As far as I’ve been concerned, the original MGS is still a perfectly viable option to experience the story of the first game. I do hope Twin Snakes gets released on a modern platform, though. If only for the sake of it not being stuck on the purple lunchbox for the rest of time.

Rob Paulson was also the voice of Raphael in the OG TMNT, so he already had plenty of experience voicing a ninja 😂

its time to talk about the Legacy of Kain Series mate

“Crawled in through the second floor vent near the helipad by the hanger” guilty of said maneuver

Fun Fact: This game was directed by Ryuhei Kitamura. Best known for directing Godzilla: Final Wars, Versus and Midnight Meat Train.

Nothing can replicate the cold, dark, almost mechanical atmosphere of the original ps1 classic

Snake cartwheel flipping around the doorframe is insane and will forever live rent free in my head

People say this was the first version of MGS 1 to have FPS view but that’s wrong. It was in MGS Integral

16:32 Too late, you already mentioned Rising, you have to review it now.

Twin Snakes is what happens when you combine MGS and the matrix stunts. People drew the line at unrealistic and unnecessary stunts, but clones, mind powers, and bi pedal nuclear weapons are perfectly fine

What some people seem to forget is that these cutscenes were at Kojima's request. Kitamura had done faithful recreations of the original cinematics but Kojima wasn't happy since he hired Kitamura for his style of movie making (over the top action movies, specifically the film Versus). Edit (post GmanLives reply): i reiterated your statement because of the people who still to this day state that The Twin Snakes ignores Kojima's 'vision' for what MGS1 should be. I've changed 'everyone' to 'some people' to better reflect this. No, it's not a defence of the changes, but a reply to an argument I've heard so many times.

I honestly believe it's like asking someone what the best Zelda game is. The answer is usually "which one did you play first"

Saw a theory that MGS1 on playstation is the real events that occur on Shadow Moses while Twin Snakes is an exaggerated story used for VR training purposes for Raiden. One of the pieces of "evidence" people used for this is that one of the weird prisms you'd see in like target practice VR Training missions is hidden near the top of Rex's hanger and you can see it in first person view. It also makes a bit of sense considering Raiden mentions the loads of VR, I seem to recall he said he did VR training of the Shadow Moses incedent, and it kinds takes the place of Ghost Babel which drops that bombshell on you at the end too.

"You must be a real threat in the muktuk eating contest..."

The amusing touch of adding the DarkSydePhil Fappening incident in a couple of times isn't lost to me, since how much he hates kojima because of how many times he died in his games.

The gray fox hallway scene wasn’t necessary I agree…. But man it’s still cool as fuck on its own

The Twin Snakes was my first exposure to MGS1. I’ve since played the original and loved it, but The Twin Snakes still holds a special place in my heart to the point it’s my go to version. I guess it depends on which one holds more nostalgia for you.

During the time Twin Snakes came out I was really into DMC so I thought it was the best thing ever to make MGS even more of a goofy anime game like DMC. It was only years later did I know most of the fandom hated TS. Still dont know why, still dont care, I think its a neat game.

The way someone explained the Twin Snakes was basically Otacon's perspective on how Shadow Moses went down.

I enjoyed The Twin Snakes. I rented it as a kid and played through it entirely. I mean the PS1 version is such a sacred cow that I think most MGS players would say it's better, and it is, but TTS wasn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be, at least imho. It definitely could've been improved upon though, I would love to see a remastered version that goes through and fixes some of the complaints about it.

Twin Snakes' cutscene direction always seemed to take after MGS2s. The thing is, the reason why Raiden does ridiculous action movie flips is because he's a soldier who was trained virtually. His concept of war is disconnected from reality, so he DOES see battle as an over-the-top action movie, or a video game. The villains in MGS2 can perform superhuman feats because they essentially have access to magic in the form of technology. When we're introduced to Snake in the Big Shell, all he does is fire his gun at Vamp and then sits down for a breather. Not to mention, when folks use MGS2 as a barometer for series "logic", it's misguided, since the entirety of MGS2 is likenened to a "bad dream" multiple times. This culminates in a finale in which all notions of logic, spacial reasoning, and traditional storytelling are thrown out the window. MGS1 presents us with a believable if campy world from beginning to end. MGS2 starts the same way, but like a frog slowly coming to boil, ramps up the insanity and makes you question what, if anything, has REALLY been happening. That's why MGS2s cutscene direction never worked in Twin Snakes for me. The game doesnt *earn* that suspension of disbelief the way Sons of Liberty does. It feels like emulation of another work without understanding that work. That said, I do think Twin Snakes is an absolute blast even if the design and direction isn't nearly as cogent as the original game.

I never played the original. I started with MGS 2. So this was how I got to experience the original story, as such this game holds a special place in my heart and is one of my favorites in the series. I played this thing over and over and over again. This one, MGS 3, and MGS 5 easily make my top three

The biggest problem for me were the performances. They paled in comparison compared to the OG PSX version. The voice actors sounded like they didn't want to be there.

This has always been a guilty pleasure. I actually kind of love it, but recommending someone play it over the original? Heresy!

I get your gripes, G-Man, but as an elementary schoolboy, this was gold to me, I wouldn’t change my 1st experience with MGS if I could!

I played this as a teen. It was great back then. The cutscenes were awesome.

*Even* in rising you are grounded, in its own context. Yes, Raiden can cut trough tank and run on the walls. But things all the bosses do? Summon army of small robots, telekinesis or well, being a robotic T-Rex. Snake is John Mclane fighting X-men, Raiden is Batman fighting Kriptonians.

One thing I did like about TTS is that the bosses all had unique boss fight themes. Cyborg Ninja is by far my favorite track in the game.

Legacy of Kane really needs a remaster or a remake... I played those games so much as a kid

Twin Snakes was the first MGS game I played, so it holds this special place in my heart and had eventually made my way to the OG... idk, I see why people have problems with Twin Snakes... But I don't. I love it. My first introduction to MGS, so I have no real comparison give a "yeah but the OG" because the OG to me is the lesser game. My expectations were set with Twin Snakes.

This needs waaaayyyyyyy more memes to be watchable

Fun Fact: The Director of this Game was Ryuhei Kitamura. He is a japanese Director of, mostly action films, like Versus, Azumi and other Stuff. And he is known for outlandish Action Sequences with guys flying all over the place just like in those Cutscenes. For example, the guy made a Godzilla movie called Final Wars and in one Scene a group of five genetically modified Humans with Laser Rifles take on a 400 Foot tall Shrimp by flying and jumping around like crazy, the whole background set explodes like in a Michael Bay Movie and some Hard Rock Music is playing while all of this happens. And that's like 3 or 4 Minutes in this crazy ass movie. Oh and the Soldiers win btw.

Twin Snakes is better than the OG Version imo.

and reverb fart.

Speaking of music, MGS series moved into generic spy flick territory starting with MGS2 and Harry Gregson-Williams becoming the main composer. The original MGS soundtrack feels more like Angelo Badalamenti and the whole game gives Lynch vibes with anxiety and melancholy looming somewhere close. It’s too bad this feel got mostly lost with other installments.

Another difference one could mention between the two versions is the writing. Jeremy Blaustein is the sole translator for the original MGS. A big part of that game's tone and character direction is because of how he translated Kojima's dialogue into something more understandable for the West. After Kojima realized that Blaustein tweaked his script (despite MGS becoming a huge hit in the US), Blaustein was fired. The Twin Snakes could then be seen possibly as an attempt by Kojima to give the international community a more "accurate" version of MGS (Matrix shenanigans aside).

No Tourettes Guy soundbites in this but the DSP cutaways made up for it

I can understand why purists don't like Twin Snakes, but personally I dig the over the top cutscenes and such. Snake's supposed to be a legendary soldier: a sort of Captain America of his universe. To have him do the sort of thing you'd find Christian Bale's character in Equilibrium doing sold his skills helped build his legend. Not to mention, it's not like that cutscene with the Ninja at the start got rid of his mystique. Seeing him carve up the same guards you've been sneaking around like he's a Japanese Michael Myers was terrifying.

My theory is twin snakes is a VR mission being done by Raiden. That’s why the cutscenes are all flippy ninja fights

Fun fact, the guy who directed the remade cutscenes in this game was the same guy who directed Godzilla Final Wars, Ryuhei Kitamura.

I remember playing the original MGS was in a short demo at my local Kmart, but never got to play it through completely until Twin Snakes... This review kinda makes me feel like I played it illegitimately with the new additions they added from MGS2. So the next time I play it, either I hold back with the first-person shooting, or just download the PS1 version on the Switch. As for the over-the-top cutscenes... it can be kinda argued the cutscenes in the later games practically match it almost.

Twin Snakes is basically the MGS movie we would have gotten from whatever major Hollywood director they would inevitably attach to it. It’s the Bayheimer version of Metal Gear.

According to David Hayter, Snake himself, the reason why they re-recorded the dialogue was because the GameCube's audio system was more advanced than the PlayStation's and they had originally recorded the dialogue in an apartment instead of a soundproof room. If they had used the original audio, we would have heard all the traffic that was going on back then.

I grew up playing the original on PS1 relentlessly, and Twin Snakes was one of the first games I played on GameCube. I guess I’m definitely the minority but I actually liked Twin Snakes a lot more than the original.

In my opinion it really fumbled the vibe in certain scenes like sniper wolfs death. Gameplay wasn't translated well also. The original voice acting can never be topped and twin snakes sorta was wonkey. It's okay but I much prefer the OG

I consider it to be better than the original. The hate on the "stupid and unrealistic" cutscenes I think is hilarious. Because backflipping on a missile is not ok, but bees lifiting a guy into a helicopter in Snake Eater is.

I was always baffled with one choice in this game. It has a bunch of dumb flips and acrobatic moves to the point of parody. But in the snowfield in MGS1 Snake leaps out of the of a tank shot and lands a sick recovery slide. The move makes sense, works and looks great. In Twin Snakes, Snake just stands there and gets blasted back against the blastdoor. I never understood the decision to remove the only original "flip scene" Edit: 17:47 oh hey you mentioned it before I got there!

This was my first exposure to Metal Gear and for that I am forever grateful. Say what you will but this will always be a classic to me.

My head-canon is Twin Snakes is Raiden's VR Training.

I also read that Kojima wanted new voice actors for this remake, but David Hayter (OG voice of Solid Snake) stepped in and used his money to bring back most of the original cast.

The use of music. Comparing Original and Twin has a huge impact on feelings for me.

The original voicework for Grey Fox was one of my favourite in gaming let alone in MGS.

11:58 and 33:10 reverb fart

I never thought someone would be complain about having MORE gameplay options.

I'm in the category of people who have ONLY played Twin Snakes and have never played MGS1 but this video genuinely made me want to play MGS1. I never realized how different the art direction is between them and yes, per this video, MGS1 has way more character and stylized visuals. It really makes TS look drab by comparison. Also, I never thought about how the first person aiming lets you cheese so many sequences. Will definitely be playing MGS1 the next time I revisit this series

I love it when eternal darkness is brought up. I truly wish we had more tubers playing it, or doing a retrospective on that masterpiece.

Playing the game differently was never a bad thing. Just because the og made you learn the mechanics of the game in one way doesn't mean in this version with it's new mechanics everything was going to be the same. Finding new solutions to old issues is kinda cool. An let's be honest everyone should play the original but a new coat of paint after the tenth playthrough is never a bad thing. If it is then never play a mod again.

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As much as I loved Twin Snakes when it came out, I have found that using Duckstation to emulate the PS1 version which allows for many of the niggly nuances that the OG had to basically be removed and give a far better image and have enjoyed playing it on my Steam Deck. Twin Snakes is still fantastic, and doubly so when ran through Dolphin, but having the OG music and voice acting as well as the remedied graphics all through Duckstation still makes it the ultimate way to play it.

Twin Snakes was my first MGS1 experience and at the time I thought it was awesome, but once I played the original MGS1 I never went back to Twin Snakes.

Well, if you think the cut-scenes in this are unrealistic... the first game wasn't exactly by the book on realism either. Let's just say that if you fire a stinger missile at a helicopter in real life, it doesn't take several of them to cause a chopper to crash. One is usually quite enough. And sure, while the Hind D is notorious for being heavily armored to the point where it's sometimes considered a flying tank, it mostly just have good protecton against small arms fire. A stinger missile will cut through a Hind like it was made of paper. The more common limitation for stingers is against jet aircraft since a stinger doesn't have a relatively long range or speed, so jet fighters can dodge them or just straight outrun them if they have enough head start. Also to disable the crew by chucking a fragmentation grenade into a tank, you also don't normally require several grenades. It's really cramped conditions inside of a tank so a single frag will easily turn the entire crew to paste.

Letting Kitmura be director for the cutscenes is like letting Zack Snyder direct a Studio Ghibli movie.

Snakes' midichlorine count must have skyrocketed.😮

Fun fact; the song "best is yet to come" the language of the lyrics is gaelic, singer is Irish.

Your complaint about the visuals is exactly how i felt about the Shadow of the Colossus remake. It was too clean.

Love your videos mate ! ❤ I hope you'll one day consider playing or reviewing " Vampire Night " for the ps2.. it really has some unique features that I haven't seen in any other ps2 game at the time.

Meryll would get *wrecked*

That "mid-air, mind you.." has to be a Seinfeld reference 😂

I'd argue that Twin Snakes is more tonally in line with the following games than MGS1 itself was. MGS 2, 3, and 4 all have moments at least as ridiculous as the rocket backflip. I don't think that the voice direction was quite as good as the original but thats really my only complaint with it. Both it and the original are worth playing.

Now THIS is more like it G Man 👍🏻

With all the slo-mo and more athletic Snake you can tell Kojima saw the Matrix films between MGS and Twin Snakes.

36:06 Goddamn you and your DSP references are killing me LOL 🤣🤣🤣

I'd rather play The Twin Snakes than original MGS. And I will not apologize.

MGS1 is literally the better game in every single aspect, visuals included. Twin Snakes even managed to fuck up the art direction and atmosphere of the original.

I had always seen Twin Snakes as being Raiden's VR training that they reference in solid 2.

I do know people nowadays don't know the difference between Remaster (mostly graphical upgrade), Remake (significant changes under the hood), and Reimagining (More creative control like adding new areas or story changes).

Twin snakes is a good game, don't know wtf u going on about

Who said it was bad to begin with? When was Twin Snakes considered a bad game? Gamecube made all of the PS1 classics better.

I played this when it first came out and as a huge fan of the original I thought this was actually pretty good. Haven’t played it in a long time but I remember enjoying the game back then.

*gman in 20 years* "But first I have to shout out today's sponsor, Viagra! If you want a full review, ask your mom...."

And another one talking crap because he consumed other youtube videos about twin snakes nah i have enough i bet he and most people were not around when twin snakes came out a load of horseballs in this video the same stuff other youtubers trashed it years ago. WELL DONE!!!! NOBODY EVER TRASHED THAT GAME BEFORE 2013-15 BECAUSE OF THE SILICON KNIGHTS CONTROVERSY IF YOU DONT KNOW READ ABOUT IT EPIC TRASHED SILICON KNIGHTS. all of a sudden youtubers in that time talked bad about twin snakes I grew up with the original and twin snakes was highly praised its an kojima original it was still his vision for the remake and nobody ever i know had a problem with this game!! EVER!!! ITS ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES EVER AND I WILL DEFEND IT BECAUSE I HAVE ENOUGH THAT "KZfaq GAMING INFLUENCERS "THATS WHAT YOU ARE" talking crap about it because you infesting other people to also think like you about twin snakes i just have enough give some positivity about this game god damnit!!!

are Metal Gear Solid games even good?

I rember loving how they re-used haunting echoes of The best is yet to come in MGS4 during the segment where Snake returns to Shadow Moses and the base having been abandoned since. Really cause a giant pang of nostalgia for a nerd who got and played the original MGS when it came out back in 98, and I do believe it was intentional on Kojima's part to use the music to make the long time fans feel and experience the same haunting memories as Old Snake must have felt by revisiting the area of those events. So yeah, really strange that they didn't use the song in Twin Snakes.

I still can't forgive the utter fucking butchering of the sniper wolf's death scene

They should have put this in the legacy collection

Snake 360 no scoping Sniper Wolf during a cutscene haunts me to this day

In my mind, the twin snakes cut scenes are just what's shown in theaters after the story of what went on at shadow moses was adapted to film in universe

I always treat Twin Snakes the same way i treat the Remakes of Resident Evil 3 and 4 "Thank you but i preffer playing the original"

The director of the cinematics Ryuhei Kitamura directed Godzilla Final wars and a cool film called VS.

I enjoy this version. Especially emulated.

I played both on an ancient 13 inch CRT with RF adapter and mono sound, and at that time in my life cutscenes meant "it's time to go get another beer." I didn't even notice most of these differences although I played through them within a couple years of each other. Thanks for the video!

One review on amazon said, the eyes in the twin snakes are so lifeless it takes away from the game. I think this is very true. WIth imagination the Original has more emotions and is overall my go to.

The OG will always be one of my favorite games ever. When I got The Twin Snakes in high school I definitely enjoyed my time with it, and using the new mechanics with a familiar game, especially one that I had played recently before this released, made for a fun bit of trying out new tricks.

I will reiterate what some guy commented on a different video: _Twin Snakes is the Hot Shots 2 parody version of MGS1_ If you think of it in that vein then it has SOME value. If you think of it as an actual remake of MGS1 then it's the biggest piece of s__t ever made.

The animation of water surfaces outside of cut-scenes never looked very good in the MGS2 engine imo. It has the look of way too much bouyancy. As if it was made of jelly or something. Swimming under water as Raiden in MGS2 looked great though.

The twin snakes took my metal gear virginity. I never knew of the series then. It took me years to play the original ps1 game, which I didn’t even know it was a remake of. When I played the original I hated it. But eventually when I became a more skilled player, it grew on me and I love em both equally. That’s my story

MGS1 is what really happened. Twin Snakes is the action movie adaptation of it.

someone at that studio really loved DMC. 16:30 NO YOU! MGR counts whether you like it or not, it's consistent with the series and provides closure to Riden's story arc. and no I don't think it justifies any of the sh17 Snake does in Twin Snakes and I think everything else besides Riden should remain grounded. Riden and Gray Fox were meant to mark the beginning of a new era of weaponry in the MGS universe, that's why they're ridiculous and borderline, they were meant to be incomprehensible to the rest of the universe.

I was lucky enough to experience the original metal gear when it released. I was only 8 years old and I never knew video games could make me feel emotions like that. I remember crying my eyes out during the ending with grey fox. Still my favorite game of all time.

lets not forget that David Hayter Gave up Half his Salary so the original cast could come back and record their lines.