The boss looked at the First $$ amount and stopped there, he did not look deeper. That is bosses for you, don't fix thill it brakes.

Money wasn't the reason for its failure, it was purely political. It's easy to quickly point to President Reagan since he ultimately dissolved the Metric Board, but it was actually Frank Mankiewicz and Lyn Nofziger. Frank Mankiewicz was technical luddite who was oddly proud of being ignorant of science, claiming credit for destroying metrification efforts in the United States. He successfully got Lyn Mofziger, an extreme conservative, to convince Reagan to dissolve the board. Lyn Mofziger appeared to believe that metrification was synonymous with anti-religious tyranny. Now we're only 1 of 3 countries on the entire planet that don't use metric. Well, not entirely. Ironically, the NIST's official U.S. weights and measures is converted from metric.

@@olepigeon Oh man, good to know about this facts! Thanks for sharing that

@@rfly-fpv the only country not using metric. The other two are converting to metric now.

How does the saying go again? The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is now.

Myamar started to converting to metric, Liberia is preparing to convert to metric

@@karn6356 We'll all hold our breath.

When I wake up in the morning and I weigh the days upcoming decisions, I always say to myself "I wonder what Myanmar would do?"

To be clear, there were 3 countries not metric, that never meant there were 3 countries using imperial. Myanmar was not imperial. They used their own units (before now starting to convert to metric).

@@daedalron cool. I never knew that. Even worse 🤣

it's intuitive because they are used to it. but if they use the metric, the metric would be intuitive.

Yep, and my yard is a lot bigger than 3 feet

Imperial is the best, it explored and discovered the world, it created the worlds largest economy, won two world wars, created aviation, sent men to Moon and Mars. All metric did was start an argument.

@@hillbillysceptic1982 NASA turned to metric in 1990!

Let's say you want to build an aquarium: nothing fancy, just a rectangular box. You have your measurements for all three sides, and with metric, you know how much water it contains, and how heavy it is right away. Sure you can do that with imperial, but a fair bit of calculations, requiring conversion numbers, would be quite necessary.

Star Wars. Metric Forces just doesn't have the same evil ring to it.

@@TheNakedWombat Good on ya. 😂 👍

@@TheNakedWombat Got to give you right there.🤣🤣🤣

if you only had an imperial ruler it would be easier to use imperial measurements than converting to metric then back again

Not in its current form, but imagine if it was invented as base 10 instead like metric but with just another starting point. E.g. 1 inch -> 10inch -> 1 foot etc. Sure it would still be its own thing but not as hard to use as now and there might not have been any need to invent the metric system.

Actually not. Going to be the devils advocate here even if I am from Norway where we use metric. So, many does not understand the difference between base 10 numerals and metric. Metric is using the meter as a definition for length, and from that units for volume (liter) and weight (gram) (using water) are derived. It is not correct to say that base 10 numerals, that actually are used all over the world, are metric. Following your logic you could say that in USA they have metric currency as there are 100 cents in a dollar, that is not correct, as the way to describe it would be that USA use base 10 numerals like the rest of the world, hence their currency follows the laws of base 10 numerals. Percentage is not metric, it means part of 100 and comes from base 10 numerals and was around a long long time before the french invented metric units.

@@OrjanB Correct Metric doesn't include anything that use power of 10 as conversion multiplier but that is the idea of calling things "metric" if they use the idea of the metric system, not necessarily having anything to do with the unit of meter itself. Anyway it makes sense to have units scale and relate to each other in the same base as the base of numbers we use. For computers it's base-2 for us it's base-10

@@OrjanB Excellent. A lot of griping about having to use fractions rather than decimals.

What's this "100%" crap ? You mean 144 per gross.

@@infoverflow5559 exactly. For a beautiful and timeless example of the powers of ten, see this short film by Charles & Ray Eames: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zsx7dcunqdDZqWQ.html

I am American and imperial is a foreign language to me, all my life.

Still prefer millimetres over fractions of an inch.

In Australia ae well and frustrated because all our screws are still sold in imperial lengths

I guess you have never had a pint of beer.

@@JimmeShelter US or UK pint? UK pints are larger. I have frequently bought a 'half-liter', which is slightly more than the US pint, and slightly less than the UK pint. Why do you ask?

What, you don't say "Usain Bolt is the holder of 10.000mm sprint world record"? :p

Too far gone now lol

You are addicted to repeating decimals now........3.333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

@@billshiff2060 LOL... nope. If it's centimeters then 3.3 will do, you just have to have a tad of common sense.

@@ricardoaraoz717 You are not building any thing for me lol "will do" WON'T DO lol

@@billshiff2060 so how many thou is 1/3" then?

That's what I've noticed too. It's so cute and funny and overcomplicated way of calculating. Americans: when you reach too many zeros just cut off some and switch to the bigger unit. As simple as that.

@@bogna8877 and some seems to think that using the different prefixes takes more mental effort. like if you are measuring a table and wrote it like 0.001 km or 1000 mm or 100 cm or 1 meter its all the same, its unnecessary to use some of the prefixes for every day life but doesnt take more than 2 seconds to understand it. for example there was a comment in other video that was something like..... "why use 45.7 cm when you can write 457 mm and drop the point" and i think some americans think that every prefix is like a different unit and dont realize that is all the same thing.

@@nicolasinvernizzi6140 As far as I'm aware, cm isn't a "preferred" unit in the SI system. Americans have had difficulty dealing with prefixes like kilo, micro, mega etc. ever since Greek was dropped from their school syllabus.

I guess it's because the most americans who switched to metric have a job where sub-inch measurement is relevant, i.e. carpenter or engineer. So in these jobs mm is the mainly used unit. For someone who grew up with the metric system it's normal and intuitive to use km, m, cm and mm dependent to the case and size.

​@@nicolasinvernizzi6140 I read some study that it's easier to convert to metric from imperial by introducing only one unit. In Australia (country that switched from imperial) they use millimeter rules instead of centimeter rules just to get rid of decimal fractions in daily work in many fields. They just work with big numbers but they are all integers.

I often use "6 inchs" instead of 150 mm and yes, I converted in the early 70's. And being an "Old Fart" is measured the same way in imperial or metric 😁

Right on! Breaking inches into absurd fractions or converting yards into a mile that has four random digits doesn't make sense. I think any who try metric still try to convert back and forth which is a mistake and then they become frustrated before they really understand how simple working in metric is.

Usually, everyday lengths are measured in meters and centimeters. I guess, coming from imperial, Americans have that intuitive desire to use the "smallest" scale (so mm), but m and cm are more "standard", practically speaking. Technically, m is the de facto standard. And even more technically, there is no smallest scale. In steps of 1/1000th, below milli meters is micro meters, nano meters, pico meters, etc... Having said all that, it doesn't matter too much, as you know, since they are all easily converted by introduction or removal of 0s. It's only a matter of what scale is appropriate for the given task.

@@Kujo174 Indeed - in my experience as a furniture maker, plans are drawn up in "mill", i.e. 3m 14cm 8mm is simply written 3148mm.

@@trrexxx An American mile is 2.3 km long and is set that way by law, dating form the 1820s and the treade of the meter, by an act of Congress, this includes all standard American Measures. How is 2.3km random when converted to feet it looks that way 2280 feet to the mile or 2.3km.

@@Delgen1951 A mile is about 1.6 km

Same, and i love it

Only the ignorant would be impressed by a system that has only 2 factors baked in to EVERY level.

In Australia,they don't use the centimeter, it is forbidden. They only use units with a factor of 1000 to prevent confusion, so only microns, millimeters, meters, and kilometers.

You’re welcome!!

It's funny, I'm an electrician in the UK and, even though everything is in metric, when I ask for a 5 foot light fighting the wholesaler knows exactly what I want. 1,500mm. Oddly most of the screws I buy are still in imperial.

@@christopherhume8896 That's because if you're using imperial, you're screwed.

In woodworking especially you are required to divide spaces into multiple segments. Metric is base 10 and has only TWO factors 2 & 5. The foot based on 12 is a composite number and is the smallest number with the factors (2, 3, 4, 6), and is the smallest to include as factors all four numbers (1 to 4). So you can split a foot evenly into 2,3,4,6 or 12 parts, in metric only 2,5 or 10 parts. That is why 12 inches in the foot is superior to metric 10 ESPECIALLY if you are building on the fly on location. You don't want those bloody repeating decimals every time you try to divide something into more than 2 or 5 parts . Similarly the yard is evenly divisible by 2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 etc .

@@billshiff2060 so when woodworking you would usually concern yourself with a 0.1 millimeter error? LOL Nobody ever taught you how to round a number? Is it too much for your brain?

excepte for time which is NOT Metric any were in the world, even France which tried to change time gave up on it after ten years of of trying to make it work, look up a photo of a metric timepiece, and you will see why.

@@Delgen1951 time cant be metric since the metric system only describes distances, areas (distance squared) and volumes (distance qubed). Everything else is part of the SI-units (which metric is a Part of) and seconds, hours, etc. are SI-units.

the decimeter is used. not as frequent as some of the other units but not uncommon. Mainly in speach or when pricing stuff like a carpet. The Hectogram is used in the same way, pricing mainly.

@@mattiasakerblom3426 Yes, I wasn't serious about nnever using it... it was just a way of saying it is less used. People usually jump from meters to centimeters, spiking the decimeter.

@@IronFreee Actually, US won't have to move the comma, they'll have to move the dot. They use a dot for decimal separator, unlike many european countries who use a comma ;)

@@daedalron Yes, Europe use dots for large numbers to help read them. Like: 10.000.000 for 10000000

@@IronFreee 1 cubic dm is also the same as a liter. I don't know why we say liter instead of cubic decimeter though... edit: actually it's kinda obvious... 1 liter is easier to say than 1 cubic dm

Ironically usually just called Zollstock ( Inchstick)

The same can be said for imperial, a tall man is 6 ft, a short woman is 5 ft, a full step is about 1 yard, useful estimations with out any tools. The beauty of metric is in converting scales, mm cm M Km.

And that's not even the best thing about the metric system. A box with the inner measurement (10cm)³ can hold 1 liter of water... 1 liter of water weights 1 kilogram (under "normal" temperatures).

1 liter of water weights 1 kilogram at 4°C

@@traog Yes, and this is the most important part: if you have to switch between scales you just have to move the comma in your number. You don't have to multiply by 3 and 12, it's not intuitive. Also using the fractions. IMHO counting with imperial numbers would be much more easier if you simply use decimal fractions.

I find it so much easier for sure!

NOT exact... that my friend is the POINT.

@@billshiff2060 the point is that Metric people will mortise at 5 mm so their work will be 100% exact. You guys don’t cut at 4,5/16th and we don’t cut at 5.3 mm or 4.7, unless we need to, in which case there is absolutely no problem to do so if you have the right tools and the right reason to.

@@giuliobernacchia1848 4.5/16 = 9/32 we would definitely cut that but no one ever is 100% exact.

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For sure and that’s when CM and M come into play. But, that would have opened up a whole other can of worms. Lol

We have been tussling with this in the UK for decades. Workplaces are mostly metric (maybe entirely) but those of my age group are somewhete in between. Educated in imperial for rhe first few years of our schooling, then in metric for the rest. The only place I use imperial is woodworking - mostly becausr of American books and plans. In fact I use both systems. A component might end up as 14 3/4" x 5/8" x 22 mm. I think its time to commit!. Meanwhile certain politicians are trying to reintroduce imperial measurements in post brexit Britain because "Murica!" no wait....

I have that same tape measure and it really helps when doing cabinets on the 32mm system

"Nobody says "the room is 5464mm long"." Not quite true, architects will say that...

@@SquishyFletcher not true, architecture is mostly done in cm ;)

@@KlaasDeSmedt I was taught to work in mm...because each mm can matter when it comes to things like wall thickness. If you don't account for the 9mm plasterboard (at each end) and just work from the studs, then your measurements are going to be off by enough to matter at the end of a long hallway.

When you think in metres, then think of how many steps a distance is: one metre is about one step of an adult male. Engineers prefer to use millimetres, even for things as long as a railway vehicle (even though manufacturing precision for an entire vehicle only recently came below the cm range and a carbody will change length in the mm range due to thermal expansion or elastic compression/stretching).

​@@SquishyFletcher No we won't say that, we will use mm on a floor plan and technical drawing, but we will use meters on site, with a client and so on, we will say this room is going to be 3 by 4,3 meteres, that's also why you don't use square millimeters, you use square meters. You don't visualize a space in mm, you do it in mts, same as you don't visualize the distance between two places in mm or mts, you do it in kilometers.

Actually 10 mm, 100 mm, 200 mm 500 mm and so forth.

Yep, the majority of aMuricans prefer to measure in NRA scale anyway ;o)

American school kids learn metric. 9mm at a time. I'll see myself out...

I usually switch to cm when above 9mm and m when over 1000mm

This argument is literally the same as: one foot is the same length as someone's foot, or the *average* foot. You're generalizing standard measurements to things of a variable size. It's stupid.

Glad you found it helpful

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video 👍

I just say "Hey Google, what's (whatever i want to know)" I have the google hub on the desk in my workshop.

The whole "Visualise in imperial" is bogus. You visualise it as "Yay big" and then attach a dimension to it. You are trying to "fix" the wrong problem and that will always cause issues. If you don't know what dimension label to attach to what you are visualising go get a tape measure (METRIC!!!!) and learn. Thats what you did when you started learning the Imperial system.

@@Agnemonsyour silly, plumbers visualize in American by estimating how long it is to the meter. How many 20 ft sections of pipe, pvc comes in 20 ft sections, will it take. F metric 100 ft , 29 m, plumbing math blows away metric and imperial, will make you cry 😭 8 years to become a master plumber 🪠 what are you measuring picture frames., Who needs to change?

from an aussie, so true. n thanks for coming to join us 😁

Glad you enjoyed it

900 mm or 90 cm or .9 m is closer. And also a little bit smaller... If you need something to fit in a space that is about 3 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet and you make it 1m X 1m X 1m you'd have about an 80% chance of at least one side being too big... If however you make it .9m cubed it would probably fit... Better yet... Measure the bloody hole in mm and make the damn object to fit.

@@bentswoodworking When you buy wood, you still buy it in boardfeet right?

Go for it

accuracy I disagree. It's as accurate but it's much more complicated.

If everyone jumped into a bituminous cauldron, would you jump in too? -Beldar Conehead

​@@billshiff2060You can't be serious.

I love it!

Also- it takes one calorie to heat one gram (milliliter, cubic centimetre) of water in one celcius degree.

@@talalon4098 who is using calorie, better use Joule

@@fryvox3147 that's true, but Joules aren't part of the daily metric system.

..."roughly"..... lol

It takes ROUGHLY one calorie to heat one gram (milliliter, cubic centimeter) of water one celsius degree.

You prefixes are off by one digit. Milli- is 1/1000th, centi- is 1/100th. 1/10th is deci-. The prefixes are based on the latin words for 1000, 100 and 10, as well. For that matter, 10x and 100x are deka- and hecto- respectively (i.e. a dekameter is 10 meters, a hectoliter is 100 liters; these are rarely actually used). Liter is merely a synonym for dm^3 kept for historical reasons, it is *not* a base unit for liquids (or a base unit at all). In fact, *there is no base unit for liquids*. *All* volumes are measured in meters, just like areas and lengths, including volumes of liquids. Just in 3 dimensions instead of one or two. Byte is not an SI unit, there is no SI unit for data.

@@Llortnerof I see that. Was typing in a rush. My apologies and thanks for the correction. I've corrected the typo

Glad you enjoyed it 👍

Yes, this is a pain in the neck to work out - particulatly if you want thirds. But there is another way. Use a pair of dividers and a sector. No measurements needed.

You obviously didn't learn much machining. Metric is crap for machinists. Great for mechanics wrenches. I do both and imperial is better for machining and metrology. .001" is perfect for most everything .0001" for fine work is just right. The resolution of the metric system is clumsy and impractical, forcing machinists to count by 5's or 2's or some crap in between. .1mm is too big .01mm is too small and .001mm is way too small. The use of commas is idiotic, I'm sure they did that just to be "different", very french. Not to mention that thread chasing dials are near impossible on metric lathes, which are standard in imperial lathes, because metric threads are not whole fractions of the master lead screw. .00039 There are other problems too. In Australia,they don't use the centimeter, it is forbidden. They only use units with a factor of 1000 to prevent confusion, so only microns, millimeters, meters, and kilometers.

@@billshiff2060 No, I don't do much machining, unlike my brother and friends. You're problem with metric is that you don't use it, your systems are set up not to use it. Everyone I speak to in industry (building and mechanical- including engineers) prefers metric. I am well aware of the use of division of thousands, we grew up with it (well, I'm old enough not to have, but still prefer metric by a country mile!😁

@@silknfeathers I have a full compliment of metric tool and measuring instruments. I work metric stuff regularly including today. What is ridiculously comical is that I can plainly see that some anal metric bone head has converted some previous drawing from imperial to metric with the attendant loss of accuracy only to have me convert it back to imperial and restore the original intent. I see 9.5mm and I know it is a sloppy conversion from .375" etc. Dicks gotta be dicks I guess. Imperial units evolved over eons directly from the actual work being done and those units are ideal for their applications. The metric "system" was pulled directly out of some frogs bung hole and FOISTED on everyone regardless of the suitability of the scale. The inch/foot/yard was created BY humans working with them FOR humans working with them. Metric is entirely arbitrary with no consideration for actually working in it. For every supposed "advantage" the metric system presents , there is at least an equal advantage in the imperial system. Likewise for Disadvantages. In reality 1 micron has NO meaning since no one can reasonably deliver it.

When I'm discussing measurements with a colleague we almost always use mm without actually saying the "millimetre/s" part on the end E.g twenty two fifty eight by three oh six. If not using mm then we would state the unit E.g eighteen sixty lineal meters, Three fifty micron film build.

Technical not true, most trades in Australia especially building, quote in mm's like a sheet of plasterboard will always be advertised as 2400 x 1200 x 10mm because that is what you will accurately buy then if you want to cut that in 1350 x 950 , saying to someone to cut 1.35m x 950cm is confusing - plus your measuring tape has mm, cm and m and to the mm is more accurate :)

@@wowwipeout71 Yeah, but i was refering to eyeballing something. Say you looking a tree, you'll say "This tree is about 5 meters tall"

Bony> carpenters do all the time. Also if you count precision, "2.5 meters" could be 2.486 meters. Something you definitely don't say is "2.5 zero zero" meters. If you work in millimeters all day it's not really do that weird.

@@wowwipeout71 1350mm x 950mm ≠ 1.35m x 950cm... 1.35m x 95cm would be correct. But your point is still correct. Measurement is normally given in mm.

Cabinetry is what really does it for me.

Lol happy accident

Same!

Suggestion: Use meters for longer, ex. 1,5m or 150cm length instead of 1500 mm

Try to measure your bodyparts or common objects like arm, finger, washing mashine, your car, etc and even if you wont remember the exact numbers, you will get in the correct ballpark.

When you're new to the metric system and you're having trouble visualizing longer lengths you could use what you know. You know what one foot looks like and you know what five foot looks like. One foot is just over 30 cm or 300 millimeter (30.48 cm to be precise). So one meter (or 1000 millimeter) is just over three foot, (=91.44 cm) and 1.5 meter (or 1500 millimeter) is just under 5 foot (152.4 cm). It isn't accurate but it will give you an impression. If you want to be accurate use a tape meassure.

example from real American company orders high-class parts for appliances from an English company - all measurements are given in inches and the whole brothel - accuracy class is 0.01 English speakers change inch measures according to their valid table of measures 1 English inch - 25.39mm 1 inch overseas idiots (no matter which side) 25,401 batch of things made - cost approximately £ 1.2 million sent overseas - it turns out that it does not fit .. there are differences of up to 3-4 millimeters ... the company is almost bankrupt ... since then there has been a rule - measurements are given in SI or let them fuck bananas on the tree straighten ...

same here in south america, like for example i am 1 meter 76 cm tall. we would never say 1760 mm. all measures are expressed on the biggest posible unit within the context.

It's ultimately all the same anyway. The base unit is the meter. The prefixes all just define what multiples or fractions you use, but you're technically still working with meters. Meanwhile, Imperial and US custom actually have to convert between different units. You could actually just go and work in kilo-inches and milli-inches if you wanted to, although few people would understand what you're doing.

Depends on the jargon, really. Mechanics, metalworkers find mm in their drawings and use it while working. They still may talk in meters when getting the bar stock from the shelf. Woodworkers use cm. Builders usually work in m or cm. Surveying is done in m AFAIK.

@@Llortnerof " work in kilo-inches and milli-inches if you wanted to, although few people would understand what you're doing." Dunno, the mil is pretty common in metalworkin, AFAIK. a mil: A thousandth of an inch for an American mechanic. a millimeter for a British mechanic a milliliter for a chemist...

Even on your metric plans? My assumption was that construction plans, for instance, say only millimeters. Do they not, or do you just use a conversion in your head when you see the naked number on the plans?

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Glad you enjoyed it

Where did you grow up? Seems odd they would switch.

@@chrisshannonmoeller781 probably Canada we switched in the 70s im in the same boat got taught imperial till grade four or five then got switched over to metric!

Possibly Australia... I was taught British imperial measures in primary school: miles, Feet, inches, stones (I weigh in at 18 stone) pounds, ounces, acres and (as a farmer's son) bags per acre. Then in Secondary school the teachers introduced us to these new measurements... I find I can use either... Just please don't mix the two... 4 meters of 4x2 will get you 3 feet of 100 X 50p.a.r. between the eyes!

Most do

You can deduce it from his defensiveness: it has been made a nationalistic identifier to stick to Imperial, so "patriotic" conservatives will be triggered by any use of, not to mention positive mention, of metric.

@@Daneelro This is because every time you read through one of this commits pages you find "Stupid Americans" type of commits and this does not help if you want Americans to convert. Also If asked to a European "why do you care?" I don't get a response.

@@Delgen1951 Again, why do you even bother to _read through_ these comments pages, why do you _subject yourself_ to that? No one forces you to, clearly, you have some emotional reason to do so. In addition, I must admit I am also questioning your perception of offensiveness. To see what I mean, here is an example. Once I saw a YT video with a clip of a US talk show host being a guest on the show of a German one. In the comments, people discussed that both are very tall but very similar in height, and wondered which one is taller. I found the height of both, but the first in inches and the other in centimetres, so it couldn't be settled because the inch measurement could be anything from 1 cm smaller to 1 cm taller. I posted my findings in a comment, expressing my frustration at failing to settle the issue by jokingly calling Imperial "Barbarian". The discussion on heights lingered on until a new commenter came who never bothered with the original issue of which TV host is taller & took massive offence to the "Barbarian" jest and started a flame war. He wouldn't calm down even when other US commenters tried to explain the matter to him, and only stopped when YT apparently banned him (I don't think for _this_ comment thread). Would you make a comment about a well-known backwardness of some country/region on some issue (be it cashless payment limitations in Germany, the use of toilet paper in the West instead of water from an Asian perspective, or separate hot/cold-water taps in the UK), you'll get self-depreciating humour or something like that. Regarding your question, why Europeans care about Americans not converting, the video was actually quite fair in acknowledging the main reason: the internet is global & English-dominated, yet we find too many US-based sources (including news sites and "influencers" with actual aspiration to reach a global audience) that won't give quantities in metric. If you want a personal response, myself, I also care about the political aspect, since the movement that stopped & turned back the adoption of metric in public (completely ignored in the video) is basically the same that brought the US and the world the likes of Bush & Trump. Back in the actual paper newspaper era, many US news & magazines were already printing both measures (among those I read, for example the National Geographic), but were forced to stop this practice about two decades ago by political campaigns (what's now called "cancel culture" has been practised by such people for ages).

@@Delgen1951 Conservatards are so triggerred all the time kek

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So relatable 🤣

All is well until you cut three times and it is still too short for you.

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Yes I am finding metric easier with the cnc for design

Lol. Exactly!

No its not. 18mm plywood is rarely 18mm exactly. Its closer to 19 most of the time.

The thing that always gets me is the simple 3/4" ply Vs 18mm ply. One is close and one is correct. It only takes a few 3/4" dividers to make an error big enough to ruin a project.

Interestingly enough neither 3/4" or 18mm is actually 3/4" or 18mm. 3/4" plywood in the states is almost always milled at 23/32" (18.25mm) and stamped and/or sold accordingly. 1/2" is 15/32", 5/8 is 19/32, etc. Most of the time due to variances in milling operations, where said plywood is manufactured and shipped from, and varying densities and qualities of the species used to make plywood, it is rarely exactly 23/32" (or the appropriate near equivalent) as advertised either. 18mm plywood imported to the US is not typically 18mm either, but somewhere around 17.3mm to 17.7mm. And as I found out recently after a purchase, 18mm phenolic ply is well over 3/4", closer to 20mm. In my experience most of the time these small variances do not matter. But when trying to do intricate joinery or when those small variances compound, it makes an enormous difference and can really be frustrating. Although I am one of those "KZfaqrs", I grew up in the lumber industry and spend half my adult life buying and selling the stuff. It can be quite the headache.

@@3dmazter maybe in the USA, but here in Europe it is 18.00 mm. Regards from a cabinetmaker

In South Africa is the same, all dwawings for construction or metal fabrication are in mm, take a wile to get that wen i arraive is South Africa, in 89, were in Europe everything is in cm.

@@tonyjordao2595 Atleast here in Finland all technical drawings are in mm but in real life we still use cm and meter too

You could also argue its a sunken cost fallacy. For anyone starting off from scratch its a no brainer to start getting all tools and trinkets in metric. But if everything you already have spent alot of money on is already in imperial you will have a harder time to switch cause of money already spent and the big initial investments needed to do so again for metric items. An easier way might be to slowly replace old items that need replacing or new purshases with metric items or one that have both measurements on the same item (like rulers have). Like slowly getting off an addiction ;)

You must have a terrible time cutting a pizza for 4. or 3 or 6

That is true, but that would have been a whole other can of worms to open in that short video. LOL

You can always convert that to centimeters or meters.100m = 1cm; 100 cm = 1m; 1000m = 1km. The strength of the metric system is that it provides a proper way of breaking down a centimeter (millimeters). An inch does not have a little sister.

Ahhh stop stop stop. The basic unit is Meter 1 Meter = 10 Dezimeter 1 Dezimeter = 10 entimeter 1 Zentimeter = 10 Millimeter Only upscaling is 1000 Meter = 1 Kilometer Next step ist square and its simple Metric factor is 10^2 =100 1m^2 = 100 Squaredezimeter 1dm^2 = 100 Squarezentimeter 1 cm^2 = 100 Squaremillimeter

I measure and calculate in centimeters. I.e. 402mm is 40.2 cm. Simplifies my thinking, anyhow.

It is, but still very easy to convert to larger units, even though we never say 2450mm, we still know right away what he is talking about. That’s part of the beauty of metric.

You're welcome!

Man I really want to find his video now 🤣🤣

All in mm on building plans also removes the risk of lost, or added smudges being interpreted as, decimal signs (. or , depending on where you are)

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Still a place for both for sure.

Sensible gun policy vs mass shootings, Universal health care vs medically induced bankruptcy, Proportional representation vs electoral college, Actual journalism vs Fox "News"........I could go on.

@@peterkotara What a joke your comment is, I do appreciate it.

​@@peterkotara Your comment implies everyone else except US are commies, that is simply idiotic assumption.

@@Yaroslav_Tselovanskyi How so? I can't see how you could arrive at that conclusion. P.s your comment would read better if it were written "Your comment implies all countries except the U.S are communist, that is simply AN idiotic assumption"

Everyone should be right handed too I guess.

A metric measuring tape usually has markers for centimeters, 5 millimeters and millimeters. So if millimeters is too small for your eyes, but 1/8" is good then just use the markers for 5 millimeters. 1/32" is about 0.7 millimeters, so for making furnitures we just use millimeters, which is precise enough. Easily handled on metric tools. Anything more precise that's not historical in the USA? They use metric anyway for easier numbers. Metric scale is defined all the way down to yoctometers. A yoctometer is equivalent to roughly 0.4 sextillionth of an inch. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units#Prefixes Even the length of an inch is defined in metric for about 60 years now: One inch is defined as the length of 2.54 centimeters. You're already using metric and have just put a strange number system on it, so you can keep using the units that you are used to ;)

Thank you

I think it boils down to what your more comfortable with

Now that's an honest man who has had a pint of beer.

Perfect timing!

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Context has a lot to do with whether that is true or false. Like it is harder to do fractions in Metric, which is why most avoid it and instead convert to decimals instead. There's also reasons why you're not going to be using Metric Time in your daily life, along with other examples where Metric hasn't taken over everything. Metric is simpler in multiple ways to Imperial but that doesn't mean it's always simpler and easier to use... Most imperial measurements are based on the way we perceive the world with our physical body and senses. So you can be stuck in the middle of nowhere with no measuring tools other than your body and your senses and still approximate most Imperial measurements. But that won't be as simple if you try to do the same with Metric... How we perceive the world and how living things in general deal with variables and a level of unpredictability lends itself to a less precise way of measuring that has the tolerances to deal with those variables and not need to be constantly re-calibrated. Traditional woodworking, cooking, and other things people can do in their daily lives are examples where this may be the case. The opposite is just also true when we get into things that do work better with precision and that's where the Metric system shines. Both systems just aren't designed the same way and if you use a system in a way it wasn't really designed to be used then it won't perform as well as it will at things it was designed to handle. Sure, things Imperial can be easier and better at can be very few and far between compared to Metric but there's no such thing as a perfect and better at everything system and it can be times to switch to another system when the application calls for it. There can also be overlap, because you can use decimals and base10 in Imperial too. While it's not as either/or as some people may think of it... In the United States, metric units are used almost universally in science, widely in the military, and partially in industry. Just not in the household and daily life...

Yes. its multiplication or division by 10.

@@ZeoCyberG Off course it is all about with which system you grew up! The example I find to demonstrate that the best is the gas consumption of a car. In imperial it is miles / gallon, in metric it is Liter / 100 Km. So you say how far can I get with a certain amount of gas and we say how much gas do I need for the standard distance of 100 Km.

Which gallon? the English or the US gallon? these are different.

I actually find that has not been an issue as I don't use most of my layout tools for measurements. the small ones that I use frequently are usually both metric and imperial.

“Former Marine?” So you were dishonorably discharged? I doubt it. “Once a Marine Always a Marine.” Same for other veterans. Even for an “Army Puke,” I love Jason’s work. He is an amazing craftsman and social media personality. I have told him so in another post and am actually disappointed when he misses a post on Thursdays. (Yeah, my life is that sad I guess that I track this now...) Seriously, I am not trying to attack you. I applaud yours and Jason’s service. We need to drop “former” when we describe our service affiliation. My opinion only, feel free to disagree.

@@chrisshannonmoeller781 What an ass you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@RWWarner3608 been called worse. Don’t like people disparaging themselves when they have served with pride.

Me too for aure