Mess With the Bull, and You get the Horns - Karpov vs Torre (Thrilla in Manilla, 1976.)

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Follow MprooV on Twitter / mproovapp #agadmator Eugenio Torre (born November 4, 1951) is a chess grandmaster (GM). He is considered the strongest chess player the Philippines produced during the 1980s and 1990s, and has been Board 1 player for the Philippines in eighteen World Chess Olympiads. In 1974, then 22 years old, he became Asia's first Grandmaster by winning the silver medal in the Chess Olympiad held in Nice, France. In a tournament in Manila in the 1976, Torre beat then-reigning World Champion Anatoly Karpov in a game that has become part of Filipino chess history. In 1982 he gained a spot in the World Chess Championship candidates matches, where he lost to Zoltan Ribli. He served as Bobby Fischer's second in the 1992 match against Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia. Torre is still an active player and put in a strong performance at the 42nd Chess Olympiad in Baku in 2016.
Torre shot to prominence in 1976 as a possible future title challenger after winning a strong four-man tournament in Manila ahead of World Champion Anatoly Karpov - thus becoming the first player to finish ahead of Karpov in a tournament since the latter became world champion. "In the summer of 1976, three grandmasters traveled to Manila, Philippines to participate in the Marlboro-Loyola Kings Challenge chess tournament. They were (in order by Elo): World Champion Anatoly Karpov (2695) from the Soviet Union, Ljubomir Ljubojević (2620) from Yugoslavia, and Walter Browne (2585) from the United States. They were joined by grandmaster Eugenio Torre (2505) from the Philippines for a double-round robin event.
Anatoly Karpov vs Eugenio Torre
"Torre de Force" (game of the day Jun-19-2012)
Manila (1976), Manila PHI, rd 2, Jul-14
Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Neo-Modern Variation (B67)
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 b5 10. Qe1 Nd4 11. Rd4 Qb6 12. Rd2 Be7 13. Bd3 b4 14. Nd1 Bb5 15. Nf2 h6 16. Bh4 g5 17. fg5 hg5 18. Bg3 Nh5 19. Ng4 Ng3 20. hg3 Rh1 21. Qh1 Rc8 22. Kb1 Bd3 23. cd3 Qd4 24. Qd1 a5 25. Nh2 g4 26. Ng4 Bg5 27. Rc2 Rc2 28. Kc2 a4 29. a3 b3 30. Kb1 d5 31. ed5 Qd5 32. Nf2 Qg2 33. Ne4 Be3 34. Nc3 Qc6 35. d4 Qc4 36. d5 e5 37. Qh1 Qd3 38. Ka1 Bd4 39. Qh8 Kd7 40. Qa8 Qf1 41. Nb1 Qc4 42. Qb7 Kd6 43. Qb8 Kd5 44. Qd8 Ke6 45. Qe8 Kf5 46. Qd7 Kg6 47. Qg4 Kf6 48. Nc3 Qf1
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@tolyaph 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for featuring GM Eugenio Torre.

@sunaraj 6 жыл бұрын

DIY... Eugene Torre was the first coach of Vishy Anand when he was around 4- 5 years old and was living in Manila at that point in time...His father who was working for the Indian Railways was on a deputation to Philippines...Vishy returned to India when he was 6-7 years old as a pretty solid player and started playing at the Mikhail Tal Chess academy in Chennai...

@paulpatricio2427 6 жыл бұрын

thanks fti

@davegreentea6420 6 жыл бұрын

wow... that is a nice info on Torre and Vishy. Thanks Raj

@maverickmojana1164 4 жыл бұрын

wow thanks for sharing this

@godsdisciple2904 4 жыл бұрын

_Thanks Brother for Sharing😊🙏_

@arjunepal9918 4 жыл бұрын

what do you mean by DIY? Do It Yourself? Should it be FYI? which means For Your Information.. hmmmm

@ronaldallanbanares2440 6 жыл бұрын

i would just like to share guys that when I was 10 years old i competed the national tournament here in the philippines, and when I won one my few games there I remember I handed my notation sheet to mr. torre :) he was such a fine gentleman and a national hero..

@DUNONGTV 4 жыл бұрын

Yes He is one of the strongest pinoy chess master!

@jovenpapa9179 6 жыл бұрын

I was upset when zoltan ribli defeated my champion Eugene Torre at interzonals (1/8 championship). Sigh! Those days, I was really hooked on chess. Played on every street corner on our neighborhood!

@chesstropa5729 5 жыл бұрын

That was the candidates matches already, not the interzonals.

@billiebautista_videoeditor 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video ♥

@adnan4253 6 жыл бұрын

Like the way you give info and explains the moves.. you are great

@vijaynandyapgol6593 6 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if my phone went bad for some time:) but it's nice you made another video

@lovesYxel 6 жыл бұрын

Lovin' the Torre videos agad. Keep it up! Please show Wesley So videos.

@thor9695 6 жыл бұрын

New video from you is my free time

@Repyseek521 6 жыл бұрын

You can´t milk those...! :D

@godwin646 6 жыл бұрын

your explanation for why they dint play the move and why they resigned is very useful for beginners like me man .. tanz a lot

@peterpetrov6522 6 жыл бұрын

Karpov is the most underrated champion ever. In his prime he beat everybody consistently at classic chess and blitz for more than 10 years. His style is not particularly flashy, so that explains why he always loses on youtube. Always!

@dannybarcenas1729 6 жыл бұрын

I agree Tolya is my favourite Champion So humble His restricting positional style like a Python is what I enjoy to see

@discodan1002 6 жыл бұрын

Pronunciation is spot on this time.

@brandey999 6 жыл бұрын

You dont have to apologize. HVALA for you videos.

@Rafaga777 6 жыл бұрын

Great game. Nice worthplay as well: Thrilla in Manilla referring to the famous boxing match :-)

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+alborada777 Ali and Fraizer clamied it before Karpov and Torre :)

@Rafaga777 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I know but nevertheless a great title. Maybe you could call your next game Rumble in the jungle :-)

@alvinruben1213 6 жыл бұрын

proud filipino here. tnx for the vid..

@itawachi_desu 6 жыл бұрын

Alvin Ruben Mabuhay!

@goda7137 6 жыл бұрын

Marami tayo mga kababayan

@archangel98632 6 жыл бұрын

Pinoy chessplayers UNITE! XD

@paulpatricio2427 6 жыл бұрын

lodi Torre ahaha

@sheanga-a2981 6 жыл бұрын

yeeahh, boi

@joserizal1870 6 жыл бұрын

Filipinos Love this channel already. Thanks for making the video! Mabuhay.

@itawachi_desu 6 жыл бұрын

Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! Yes i am a filipino thx for the chess vid

@bisanopait9790 5 жыл бұрын

Joaquin Manalang OA ka...

@thriquinox 5 жыл бұрын

@@bisanopait9790 y tho

@komatsu7060 4 жыл бұрын

paborito kong channel to, d ko akalain na may masasaling pinoy.. mabuhay nga

@detectivemarkseven 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@reformierende_person 3 жыл бұрын

nagsilabasan na naman proud pinoy mas mabuti pa kay im nava kayo manuod wag dto gatasin lng kayo ng mga foreigner

@MrSupernova111 6 жыл бұрын

Very nice analysis!

@christopherespulgar8477 5 жыл бұрын

Great tactical game from asia's first grandmaster

@gavinegil4417 6 жыл бұрын

agadmator your right Bobby fisher was here in the Philippines during the aforementioned tournament and he ( Bobby) lives in Baguio City.

@MadderMel 5 жыл бұрын

Impressive !! And to win by 1 and a half points !

@gonzalo4658 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect king placement at the end. Engine moves.

@amyalindaily3781 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@markeddisditaunon5959 6 жыл бұрын

I have a question regarding blocking of knight on e1 rather than placing it on b1. White is still ok in that position. Kindly answer my question mr. Agad. So i can analyze it. Ty

@ldeans5620 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a great game and great commentary. Thanks for putting in the effort.

@el_lowell 4 жыл бұрын

nice ... Tho, I thought I had seen it already ... yes I thumb up all , as watched

@chezzorilla 6 жыл бұрын

Check the incredible game between Stockfish and Andsacs at TCEC today, a beauty!

@mbpanzo 4 жыл бұрын

After Qa8 from h8, is it possible that Torre could have taken the knight immediately or is it not good?

@ASMinlok 6 жыл бұрын

agadmator, in turn 24 a5 would Queen to a4 be a good idea??

@progamer444 6 жыл бұрын

WHY ARE YOU STILL NOT SPINNING, WE MISS IT!

@jamesnezhmetkovvassilyvik8112 3 жыл бұрын

Can you show the game between Mikhail Tal and Eugenio Torre Leningrad Interzonal 1973

@vinicius3938 6 жыл бұрын

Torre is how we call the rooks in Portuguese-Brazil xD

@laksoysoy 6 жыл бұрын

guess what, same here in the philippnies. that's what we call tower

@vinicius3938 6 жыл бұрын

koy, and the exactly translation of how we call the knights here would be “horses” hashhahaha When I first discovered how people call the “horses” in English I felt surprised cuz it makes a lot of more sense

@laksoysoy 6 жыл бұрын

I thought its caballero

@vinicius3938 6 жыл бұрын

It’s “cavalo”, what let us with a curious impression that nobody is riding the horse, like he was moving by itself hahahah That’s with “Knight” or even “caballero” makes more sense, I mean, why would a horse goes in “L” by itself ahhahahahha

@myst9261 3 жыл бұрын

Portugal Brazil and Philippines was influenced by Spain so i guess there are similarities in the language

@markboggs746 6 жыл бұрын

Finally we get to see what the sofa actually looks like!

@raghav4866 6 жыл бұрын

Make videos on game of anand

@sarjhon 5 жыл бұрын

If I ever see Mr. Torre here in the Philippines, I will ask him if Karpov and Fischer played.

@lubannahin565 6 жыл бұрын

After watching yesterday's video I thought my phone's speaker was damaged.

@peterlisten 3 жыл бұрын

Is not the board in front of torre on the photo wrongly placed?

@josiahalj7229 6 жыл бұрын

Filipino here ty for making this video

@abisab9321 6 жыл бұрын

please do a tournament today

@rmendeljacobs2832 6 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. I do wonder how grandmasters can miss a tactic like that with queen check on h8.

@tnglobe25 4 жыл бұрын

because torre allowed it.

@TeddyIV_777 6 жыл бұрын

This has been part of Philippine history! Filipino here also ^.^

@amalyul 6 жыл бұрын

Famous relationship between the bishop and knight.😂😂

@dontyouwanttoknow8404 6 жыл бұрын

what's wrong with knight going back to b2?

@kaiserjarme1533 4 жыл бұрын

Manila. Philippines!! Woo hoo

@user-cx2bk6pm2f 2 жыл бұрын

Clean shaven Agad.. he looks so young! 😀

@nicbentulan Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@abhisheksaikia4561 6 жыл бұрын

Torre missed a forced mate in 5 after move 41 41... Bxb2+ 42. Kxb2 Qf2+ 43. Nd2 Qxd2+ 44. Kb1 Qa2+ 45. Kc1 Qc2# Even GMs are humans after all :)

@jakesanchez3415 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and besides, people can only see perfect moves when spectating. But we cannot do it perfectly during the real match with a time ticking. Especially during blitz.

@sarjhon 6 жыл бұрын

Please do Torre vs Tal

@harabas3499 6 жыл бұрын

nice!

@eugeneoquias7103 Жыл бұрын

I am very proud of being a Filipino..

@nicbentulan Жыл бұрын

Speaking of being a Filipino: There's something new going to with "w"esley "s"o Someone said Wesley is the most inconsistent player in terms of tournament results. I think it's consistent that Wesley So's been performing so-so in the 3 events between the 2022 Olympiad and the 2022 chessc*m global championship, namely St Louis' 9LX, the US Chess Championship and the World Fischer Random Chess Championship. The reason is that Wesley started a secret relationship with Carissa Yip at the Olympiad. My basis: A. These events at the Olympiad: 1 - Look at Carissa's Twitter header. It's a photo of just Wesley and Carissa (and Leinier and 1 other). 2 - You can see Levon was being Wesley's wingman when they were teasing Carissa about castling (which is pretty ironic given what happened later to Wesley in the WFRCC, but well I guess it goes to show how little preparation Wesley did for the 2019 WFRCC... Anyway...). You can see Levon even makes a 'mistake' in saying that when you castle, the king goes 2 squares, which allows Wesley to say 'unless it's chess960' to flex being the inaugural WFRCC. (Levon also probably has a soft spot for Wesley because Arianne Caoili was Filipina. RIP.) 3 - There's a Tagalog interview where Wesley was asked about romantic relationships, namely if Wesley has a 'special someone'. (Btw, Tagalog interviews of Wesley are pretty rare, so for me I think they're pretty important.) It was probably this interview that gave Wesley a wake up call to finally start a relationship with Carissa. B. And later in the USCC Wesley talks about how teenagers always play for a win because they don't have family, bills or GIRLFRIENDS. Wesley laughs at the girlfriends part. (NOTE: I already compiled the above in a video. The ID is vylMndunCa8 .) So what I guess is: At the Olympiad, they got together, but, because of their 1 decade age gap, they decided to keep their relationship a secret. 5 years from now, when Carissa will have graduated from Stanford, their ages 19&29 will become 24&34, the minimum age when the half your age plus 7 rule is satisfied. (See post ID wf0pkg for the formula.) But still, since it was both of their 1st times dating, they were very distracted eg talking on the phone all night. Notice that Wesley hasn't made any Facebook posts between the start of the Olympiad and the end of the CGC. I guess this is because the time Wesley would've used for Facebook went to talking to Carissa. Anyway, we don't see much of an impact, if any, on Carissa because Carissa stopped playing chess for awhile for studies at Stanford. But, well, we did see much impact on Wesley in getting only - 5th place out of 10 in 9LX, - 6th of 14 in USCC and - 6th of 8 in the WFRCC The WFRCC underperformance was the last straw. It was like the Beth and Cleo thing in The Queen's Gambit. Wesley and Carissa decided to slow down their relationship. And then voilà Wesley wins $200,000 in the CGC and can now fully celebrate with Carissa. Finally, Wesley said in an interview with Dina Belenkaya during the FIDE Grand Prix ('I am not afraid of Hikaru') that Wesley's mom, Lotis Key, didn't want Wesley to use Twitter. Who else but Carissa (your new girlfriend/romantic partner) could've convinced Wesley (yourself) to defy Lotis (your mom/parent) ? Update: Someone pointed out to me that at 33:33 of the 2021 us chess championship closing ceremony Carissa admits to being star struck by Wesley So. Take a look at Wesley's reaction to that. Lol. TL;DR See vylMndunCa8

@dereklewis4321 6 жыл бұрын

Not a Filipino but tnx for the upload!

@gonzalo4658 3 жыл бұрын

Why it matter if ur a filipino

@Circuit7Active 6 жыл бұрын

How about analyzing one of Torre's games where he uses the Torre Attack?

@sohambansal4175 6 жыл бұрын

Torre Attack was named after Carlos Torre, a Mexican chess master.

@jamesnezhmetkovvassilyvik8112 3 жыл бұрын

@@sohambansal4175 Affirmative 👍, he defeated Frank James Marshall with his own attack though

@vananthonya.morano6548 4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video of Mikhail Tal against Eugenio Torre😁

@henrytaneo3938 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if agadmator features Sir Eugene's games against former world champions that would be nice. Ive been following Agadmators vids back 2020 as I am following chess tournaments these days. And came across here. It's just nice to see filipinos playing chess competitively despite of the lack of support. 😊😊😊

@nicbentulan Жыл бұрын

yeah see what i posted about pichay who got re-elected recently despite supposedly going to prison. sigh.

@nicbentulan 2 жыл бұрын

wow 1 year after the boxing thrilla in manila. someday there could be a chessboxing version. lol.

@nicbentulan Жыл бұрын

or chess960 boxing version

@segengiovannafuentabella2819 5 жыл бұрын

Shout out sa mga Pilipino diyan! Wow ang galing tlaga ni Eugene torre

@wrinai 6 жыл бұрын

Bravo Torre Bravo !!!

@jethroaquino9449 5 жыл бұрын

Joey Antonio is a filipino GM too.

@dontask23 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. The voice was low. I have realized that but thought that it was due to outside noise 😅

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+Dont Ask :D

@Hybe123 6 жыл бұрын

Is that an Alistar reference? :D I mean, I know it's a saying but was is inspired by Alistar?

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+Hybe It was. Ali's my favorite :D

@NeAyumu 4 жыл бұрын

@@agadmator you playing league too?!

@rayalleba8216 4 жыл бұрын

@@agadmator sir please analyse Tal vs Torre..thanks a lot..

@jeromelapig8288 3 жыл бұрын

2020 anyone? GM Eugenio Torre the first Asian Grand master 🇵🇭

@nicbentulan Жыл бұрын

2022

@marmoe771 6 жыл бұрын

Nice game by torre

@benmangubat8005 4 жыл бұрын

Laban Pilipinas

@MasterTatski 4 жыл бұрын

He just won gold in SEA games 2019!

@mayattv4986 4 жыл бұрын

It was too easy for him. 💪

@bennya2846 5 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to let u know the sound was different yesterday, like the gain was minimised , now u know!

@jmpd1504 6 жыл бұрын

Yay! He finally pronounced his name right :) :) :) Filipino here :)

@herculhesebol3237 6 жыл бұрын

Torre plays solid chess!

@JHarder1000 4 жыл бұрын

Wait a minute..didn't Timman beat Karpov a couple of times as well?

@MrJgarboy 6 жыл бұрын

Ya at this time you are right on how to pronounced it. Hahaha

@divinabagalanon11 5 жыл бұрын

I already saw eugene torre in real life at cotabato because we have a tournament there thatis national

@albertorpilla4953 6 жыл бұрын

Respect to Torre

@jovincebrillantes1042 6 жыл бұрын

Wesley So is representing America, so technically Eugenio Torre is still the only Filipino GM...

@kuligkutig 6 жыл бұрын

Vince Sanity you mean Torre is still historically the top Filipino GM not the ONLY. there are other Filipino GMs. Rogelio Balinas to name 1.

@jovincebrillantes1042 6 жыл бұрын

Oh Yeah.. right..Thanks for that... I was typing so fast my sentence came out wrong

@davegreentea6420 6 жыл бұрын

Why is So representing America?

@niki8280 6 жыл бұрын

You have no idea how corrupt and incompetent our national sports program is, do you? lol. Wesley So gave us a chance to reply to his request to move to the USA. They didn't reply. They never even acknowledged that they received the request. There are similar stories from different athletes from different ports in the country.

@davegreentea6420 6 жыл бұрын

It is just a game. Corruption is everywhere, even in America, and if and when you go to hell itself, I am sure you will find corruption there too. Sorry, I do not read much about your sports program. A great boxer comes from your country without much support from your so called national sports program. Just play chess... regardless of what your passport is... and enjoy the game. It is either you are black or white, that is all there is to it.

@bezzlebedeviled4756 5 жыл бұрын

8:35 -- If, instead of d4, Karpov had played Qe2 (harassing the bishop and inviting Qh1 for a queen-trade), it leads to: ...Qh1+, Qd1, Qxd1+, Kxd1, Bd2 (thwarting Nc3 or Nd3 while keeping White's king hopelessly trapped in the corner,), Nf2, f5 (thwarting Nd4 or Nh4), g4 ...and a delightful end-game ensues in which Black is ahead, but both players have plenty of opportunity to blunder.

@expomaker8636 6 жыл бұрын

A tough game for karpov

@johnmarkraqueno2051 6 жыл бұрын

Proud filipino

@Jirogutierrez1810 5 жыл бұрын

I am also a filipino😊😊

@pauljustin9583 6 жыл бұрын

4:38 😲 awesome

@dickmann1979 4 жыл бұрын

if you see karpov with double pawns you know hes in trouble.

@allen3178 6 жыл бұрын

Hey mate I suggest changing the title to Thrilla in Manila.

@Razorcarl 3 жыл бұрын

He did?

@sv6920 2 жыл бұрын

Why did Torre reveal his next move? Can someone explain?

@user-uj2cq6rd8n 6 жыл бұрын

Mabuhay ang mga Pinoy.Sana sa future may Filipino na maging World Champion

@vendersaddul2823 6 жыл бұрын

i love your videos but i noticed lately that they blur at some portion of the video,i have no right to complain, but just saying, you may not be aware. thanks for the videos.

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

Blur? :)

@vendersaddul2823 6 жыл бұрын

you know like the camera is out of focus... it starts clear, and then it blurs and then at the end part it becomes clear again. i've observed this in several videos not just one.

@nars8106 5 жыл бұрын

@@vendersaddul2823 maybe because your quality setting is set to Auto mode. If you have a slow internet speed, it will change to lower quality from 720p automatically.

@martinprieto9713 6 жыл бұрын

No dislikes... Let's keep it that way!

@jolez_4869 6 жыл бұрын

changed it. loljk

@guyharel5087 6 жыл бұрын

Someone did change it tho

@bluesaint08 6 жыл бұрын

Nice analysis! 🇵🇭

@ABHAYCHETTY 3 жыл бұрын

Mess with the rooks and you get the trunks.

@pthiago_s5075 6 жыл бұрын

Torre is how the hook is called in portuguese btw

@FloydMaxwell 6 жыл бұрын

I never noticed a problem with yesterday's video so not to worry. If you want to hear bad recordings, check out my podcasts ;-)

@FloydMaxwell 6 жыл бұрын

Also, feel free to not tell us about donations that are less than $1

@MrSomeperson99 6 жыл бұрын

Some really clever advertising here hahaha

@FloydMaxwell 6 жыл бұрын

I am actually highly aware of audio and things like gain. I built my own sound studio, etc. I'm envious of how other podcasts sound and have yet to set mine up in the way I like. BTW, I went back to yesterday's video and noticed the low volume this time -- I guess I had just cranked up the volume level on my speakers and not thought twice about it.

@excalibirb9204 6 жыл бұрын

What mic is agadmator using?

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+solo yolo The Blue Yeti

@Hybe123 6 жыл бұрын

Is it worth the price? Cause I'm thinking of buying it too.

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+Hybe I'm amazed by how good it is.

@Hybe123 6 жыл бұрын

Nice, thanks for the info, I'm probably gone buy it then :D

@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын

+Hybe my girlfriend bought it for my birthday :)

@maxlisk80 6 жыл бұрын

What's with these Penny contributions??

@bentumbling8899 5 жыл бұрын

Torre is Asia's first GM

@rogerbalasubas6437 4 жыл бұрын

GM Torre !

@fordgaming4326 6 жыл бұрын

Torre was a good player from philippines

@robertlynvlog7897 4 жыл бұрын

great player in the Philippines..

@benderrodriguez9753 6 жыл бұрын

Torre was lucky because the sports commission wasn't so corrupt back then. Today it's like walking in the mud full of shit.Going to the US is the correct move or check mate.