Man all the ww2 planes where beautiful, it’s easy to forget the reason they where built was strictly as a weapon of war.

Great video, thank you! From all my years of reading about WW2, I'm 66 now I have found a few interesting things. At least they are to me. I have read that a 109 could out dive a Spitfire and out turn a P-51. I have thought that if I was a Luftwaffe pilot I'd want to fly a FW-190 on the eastern front but against the western Allies I'd want to fly a BF-109. The reason is that most air battles in the east were below 5-10,000 feet and the Focke-Wulf FW-190 is a great at low and medium altitudes. The Messerschmit BF-109 was better at high altitude which when you are attacking a formation of B-17's or B-24's at 25,000 feet the 109 was designed as a high altitude intercepter like the Spitfires and the P-51's. the Focke Wulf FW-190's began to lose power over about 15-20,000 feet. I know the FW-190 culd carry a lot more ordinance than a 109, but if I'm dogfighting a Mustang at 25,000 feet I'd want a 109. I have also read that after WW2 that a good number of test pilots were assembled and they flew every Axis fighter and all the Allied fighters except for the Russian fighters Their conclusion for best overall fighter to fly was the F6F Hellcat. And I can live with that even though I'm a P-51 freak and during WW2 my parents worked for Norh American building B-25's and P-51 Mustangs. And that's where my parents met. Yes, now I am a geezer.

Some lovely footage. Thanks for posting. I have always preferred the Fw 190's lines, however I think the Bf 109 looks more brutal and war like. It must have been something else to see a Focke Wulf Ta-152 or the Dornier Do-335 flying when they existed.

Prof. Kurt Tank war ein genialer Konstrukteur. Seine Entwürfe noch selbst zu fliegen und zu verbessern zeigte seine Fachkompetenz.

I love your footage, so clear and with beautiful sound. Thank you for sharing! Every new video is a delight.

I still think the 190 Dora was Germany's best piston-engine fighter plane of WWII.

The Bf-109 and the Fw-190 are two of the greatest combat aircraft in the history that has been built in Germany

Thanks for the upload! As a military is always enjoyable to see these old war-birds in action. Both where fantastic machines of their time from a pure technical perspective. With the octane problem in mind I really must give it to engineers how they could get such fantastic performance from them. Anyhow Great Channel with many enjoyable videos. :P Gives me something else to think of during boring ours of duty...

It says in the video that the FW190 first flew in 1943. That's incorrect. It became operational with the first Luftwaffe units in August 1941.

Nice! Good video, great quality as usual. :-)

Fw 190 better at low to medium altitude, Bf 109 better above, although the "Dora-9" was equal to late war Bf 109s at high altitude. Late war Bf 109s out-accelerated and outclimbed any other fighter, save perhaps late war Spitfires.

Close performance. All down to the pilot's ability in the end. Great video again. 🇬🇧

Captain Eric "Winkle" Brown was a British test pilot who flew and evaluated almost all German fighter planes of ww2. I think he said the 109 was excellent at climbing and turning, but in a fast dive the controls become very stiff and nearly useless. And he mentioned a problem with blinding frost forming on the windshields at high altitude.

BF109 ! Such a beautiful plane

Thank you so much for this beautiful flight video.

IMO they were equal "pains-in-the-ass" for the RAF and USAF and both can hold their heads up equally high. However, for me the 109 is a better looking girl and she has an awesome soundtrack to boot. I would be extremely honoured to see either perform at an airshow.

Hello - excellent video - leaving aside all the technical and performance issues, the 109 is a beautiful aircraft to look at...it looks like it wants to get up and fly when it's on the ground...in the air, it's look and sound, so sleek, like a hawk...I've seen vintage film of 109s in a "Schwarm", so impressive to see, like a hungry group of hawks itching to find prey in order to attack it...

What many don’t know is there was a huge maintenance advantage the BF-109 had over the Spitfire. It took the same amount of time to replace the 109’s engine as to rearm it. Thus, with 1 damaged Spitfire, and 1 damaged 109, the 109 could be on target before the Spitfire could get off the ground.

Very nice, thanks for sharing...

i love watching Klaus Plasa putting on a display to me He is the ultimate Display Pilot

As a Frenchman upon seeing this video I immediately surrendered.

That's a sweet little taxiing robot at the beginning of the video!

Ive flown so many types of aircraft that Ive lost count and it always comes down to what job do you want it to do today? Carry a load or cross a mountain range? Do you need range on this job or can you sacrifice that for speed? Is fuel available at the next strip or not so what can you carry? I suspect it's the same with fighters in no one size fits all missions.

I wish my father-in-law was alive so he could see your videos... He was a mechanic in the Luftwaffe (40-45).

Very nice. Thank you.

I'd say something like this: 1939-42: Bf 109 1942-43: Fw 190 1944-45: Bf 109 again. The problem with the Fw-190 is that once there were allied fighters that were fast enough to catch it, it really had no advantage at all. The 109 can at least defend itself in a maneuvering fight against a theoretically superior fighter. It's all down to pilot skill of course, and that's another area where the Fw-190 tends to shine, since it was easier to train a new recruit on than a 109, which takes a lot of skill to use to its fullest. It's a misconception that the 109 was retired in favor of the 190. It was retired in favor of the ME-262 and Ta-152, which were both aircraft of a totally different generation from the Bf 109s and Fw-190As that characterized most of the war. The 190 D-9 did replace the 109 in production, but this was intended as a temporary measure until Ta-152 production could get under way, it just happened that the war ended first.

Great comparison, beautifully restored planes. However, consider that the BF 109 was designed several years earlier.

Nice video, but some points: 1.) The red ticker ("Laufschrift") is very hard to read, especially versus a green grass or grey concrete background. 2.) It contains plain wrong information, e.g. at 3:40: "The FW 190 took off in March 1943 the first time"??? It flew in mid of 1941 at the English channel against the RAF already. In case you refer to the A-8 version, this flew in 1944-45 only. And the Bf 109 G version also very late in the war, certainly not in December 1935.

God I love the sound of that DB 605.

Not gonna lie, That tug is really cool.

I appreciate that you have no new footage to show, Was 109 or 190 the best is not a subject that any expert can comment on. The answer is YES, BOTH GOOD Aircraft. Variants etc, looking forward to new content post COVID,, good luck, you are an aviation fan and I subscribe ! Maybe you can contact the owners and get some new footage in the hangers ? The place where the airctart are and what has been done since COVID >??

It is nice to keep these aircrafts flying condition and see them flying most wwii piolets are not with us

In General and overall FW 190 was the better plane

I think I remember that the FW outperformed the BF109 in almost every way but that pilots preferred the handling of the BF109.

Thinking that the 109 was better. Two reasons. Fuel injection and better high altitude performance. The Ta-152 was the evolution of both designs. But piston engine aircraft were obsolete later on. The ME 262 was just so much better. But by that point the Germans had virtually no more pilots and no fuel left to fight with.

Amazing!! Very well done! Beautiful airplanes!

Someone please show the camera man how to use the view finder.

The 109 definitely sounds the best

I still prefer the look of the Me 109 Emil over any other variant

Rainer wenn es wieder Flugtage gibt.... Dann ist die Welt wieder in Ordnung Thomas

If you are going to make assumptions about the two planes, just remember to define agility better: The 109 had a tighter turn radius than the 190 and didn't suffer from low speed maneuverability issues. The 190 was more agile in the fact it had a better dive, roll rate and reversal that's it. The 109 could do everything better than the 190 outside of that and at all altitudes. If you want to know what the best version of the 109 was that never made it out of prototype stages: bf-109L Go look it up. It would have replaced the TA-152's and matched the late model Spitfires 20+ at all altitudes. One nice thing about this video is that 109 is a true 109, not a replica copy cat with an Allison engine. 2 ways to spot it engine sound, and rather or not the cowl under the nose and wings matches the original.

The FW 190 was that one time BMW actually made something great

The Fw190's performance was worse at high altitudes compared to the Bf109. It's a big deal because the Luftwaffe's fighter force was neck deep in dealing with bomber intercepts over Europe. A lot of those were facing high altitude USAAF bombers. IMO the 190 was a better fighter in general over the 109, but at high altitudes, that's where the 109 found its specialty. Mind you, the Fw190D finally gave the series a high altitude performer, but it arrived too late in the war having only started production in August 1944. The Ta152 was an offshoot of the Fw190 and a high altitude performer, too. But it was far too late when it entered service in 1945 as well as only 69 being built.

In the manouver and cost for production the Bf 109 wins But in firepower,weight,and versatility the Fw 190 is better

Either or.....and depending on who flew them and that's coming from Germany's top WW2 aces.

No contest. The 190 was half a generation ahead of the 109 which was too small. The 109 was always being bodged up to try to mitigate its various flaws. No room in the wings for guns, no room in the rest of it for fuel or a better engine. Tiny cockpit with barred glazing, poor visibility. Narrow undercarriage causing loads of accidents. The 190 was designed from scratch with none of that nonsense. Wide undercarriage for rough eastern front strips. Excellent visibility. Heavy armament. More resilient radial engine. Fly by wire controls. Instant impact when it introduced, immediately taking air superiority from the Spitfire V which had met the 109F on equal terms. It even looked cooler, especially the D.

Where is it?

If I had to choose to fly one, than the Fw-190.

Es ist und bleibt Deutsche wertarbeit.

8:51 just as he revs up I swear I thought hes going to put it in reverse and park it up :(

I can answer that with out watching the video.The planes are basically the same design,The experience of the pilot.For example give me a top class tennis Racket ,and John McEnroe a frying pan,I can safely say McEnroe would win.

Некорректная постановка вопроса . Каждый хорош в своей области применения . Как фронтовой истребитель , лучше Bf-109 , а перехватчик " крепостей " лучше FW-190.

The G6 was design to atack bombers Try wirh the G10 or G14

I choose Fw 190

i have to report that my dad were a air gunner in a b25 bomber he told me that the fw190 was the one they feared the most during air raids over france why he wouldnt say maybe because he lost many buddies in combat to this aircraft just a comment from the past

Die Aufnahmen sind super, aber der Erstflug der Fw 190 Prototypen war 1939 und der Erstflug der A-Modelle war schon 1940/1941 nicht erst 1943. A-1 ab Sommer 1941 beim JG 26.

Which one is better would also depend on which version of the three planes, and bout which chargersetting the mustangs are using, thus also, at which altitude they compete. The German chargers might be variable, yes. But Mustangs with high alt charger settings would perform better if they compete at altitude, while on the deck they have pretty equal output. That doesn`t even take into account other allied high performers like the P-47, the late Spits and the Tempest. And non the least, the pilots and their leadership are, what counts. Let`s face it, it never were just the numbers, why the Luftwaffe totally lost air superiority. They totally wasted their numbers during the Battle of Britain, in the Mediteran Sea and ofc in Russia. Sometimes due to incompetence, sometimes inexperience and sometimes, because they were simply outmatched. My old gliding instructor, may he rest in peace, was a Ju-88 pilot in the mediteran theatre. He was shot down several times due to heavy resistance from land, air and sea. He had quiet some storys to tell about what the Luftwaffe and German planes lacked or didn`t lack.

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Depends what version 109 lol

Well it's a brave man who's prepared to name the 'best' WW 2 fighter but a Merlin powered P51 is certainly going to out class a FW 190 A series in most respects, and most certainly at altitudes above 6000 m. Now the FW 190 D is a different matter of course but that aircraft isn't featured in this video.

3:43 the Fw 190 flew for the first time in June 1939 and saw entry into production in 1941 :) it saw action around the same time as the Bf 109Fs on the western front and both proven to be an incredible duo againts the Spit MkVs

So viele Experten hier. Habt ihr diese Flugzeuge geflogen? Wart ihr im Krieg? Warum maßt ihr euch dann an zu wissen welche besser war.

I know that a lot of people like the Bf 109 but Focke-wulf 190 is better at landing and in its early years it was better than the bf 109 because of the load of amo it takes and how much damage it can take.

Apples and oranges but I'll go with the 109 in a dogfight it was plenty good enough for Hartmann and Marseille.

Fw 190 was superior. The 109 did its job well but lets not fool ourselves.

No Swastika marking on the tail, really?

Below 25k feet the FW-190, any altitude above the Bf-109 was much superior

Out if all the nations flying in ww2, Deutschland had the coolest looking..

The Fw-190 was superior to the Bf-109 in nearly aspect, including take off and landing stability and top speed, maneuverability, climb and dive.

God! Those planes are super sexy.

Early war: Bf 109. Late war: Focke-Wulf.

Bf109G6"Gustav" Ich respektiere deutsch und englisch, amerikanisch, russische Luftfahrt

Pretty poor title. Beautyful pictures.

Both.

Bf109 is best in my opinion

It's amazing how they remove the swastika. Do they remove the Japanese rising sun emblem? No. Great video though! Me-109 shot down more aircraft in world history.

Beautiful aircraft. Interesting what they did there with the swastika treatment on the tail, given it’s illegal status in Germany.

The 190 was a masterpiece of engineering. Copied by the allied. It had technology no other WWII fighter had. A beginner or average pilot could fly and kill with a 190. The 109 was horrible to handle. Dangerous for a beginner. Completely unstable. Loved by experienced pilots.

The 190 was far more versatile and could be developed the 109 was a dead end and many thousands lost just in landing. The 109g would have no chance against a 190 long nose D

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TT TT has the answer.

Bf 109 better but fw 190 has rockets also..

Why "...even P-51" ? P-51 was medicore warbird but its range, numbers and the fact that its pilots could dictate at which height to engage German warbirds and they always choose heights most favorable to their plane meant their position was far more advantageous. Remove all mentioned and P-51 is really medicore.

03:42 Didn't the FW-190A first start filtering into service late 1941, early 1942? I think it first flew well before March 1943. I expect the FW-190 to be 'better' than the Bf-109 - it was designed as a replacement after operational service with the the Messerschmitt. Was it 'better' than the P-51, a later design and another excellent fighter? Certainly no other single engine fighter could match the Mustang's range. Maybe the common factor was that the designers of all 3 were born and trained in Germany? Great footage- thank you very much!

109, herr Gunthar

Fw190

Fat Man Loved Them

Hungry

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7:29 cute non-swastika

My understanding is that the 109 did better over 25,000 feet than the 190. This made the 109 the weapon of choise for bomber intersept

foker wulf because he was better in the vertical and rate fighting

It's nothing to hunt

A mustang is faster than a wolf

FW 190 took off in 1943? Please....Are you joking? 🤣 In 1942 the 190 destroyed hundreds of enemies... ( And if you read some books, plus luftwaffe pilots, you will discover that the 190 A8 had not chances against P-51 and Spitfire IX ) Ask to yourself why HArtmann, Barkhorn and Rall always flew 109s.... P.S. Both are wonderful aircraft

The FW 190 was not as good as the P 51 Mustang! You ask a German what was best and he will tell you a German-made aircraft!

me-109 был лучше,потому что на 33000 самолетах модель-109 было уничтожено 120000 самолётов противника на всех фронтах .на 15000 мустангах -п-51 уничтожено не более 5000 самолетов.газолине -98 ,что требовался всем -109им был хорошим потому,что фарбен индустри получал в основном из руминского плоешти .на советских самолетах использовали бензин основнои окт -66.самолеты 20000-фв-190 были несовершенные самоделки ,как и все самолеты фоккера .люфтваффе каждый день териалы 12 самолетов фв -190, по причине неисправностей синхрозизатора оружия.курт танк был агентом кремля из группы мартина бормана .курт танк принёс сталину в 1945 году проекты -та-183 и -та-383-этот был суперсоник самолет.когда бомберы начали уничтожать плоешти ,тогда немцы были вынуждены сократить время подготовки летчиков истребителей с 250 часов до 50 часов и германия проиграла войну .друзья вы же понимайте,что топлива для войны просто закончилось .м е-109 лучший самолет той войны .виллхелм эмиль мессершмитт гордость немецкого народа .немцы могли выиграть войну с 109 ими ,но чтоб не выиграли специально создали тот дурацкий фоккер фв-190 в 20000 количестве .точно также как передали 10000 самолетов фоккер 1922-1923 ленинским большевикам .англичане не разрезали самолеты фоккера .они знали хорошо ,что фоккеры помогли им выиграть ту войну.антон фоккер и курт танк похожие друг на друга -высота-лицо-телосложение и оба были подлецами.больше у меня нету времени .желаю удачи в исследованиах и устанолению истины