Meshuggah Metal Riff Lesson Part 3

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15 жыл бұрын

On May 1, 2008, when Swedens technical metal giants Meshuggah came to New York on Ministrys C-U-La-Tour, guitarists Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom (above left and right, respectively) stopped by MetalKults Manhattan headquarters for a video interview and riff lesson.
Meshuggah were also touring in support of their latest album, Obzen, which was released on March 11 on Nuclear Blast.
In this rare footage, the guitarists talk about their eight-string guitars, extraterrestrial solos, challenging polyrhythms, and time-signature misconceptions, before demonstrating how to play some classic riffs from their catalog, including Rational Gaze, Bleed, Electric Red, Pravus, New Millenium Cyanide Christ, The Mouth Licking What Youve Bled and Future Breed Machine.
Check out all this death-tech goodness below!

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@shoooey 15 жыл бұрын

7:37, "in reality that should be like...". Haha, I like that those guys refuse to stay in reality.

@Alexander_Tronstad 4 жыл бұрын

lol

@jameschauvet3140 4 жыл бұрын

shoooey lmao!

@chriscoooley 15 жыл бұрын

man their guitar tones really compliment each other for the perfect 8 string sound

@Xaer_ 7 ай бұрын

3:30 oh yes!

@Justinzorn907 12 жыл бұрын

The whole time Fredriks like "I WANNA FUCKING PLAY!"

@theronianquad637 2 жыл бұрын

I KNOW RIGHT?!😄

@alistairdimmick2886 4 жыл бұрын

I like how the views scale down from 500k to 332k to 146k for part 3, because people realise over the course of the videos they still have no idea how to do it like meshuggah.

@Surisis 15 жыл бұрын

I swear that when i heard pravus i could hear the in between rhythms. If you don't know Meshuggah's style then it's hard to hear but I would vouch for all Meshuggah fans on this one. We hear you.

@OHBJJ9634 3 жыл бұрын

I heard it. I learnt that by ear 😂😂

@kevinsuarezmacena1003 6 жыл бұрын

Now I want a slower and groovier version of New Millenium Cyanide Christ, thanks Mårten.

@DanXile 8 жыл бұрын

Concatenation is the perfect example of when things are too fast and the details are lost. The slower version on Rare Trax is crushing.

@holygroove2 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the fast version is mind blowing. I personally am glad that both versions exist because no one would believe that the version on Chaosphere is all in 4. The whole freaking song is in 4, and the slow version proves this. That's why I can't do without either version.

@Meshuggapeth 5 жыл бұрын

DanXile I prefer the Rare Trax Concatentation with the Nothing vibe too

@VVarat 5 жыл бұрын

The problem is not that the song is too fast, the problem is that your ears sucks.

@bmw_m4255 2 жыл бұрын

its not too fast. IT's perfection.

@eskeknas5540 6 жыл бұрын

Penn & Teller does metal.

@jameschauvet3140 5 жыл бұрын

Eske Knas lmao

@StewTheTrue 14 жыл бұрын

I'm Swedish! Lets keep making our revolutionary viking metal!

@FRANK45CASTLE Жыл бұрын

Man do these guys just crush, simplicity of riffs, heaviest most technical drums, best band ever. I could listen to these guys riff all fuckin day

@memalley 5 жыл бұрын

I hear it, dont worry

@mortenhansen3455 10 ай бұрын

To you who posted these videos. THANKS! It just goes to show how hard it is to play the drums! THANKS a million!

@faselblaDer3te 13 жыл бұрын

I love these videos!!! So great!

@MatheusMPL 7 жыл бұрын

These guys are awesome, taking regular patterns and messing with them, making them more complex and unique.. that's why I love their music!

@davianmoua3888 7 жыл бұрын

dam you guys really change the metal world for sure dammm thank you

@psilicybin666 11 жыл бұрын

Awesome to see them play this stuff.

@jimzeez 8 жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for him when he says his rhetoric about why they write things if no one hears it XD he almost sounds so crushed. little character quirks in songs like that are my favorite part of them, and it even bothers me when my friends don't hear them cause they don't listen attentively.

@holygroove2 7 жыл бұрын

Be patient with your friends, and be glad for your ears. The fact that the two guitarists had and interview about this issue means that MANY people don't hear what you can hear, you are rare. There are still riffs that throw me off with this band, and I LOVE being thrown off while simultaneously knowing that it's all in 4. I wouldn't say that he's "crushed". I think he takes pride in what the band produces.

@jimzeez 7 жыл бұрын

I've no doubt they're very proud. It just came off as funny as first haha. As far as (some of) my friends go, they aren't all as interested in music as I am so they don't listen as attentively. To be expected.

@holygroove2 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, to be expected. You bring up something that I didn't think about - you're sort of saying that the character of the musicians actually shows up in their sound. That's an interesting thought with Meshuggah for sure.

@holygroove2 14 жыл бұрын

Love how they show what they do without a technical explaination. They come at it from an artistic veiwpoint, talking about the sounds, and grooves rather than the math involved. It's really important to have them on here correcting mistakes that people have made while transcribing their music! If I played guitar I'd want to know what they actually laid down.

@holygroove2 10 жыл бұрын

Always something to learn - the chromaticism in New Millennium Cyanide Christ is something I didn't hear in on Chaosphere at all. I thought the first parts of that riff were all one note! Wow!

@holygroove2 12 жыл бұрын

Now that I am familiar with most of their music, these lessons are really great. I actually hear the Pravus details that he's talking about from the CD...I'll have to check out the Alive DVD to see if what he's saying is true. Sometimes it may not be heard, but it's still felt. These little details make them who they are.

@bom2 15 жыл бұрын

Pravus is such an amazing song.

@SergioChongLoo 11 жыл бұрын

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4"), a huge difference compared to conventional guitars (24 3/4" or 25.5")

@specialblend2786 15 жыл бұрын

Yes sir, I'm with you on that one.

@trivrock2k6 12 жыл бұрын

Reading that helped me learn to play it, I totally understand the structure now haha, cheers.

@New_Millennium_Cyanide_Christ 15 жыл бұрын

I like meshuggah so much becouse this band is so unique in it's way to create music.

@Convisis 11 жыл бұрын

Fred is a fricken alien, his playing is so on point it's ridiculous.

@IndigoRoses7 14 жыл бұрын

their guitars are so beautiful...Icemans are pieces of art

@Phybia 8 жыл бұрын

5:13 THALLS

@PredicateWinning 8 жыл бұрын

7:36 at 0.5 speed is the best thing ever

@MixYourWay 5 жыл бұрын

lol that YEAAAHHH......yyeaaHHH....(8) lol

@12disneyhater 12 жыл бұрын

damn i wanna learn to play guitar now so bad

@Purkinje90 14 жыл бұрын

Opeth's from sweden too! Meshuggah rules.

@holygroove2 10 жыл бұрын

If they came out with a version of New Millennium.... that was as slow as they play it on this video (at one point) it would be super funky.

@chessmastir 12 жыл бұрын

"And then it goes to the end part... tada... puf."

@iAmPesukone 12 жыл бұрын

No probs mate, glad I could help.

@fredmachine 11 жыл бұрын

Yes. The last item in the list (followed by a smiley) is what gave the comment a light-hearted touch. I'm sure you know how people say that tone comes from your fingers. So the last part was simply acknowledging that Meshuggah are quite talented and rather unique, so that even with the exact same equipment it would be hard to sound like them. And of course it was exaggerated to say that their skill is inhuman as they are quite obviously human.

@HorrorMaci 13 жыл бұрын

1:39 I hear it in the song! And those notes makes that tune sick :)

@AnimeishDwarf 13 жыл бұрын

They are so awesome. 2:23 is the beset comment ever. Shows they are totally down to Earth.

@Jath2112 4 жыл бұрын

I can't help but think that I'd love to know dudes like this. Just go hang out and suddenly it would be 6am and there'd be some insane riff affecting my behavior for the next week... go back to hang out and there would be new thing added ...repeat... probably fun as hell to talk about ordinary shit too.

@micahgillis666777 2 жыл бұрын

I love how they broke down the rift and New millennium cyanide Christ

@pegatrisedmice 11 жыл бұрын

i've heard these details in pravus but not in concetenation until i heard a remix :D since then, i love the original..

@TheOrangeFondler 13 жыл бұрын

When he said Tom Bananza, my first thought was "hmm, who is that guy?" LOL

@supah1337B 14 жыл бұрын

"And then you wonder why the fuck someone would do something that stupid when nobody hears it anyway." haha Best band ever

@TheChrispablo 12 жыл бұрын

some people still dont get it: their fav. bands band IS Meshuggah

@harrymanbach 14 жыл бұрын

@blackseeds666 edge III ,it's very stable,it locks like a floyd rose but it's got a large bolt that adjusts the angle of the bridge plate and keeps it from moving

@TyShredder 14 жыл бұрын

Really? Nothing and ObZen are two of the most creative, ground-breaking albums in metal.

@bradleyrock4602 15 жыл бұрын

they have the single most monsterous tone ever!! Fuck its so heavy!!

@harrymanbach 14 жыл бұрын

@Floorsnarl "i'd stand on that !"

@mistamontiel 15 жыл бұрын

I liked the intro of Pravus..the shit I blast all the time has to be Pineal Gland Optics, definitely my favorite from obZen, I'm so pissed I didn't see them play it here and I don't see them live here either !! wahhh

@pepogunz 6 жыл бұрын

4:39 " TA TA, PUF "

@fredmachine 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they use those now. Although for recording Koloss they just used them as an interface and used VST Amp Rack for the guitar sound.

@ecaepevolhturt 14 жыл бұрын

@Garell2 Makes sense. They should let him explain how he plays in Swedish and then give him subtitles (in the video). Thorendal's playing blows me away, truely inspiring.

@SeanStephensen 14 жыл бұрын

2:23 HAHAHA

@Pantera4Ever1 13 жыл бұрын

"Sparse is good Have You heard ACDC??" HAHA

@ikariss77 13 жыл бұрын

@supah1337B yup. sometimes it's just about the details that make it challenging and fun to play, even if nobody knows it's there

@zhamoua 5 жыл бұрын

THE TWO MONSTERS OF RIFFS FROM HELL

@oceanmachine1906 3 жыл бұрын

The Torah of modern metal

@Fleischmahn 13 жыл бұрын

@mangosnake Fredrik is a machine after all..

@underscoreisnotvalid 15 жыл бұрын

2:28 hahaha fredriks laugh!!!

@Si-Al-Ti 13 жыл бұрын

NMCC is heavy in that slow tempo!

@drumskinninja 12 жыл бұрын

eight string iceman...fucking SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@SergioChongLoo 11 жыл бұрын

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4")

@zieglurski 14 жыл бұрын

@MrBoffom yeah it would

@selfrighteous88 15 жыл бұрын

=)) 2:25 amazin.. they really love their music

@iAmPesukone 11 жыл бұрын

Pravus main riff.

@koumik 15 жыл бұрын

Fredrik : The Silent Killer..

@BlGTlMBER 14 жыл бұрын

3:32 FUCK YAH!!!

@xXxThelegend27xXx 6 жыл бұрын

Every time marten stops, Fredrik keeps going, lol

@theronianquad637 2 жыл бұрын

Fredrik really wants to play! 😄

@Zeta9966 15 жыл бұрын

Pravus = best song on the album

@DivBMesa 14 жыл бұрын

i like the par that starts at 2:11

@yesfan157 11 жыл бұрын

The only reason I replied in the first place was because there was an apparent chance that you actually thought that their skill was unachievable; as such, I wanted to be certain that you knew that that was not the case at all. I wanted to implore you to believing the fact that you can reasonably achieve that which they have done. Go forth, bearer of light.

@thesm1l3y 14 жыл бұрын

2:22 LOOOOOOOOOOOL XD

@edmega332 15 жыл бұрын

2:27 Fredriks only public statement. EVER. \m/,

@trippyturtle777 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaahaha

@deadsoundradio 15 жыл бұрын

2:20 LMFAO!!!!!!

@harrymanbach 14 жыл бұрын

@Floorsnarl i'd stand on that!

@yesfan157 11 жыл бұрын

We could combine specifics into a variable called: Optimally-designed 8 string guitars.

@tehhhhhd 12 жыл бұрын

It's not stupid! It's the details that differ good technical songs from GREAT songs, in my opinion.

@earsBLEEDmetal1 14 жыл бұрын

Haha Marten's funny :D

@npnaia 11 жыл бұрын

Ah, right... and it cuts in the 3-1 before the guitar only part x)

@AJGNW 15 жыл бұрын

En, Två, Tre, Fyr ;D

@Xaer_ 7 ай бұрын

1:16 ”thame Thing” Yeah I understand.

@barfymann362 13 жыл бұрын

1:00 sounds alot like Rocket Skates by Deftones. Understandable though..Steph draws a huge influence from these Guys. Go MESHUGAHHHH!! \m/>

@TakiCyke 10 жыл бұрын

Thordendal is the one on the right, Hagstrom on the left. The "about" tab is wrong.

@Sepreturex 10 жыл бұрын

your left or my left, and ı dont know anything about this right you talk about.

@mvunit3 9 жыл бұрын

gececiyim89 - RIiiiigggght . . . left?

@JimDarkmagicThe4th 7 жыл бұрын

Well they did say most meshuggah tabs are close, but wrong

@DivBMesa 13 жыл бұрын

god, i need to know how they make these sick sound. do they use a pedal or? would be kind to answer me.

@doktormoney 2 жыл бұрын

the face you make at 3:34...

@Blargaha 14 жыл бұрын

@uberhalla i'm not him, but the advantage is that you can tune the guitar much lower. With a baritone you can easily get down to G tuning for example.

@holygroove2 13 жыл бұрын

@thegr8HarV - I think they purposely use simple 3 or 4 note fragments. The notes trick the ear into thinking that they're using some weird meter, when they really aren't. There are a many songs where the notes they use are important - check out Closed Eye Visuals and Rational Gaze. I think they are all around the best. Go back and listen to Contradictions Collapse, and Destroy Erase Improve. They've covered a TON of ground already.

@yesfan157 11 жыл бұрын

"Ha-ha...he..heee.."

@tehhhhhd 13 жыл бұрын

@Bastianbatero En, två, tre, fyr ;)

@ZioPanik 14 жыл бұрын

Look at Fredrick,he can't spent too much of his life not playingXD He's in his world...

@metaldemonseanknels 14 жыл бұрын

@TyShredder fuck that! more like in music in general! hail meshuggah! i'm getting an 8 string soon! hell yeah! i still agree with what you said though lol horns up!

@TheMihaeli 12 жыл бұрын

Treblemageddon !!!

@MonroeVallejo 11 жыл бұрын

And Axe FX.

@Guitarmazdur 13 жыл бұрын

@iShawn95 like its Ibanez's choice? they cant make a custom model for an artist without the artist's permission :P maybe these guys would prefer to have guitars that are totally unique. from their perspective, wouldnt that be kinda cool?