жыл бұрын

Amazing, when they both play.

@DontPieceMe221 13 жыл бұрын

The tightest guitar duo (and band) ever.

@rjc7289 6 жыл бұрын

I love their use of odd time signatures. They put an interesting spin on heavy metal rhythm guitar. When you consider most metal guitarists distinguish themselves with their lead guitar playing, the fact that they are unique for their rhythm parts is quite remarkable. Normally, these super-low, dinosaur-fart riffs aren't my thing, but I have to give them credit for forging their own path and not sounding like anyone else.

@reamp0000 5 жыл бұрын

really nice guys

@killzoomer 15 жыл бұрын

Meshuggah is AWESOME!!!

@SoaringTrumpet 12 жыл бұрын

That lick in Electric Red is one of my Meshuggah favs. Basic 4/4 time, catchy as hell repetitive ("and so forth"!) syncopated riffs on top. I'm tapping my toe but at the same time trying to follow the complexity of rhythm.

@kaakatin 6 жыл бұрын

Cool to see Marten's head bopping in 4/4 when he plays

@000sicair 11 жыл бұрын

The thing I can never get over is how small they make those giant fucking guitars look.

@CadaverSpawn 15 жыл бұрын

That's some serious timing!

@CamiloHorrorShow 9 жыл бұрын

Wow I do like listening to Meshuggah but my laptop speakers don't allow such low frequencies

@CharlesUrich 15 жыл бұрын

On the contrary my friend, I love Meshuggah more than anything. nothin but love

@nagelkyrch 15 жыл бұрын

true legends in action..

@DrXaOs 8 жыл бұрын

lol fredrik is stoned lol 0:35

@Si-Al-Ti 8 жыл бұрын

+DrXaOs haha classic!

@DrXaOs 8 жыл бұрын

kungmat :D

@hmb3 15 жыл бұрын

Awesome guitars!

@jAndEl01504MeTaL 13 жыл бұрын

wow.. REALLY COOL.. tnx for this lesson.. I LUV the CHUG-CHUG sound of that 8-string-guitar.. haha

@oshige3 15 жыл бұрын

thanks man

@AlexDysphoria 15 жыл бұрын

Dear Sir, I can assure you Fredrick uses all of his strings while doing his incredible lead work. I also would like to recommend you Fredrick Thordendal Special Defects side-project. Solos it contains have completely blown me away - that proves at least Fredrick understands and uses potential of every string in his 7 and 8-string guitars. It is just a matter of Meshuggah's music - using of the lowest strings most frequently.

@JonasBGuitar 11 жыл бұрын

best misheared lyrics ever!

@oshige3 15 жыл бұрын

thanks man.

@juggernautone577 3 жыл бұрын

0:00 Rational Gaze 1:45 Bleed 4:12 Electric Red

@PeRogiTra 8 жыл бұрын

that song is so fucking awesome

@naiyalexic 8 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!!!

@bradnc1988 14 жыл бұрын

Insanely deep...

@Marinkorpse 12 жыл бұрын

Most metal heads are great people, friendly, loyal and sort of family guy. But of course they will be more friendly to you if you are part of the tribe. The concert's crowd I enjoy the most are the metal ones, they are into the music. No talking, people staring at the band or killing each other. Plain awesomeness

@donSparda 11 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to downtuning to the Meshuggah tuning and playingxD

@saintlotus93 12 жыл бұрын

I had a lot of trouble with it too, but I realized most of my trouble was because I would stiffen up when played it. I had to practice really slow, that way my wrist and arm would be more relaxed and loose, when I played it full speed. It also smoothed out when I changed my pick to a dunlop jazz 3, they glide over the strings a lot easier, for me.

@bok3rnes425 3 жыл бұрын

6:56 de-dooo-du-ku-tu-ku-tu-ku-tuk (polyrhythmic language). But yeah their music is cool and complicated (that's what's makes it fun) 👍👍👍👍👍

@hssn124815030 14 жыл бұрын

look how he moves his fist in the opening riff of bleed THAT'S GREATTTTT !!!!!!1

@MetalAriel 15 жыл бұрын

now that I think about it I must admit you're right

@Vulnus777 15 жыл бұрын

I like how I don't play guitar but its just amazing to watch.

@xsheft 15 жыл бұрын

crazy

@Henry14arsenal2007 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone knows their signal chain/tone for this video? Seriously that tone sounds so brutal.

@TheDescent 15 жыл бұрын

3.18 to 4.12 it's absolutely brain melting to me.

@siestastenso7598 11 жыл бұрын

AND HERE.

@ChainsawVsGod 13 жыл бұрын

Goddamn. They have a fucking VICIOUS! guitar tone.

@AntiHero1996 13 жыл бұрын

@Blargaha Have you seen em? They're on my list of need to see bands.

@boxmouth1 12 жыл бұрын

8:04 Gotta love the internal metronome.

@AlexDysphoria 15 жыл бұрын

To speak honestly, if to blame Meshuggah for peacockery that 2 strings are enough for playing Meshuggah rather than 8, then it would be fair to blame thousands of other popular bands who really don't play more than 2-3 strings on their 6-strings. Technique is something very subjective, personally I find polyrhythmic leads by Fredrick very technical, and I cannot say any guy from Meshuggah is a technical mediocrity.

@toolkills 15 жыл бұрын

amen!!!!

@Batoo21 13 жыл бұрын

i still cannot understand how its possible to play this with methronome:) awesome.

@GUTTURALFREAK 11 жыл бұрын

i agree the first stuff of korn was fantastic!! and meshuggah is one of my top bands because of that odd sound!

@TheChrispablo 12 жыл бұрын

fredriks iceman 8 strink blew everything away...

@argavilda 15 жыл бұрын

"... he goes wild and does whatever drums do when they go flashy..."

@AlexDysphoria 15 жыл бұрын

Well, still let's respect Korn fans. There are a lot of people who love their music and are influenced by them. But still Meshuggah's lowness is so fucking sick! *praying to Re-Nothing guitar tone*

@domigit 14 жыл бұрын

@MendingSilence It's regular Eb tuning (Eb, Ab, Db, Gb, Bb, Eb) and the two low strings are an F and a Bb

@dngrouscrgo 12 жыл бұрын

for some of the craziest metalheads known to man, these guys seem like that nicest people in the word XD

@KillProficiency 7 жыл бұрын

Such fucking groove

@hoofed 15 жыл бұрын

Rational Gaze is from the album Nothing. There are two versions of the album and both should be on the iTunes Store.

@genud0414 14 жыл бұрын

i want one of those guitars so bad

@minkowski198503 13 жыл бұрын

Martin is wearing Celtic Frost shirt. I fuckin' love it !

@METALHEAD80s 15 жыл бұрын

dude totally!! These guys should be playing at the end of the fucking world. Sometimes when I listen to the actual song obzen I like the world is going to end when it stops and that crazy heavy riff comes in. SOOOO FUCKING HEAVY

@jonithedrummer 14 жыл бұрын

you gotta love fredriks beard :D

@icarus1851 9 жыл бұрын

nice lesson! fucking love meshuggah!

@santoslhalper6116 3 жыл бұрын

Marten's a comic genius.

@SquareWand 13 жыл бұрын

@Virus940 I think they all sound different and unique enough that remembering it is like thinking about that one pair of socks with a hole in it. Its somewhere in the pile for sure.. and as soon as you see a glimpse of it you're able to recite every last thread in the sock.

@NecroButcher91 15 жыл бұрын

The bass in the newer ('Nothing' to now) albums is actually tuned to the same pitch as the eight strings, because if it was an octave lower the speakers wouldn't be able to reproduce the frequencies properly. So that's mostly why they have that popping or boinging bass quality, because the bass and the guitars kinda blend together because they're the same pitch and they use alot of distortion on the bass.

@akerbeltz6661 15 жыл бұрын

i dont see how anybody in a million years could memorize that!

@PhillipMcKeever 13 жыл бұрын

@CorvetteCoonass i can understand those low of notes as long as theres not too much distortion.. i picked up bass about a year ago and its getting better

@killzoomer 15 жыл бұрын

wow, i cant believe he just said that!!!