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Metal Planer Restoration 42: Scraping the Clapper Box Cross Slide

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

4 жыл бұрын

Scraping the Clapper Box Cross Slide on my 1890's vintage New Haven Mfg. Co. Metal Planer. I use both power scraping methods with a Biax power scraper as well as true hand scraping techniques with a hand scraper. This project includes scraping both flat surfaces off of a surface plate as well as dovetails using a precision straight edge.
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@assessor1276
@assessor1276 4 жыл бұрын
“The Scraping Channel” - who cares? I am happy to watch whatever you are doing Keith because I always learn something and thoroughly enjoy your work, no matter what it is, as well as your clear, patient, respectful and thorough presentations (and the total absence of annoying music playing in the background).
@karlhrdylicka
@karlhrdylicka 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Frise, Excellent comment .saved me typing it .especially the absence of annoying music. Thanks .
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlhrdylicka Same here. 100% agree.
@ROTTK9
@ROTTK9 4 жыл бұрын
halfway agree, it is a great example of how to and what to expect and his explanations are great also, just to me after watching so many examples it is like watching paint dry. people who are watching this activity for the first time should learn something and that is the reason for the video, education. glad he takes his time to show what he knows and stuff he will learn as time goes on.
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 4 жыл бұрын
@@gojoe36 Sounds pretty normal to me
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 4 жыл бұрын
You only scrape the surfaces you want to be level... (to paraphrase "you only need to floss between the teeth you want to keep")... He's really good at it and this core competency is mandatory for the precision machinist.
@robbomet9495
@robbomet9495 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, I don't think the scraping is boring or overdone. Anyone who is truly interested in machine restoration will appreciate the pains you take to get the precision right. Keep up the good work!
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for saying it for us. Kieth, thanks for the hard work putting these videos together for us to enjoy and learn from!
@mobeeler
@mobeeler 4 жыл бұрын
Just to share what's been shared with me in order to keep proven knowledge of production scraping and techniques alive for future next generations: The old timer that taught me scraping, Peter Kuhn, used powdered paint pigment, orange and black, mixed with 10w spindle oil until it became a stiff paste, much like makeup. He then made a dauber out of felt and would use that to spread the "ink". Black on the plate, orange on the part. If it's too thick, set your spray bottle of WD-40 to the finest mist, hold it far enough away you only get a few drops on the granite, then spread it out thinner. This stuff goes a long way and you can easily control your ink film thickness. Starting out, you can high light your worn areas by spreading it thick, then thin it out as you refine your points. Keith Rucker, thank you for sharing your knowledge on scraping. It's an essential and dying art in the machine tool trade. Keep up the great work. I appreciate it.
@mobeeler
@mobeeler 4 жыл бұрын
To clarify, you would mix this concoction in an old Altoids can or a tin that you got a wallet in some years ago and daub out of the can. Don't try mixing this up right on the surface plate :-) You also want to have two different daubers for the different colors. "Once you figure it out, then you'll know" -Peter Kuhn
@loydsa
@loydsa 3 жыл бұрын
Keith, please keep showing scraping whenever you do it, it's good to see and I learn something each time. Best Regards Sarah
@evanpenny348
@evanpenny348 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vernacular, like: "we're getting back going forward". Lovely.
@thirzapeevey2395
@thirzapeevey2395 4 жыл бұрын
What I've learned from "the scraping channel" is exactly how much patience is necessary to produce precision work. Those who don't have the patience to watch it probably don't have the patience to do it, and will never learn to produce precision work. In fact, they probably aren't producing "work" at all, they are simply sitting there waiting to be entertained. I can tell you that the work I'm doing has improved by orders of magnitude by watching you and several others who do the patient work you do. I'm not doing machine work. It isn't in my budget to have a shop like yours, which is okay. I give all glory to God for those things I can do, and don't covet that which I can't. I do piddle around with carpentry and furniture repair, and I've learned techniques that are helping me get better joints and flatter surfaces. I can't afford to buy new machines, but what I've learned from you and several others has helped me get my elderly woodworking machines running better and truer. I'm tackling projects that would have been above me in the past. All of these are good things. I challenge the complainers to get up off their bean bag, put down the computer, and actually do something themselves.
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 4 жыл бұрын
Keith i love the scraping because Scraping is a big item that needs to be done when rebuilding machine tools. I keep hoping to see someone who has made a video of using Moglice and scraping it. I have watched every one of your scraping videos and sometimes i go back to them for reference. I actually save videos by category and some by contributor. Thanks again and don't let the whiners get to you too much.
@majorphoto
@majorphoto 4 жыл бұрын
very nice, Keith. Keep scraping, I'll keep watching. We know its a part of restoration - and you're good at it
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed Keith! ATB, Robin
@toolman5256
@toolman5256 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are machining/machine rebuilding/ scraping channel and I'm totally happy with that.I miss the train though.I always liked it.
@ericwebster6911
@ericwebster6911 4 жыл бұрын
I'm OK with the scraping. It is a really fascinating process and I'd love to be able to try it someday.
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 4 жыл бұрын
I've really been enjoying this planer restoration. Thanks Keith.
@jordanrelkey
@jordanrelkey 4 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting old machine. I'd never seen one before watching an earlier episode of this series.
@blueridgeburnouts8265
@blueridgeburnouts8265 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy the museum work and the planner and shaper restoration, but this video really solidified my understanding of scraping. It takes a few to really get it.
@steccato
@steccato 4 жыл бұрын
Watching you work on these vintage machines, thoughtfully resuscitating pieces of history, and then putting them to good use is a real pleasure. Thank you.
@arttarsha
@arttarsha 4 жыл бұрын
Candidly I love seeing the processes over and over (scraping) it’s a good way to learn! Keep it up Mr Rucker.
@homeryoung7436
@homeryoung7436 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the tooling for the planer.
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 4 жыл бұрын
This project seems to fight every step of the way. Step by step, we'll get there.
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this one with great interest. I have a small horizontal mill that needs some "tuning" this video will definitely help me understand the process. Thanks Keith!
@douglasmeek9774
@douglasmeek9774 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m retired now am learning this right now..
@iamthetarget52
@iamthetarget52 4 жыл бұрын
I, for one, Welcome our new Scraping Overlords.
@ohboy2118
@ohboy2118 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith. Great video as always. It is very simple for me if I get tired of watching scraping or any other process for that matter I fast forward or stop watching. You never need to apologise for your content or change it. Do what you do and ignore the minority who like to complain. They could after all go out to their workshop and create their own video 😉
@briand01
@briand01 4 жыл бұрын
I dont mind the scraping either. I like all of your videos. Appreciate you putting Videos up for us Thank-you so much Keith. :) Brian P.
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, your patience is incredible. Hang in there. Looking forward to seeing this old monster make chips
@bobrenner7213
@bobrenner7213 4 жыл бұрын
I came to the conclusion that I could NOT be a precision machinist. I am too impatient!
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice Keith I appreciate your hard work
@papatomsgarage7611
@papatomsgarage7611 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, I don't mind if it's scraping, milling, or turning, your videos are always interesting and educational. Keep up the good work!
@kurtdietrich5421
@kurtdietrich5421 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the scraping. Seeing different parts scraped shows us how techniques and methods vary for different parts.
@jerrycoleman2610
@jerrycoleman2610 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, Awesome video, really enjoyed watching, great content, thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
@Tinman97301
@Tinman97301 4 жыл бұрын
I never even knew that scraping was a thing tell you and Abom took that class. I'm really enjoying this series. Thanks for posting all this.
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 4 жыл бұрын
Don't lose heart with the scraping, we don't mind it, at least for those who haven't had the opportunity to take a King scraping class.
@garthbutton699
@garthbutton699 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me look over your shoulder once again,I enjoy watching your content and have gained a lot of knowledge.😎
@hairyfro
@hairyfro 4 жыл бұрын
Watching you scrape is what inspired me to take Richard King's class a few weeks ago!
@ron827
@ron827 4 жыл бұрын
Also love my Jorgensen bar clamps which are good quality, easy to adjust one handed, strong and affordable.
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray 4 жыл бұрын
Patience. Determination. Dedication. Old fashioned my ass, your way is the RIGHT way. :-D
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, Always good to watch scraping... Have a good weekend... Take care Paul,,
@timeckelmann1196
@timeckelmann1196 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! The longer the video the BETTER!!!
@ronnieseagraves3385
@ronnieseagraves3385 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, as I have said before you are a GREAT teacher and instructor. Again, THE BEST ON KZfaq!
@edo8697
@edo8697 4 жыл бұрын
I have learned more about scraping from your channel, and your explanations than any other channel. I really like your approach to knowing when close enough, is good enough- and when to get fussy. You put out a lot of content in all areas of restoration, scraping is a major part you bring to the table- anyone can replace a bearing and call a machine rebuilt with rattle can green. you always do it right.
@pgproductions4432
@pgproductions4432 4 жыл бұрын
good job on the editing, you can clearly see the process step by step. thanks and good work
@Frank-Thoresen
@Frank-Thoresen 4 жыл бұрын
You have taken us on an amazing journey on the restoration of this New Haven planer restoration. It has been a great education and entertainment 👍🏻
@merlin357
@merlin357 4 жыл бұрын
The scraping is interesting to watch!
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 4 жыл бұрын
I voted for the surface grinder.. I'm happy you did that! Great video, Keith!
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed...nice discussion/demonstration...atb
@ellieprice3396
@ellieprice3396 4 жыл бұрын
I find this process absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing with us how it's done.
@dlfabrications
@dlfabrications 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@rickpalechuk4411
@rickpalechuk4411 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this series Keith, big chips will be happening soon :) Thanks for sharing, Cheers
@youmanskids
@youmanskids 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the detailed description of the scraping process, and that 29 min flew by fast!
@carloscordero4204
@carloscordero4204 4 жыл бұрын
Yes another step done one step at a time it 'll get there!! Thanks Keith !
@bobg9873
@bobg9873 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Keith. Especially fun to watch after your Bash demo - reinforced a lot of what you showed.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 4 жыл бұрын
love your videos this planer restoration has been very interesting, but a little bit of scraping goes a long way.
@larsrodbok1285
@larsrodbok1285 4 жыл бұрын
Respectfully disagree. I am tooling-up to scrape, thanks to this channel and all of its scraping content. Lance Baltzley is another good scraper , as is Robrenz.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 4 жыл бұрын
@@larsrodbok1285 no disrespect intended, the people you mention are all true craftsmen in there areas of expertise. i have enjoyed keith's videos for a long time and i will continue to watch and press the like button as i did here i'm sure keith wants to know where his viewers interests lie.
@jankjensen222
@jankjensen222 4 жыл бұрын
Keep your awesome movies coming !! All the Best from Denmark
@kensherwin4544
@kensherwin4544 4 жыл бұрын
A man with a hammer thinks everything is a nail. A man with a Biax thinks everything needs scraped. ....... and he's right!
@cbhirsch
@cbhirsch 4 жыл бұрын
Love all of your content. Always educational and I always learn something!
@AlmostMachining
@AlmostMachining 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Keith! Keep it up. Thank you!
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil 3 жыл бұрын
Hiya Keith
@mickestahl6178
@mickestahl6178 4 жыл бұрын
Super informative as always, keep up the fantastic work you doing..
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Very interesting and much appreciated.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@randallparker8477
@randallparker8477 4 жыл бұрын
On day 5 of "Introduction to Purgatory" they give 3 choices for first trial period. Watching paint dry or sweeping powdery ash or watching someone scraping in a machine surface. LOL Great progress Keith!
@bryanlake3539
@bryanlake3539 4 жыл бұрын
great video keith longer video would be very nice just a thought
@NeverlostatBSgaming
@NeverlostatBSgaming 4 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoy watching the scraping to be completely honest
@marks5603
@marks5603 4 жыл бұрын
If it weren't for scraping there'd be no machining! Carry on!
@bradthayer6782
@bradthayer6782 4 жыл бұрын
I think Keith is losing his enthusiasm for scraping- this planer may be the death of him! Alternatively, this much precision in one location may cause a quantum singularity. Love the patience and persistence; it will rise again and make chips some day soon!
@1ttanker
@1ttanker 4 жыл бұрын
LOL Nice parallels "Quantum Singularity "
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 4 жыл бұрын
All will be right with the world.
@deemstyle
@deemstyle 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you are able to show the gib side scraping in a video. Yes, it's a lot of scraping videos- but the gib is particularly interesting.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 3 жыл бұрын
"gib side"? That is the adjustment. It doesn't require scraping.
@srgilleland
@srgilleland 3 жыл бұрын
You make me want to find something to scrape. I need something new to spend money on. 😂
@justinkleven3964
@justinkleven3964 4 жыл бұрын
I like the scrapping videos!
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 4 жыл бұрын
For scrapping videos you need to go to a junkyard channel.
@chieft3357
@chieft3357 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching every video of this restoration, I may not comment on them all but I'm very interested in your plan and how you are accomplishing this restoration.
@CathyInBlue
@CathyInBlue 4 жыл бұрын
Not the first thing wrong with being "The Scraping Channel".
@halfnelson6115
@halfnelson6115 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist so this is probably a stupid question. I do know that scraping it creates space for the oil to collect. But, why not grind it flat before scraping it? Can someone explain please? Thank you.
@flatblack39
@flatblack39 4 жыл бұрын
It is not as accurate as scraping. Sure surprised me to find this out.
@georgeescaped6035
@georgeescaped6035 4 жыл бұрын
i live in NV but if i was living closer to you i would offer to assist you in ANYTHING you need in the shop just for the knowledge..thanks for the vids
@infoanorexic
@infoanorexic 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the bolt holes that look like they were pulling up at their ends/edges, I guess that can be a regular occurrence on cast that gets the gorilla treatment on a regular basis? The pivot lock down bolt hole on my shaper's clapper box was doing that. I cleaned it off with the surface grinder, and I intend to keep an eye on it, to see if that trend continues. I see signs that the hole has been repaired in the past, which explains why I had to put some relief between the bolt head and thread, and later on open up the slot a little with a Dremel. Whoever repaired it didn't do a very good job of locating the new hole. Since I flipped that part and did a correction grind on the dovetail, now I need to go back to it and make sure I don't have a situation that is similar to what you found.
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi 4 жыл бұрын
So, know you are trying to show all work on all projects. But like to see one finished. Know for you can get burned out working on only one project at a time, and some times, get on hold, due to parts not available or other complications .so you work on another. But still... . Like to see one finished. Started watching when was doing the plainer/matcher, that was a great start to finish type series. Got me hooked! Like the forge kiln got almost done then never used??? No casting????
@catfishgray3696
@catfishgray3696 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, LEY'S GO TO WORK...
@chevy6299
@chevy6299 4 жыл бұрын
Scrap on Kieth!!!
@levitated-pit
@levitated-pit 4 жыл бұрын
title is a new euphemism ...im sure to use it on my girl!
@mdlanor5414
@mdlanor5414 4 жыл бұрын
Your Planer is going to be more accurate than when it left the factory it was manufactured in. I hope you get good use out of it when you’re finished.
@maxsav007
@maxsav007 4 жыл бұрын
Those helicoils 😬
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 4 жыл бұрын
Psst! Typo on the thumbnail caption!
@nilzlima3027
@nilzlima3027 4 жыл бұрын
and just what is wrong with "the scraping channel"?
@billmorris2613
@billmorris2613 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 4 Sep 20.
@safeaegis
@safeaegis 4 жыл бұрын
cool
@Dragehest
@Dragehest 4 жыл бұрын
if you just had a planer you could have planed off those 0.25 and had a beautiful pattern in the metal :)
@gst69man
@gst69man 4 жыл бұрын
Dang!
@thecatsupdog
@thecatsupdog 4 жыл бұрын
Scraping. I fast forwarded in 5 minute chunks then listened to the last 1 minute wrap up. It's fine though. I've got an 3 hours of Steve Summers doing block work to catch up on.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 3 жыл бұрын
and squirel feeding.......
@malsm8892
@malsm8892 4 жыл бұрын
True scrapping is only done by hand try scrapping a bronze bearing in its housing that is 100mm dia or less lapping chilled iron bearings I was an apprentice in the 1960s to 1970s been there done that in England
@aangelbf2
@aangelbf2 4 жыл бұрын
Would you ever use a surface grinder for the first pass?
@brianmitchell305
@brianmitchell305 3 жыл бұрын
Since this is a small part would it be easier (that is save time) to grind on your surface grinder first then just flake? The angle surface is probably the hard part to grind.
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 4 жыл бұрын
HA! I get to make first comment. Woke up too early and bored, glad you're here
@Regenerator_
@Regenerator_ 4 жыл бұрын
Роскошь!
@jackdawg4579
@jackdawg4579 4 жыл бұрын
Keith, I am not quite understanding this process, I would have thought the more you scrapped, the more the two parts will actually come apart in the dovetail area on the assembled machine?
@turningpoint6643
@turningpoint6643 4 жыл бұрын
They will, but all machine tool slides will have some type of adjustable gib in them. As the slide wears normally that gib is then adjusted to keep the clearances correct. Likely he's at most taking a few thou off in total with the scraping, that amount will never be noticed with that adjustable gib.
@gudynielsen8780
@gudynielsen8780 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Keith.. Just wondering what stroke length you have on the Biax for fine and rough?.. And damn you make it look easy and not that time consuming as it really is🤔
@davidhtims
@davidhtims 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever use dykem transfer?
@Digital-Dan
@Digital-Dan 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a machinist. I don't have any machines. So the best description of me is that I'm a troll. I'll watch facing cuts and center taps all day. But if I've seen one scrape, I've seen them all. Before and after would do it for me. If you read this far, you read too far.
@scottvolage1752
@scottvolage1752 4 жыл бұрын
One sept closer to CHIPS.
@alstonofalltrades3142
@alstonofalltrades3142 4 жыл бұрын
Seen you scrape before, x amount of repetitions is needed to comit to my memory. How on earth do you get the diagonal dovetails alligned with each other?
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 4 жыл бұрын
You measure across a pair of pins seated in the dovetails at each end.
@alstonofalltrades3142
@alstonofalltrades3142 4 жыл бұрын
@@nerd1000ify Ahh the guage pins come in for another use. Neat Ty. Next question they are parallel but how do you make sure the angle is at or needs returning to say 60°
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@alstonofalltrades3142 It actually doesn't really matter what the dovetail angle is (within reason) so long as it matches the mating part, so generally you would just scrape one side (ideally the longer of the two) in and then use that as a master for its mating part. If you really needed an exact dovetail angle for some reason you could set a sine plate to that angle on top of your surface plate, bolt your part to to it and sweep a test indicator over the surface of the dovetail to check which way you needed to go.
@johnhunter4972
@johnhunter4972 4 жыл бұрын
Was about to ask why you scrape an item like this, when a careful surface grind would get it to within a few 10000ths. However I take the point about multiple contact points. Seen all your videos and enjoyed them all.
@bettytherussiantortoise2808
@bettytherussiantortoise2808 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Keith do you think that a sawzall would work for a power scraper if you weld the tang of an old blade to a hand scraper?
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer:yes, but not without some skills. Check out Robin Renzetti's instagram and youtube.
@chrisrhodes5464
@chrisrhodes5464 4 жыл бұрын
Would it have been better to run the surface grinder over it ?
@simonaldridge82
@simonaldridge82 4 жыл бұрын
Keith thanks again. Is there a way a novice can remove the wear out of a small 1950s milling machine without a surface plate. say with dti gauges feeler gauges straight edges ect
@turningpoint6643
@turningpoint6643 4 жыл бұрын
No, if you have to ask then it's not a job you should be even considering.
@turningpoint6643
@turningpoint6643 3 жыл бұрын
@chris0tube Simone asked the question because he wanted to know, I gave him an honest answer. And it was worded precisely in that way because I do have just enough knowledge to say what I did. Without those reference surfaces Simon asked about and specifically that surface plate, it's logically a failure just waiting to happen.I never ever give knowingly incorrect information. He also didn't mention having a very accurate machinist level.Those aren't optional reference tools if you want any hope of being successful.And the less you know the more important they are. Yes you can literally start with almost nothing using the 3 plate generation method to produce your own proven reference surfaces and boot strap your way up from there exactly like Whitworth invented in the 1830's to get beyond the technological machine tool level they were then at. I highly doubt 1% of the people making comments here would have the drive, ambition, skills and knowledge to even attempt it. But without either buying or making those basic references as a bare minimum and knowing a lot more than what any video might provide it simply ISN'T going to happen.You can't even verify your straight edges are in fact straight. And without understanding the basics of machine tool geometry you are undoubtedly going to make things even worse. To suggest otherwise like my statement is somehow flawed and incorrect is completely misleading to others. Exactly where did I say I or others couldn't or didn't know enough to do it? No where did I say it can't be done, those points weren't pertinent to his question. Simon asked if the (apparently obvious) wear on a 1950's mill can be removed using dti's, feeler gauges, and straight edges. Simply by asking if it can be done in that way then it's more than obvious he's lacking the basic's of how it could be done. So exactly as I said "if you have to ask it's not a job you should be even considering". Anyone having enough experience to actually do the job wouldn't need to even ask the question he did. I didn't say it was impossible, I kept my answer short and to exactly what he asked about. With known verified straight edges, a huge step up and maybe having something even more helpful like a Kingway alignment tool, machinist level, surface plate and a whole lot of experience then yes it's not impossible at all, it's done every day. But asking if it can be done that way already proves that required experience level is in fact lacking. A simple once through the Connelly book Machine Tool Reconditioning more than proves my response to Simon was and is correct despite what you might happen to think. Making knee jerk assumptions about what anyone happens to know or not know and using a simple one line response to form that judgement is also a large mistake. Go ask Simon's exact same question over on the Practical Machinist Machine Reconditioning forum and there's no doubt you'd get just about the same response as what I gave him as an answer.
@andrepienaar6459
@andrepienaar6459 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Keith, every time you scrape the surfaces, the outer piece gets a little larger and the inner is getting smaller. I realize it is only a thou or so at a time, but how long can these pieces last until they are worn out? Thanks for your interesting videos.
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