I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this kzfaq.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!

Probably the best Ryan’s kzfaq.infoUgkxGZedDTcDfgD7fG_uU4esfx_EgxzlY2_1 Plans on building a shed is hardly ever found. And Ryan takes the mystery out of different types of foundation options, etc. He even shows how to build a shed with different designs. Very comprehensive, covering different roofing materials, siding, etc.

Hey only the price of 3 Martinez speed squares. Not too shabby!! 😂

Im from South Africa and I find your metal roofing rather strange in the sense that it is secured at the valley of the sheeting. We use an ibr profile that has a 3cm wide ridge between the valleys. We secure the sheeting through the ridge rather than the valley which minimizes the potential for leaks even further.

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Anyone that doesn't do this on a day to day basis or the minimum sustain basis, but would still want to use one, should consider renting one. I got lucky with a friend, paid him a case of beer, but there are options.

We bought one after seeing it at the show last year. We used it one one side of a 40x64 and had nothing but problems. We waited 4 weeks for a custom color fastener, they only stock white and galvanized. All of the fastners had paint failure when shooting them in to the point that it look like white polka dots on a black roof. Loading the gun is awkward and slow. I found it hard to consistently hit a purlins on edge because of the poor visibility from the bulky gun. There was very inconsistent compression of the washers. On the one side of the roof we had about nine leaks.. I would not recommend trying in on a roof.

I really like the feel one gets driving screws with a cordless gun. It has to be a very hard sprucwe knot that will prevent a conventional screw from penetrating properly.

Kyle, try the Makita Big Bore compressor. Provided you follow the break-in procedure, it's the quietest oiled compressor I've ever used. I use my Makita with a Bostitch roofing coil nailer and the Bostitch framing nailers and haven't run into issues of lack of air pressure. If you want to see how effective the Fesco gun is, take a caliper and measure the height of the installed fastener. Then measure the installed height of your hand installed fasteners. Watching this video on a big screen TV, the Fesco driven fasteners stood taller than the hand installed fastener. If you have to go back over the Fesco fastener to achieve the correct driven depth, I give the gun an FAIL. IMO there needs to be an industry standard for an exterior collated fastener head, preferably driven like a drywall screw gun not impacted like this gun is doing. The other problem with this fastener is that it's a fine pitch thread instead of a coarse thread. Fine threads into wood don't have the holding power of a coarse thread.

Think it’s a nice option but I would think screwing with the impact is more reliable on making sure you have your fastener set correctly. I definitely don’t put metal roofing on every day but I have done some . I guess I like the impact but I could see how this makes more sense if you wanted . Great video Kyle 👊🏻

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bro we been using Scrails for years we just shoot the scrails out of a framing nail gun 22 degree we love them bro you just shoot the screw in and they hold amazing so cool they finally made a special gun for it for metal sheets

in the speed test you should take into consideration the loading of the gun, that takes longer then taking a bunch of screws from the pouch. nice vid!

Nice touch to over lay two videos to compare the speed. At times, it's hard to step out of the comfort zone and start doing things differently, but it did pay off for me a few times. If they come out with a cordless version, they might get you to switch)

That’s pretty freaking cool. It looks like it still has a little bit of fine tuning to be done until it’s 100%. It would be a hundred times better if it was battery powered. You could haul ass putting on a roof.

I would love to see that type of fastener for collated screw gun

Kyle another point is you do not bring a larger compressor to the job and that would way your choice as well.

Time is money..... great product for a metal roofing company that would use it daily.

Nice video. One part of the cost savings that you left out or forgot about is the time/labor that is involved in the pre-punching of the holes using the awls that you and your crew do. That has to take quite a while and is something that isn't needed with the pneumatic gun. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the screws or the paint chipping. That clearly needs to be improved upon.

It's very hard to beat standard metal screws, driven with a cordless gun. I can't imagine going back to a gun with a hose.

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The roofing you normally show us has you screwing the bottom and Greg fixing the top to get it square - this means you would need 2 guns and 2 air hoses. I guess it really is suited much more to rough and ready jobs like agricultural buildings like you said.

Very impressive how even across he nailed those screws in.

need one of these for drywall

That is pretty nice idea, but any of those "painted" heads fall apart. If the crew likes the idea of using the gun to save their hands and back also 8X faster is pretty decent number it could be a good switch over.

Gotta add in the time and inconvenience of setting up and dragging hoses to the installation for an even comparison. Trip hazards on a roof with hoses strung out are not inconsiderable either. Didn't know about the system though so it was an informative video. Take care. Doug

It look good to me. I would use it. If i would build my own shop. I would buy it speed thing up.

Hey, love the channel, would love to see a toolsday on the Milwaukee 16gauge Brad nailer.

I really think the way to go for stuff like this and shingle roofing guns is a cordless backpack air compressor vs cordless tools.

That is actually really cool, great video like all ways.😄😄🤟🤟🛠🛠

Some of the large roofs I have seen you and your crew on....cannot see you dragging an air hose. Just saying.

Hi Kyle & Co I would like to see a toolsday comparison between the Hikoki and the new Milwaukee framing nailers! Thanks for a great channel.. Anders from Denmark Scandinavia..

this might be nice for liners.

Looking closely at the Scrail itself I believe it is completely coated white on the whole Scrail and that flakey stuff is coming off the Scrail shaft as you are pushing it out at 90 PSI. It is possible that the shaft of the Scrail scraps on the plastic frame that holds the them in the strip, so you are getting that flaking off it. you could spray a bit of WD-40 Silicone on the Strip before you put them in to make them eject easier? I took 3 years of Mechanical Engineering and Design in HS (back in 1969-1972), I had 3 - 55 minute periods of drafting (in a row) and 1 - 55 minute period of theory each day in HS for 2 years in my 2nd and 3rd years (also we had a full 9 periods a day one was lunch, not like these kids today getting 6 to 7 - 40 minute periods a day & having only a subject maybe once every other day. We also had Machine shop and woodworking class plus all the others like Math, English, Spanish, PE & Physic etc, also in my senior year we had 4 -55 minute periods in a row just doing theory.

To get a better idea of the time savings it really needs to include the time taken to load the strips as well as that wasn't very quick and something you would do often with only 30 screws per strip. Whereas you can have a pouch full of screws, also where on your tool belt are you going to keep the strips. If putting in just one strip it is a lot quicker but a lot of the time savings are lost when you add in the time setting up the compressor, moving the hose about, reloading the gun etc. Driver and screws you just pick them up and go. Nice and interesting video and always good to see what tools are out there.

Get your guys together on a job and see how many they each can do in 10 min , it would tell how much it cost labor it cost to put in each fastener . It might be a fun video too. Enjoy the content .

They should make a collated fastener battery powered drill/driver similar to a drywall/decking application. Most people are moving to cordless and who want to drag a hose on a roof that’s 20-30 feet in the air

Great vid. When the screw is shot in it will dimple the metal toward the wood. When you run a screw in it dimples the metal toward the sealing washer making a tighter seal. I always use screws that have a rounded washer between the sealing washer and the screw head. It looked like these were flat which would probably be better since the dimple would be in the opposite direction. Loading the gun would negate any gain in speed. Double the cost, not for me.

What happens if you miss the stud behind the metal? Will it damage the metal?

I would love to know/talk about two things; can plunge cut saws practically almost replace table saws? A review on the DeWalt 54v plunge cut

Thanks for this video! What types of nails are you using? Thanks!

Great information. Thorough. Perhaps the time savings would be greater for an amateur.

First, I love your vids. Well done. Second, can you post a link to the Simpson brackets you use to fasten your columns to the concrete pillars, please.

Are they a ring shank type nail? It’s great to see it with a seal type washer. I guess the thread will maintain a tight fit After the wood drys and shrinks.

I am with others, not practical for exterior with the hose being dragged around, the sheet metal edge would cut your hose before you can realize it when the fails to fire. Would definitely be more practical for interior application of ceiling and wall sheet panels, since the hose will not be dragged around over panel edges and thus eliminating the chance of cutting the hose as you drag it about. Not sure who created or approved the deign of the scrails either, they should have tested it before making them in bulk and find out the head height as is if quite insufficent. Until they improve the design of the gun to be cordless or the scrails to have better area for grabbing to remove, I am going to stick with using the old fashioned more well designed manual screws.

this application bends the wood fibers down. As time passes the fibers will return to the original position and result in "nail pops" whereas a screw applied fasteners pull the wood fibers up and they n never pop

You put your hear plugs in but....you forgot your safety glasses!! :)

looks like it would work good for a crew with missing fingers..

Also it's interesting that I've worked on a barn out up around 1985. The roof-plates are very thick, probably 1.5-2mm. It is fastened with standard 4.8x35 "farmer" screws, which is the standard. Many of the screws are lose, or becoming lose because the holes are stripped. What I've done is , to swap them out with 4.8x50 - which is a killer screw. If you drive 4.8x35 in hard enough it will strip the holes, but 4.8x50 will tear up the washer. How would nails fare if screws fail?

could it be some of the material from the collation

Might be a good time saver for those cheap metal sheds they make at big box stores. But if you're going to put your companies good reputation on the line better to continue doing it the old tried and proven way.

Good idea and could be very fast but let's say in a roof application wont your hose be dragging against the roof edge?

did you take into consideration ,your pre fasten, drill and set-up time for the panels ? factoring in that labor time.

Your air compressor is made for nail guns, not mechanics impacts. The compressor should keep up with the nail gun. The size of the tank should not make a difference, it's the output of the pump on the compressor. Your compressor may not be rated for that nail gun, it may be only for brad nailers or staplers, but I doubt it. It sure is a niche tool, but I agree it is cool! Cheers from Tokyo!

Yes, time is the one true test.

The white stuff might be from the plastic that makes the actual strip holding the nails?

you should always fix roofing thru the ridge, not the valley of the iron. Only direct fixed cladding should be fixed thru the valley

Hey Kyle my name is Trevor and I am a college student majoring in construction management. I love watching your videos and I was wondering how you got into construction and started your own business in the post frame construction industry as I am interested in the same career path?

Maybe on inside/outside VERTICAL jobs it will save a lot of time !!

How are those fasteners in the gun going to hold up against wind with the smaller thread? Love the channel. Keep it up 👍🏻

Cool tool. I think more of that scrail technology is going to show up more and more. I am curious to how much flow (CFM) is needed for that gun. Pressure isn’t everything and I’m sure you may have to run more than 90 psi if you have a long hose or multiple hoses. You are going to have to step up to the gas wheel barrel compressors on the job site if several guys are using these guns. Could the white be bits of plastic?

What about matching fasteners with bulk hand screwed fasteners. Will you need to break loose scrails to do the trim and ridge so they match?

Good review

Could the paint flakes be coming off the shaft of the tail/screw as it goes through the tin?

Is that a Milwaukee stick nailer I spy in the background?

It is not faster if you have to go over the work again to check for full depth. I have noticed this problem with gas nailers and electrical pin nailers also, it drives me mad !

Hi, It is not worth using that nailer if you have to take an impact driver up as well to make sure they are all tight. When you are on a roof you want to be carrying as little gear as possible and I did not like the small head. Also having to pull a compressor hose around could cause problems and the hose is likely to get hung up or snag on any obstacles.

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Are you gonna put out any more videos from the hunting cabin? You haven't put one out in a while and I was just wondering. Love your videos man, keep up the great work, on the videos and the work you do!

Just as a matter of interest, will it fire into a rib rather than the pan of the sheet and can it punch the screw/nails through 1mm top-hat steel purlin? I'd love to see someone come up with a laser alignment system for nail guns and screw guns for outside use. I have a 3 axis line laser that is excellent inside but being visual is lacking outside. I don't know if you've done a video on them but when I first got it I found there was very little info on what you can do with them, but I'm forever finding new uses for it.

But how many years of fluctuations is that washer good for before it cracks

Hey would you happen to have a code for Truewerk? I’m needing some new winter work gear

It is excruciating listening to that external hex head get stripped by the seemingly wrong sized hex bit 5:55. The logic seems loose around 16:20, the fasteners are demonstratively faster to install, but not as proficient as the crew. A more intriguing feature of a nail-screw, whether it be Scrail, UFO, etc, is the much greater tensile strength and utility provided in repairing the fastened material, particularly in applications where nails are traditionally used i.e. siding, decking/flooring, sheathing, etc.. Beyond repairing, to a lesser degree, there seems to be a potential value in having less damage the materials fastened when removing the material, if done carefully. Consider the percentage of situations that the owners end up removing the product well before the end of the material lifecycle due to changes in tastes and preferences, effectively making these more overall economical and environmentally friendly. There seems to be a savings/breakeven for builders and craftsmen for this "advancement" to fasteners, hopefully more manufacturers will make this kind of fastener so there could be greater competition on price among them. Hope to see more content on this for other applications.

Is that a Milwaukee cordless framing nailer in the background on that stack of boxes???

cool

What happens when you miss does it Drive the whole screw through the metal

Having watched you make straight lines with a awl, can you hit those hole for nice straight lines?

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What happened to the hunting cabin, is it done?

are the screws in nailer steel or aluminum great info

How about an episode with hearing protection, even though I don’t se you use it a lot 😁😁

Nice tool - btw, was there any conclusion to the Hunting Cabin series? Final finishing shots?

HOORAH, it’s “TOOLSDAY” & we have another great vid from Kyle...& RR Buildings👍🏻 Thank you so much for showing us interesting tools. So, the Scrails are shot in & then able to be removed w/ impact or screw gun/drill....& we saw this at 6:04 My question is (sorry for being a pain w/ all these questions😉) this Kyle..... Do you think over time, & being out in the elements, that removing these scrails would become more difficult at all; & do they have their own scrail bit for impacts/drills to remove easier etc...? Also, do you see any “oil canning” at all in the metal? Would be really cool if you & Greg would do a small “mock-up” of a roof (exact same way you guys do a roof on your post frame jobs, just smaller, maybe a 8’x16’ or whatever is easy etc...) using these scrails & the Fasco gun for us; than leave it outside around workshop (out of the way of course) for a year or so(or till spring maybe)m& check on it from time to time & see how it’s held up (especially w/ winter coming). Not sure if have the time, but would be a super cool experiment to see over time & the durability of these fasteners & Fasco Scrail Gun😁. After using this Scrail Gun, think it’s faster than using the Collated Screw gun that we’ve seen you guys use to finish off a roof or subfloor (the Simpson Quik Drive Collated Screw Guns, I believe)? Appreciate What You Guys’ Do for Us✌🏼

15:18 shed 😳 so what your saying is it’s not the size of your building it’s how you use it 😉

Great idea but that gun needs improvement . It's big and bulky for one thing and you'll be spending a lot of time refilling the gun . So much for pre-drilling your holes to get a nice strait line . You always try to get away from air driven tools . Don't think that I'd like dragging a heavy gun along with a hose on a barn roof . You're gonna need a gas powered generator to feed the compressor or a gas powered compressor as well unless you have electric power available .

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The test was too small. It was very in-depth review for sure, but you will have to use it on an actual large roof to get a better impression.

Are you still using this today?

Do the do coloured fasteners to match the roof colours you use?

No washer is leak proof at all I like hidden fastener's vs exposed fastener's exposed fastener's have to be changed after they dry rot that's why they make it so you can take it out with a drill exposed fastener's suck

how does it do on the ribs?

Why are you fixing your Metalroof in the valley of it?? Is there on other Way in the U.S? In Germany we use small Metal caps, to put them on Top of Highest Point of the Metal roof and screw through. There ist nearly no chance to not Get it waterproof.. i think like this Its just a matter of time

how's the house going Kyle is it finished yet......

For someone like you who builds QUALITY buildings and your company name means so much that type of attachment and fastener would be a gamble. With wood density changing from each piece of framing lumber or for that matter the same piece of framing lumber and hitting a knot or hard spot in the framing. Framing guns themselfs can be problematic but then when a neoprene washer is also involved seems it would just be too many possible problems , then if you have to go and put a screw gun to each fastener to get the same torque throughout the roof , why would you even want to use the gun. Not for me!

Why don't you just use a standing seam roof and then you know you will all ways be good. I know it is more expensive but it is much better.

Why did you not put the fasteners in the ribs instead of the flat part of the metal

When you boys finally grow up learn to put metal on metal 😂 that thing couldn't drive that through a metal stud 😂 that thing would sure work nice on standing seam but the head profile nice video

30 round clip? Nobody needs 30 rounds.