Metric Vs Imperial: What Does a Carpenter Use?

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@daffhead4975 4 жыл бұрын

And the biggest difference between them is that metric system is logical.

@Steelmage99 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Logical and consistent.

@davesmith2233 4 жыл бұрын

That's the biggest problem I have when trying to follow building instructions from the US, they'll tell you do do something like take a 4 foot 2 37/59th inch length and divide it up into 5/32 inch units or something, and I can't understand how anyone can reliably build something using nothing but weird fractional units and quantities that need to be rebased once they get to a certain value, e.g. inches into feet + inches.

@rimmersbryggeri 4 жыл бұрын

@@davesmith2233 Its not that hard to learn actually. Even for me who is from a thurroughly metric country.

@PHeMoX 4 жыл бұрын

@@rimmersbryggeri It may not be hard to learn, however it is still a dumb and completely inefficient system that's very prone to errors.

@rimmersbryggeri 4 жыл бұрын

@@PHeMoX Yes it is becasue it was deviced in a time where prescicin measuring devices werent widely available. So you would measure things with your body and the reference them to eachother rather than measuring every workpiece un woodworking this is sufficient since it's not a precicsion activity in any way that requires better accuracy than you could get like that or by using templates.

@Heylighen 4 жыл бұрын

-Metric system : multiple of 10 -Imperial system : rollercoaster of stupidity.

@alexashton6501 4 жыл бұрын

-Imperial System - measuring with a dream

@bowlchamps37 4 жыл бұрын

Learning the imperial can even improve your math.

@primary2630 4 жыл бұрын

Imperial is a more in-depth system. Saying it's stupid is retarded There's a reason why we still use feet and inches and still use pounds and it's not just because America still uses it. Even if America used metric people would still say, "I'm six feet tall" and not "I'm 182cm tall" edit: having 2 systems is a boon imo

@fasaso 4 жыл бұрын

@@primary2630 "Imperial is a more in-depth system." Wat teh fuk r u talkn about? in teh metric system al valus hng togethur wic maks sense. Wy shud teh "impurial" system b "deapur"?

@justasnowball 4 жыл бұрын

@@primary2630 what is the reason

@topkek5164 4 жыл бұрын

Scott: "This is one metre. Inside this one metre are 1000 millimetres or 100 centimetres. That's it." ... 10 decimetres: "Am I a joke to you?"

@Vengir 3 жыл бұрын

They are there, but nobody actually uses them.

@bernardsulman1506 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vengir Use decimetres to calculate volume. I cubic decimetre = 1 litre.

@Vengir 3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardsulman1506 Yes, but we just call it liters, not cubic decimeters.

@alanmcgowan3457 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vengir No - if you are calculating shipping costs, warehouse shelving/location configurations, packaging requirements etc. Decimetres are normal, everyday units of measure - especially if you use SAP as your ERP.

@Vengir 3 жыл бұрын

@@alanmcgowan3457 Obviously, I cannot be an expert in every field imaginable and I don't know why they would choose that unit over cm or mm. "Nobody" in my comment was a hyperbole.

@TheEvanovitch 4 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, the reason most school or office rulers are 30cm, is because a sheet of a4 paper is 29.7cm, so you can always draw straight lines across an entire piece of paper lengthwise.

@EnnovonSchwerin 3 жыл бұрын

not only that. You can also carry a 30cm ruler in an ringbinder

@sddirt6840 3 жыл бұрын

You can do that with a 12 inch ruler also...

@almostanengineer 3 жыл бұрын

Rulers have always been that size, even before A4 paper, and that's 297 mm because of the way A paper is calculated, for instance A0 is exactly 1.0 m2, and has dimensions that allow the length to be the 1/√2 meaning that we can scale any design to fit any other A paper exactly.

@pak3ton 3 жыл бұрын

@@almostanengineer lie, its because marketing staff discover that if they make the sheet in that dimension they will earn billions :v.

@almostanengineer 3 жыл бұрын

@@pak3ton I don't know if your being serious or not there, the dimensions paper were decided by an international commite and standardised in ISO 216, ISO 217 and ISO 269, nothing to do with marketing, more about efficiency, and ease of use.

@rubenthijs746 3 жыл бұрын

In metric, 1 milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires 1 calorie of energy to heat up by one 1°C, which is 1% of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. Try that in hillbilly or Yankee units...

@justasklimas9572 3 жыл бұрын

Ok but why are you using outdated units like calories in your example?

@rubenthijs746 3 жыл бұрын

@@justasklimas9572 Stttt! It's to make a point, but Americans don't know it isn't a SI unit. But now you see, even non SI metric units are gracefull...

@donaldasayers 3 жыл бұрын

@@rubenthijs746 Yeah but even their pints gallons and barrels are wrong by being smaller. I find it kind of surprising that their 6 inches isn't smaller than ours as well. ;-)

@justasklimas9572 3 жыл бұрын

@@dukethotness Well calories are inferior to joules in every way but still stick around because they came first and people are lazy to switch. Where I live, they are even required on food packaging in addition to joules and most people use them instead of joules for food energy. But really there is no reason to still use them.

@dukethotness 3 жыл бұрын

@@justasklimas9572 Where I am from, Joules are only used in Physics calculations

@alitabattlechicken9732 4 жыл бұрын

I’m an American carpenter and I use metric. I wish, as a country, we would just switch to be honest. Keep up the great work, Scott

@gav2759 4 жыл бұрын

At the risk of promoting an international incident, It seems Americans cling to the 2nd amendment in order to repel any prospect of metrication. It is the very essence of conservatism... I don't know enough about the other two countries still to adopt metrication, Myanmar and Liberia.

@djsalose 4 жыл бұрын

America tried to convert..

@bobsmith-ru7xp 4 жыл бұрын

Standard is the only way to go for carpentry.

@WarriusZ3r0 4 жыл бұрын

@@djsalose America has been converted, like 60 years ago, it's just they don't want to admit it. In 1959, an agreement between the major imperial unit users at the time, i.e. UK, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, was passed. It's known as the International Yard and Pound agreement, stating that a yard is exactly 0.9144 metre long and a pound weights exactly 0.45359237 kg. From that moment, every other units and subunits based on the yard or the pound was in fact in the metric system. With a dreadful conversion rate, but in metric system anyway. It was the first act. The second act happend in 1975, when Congress and Gerald Ford signed the Metric Conversion Act, stating that the metric system was the prefered system for trade and commerce. It would also be the norm in education, science and industry, but you can still use the US customary units for everyday life. And finally, a Metric Board was created in order to coordonate everything and lead the US to the metric system. Very quickly, industry went metric, and it was a blast for them. For instance, before metrication, the Ford Motor Company had about 900 references for its screws because of the different units and subunits. After metrication, they only had around 100 references. Much more simpler. But, Ronald Reagan arrived, and he abolished the board (well done Ronny, well done dumbass ...). The thing is that the myth of the chosen nation for a chosen people is really strong in the american mind, and as they consider themselves as the chosen ones, they consider they are not compelled to use the same mesuring system as the rest of the world. The use of the imperial system is part of their uniqueness. So it's going to take time, a really really really long time to make them understand that they are not THE CHOSEN ONES, they are mere mortals, like the 7.2 billions other people using the metric system in the world.

@chrisfreemesser5707 4 жыл бұрын

@@gav2759 It's a mistake to think we Americans don't use the metric system. Colloquially we use the imperial system for everyday things but business/industry has been using metric a long time. It's been about 40 years since automakers stopped using the imperial system in automotive design, schools teach students metric, the scientific industry uses it exclusively, etc. The building trades still do everything using imperial measurements. Some will say it's because the building trades are the slowest when it comes to adopting new technology, and that may be true to some extent. However, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for them to start using metric...you'd create a situation where some buildings would be imperial and some metric, and material suppliers would need to stock materials in both sizes. IMHO it's not worth the trouble...keep everything consistent and keep using the same system, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of you guys. :)

@gregor-samsa 3 жыл бұрын

Metric and imperial system have one thing in common: They are imcompatible with imperial.

@Cuestrupaster 11 ай бұрын

Underrated comment. ~One of the best comments on KZfaq actually...

@gregor-samsa 11 ай бұрын

@@Cuestrupaster thx. See my others:-)

@stevesanders3992 4 жыл бұрын

I did use feet and inch when I was a kid then we learnt the metric system along with the earth isn't flat lol

@ThecMaster 4 жыл бұрын

Say what. Is it parabolic then?

@primary2630 4 жыл бұрын

Imperial system and the earth "being flat" have nothing to do with one another. That's like saying when you switched to Metric you also stopped believing in a religion.

@Frambusjt 4 жыл бұрын

It's a joke

@Pertinax193A.D. 4 жыл бұрын

@@primary2630 wooooosh

@Intermernet 4 жыл бұрын

@@primary2630 You probably should have stopped believing in a religion a long time before you decided on a measurement system!

@DaDunge 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe in america and Britain you mix them, in Europe no one use imperial.

@matthewq4b 4 жыл бұрын

You use a 24-hour clock, don't you? Guess what you use imperial...

@DaDunge 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewq4b Haha No we don't. Everything non-metric is not automatically imperial. Only the british empire and the americans ever used imperial we all had different systems before the metric system. For an example in Sweden and Finland we had a base unit called tum (thumb), which was slightly longer than an inch. But even back then everyone used the same 24hours 60 minutes 60 seconds despite that, it's an old Babylonian system, where the number 6 was sacred hence why everything is in multiples of 6. Oh and the second was the time of a heartbeat of a sleeping person. Did you seriously think the British invented our version of time?

@matthewq4b 4 жыл бұрын

@@DaDunge Do you think the Brits invented the imperial measurement system all on their own?. And guess what 6 is one of the main divisors of imperial measurements, in fact, Imperial and our calender/time share the same divisors. Did you think this was a coincidence? Guess what it is not. Date and time and the imperial system share the same heritage. And guess what you guys stil in Europe still use Imperial most notable in defining the purity of some metals. 24Karat gold anyone or how about a 1-carat diamond and those are not the only examples either. So ya you lot still use imperial.

@RusselsYTAcc 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewq4b yeah we use it when it makes sense. But imperial for length etc. is just so inefficient

@l.h.9747 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewq4b karat for gold isnt used anymore by professionals. And also what does a carat from jewelery have to do with the imperial system ? A carat is simply the weight of a sead from a tree i dont know the name in english.

@Draugo 4 жыл бұрын

As a Finn I was really confused when you said Finish Carpentry TV while speaking about imperials.

@DontScareTheFish 3 жыл бұрын

Probably an American channel with someone who calls themselves Finnish because 5 generations ago their ancestors moved to America.

@NightwishArena 3 жыл бұрын

Probably he meant "finish carpentry", not "Finnish"?

@TheAllMightyGodofCod 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, I was wondering if I heard "Finnish" or "Finished"

@wesrobinson7366 4 жыл бұрын

I love this, having studied science in college with metric gave it up as I went on with my career. Now my shop is all metric, I mean who has time to divide fractions all day?

@chillaxo9863 4 жыл бұрын

UK: invents Imperial US: copies UK: switches some stuff to metric US: surprised Pikachu face

@Robert-cu9bm 4 жыл бұрын

King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers Metric was designed by the French, it's a hard pill for the UK to take.

@allangibson8494 4 жыл бұрын

UK: invents Imperial US: copies the units but changes the definitions. UK: realises that they can't agree with anyone how long an inch is - redefines it in metric (25.38mm changed to 25.4mm exactly) (Europe had several hundred definitions of an inch, foot and yard as well (with a foot having between 10 and 17 inches)). Finally gives up and goes fully metric so everyone knows what you are talking about. US: Imperial is better - runs spacecraft into a planet.

@2adamast 4 жыл бұрын

UK: Invent metric US: Follows some of UK with its customary FR: Metric kicks in UK: Invents imperial US: More customary UK-US: Go for common inch UK-US: Sort of switch to metric or not

@rhys6cats 3 жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm no it's a mix of all really the big European countries including France UK and Germany basically invented it

@Robert-cu9bm 3 жыл бұрын

@@rhys6cats Look up the history of metric, it was the French. "And was keen to involve other countries in its development. Great Britain IGNORED invitations to co-operate, " en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system

@Helli__ 4 жыл бұрын

Beer is measured in "Maß" (1 liter) ALWAYS! PERIOD! 😁🍻Greetings from Bavaria!

@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын

Nah a good beer has 0.33l or 0.5l. Greetings from Lower Saxony.

@Helli__ 4 жыл бұрын

@@Knallteute 0.5l is bav. "a Hoibe", germ. "eine halbe", literally in english "a half". The base is 1 liter or "a Maß". 0.33 and 0.5 are just divisions of it. In Bavaria there's not such a weird thing as 0.33, because it is not worth the effort😁. But some breweries make it for the "Preißn". 😉

@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын

@@Helli__ Moin ich bin ein Saupreiß und Stolz.

@alexveldhuis6004 4 жыл бұрын

Then you have not been to the UK.

@jk9554 4 жыл бұрын

@@Knallteute Trotzdem gilt: komm wieder, wenn du ein ganzes Bier schaffst :p

@mingnz1 4 жыл бұрын

NZ Chinese here, now a days in China we use Metric most of times, however, we have our own "imperial System". Chinese inch or 寸（Cun）is about 3.33cm, Chinese foot or 尺(meaning one ruler long）is 33.33cm or 10 Chinese Inch. For house area, we use square meters like in NZ, however for farmlands, we still use Chinese imperial, which is called 亩(mu), 1 mu is about 666 square meters, just like in NZ still use arces. For weight, we use 斤（jin） which is about 500 gram， or 两（liang) which is about 50 gram.

@Andersl201 4 жыл бұрын

Metric, there saved you 6 minutes.

@reeepingk 4 жыл бұрын

And... you're wrong. Houses and housing materials are ALL imperial measurement based.

@Bobo_Banjo 4 жыл бұрын

@@reeepingk no

@antonb9459 4 жыл бұрын

@@reeepingk Yes, everywjere in the whole world. And where they aren't they live in tents and iglous

@reeepingk 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bobo_Banjo You've obviously never been a carpenter or even visited the lumber section of your local construction supply.

@Bobo_Banjo 4 жыл бұрын

@@reeepingk i am glazier when i was in school to become glazier i had friends and even some people in my class that were studying to become carpenter so i think i know a fair share and i have never seen those supplies in imperial

@thegoodfight365 3 жыл бұрын

I'm born and raised in NYC and since grade school I've been convinced that the metric system was far simpler than the imperial system here in the divided states of zombieland. Thanks 👍🏾

@scottwpilgrim 3 жыл бұрын

It's easier to math out in metric, but building something is so much easier to measure in imperial. Both systems are great in their own ways.

@dylon537 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottwpilgrim In no way is imperial easier to build with I find. Metric is better in every way. Who would want to use, say "5/8th" of an inch instead of "16mm"? Why even bother writing in fractions? Smaller = more accurate. Plus it's a breeze when working with volume as well. ML, L, HL all convert into each other, makes building cabinets or pouring concrete. Even the US military uses it. That says a lot.

Жыл бұрын

@@dylon537 Nah, the Pentagon would surely have used Imperial if they had found a way to force the rest of NATO (and their various other allies) to use it too.

@rufixorg 4 жыл бұрын

Another great episode. I use metric system (because I live in Europe). Metric system is very simple - no feet, inch or yard. All drawings are in millimeters. Worked in UK and they use metric as well, but in some cases - imperial. And I think metric system is more precise.

@1pcfred 4 жыл бұрын

Precision has nothing to do with the system of measurements used. A thousandth of an inch is two hundredths of a millimeter all day long. Neither is more precise than the other is.

@steveknight878 3 жыл бұрын

Neither is more precise. Precision depends on what you're using to measure with. Most tape measures that I use either go down to 1mm, or to 64ths of an inch. Which is considerably smaller than a millimetre (so more precise and potentially more accurate). Of course, you could put divisions that are smaller than a millimetre onto a ruler - but it very rarely happens. Most imperial rulers have half, quarter and eighth inches, many have 16ths, 32nds is not uncommon and some have 64ths. The advantage of these is that you get many more non-prime divisors with these measurements.

@MCSTNDTCAFAG 3 жыл бұрын

You use metric system because you live in THE WORLD!

@davenoble1207 2 жыл бұрын

@@steveknight878 Thank goodness someone understands stuff. Thankyou.

@bami2 4 жыл бұрын

2:07 you forgot the decimeter, 10 of those go in a meter.

@phillipstai7204 4 жыл бұрын

Decimeter is a nearly perfect measurable unit. At almost exactly 4 inches it's super manageable and not only is it easy to translate to and from it easily solves the division of a meter problem that people fond of the Imperial system don't like about going from meter to centimeter. In the end it's all about what you're used to. In my personal shop I have been trying to move to more and more metric because that's what every tool I use to fix both my Subaru and Honda is. I hate having to buy 2 of everything.

@okdoomer620 4 жыл бұрын

Not only that... one cubic meter water weighs exactly 1 ton which is 1000 kilo gram... Water boils at 100, freezes at zero and so on

@ThecMaster 4 жыл бұрын

@@phillipstai7204 also. 1 decimeter cubed is 1 liter

@bowlchamps37 4 жыл бұрын

@@okdoomer620 But only at sea level and a certain pressure.

@bowlchamps37 4 жыл бұрын

@Memento Mori Decimeter is hardly used. I have not really heard it that often in 50 years of woodworking. It´s 10cm, period. Or 50cm, but not 5 decimeters.

@TheTaxxor 3 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, in Germany the common name that 99% of people use for a 2 meter folding ruler is "Zollstock" which translates to "inch stick" even though most of them don't even have a scale for inches anymore and even if they do, nobody is using it. But inches are still used in some cases, like for TV or rims sizes and some pipe diameters. I think that's mostly due to marketing(55" TV sounds better than a 139.7cm TV) and dpi(dots per inch) being the standard unit for display panels.

@nossnahr Жыл бұрын

Same in Sweden about the zollstock haha. We call it "tumstock" and directly translated it would be "inch log" even though they only show metric.

@Michael19830106 5 ай бұрын

No, Gliedermaßstab.

@ricoblaser7231 4 жыл бұрын

we have here in Switzerland, in some areas since 1801 the metric system and the ruler in the school were always 30 cm (300 mm) long. The reason is the paper size. A4 paper is 210x297 mm. You don't need a longer scale to draw straight stitches or measure anything.

Жыл бұрын

"always" You mean back in 1801? What time frame is your "always"? Keep in mind that the A-line of paper sizes was devised in the early 20th, the german standard is from 1922.

@theamazingtypo 4 жыл бұрын

Here in the UK we use which ever is nearest on the tape measure. 40" by 1230mm!

@pjgppjgp 4 жыл бұрын

Shit, I do that all the time to meassure most accurately

@martinmcgowan89 4 жыл бұрын

best part when someone says take a eighth off, is that an eighth or 1/8 of an inch?

@XxBlueSkiesx 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I do!

@tedwarden1608 4 жыл бұрын

I recently brought myself a centimetre tape back and front. Best thing I ever did. Ply comes in imperial plaster boards metric does my head in.

@rrkmac635 4 жыл бұрын

easiest way to solve that issue is to buy a metric only tape, that way you have no confusion haha hate getting any size in imperial my old journeyman used to do that to me because he knew I fucking hated getting a size like 52 & 13/16ths.

@alanlang9119 3 жыл бұрын

Great channel Scott, I'm 43 and live in the UK, when I was a kid I would go to work with my father at the weekends and on school holidays. At school we used metric, but when on-site with my father and the other tradesmen, they would give me measurements in imperial. So had to get used to both.

@perrytheplatypus5068 4 жыл бұрын

4:20 with that ruler you brought a long forgotten memory of mine back. When I was in 2nd grade and I had such a ruler and just didn't knew what these other numbers meant. Poor German me.

@bluecrafter_ 3 жыл бұрын

Metrisch is halt einfacher. Auch bei Angaben in Drehmoment ist metrisch besser jedesmal wenn ich ft-pounds höre denke ich mir so wtf 2ft-lb=2,71nm Hä?

@andreassmed2255 3 жыл бұрын

Huehuheuheheh... 420

@otaviomaionese 3 жыл бұрын

In Brazil we also have a mixture but more tilted towards metric. We measure roads with km, car speeds with km/h. All wood are in metric as it is the case for most stuff around. Buuuut, weirdly, steel profiles, tubues/hoses, some screws heads and threads are imperial. And we have exactly the same type of mixed measurement tools (I own a few measuring tapes exactly as the one you showed, as well as one caliper rule with both systems). I feel like the imperial will soon (maybe one or two decades) vanish from tubes/hoses, but I don't see signs of it being abandoned in screws and steel profiles.

@reallyniceguy8784 4 жыл бұрын

If you have ever counted money then you officially use the metric system. Doesn’t get any easier. Debate over.

@VitorMadeira 4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@bighands69 4 жыл бұрын

No.

@EcoMouseChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Metric Time... check Metric Calendar... and mate

@VitorMadeira 4 жыл бұрын

@@EcoMouseChannel as for time, blame the Earth's orbit. (although the metre is based on TIME!) As for the calendar, actually there was a metric one! But RELIGION did manage to destroy it... :( From 2 minutes : 08 seconds on: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLB9ZambsJfelqs.html

@woodworkerroyer8497 4 жыл бұрын

@@VitorMadeira I dont blame the Earth's orbit, I blame the dude that divided it into 365.25, that into 24, that into 60, that into 60, then finally stumbled upon 10.... that is called a mathematician, not religion. By the way, the shortest google search I've ever done shows that the Gregorian calendar actually SOLVED a problem for the world since the old Julian calendar was "out of sync with the seasons."

@getsomegloves95 4 жыл бұрын

Landscaper in the UK. We kind of use both, Feet and inches for rough measurements up to 6-8ft then switch to metres. CM and MM for anything accurate. Edit: Should of watched the video before commenting, you literally said the same thing lol.

@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын

For landscape & land it gets even worse.... 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, 22 yards in a chain, 10 chains in a furlong, 8 furlongs in a mile.

@bighands69 4 жыл бұрын

+Ragdoll The only reason you are using both is because the government and EU have rammed metric standards down people throats by the force of law. Otherwise you would not be using both and would still be using imperial.

@getsomegloves95 4 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 So your a brexit voter then? Metric is far superior for most tasks anyway...

@AlexKall 4 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 no, metrification process in UK started long before EU existed.

@dongorrie1828 3 жыл бұрын

Should have…

@LordClunk 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the UK, and in my mid 40's. Even though I was brought up on Imperial, I use the metric system as it is easier to use and makes more sense. Especially with weight. 1000 grams in a kilogram, 1000 kilograms in a ton. Nice and simple. None of this 16 drams to an ounce, 16 ounce to a pound, 14 pounds to a stone rubbish. I do use miles in road distances, but its not hard to convert kilometers to miles. There are 1.6 kilometers to 1 mile.

@daverog12 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry that I'm the person to tell you.... But your local fruit seller ripped you off when he told you 100g = 1kg ;)

@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын

@@daverog12 ssst

@Andrea-pd4mx 4 жыл бұрын

@@daverog12 100g = 1hg 1 Hecto (etto in Italiano) 1etto di prosciutto crudo =100g 2 Etti di mortadella= 200g

@cigmorfil4101 4 жыл бұрын

1,000 kg is 1 tonne = 1 metric ton. 1 ton is 20 cwt = approx 1,016 kg

@19Koty96 3 жыл бұрын

As a Czech, we use metric for all construction, but sawmills will still cut in inches. Interestingly, as one inch is 25.4 mm, if you cut at one inch marks, you'll get roughly just over 2 cm, just enough to plane it down to 2cm exactly. Anything above is usually cut in cm however.

@TomLeg 3 жыл бұрын

I'm Canadian and do some woodwork as a hobby. Recently I was dealing with inch fractions, taking half for symmetry, assigning a portion to one purpose, and the rest to another. Fiddling with all those fractions was irritating. I realized the board began with an exact number of mm, and doing the calculations was easy. So now I'm tending to work in metric.

@OrangeJulius_JMC 3 жыл бұрын

I'm American and in school they always taught us both metric and imperial so that we knew how to convert between the two.

@Somethingafw 3 жыл бұрын

@@arcticbeak it is mostly just old steel pipes and fittings that are still measured in inches. Alpex and other pex plumbing is measured in mm. And I think all plastic plumbing is also measured in mm.

@patrickd9551 3 жыл бұрын

@@arcticbeak Because marketeer can confuse the heck out of customers with unusual measurements. If I were to say, this TV is 1m20 you'd understand it immediately, but 48 inches? Not so much, simply because you are not used to it. Sounds impressive, but unless you are selling TV's for a living you have no real grasp for 48 inch versus 54 inch. Same goes for US. A 5.6 liter hemi engine sounds cool, but they have no real grasp about the actual size. Sounds cool though. As for my imperial conversions, I usually let google do the conversions for me ;)

@rorydonaldson2794 4 жыл бұрын

For the sheer fact your a clear, concise, polite and intelligible kiwi I feel the need to sub. Cool to see more fellow kiwis on the yt space

@claudedondelinger9336 3 жыл бұрын

For school we (here in Luxembourg) also had rulers with 30cm (300 mm), and those rulers are still the "norm" for office etc. I think this is because of the DIN norm for paper; a standard notepad (you know, a paper one) or any letter or invoice is in DIN A4, which is 210 x 297 mm. So a 30 cm ruler would be all you need.

@hansberger4939 2 жыл бұрын

For spanking your employees you need at least a 40 cm ruler.

@robertshepherd8354 4 жыл бұрын

Like a friend of mine saying when asked the length he needed he replied "25mm minus 1/16th.'

@Birb_of_Judge 4 жыл бұрын

Some people just want to watch the world burn

@20Macdonald09 4 жыл бұрын

In Scotland we also have a unique unit of measurement called a ‘bawhair’

@ScottBrownCarpentry 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@blairybums 4 жыл бұрын

The family friendly alternative is a bee’s wing

@XxBlueSkiesx 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@michaelcardwell9907 4 жыл бұрын

In wales we have 'dickhair' and for even finer work 'a nats dickhair' 😂

@20Macdonald09 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Cardwell Yeah we’ve got that but it’s a midges bawhair here 🤣

@Fran-fv6pf 4 жыл бұрын

I just love your work and amazing helpful vlogs. Peace and love to ya all the way from Dublin on a dreary day! Good old Scott Brown has turned my frown around with his vid!

@manuf.eng.808 2 жыл бұрын

In the 40 plus years of working in my engineering trade, across a variety of commercial manufacturing industries, words such as centimetre, metre, and to an extent millimetre, are never used. We only need to use a number value and it is always understood that it is millimetres. For example, your bench is 1000 wide, your sheet of plywood is 1202 x 2406, those bolts are 12 x 125, that room is 3420 x 12500, that’s a 3.2 drill bit.

@Mastering3d 4 жыл бұрын

You know what i've been watching you for sometime now and really love what you are doing ,I am so glad that I subbed ,Because you are a really nice guy .

@poochie81 4 жыл бұрын

Potential stalker

@MarcusfotosDe 4 жыл бұрын

I guess the ruler length might have to do with paper sizes like A4 wich ist about 30cm too.

@WaechterDerNacht 4 жыл бұрын

The chamces are quite high. And the paper sizes have to do with the ratio of 1:1^(1/2), root of 2, which is the only format where you can fold it and get the same ratio from one side to the other, and A0 is 1m^2. So you get weir side length but perfect side ratios.

@adam-k 4 жыл бұрын

Probably. Especially that bags are often designed to hold A4 paper, so a 30 cm ruler would fit in it nicely.

@tobyk.4911 3 жыл бұрын

exactly. We also use 30cm long rulers in Germany, and surely this has nothing to do with imperial feet, ... but rather with the fact that the most commonly used paper size in Germany is A4 (about 297×210 mm ... more exactly: a rectangle with area 2^(-4) and ratio of side lengths 2^(1/2) ) ... therefore the ruler length fits well to the long side length of the paper ... and it also makes sense to choose a multiple of 10cm as the length of the ruler, rather than some odd weird number

@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 2 жыл бұрын

But that could just be a way of justifying it instead of what really happened... Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I suspect that 30 cm was just a convenient size for rulers since it is close enough to 12 inches that it allows the company to mark both scales on it and sell it in the metric countries and in the US... In the US, we teach the metric system in school, but on a day to day basis, we don't really use it... I have a stainless steel ruler that is a bit over 16" long that has scales on the front and back -- inches with normal power of 2 fractions, inches with decimal fractions, tenths of an inch, and centimeters... I've had it for over 30 years... I think the tenths was because that computer printouts back then were likely to be 10 characters per inch and it helped with your designing of report layouts... Kind of makes sense since the wide body computer paper back then was around 16" if I remember correctly...

@paulgoulding9933 4 жыл бұрын

Love the videos Scott, keep them coming.

@Sbjweyk 4 жыл бұрын

Metic is so easy 1 meter is 10 decimeters 1 decimeter is 10 centimeters 1 centimeter is 10 millimeters (No one uses decimeter)

@user-uf3hx3ge5b 4 жыл бұрын

Just like imperial

@RenTheMighty 4 жыл бұрын

Wdym ever tried cooking?

@dasMichal 4 жыл бұрын

Except math teacher who want to annoy you

@PGraveDigger1 4 жыл бұрын

@@RenTheMighty Cooking: 1 kilo is 1000 grams. 1 litre of water is 1000 grams. Still seems easier than cups and teaspoons, especially since not every cup and teaspoon are the same size. Not to mention the difference between dry ounces and fluid ounces.

@Sbjweyk 4 жыл бұрын

王宇 then explain it to me because I can’t find a logical pattern. Of course I don’t use it but it would be interesting.

@jlammetje 4 жыл бұрын

I grew up in the Netherlands, and we used to bring a 30 cm ruler to school as well, and it also had inches on the other side! I was always wondering what you would use that mystical other side for, haha.And I believe my measuring tape has cm and inches both as well.

@zebradgr8339 Жыл бұрын

Well one has to translate dick size to inches when asked by the ladies

@pendeyo 4 жыл бұрын

funny how the "Zollstock" u got literally means "inch stick" but uses the metric system.^^

@pastaebasta6255 4 жыл бұрын

Actually it is called in German "wood limbs scale in metric divisions"/"Holzgliedermaßstab in metrischer Teilung". Only "Zollstock" is easyer to use.

@lerk2009 4 жыл бұрын

pendeyo ...bitter imperial guy over here

@user-bl4oq7fd8d 4 жыл бұрын

@@pastaebasta6255 Nobody says Holzgliedermaßstab ("wooden-articular-measuring-stick") though... It might be the offical word but I have never heard anybody actually using it. Inch-stick is the way to go :P

@pastaebasta6255 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-bl4oq7fd8d Ist halt Bürokratendeutsch. 😁 Genauso gut ist auch der einachsige Dreiseitenkipper länglich bekannt als Schubkarre XD

@Jorjioo 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, in Denmark we call it a "tommestok" which is also "inch stick" but they are all in metric.

@grabbin_ 4 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: In Germany they call the foldable 2 meter ruler a "Zollstock" (=Inch stick) even though it's metric... ^^

@blankblank5395 4 жыл бұрын

mEtErMaßsTaB my boy

@mic7395 4 жыл бұрын

Same in sweden

@theloki72 4 жыл бұрын

Der Zoll hat keine Stöcke, nur die Polizei hat welche. Einen Meterstab habe ich allerdings auch.

@TucoBenedicto 4 жыл бұрын

It must be because it's messy to use and inaccurate as hell.

@chiselcheswick5673 3 жыл бұрын

That wasn't that fun... more like just a fact.

@jaimesoad 3 жыл бұрын

In Latin America is widely used the metric system, but whenever someone comes to Panama, people tends to freak out because we use both metric and imperial systems. For length, temperature and volume we use metric but for weight and also volume we use imperial. We also use inches, feet and yards, but has to be a very specific case of use; say some piece of hardware imported from the US or paper.

@ThePomyslodawca 4 жыл бұрын

Measuring tape in Poland is in both meteric and imperial, even though we've never used imperial so it's common in Europe too.

@jarlfenrir 4 жыл бұрын

Guess it's just because it costs almost nothing to print an extra measure. I'm also from Poland, and I've seen a lot of rulers or measuring tapes with inches but never seen anyone actually using them.

@clansman89 4 жыл бұрын

Bollocks

@MrMisterMaster 4 жыл бұрын

TVs and wheels/rims are still in imperial in Europe. I must admit a 140cm TV sounds worse than 55" TV.

@HaasGrotesk 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMisterMaster So you got one of those 1,4 meter TV's? Cool...

@MrMisterMaster 4 жыл бұрын

@@HaasGrotesk Oh yeah! I use it to display pictures of my 0,43 meter car wheels.

@blandandturner 4 жыл бұрын

Great shoutout for the Essential Craftsman!

@KathrynMarr-katgirl 4 жыл бұрын

Heard Scott Brown Carpentry referenced on the modern maker podcast last week, that was pretty trippy.

@NomenNescio99 4 жыл бұрын

Essential craftsman is the gentleman that convinced this computer programmer that working with your hands is really satisfying. Something I'm really grateful for, woodworking and carpentry have been a great addition to my life. After spending a weekend, or just an evening, in my workshop and I've created a physical object instead of computer code it's a totally great feeling and something I've been missing in my life.

@geomax3465 7 ай бұрын

Congrats to you! You said what not anyone said in their videos. You DONT need to do conversions. You just choose a system and then you stick with it through the entire project. Easy. I do woodworking my self. I buy the lumber in inches and foot like everyone else and then... Work over blueprints in Metric system all the way. Very easy. No more fraction BS. 😊

@mrbungle7586 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video Scotty. I work for Bluescope steel and everything we do is in mm. Cheers and I cut a nasty gash once on a finger using an angle grinder, I did a cut, then put the grinder down and while the blade was still spinning, slowing down, I grabbed something next to the grinder and bang, not straight slice thru my finger. Anyway I still have the finger luckily.

@Yaroslav_Tselovanskyi 3 жыл бұрын

Where I'm from no one says they're 185 centimeters, they say "meter 85"

@denjo3131 3 жыл бұрын

Here also (Flanders).

@danielgondringer468 4 жыл бұрын

I'm American and was a carpenter in New Zealand. Metric was easy to learn but feel more comfortable building in Imperial.

@Liggliluff 3 жыл бұрын

That's usually the case; people are more comfortable in using what they're grown up with. So I only use metric, never imperial. The issue is that people who try to defend imperial claim it's easier for _everyone._ Yeah sure; Sweden has been using metric for over 100 years; so almost everything is metric, and only metric. But sure, using a foreign measuring system is totally easier.

@robertsanders7061 Жыл бұрын

My Father was a carpenter , I am as well. Started my first business in 1970. I framed Many many homes and eventually shifted to additions . While framing We carried a 8ft. Folding rule but when I began working for a high end with a remodeling company, where all the carpenters carried a 6ft. Folding rule. Fast forward the tape to today I still carry a 6ft. rule and a 25ft tape. I’ll be 71 years old on June 2nd and still have lots of work ahead.

@ScottBrownCarpentry Жыл бұрын

Cheers Robert and happy birthday

@depedrorobertson4227 4 жыл бұрын

I really love watching you videos and learning a lot.thanks for sharing

@jasonhamlett 4 жыл бұрын

Finish carpentry is where i think about switching to metric the most...

@tdgdbs1 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine the time and expense saved if we all agree to the same system.

@woodworkerroyer8497 4 жыл бұрын

I actually used it in my latest wood carving because I had to scale the drawing up to the first piece I made. Sig figs is WAY better than fraction to decimal conversion!

@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109 4 жыл бұрын

@@tdgdbs1 We all DID agree to the same system, the USA just bailed on the agreement

@maxnovakovics2568 4 жыл бұрын

@@tdgdbs1 measurements are one thing but imagine if company's could agree on bits, fittings, adapters, chargers etc

@nodustechnologies3989 4 жыл бұрын

there are three countries that use the imperial system: - Burma - North Korea - U.S.A. you don't want to be on a list with any of these...

@darkiee69 4 жыл бұрын

Burma use their own system, as does liberia.

@nodustechnologies3989 4 жыл бұрын

@Keith That's considered on the path to the light. The world lets it slide as they have to get on with their special needs neighbor. Officially it's metric and it's not polite to interfere in what people do at home.

@microwaveablejesus84 4 жыл бұрын

And add the UK whilst you're at it, we use a mix of Imperial and Metric just like our Canadian brothers and sisters across the pond!

@nodustechnologies3989 4 жыл бұрын

@@microwaveablejesus84 where it matters they don't. it's only where it skirts the public that concessions are made.

@TheActualSsotyi 4 жыл бұрын

Konnah Sharp I only ever noticed with traffic related stuff in my 8+ years here. Everything else is metric. At work we all use metric. In the shops everybody uses metric. I wouldn't say UK uses mix. It's just in the process of change. And to quote my manager "it's ridiculous how we used to measure ourselves in "rocks". (Stones)

@pieteri.duplessis Жыл бұрын

I think this might me the first time I looked at a video from the land of the Allblacks. It was fun, thank you.

@geoffdean3532 4 жыл бұрын

Reading all the great comments. You have created a saga here Scott, even Ronald Regan and Napoleon get mentions.

@brandono.4945 4 жыл бұрын

I'm American and it's easier to use the metric system. I use to make CNC parts and we used the metric system and I understood it alot more compared the imperial. I am now starting my career in carpentry and using the imperial way, makes it more difficult but, easy if I use the metric system. I usually have to convert it for people which is hard for me since I'm use to the metric system. 🤷‍♂️

@garcjr 3 жыл бұрын

I like using metric for small measurements. Like when you're going smaller than 1/2" or 1/4". When I cut a piece of wood it's much easier for me to visualize taking off a couple of millimeters than cutting off a 1/16" or 1/32". We should drop mills entirely because a lot of people are getting that confused with millimeters.

@keithkruger5841 4 жыл бұрын

Dude your killing me... im on The floor rolling... 1m and crickets..

@joshuasutton2163 4 жыл бұрын

I really wish that my brain was hardwired for the metric system. It just makes so much more sense. But, alas, I think in Imperial. In other news, I recently discovered your channel, and your videos are addicting. You do some amazing work, and inspire me to really take pride in my work, and have good craftsmanship. I was surprised to hear you mention RR Buildings and Essential Craftsman, as those are some of my other favorite channels. Anyways, keep up the good work, and I look forward to learning more from you!

@daltonbest9320 4 жыл бұрын

hmmm

@Haze1434 2 жыл бұрын

UK guy here. I started watching this video because I just had phone call with my grandad, asking how large my workbench needed to be. Being one of those 'younger woodworkers', I said 60cm depth. He was like "huh? you mean 2 feet?" Personally, I prefer Metric because it's just easier to understand and work with (no fractions) and it's more accurate IMO (a mm being smaller than you could reasonably explain using fractions of an inch). But, yes, given that we have older folk using Imperial, and classic things like miles and height in feet and inches, we've ended up with a mix.

@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that in the UK, road distances are measured in miles, the distance to an exit that is fairly close is measured in yards, but the clearances to bridges on that same highway is measured in meters (decimal fraction meters to be precise)... And you are likely to quote your weight in stones and pounds instead of kg... :) 1 mm is 1/25.4 inches... It's not uncommon to see tape measures with 32nds of inches on it for at least the first few inches and 16ths of an inch thereafter... Hacksaw blades are about 1/32nd of an inch, but regular wood saw blades for circular saws might be 1/8" to 1/4" in thickness... When your cut line is that thick, measuring things in 64ths or 32nds of an inch is a bit useless... Measuring to the nearest 16th of an inch is sufficient and for many types of carpentry, even 1/8th on an inch is sufficient (and in some cases overkill)... What is more important is consistency and repeatability... If you are cutting 4 legs for a workbench, it's not going to matter if they are 36" or 36 1/4" as long as they are all the same length... It all boils down to what you are used to... As an engineer and pilot, I can work with metric, US, Imperial, and nautical units of measurement and do the conversions between them when necessary... I have a "gut feeling" for the sizes in the US system though (which is different than the Imperial system in certain values)... Same goes for the nautical measurements... Metric though, I have to convert to get a "gut feeling", other than the obvious things: 2 liters is a soft drink that will last me about a day... 750 ml is a good size for a beer (Foster's, Toohey's)... 1 Imperial (i.e. "proper") pint is the size that a Guinness should be served in at the pub... 500 grams is an acceptable size for a steak... But Newtons and Joules? Nawh, don't have a gut feeling for them... I'll stick with lbf and ft-lbs... I'll also continue to weigh my powder charges for my ammo in grains, not grams...

@jameihobadehre 3 жыл бұрын

I am a carpenter from Germany and i absolutely cannot imagine to work with the imperial system, maybe its because i grew up with metric but it is so weird for me. Btw In Germany we have 3 years of learning to become a carpenter the first year is just school and you don't earn any money the other two years are working in a business and going to school while doing so until you do an theoretical and a small project under supervision for like 6 hours. The last step is to build your own planned project and getting it graded. After the three years you can call yourself a carpenter but you won't be able to open your own business until you go to school again for 1.5 years and getting your "Meister" (master) How does it work in canada or usa

@mementomori5580 3 жыл бұрын

It's the other way around. People only still use the imperial system because they grew up with it. But even withing those, the majority agrees that metric is better and that imperial is weird. It's just that they used it for so long that it is more "natural" to them to still use those units at many occasions. It's simply become a habit.

@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын

Many of my ancestors came to America from Germany and some of them were carpenters, so I’m sure Germans can learn our system as well as anybody else.

@mementomori5580 3 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf Yes, they can learn it. But why would they? Even in the USA, nearly everywhere you will find that the data is given in both in Imperial as well as Metric. So what would be the incentive to start learning Imperial when you can just use Metric?

@michelschuit5895 4 жыл бұрын

I find it anoying that phones here in the Netherlands are in measured in inch

@XA351GT 3 жыл бұрын

When I attended Middle School 9 6-8 grades) from 1974-1977 we were taught the metric system in prep for the US to switch. Once I went to High School 77-81 they never mentioned or taught it to us again. . I actually find metric easier since everything is on 10 for everything from weight to length to temp to volume. where as imperial it all over the place

@baksban74 4 жыл бұрын

First time here, this guy loves you so much.

@AMZZZMA 4 жыл бұрын

Question for Americans: so what will happen when a Short guy and a Tall guy measuring things? do they get different results?

@petmach 4 жыл бұрын

No, imperial units are based on metric units today.

@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын

Why would they be different?

@Ferdyn94 3 жыл бұрын

@@GH-oi2jf i guess cuz of different foot sizes?😂

@ronaldderooij1774 4 жыл бұрын

Only the screen I am watching and TV screens are still sometimes advertised in inches for some strange reason. Oh and car wheels and tyres.

@Robert-cu9bm 4 жыл бұрын

Ronald de Rooij Most modern cars use metric. 245/45 that's metric tyre sizing. .. Much harder to understand than imperial in this instance.

@Sheridantank 4 жыл бұрын

Robert 245/45 is not a tire size. 245/45 17 is correct. 245mm wide / 45% sidewall with ratio 17 inch wheel

@djmhyde 3 жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm yes.... but the diameter of the wheel is always measured in inches, in pretty much any place in the world....

@Zefar77 4 жыл бұрын

Here in Sweden the Imperial measurement system was often put onto the rulers and such when I was a kid. But at some point the industry decided to just ignore it and just have Metric on them. . You can get ones with both but I believe you need to look for them. Metric is just easier to work with.

@Desi-qw9fc 4 жыл бұрын

Zefar77 keeping both measurement systems together is a worse outcome because it slows adoption of the metric system. Australia’s construction industry switched in 2 years because they got rid of all non-metric measurements and standardised in the millimetre. Other industries and counties they tried a more gradual easing-out took decades to complete the transition, or never finished. Sweden probably realised this, especially for teaching kids.

@robinhodgkinson 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Since NZ was once an imperial country like the UK, like Australia, there’s lots of hang over of the old system. But actually being fluent in both is really handy. Imperial provides a convenient way of relating to everyday measurements - it’s a foot wide, it’s a piece of 4 by 2 etc etc. But when it comes to more precise measurements and calculations, it’s no contest. I mean c’mon dealing in fractions has got to be the clumsiest method around - I need to divide 7 11/16” into three pieces. 🤣. Seriously!

@sweetwheatsy 4 жыл бұрын

Isn't one of the reasons for the US' lack of transition that in the 1800's, when the big civilizations were making the change, their former president Thomas Jefferson stated that they would not transfer as "the metric system was too french"?

@camembertdalembert6323 4 жыл бұрын

yes. How to hate an entire nation in a nutshell with stereotypes and clichés. How can a political leader take such major decisions with such irrationnaly where a deep rationnal thinking is necessary ?

@garcjr 3 жыл бұрын

Not really we wanted to go on the metric system back then because we wanted to separate ourselves from the British Imperial units. Thomas Jefferson heard of the French metric system and thought it was, "Just what America needed."

@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын

No. Jefferson was a Francophile. In Jefferson’s time, the US had no reason to change units because we were still trading mostly with Great Britain. The metric system was not ready for adoption by the United States at that time. Europe started switching to metric for two reasons: a multiplicity of conflicting legacy units and Napolean.

@benhainsworth1247 4 жыл бұрын

Tyres are one of the weirdest measured things I've come across MM / % / Inches - 🤯

@woodworkerroyer8497 4 жыл бұрын

That is what we call a committee decision! Happily they left the fraction people out in the snow!

@sparkyenergia 4 жыл бұрын

Even stranger that the wheel width is in inches while the tyre is in mm.

@N1ko0L 4 жыл бұрын

@@sparkyenergia because the stardard were made by people using their system and i think it's pretty selfish to invent something and put standard in a non-standard mesuring system

@kanalnamn 4 жыл бұрын

The upside is that the three numbers stand far apart. You instantly know which one I'm talking about, right? 255 17 45 70 14 185 305 19 35

@Liggliluff 3 жыл бұрын

The tyre code standard is: millimeters then percentage or millimeters then inches or millimeters There's an upper bound for what it can be in percentage and inches; I think it's max 99 inches and then after that it's 100 mm. So basically 1-2 digits are inches, 3+ digits are millimeters. So the standard supports a full mm / mm / mm.

@KingHarry1 10 ай бұрын

I’m an electrician in the US and can relate when I hear people on KZfaq using metric measurements I’ll pull out my phone to convert it to inches 😂 imperial measurements is all I know so dealing with fractions is not hard to me at all, BUT it does sound a hell of a lot quicker not dealing with fractions at all and using only whole numbers

@Colaman112 3 жыл бұрын

In Finland we purely use the metric system, but we still call the 2x4 a "kakkosnelonen". Not sure everyone even knows where the numbers come from, that's just what the plank is called.

@amycyclenut 4 жыл бұрын

metric system rules.... fractions are stupid

@reallyniceguy8784 4 жыл бұрын

Joe T what sort of backward country would have a quarter of a dollar coin?

@reallyniceguy8784 4 жыл бұрын

Be like having a $25 dollar note.

@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын

Joe T Your explanation explains the coins but it doesn't explain why there isn't a $25 note.

@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын

Joe T or for that matter why there isn't a $12 bill. If 100 cents = 1 inch then 12 of those should = 1 foot. Instead you have a $10 note.

@bighands69 4 жыл бұрын

@@DiscoFang Because $25 is not a fraction of anything and 25 cent is a fraction of a dollar. How hard is that to understand.

@DexMaster881 4 жыл бұрын

30cm ruler has nothing to do with foot. Its a minimal necessary measure to satisfy all standard paper sizes used in non technical school.

@Xirpzy 4 жыл бұрын

Ye imagine you had to carry a 1m ruler in a bag. Its also for convinience.

@billelkins994 4 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_2848

@lapincealinge2 3 жыл бұрын

In France the only everyday item we still use the imperial for is a pinte (of beer exclusively). But it's actually 50cL so it's just the name that stuck haha

@paulreeves8251 2 жыл бұрын

Livre can also be used to buy half a kilo, but that seems to be really falling out of fashion. I guess in part because almost everything is weighed and wrapped in advance these days.

@lapincealinge2 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulreeves8251 wow I've never heard this one! In which region?

@paulreeves8251 2 жыл бұрын

@@lapincealinge2 Everywhere in France? Do a search for Anciennes unités de mesure françaises. Or this - Les-poids-et-mesures-sous-l-Ancien-Regime. You'll be surprised. But I'm thankful for the metric system. A barrique to me is 220 litres. In 'old money' that would have been '32 veltes et environ 110 pots bordelais.' To understand that you have to know that a 'pot' is 2 'pintes' and a 'pinte' is just under a litre - so we sort of get to the modern measure of 220 l but it is way more complicated. Let's not get started on 'velte' :-)

@lapincealinge2 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulreeves8251 as you said, anciennes unités de mesures française. I've had to work in almost every region, and made friends from a bit of everywhere, and never heard anyone I know around 30 or younger use this. Then again for older folks or in smaller cities/towns, I guess this could make sense And please, tell me about veltes ❤️

@tool717 4 жыл бұрын

Hi from Canada , Truly enjoy your video and learn lots , thanks for sharing .

@Iceman_zZz 4 жыл бұрын

The way we do it is: everything is measured in millimeters. The table at the beginning, 1000 mills.

@santiagolerin 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, we just use the unit that's more useful for the occasion, but again, they are all meters, just scaled by a factor of ten to the something

@danielstruwe2786 4 жыл бұрын

Don't wanna complain but it actually is "Zollstöcke" for multiple "Zollstock" ;)

@janm7163 4 жыл бұрын

Zoll is the German inch, we call them Zentimeterstock for jokes sometimes

@WAJK2030 4 жыл бұрын

It is Metermaßstab, as Gliedermaßstab (Folding measure)

@janm7163 4 жыл бұрын

@@WAJK2030 Zollstock and Zollstöcke is correct, I've never heard Meterstab before.

@lycrist_kat8116 4 жыл бұрын

The correct word ist Gliedergelenkstabmaß. But it does not come with a pluarl I guess.

@fb100 4 жыл бұрын

@Jan M Nearly everybody in Bavaria (where i live) uses Meterstab. I think this Is just a regional used Term.

@williamfarr8048 3 жыл бұрын

The best is carpets in the UK. They are made on imperial looms, normally 13' wide, but sold in metres. So you would buy a carpet 13' by 4 metres.

@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын

But you could think of that as four meters, which is is an inch and a half wider than 13 feet.

@aurigo_tech 4 жыл бұрын

Regarding height of a person, I would never say I am 185 cm. I say I am one eighty five.

@tjeerdroukens5110 4 жыл бұрын

In The Netherlands its all metric apart of the 2 by 4’s and (what we use most) the 2 by 3 ‘s. And its like that in every European, Asian, African and South-American country

@johannes.f.r. 4 жыл бұрын

Where are you located? We call a 2x3 a 5x7 usually.

@StefAnimation 4 жыл бұрын

In the west of the Netherlands (Randstad) they call wood that is ALS sized (American Lumber Standard) 2 by 4, 2 by 3, 1 (duim) by 3 and so on.. In the east and north however they say 5 by 7, (vief bi zieven) for a 2 by 3.. Cheers

@mrjw6701 4 жыл бұрын

StefAnimation I just read your post with a Dutch accent. I don’t know why but I sounded like the guy from the Grolsch advert.

@patrickkayser 4 жыл бұрын

monitors and tvs are commonly advertised in inches too. A pound of meat means 500g though in my country, which isn't exactly imperial.

@tjeerdroukens5110 4 жыл бұрын

Johannes R south-holland

@alexbarber1468 4 жыл бұрын

Did my apprenticeship in NZ, now working in the states. I can see merit in both systems but I still feel like metric is the best way to go especially since 1mm is twice as accurate as 1/16th 🤷🏼‍♂️

@zackfishle1009 4 жыл бұрын

The cabinet guys just measure to 32nds of an inch.

@philleach6271 4 жыл бұрын

Zack Fishle I’ve seen a set of 10 drill bits , the biggest being 1mm all in .1mm increments. Can you let me know that in imperial please. Sure it was in a toolmakers workshop.

@timcorbett9629 4 жыл бұрын

@@philleach6271 we use thousandths of an inch .001". Same for gaps and clearances, and micrometer measure. In Canada, school all in metric, industry all in imperial. 0.1mm is about 4 thou, .004"

@1pcfred 4 жыл бұрын

@@zackfishle1009 machinists measure to the ten thousandth of an inch, or better.

@christophercrawford2736 4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was pretty cool that he watches finishcarpentry but now I found out he also watches Essential Craftsman... that’s awesome that he watches both of them.

@shearollins8032 3 жыл бұрын

American here, love the videos. Can't say I don't agree with most of the comments. Also agree the metric system is a better method and wish it was implemented in the US. But we do use the metric system for some of the most important thing in the us. Bullets. A lot of bullets are measured in metric and not standard.

@themplar 3 жыл бұрын

True, the schoolshooting body count is done by metric.

@randomisedjacob 4 жыл бұрын

"Yet we still call this a piece of 4x2" nah mate, that's a 2x4. Get it right

@2adamast 4 жыл бұрын

And neither is 2" by 4"

@jimmybean6090 3 жыл бұрын

@@2adamast 4by2😆

@erkful 3 жыл бұрын

Nah it’s a 90x45

@DavePreissl 3 жыл бұрын

@@erkful no its a 38 by 89

@DavePreissl 3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperAdam2468 what were you modeling? Runway of like underwear.

@VitorMadeira 4 жыл бұрын

Et vive la révolution française! I wonder when will the USA use the metric system? The metric system is an heritage from the French Revolution and here in Portugal, we were one of the first countries to adopt it. Thank you. Greetings.

@zackfishle1009 4 жыл бұрын

Seems like most of the science industry uses metric. Most of the auto industry is converted. Aircraft is imperial as is carpentry. Both systems are good.

@simonforget280 4 жыл бұрын

@@zackfishle1009 Depends on country of origin for aircraft (and product line). New aircraft are usually metric but I doubt that Boeing will convert 737 and 747 to metric anytime soon. This being said, I'm pretty sure the newest engines of these planes are metric these days.

@CaptainDangeax 4 жыл бұрын

@@simonforget280 Actually, Boeing is converting to nothing because of bad management. Poor engineers. Poor pilots. Poor passengers. Kill the board and get a new one, we need a plane maker to make us dream, like when the 707 did a barrel roll

@simonforget280 4 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainDangeax Totally agree! Someone needs to break the oligopoly of the commercial aircraft manufacturers. Wait, did Bombardier tried at doing exactly this? Unfortunately, it's not only Boeing and Airbus. It's the whole industry. Establishing and maintaining the required infrastructure to get another manufacturers is so complicated. And I'm not talking about training of crews and maintenance staff!

@garcjr 3 жыл бұрын

We'll only get as far as Canada or the UK.

@yvessioui2716 4 жыл бұрын

Quite a bit similar here in Canada, Quebec province. I was born breathing imperial (1955), learn metric at secondary school, learn a lot of conversion factors in college and how to choose the right formula going with imperial or metric with each situation. Then went to work 2 professions going from one system to the other on the spot, thought only metric with main conversion factors to my students in case of need. And now, retired, I work with both system as I go building something. The most difficult, once upon a time, was to get a measuring tape with both systems on. So, I can measure and mount the framing of a wall in feet/inches and the window installation in centimeters... or the opposite. I follow the wind on this. It doesn't bother me at all. I suggest to learn a perfect use of 'rule of 3' from math and decimal fraction of all fractions of an inch (like 1/8 of an inch is 0,125th of an inch) and more importantly the basic conversion factor between imperial and metric, the easiest to learn and be confident in : 1 inch = 2,540000cm or 25,40000mm. It is in fact that precise as conversion factor comes and easy to remember too. All the remaining is flushed to the calculator using that rule of 3. As carpentry goes, 2,5 is usually enough and easy to get by head.

@SuperSrjones 3 жыл бұрын

I spent years working on aircraft, both European and American / Canadian and became quite used to using both systems, but I draw the line at 31/64ths etc, as that is just plain crazy. But at home if I measure something with my dual tape measure and it comes to a full number in either system, that is what I use. Plus renovating an old building that was made using imperial system has to be kept in mind when using new materials.

@frozenprakash 4 жыл бұрын

First reason why i subscribed is you use Metric system :D

@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын

The metric system: dezi= 10th of a ...centi=100th of a... milli=1000th of a...

@KoxenBols 4 жыл бұрын

Wanna add in that Kilo = 1000, 1 kilo being 1000 grams, and a kilometer being 1000 meters. As well as Kilo is often shortened down to "K", f.ex. as in "4K".

@jarlfenrir 4 жыл бұрын

@@KoxenBols Everyone understand what a kilometer is. But why noone goes a but further and say a "megameter"? Why it must be a 1000 kilometers instead of just megameter?

@xero2715 4 жыл бұрын

@@jarlfenrir I assume because for most purposes, it isn't used, so people don't learn it.

@johnscaramis2515 4 жыл бұрын

@@jarlfenrir People are used to it or simply don't know it. I could also add dekameter (10m) and hectometer (100m) to the discussion. Pefectly fine units, but nobody uses it. Only for land surveying in metric units, are (10m x 10m) and hectare (100m x 100m) are more common. But I guess you'd get strange looks, if you would use square decameters...

@thomas6201 4 жыл бұрын

@@jarlfenrir www.wikiwand.com/en/Orders_of_magnitude_(length) It exists. It just isn't that useful for us in terms of daily life so it's pretty unheard of. After kilometre you get a megametre, then gigametre, terametre etc.

@mrpoopypants9586 4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Well done Scott, now my brain is rolling around in a mess of both systems! I was about 14? when we changed over in Oz, so I still think in both. That's why they make those tape measures in both - confused codgers can look up one or the other and figure out one they can understand! Always keep one handy! Great channel Scott, love your stuff. Keep it coming! Cheers PP

@bighands69 4 жыл бұрын

Metric is a shame of a system. The idea that a base 10 system is better than a base 8 system in the real world is nothing short of crazy.

@sallyrussell6776 4 жыл бұрын

Your shoulder straps and work belt are super cute! Totally made me want to get them but not sure I could pull them off.

@TonyTapay 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just jealous that you all made the leap and we didn't.

@Desi-qw9fc 4 жыл бұрын

Tony Tapay We did it in a very short period of time too. The Aussie construction industry changed over in only two years because they rewrote th standards and gave themselves no choice in the matter, which is the secret. Don’t drag it out. There’s a great Google Talks here in KZfaq where an Aussie construction guy/metrication expert gives a talk about the metrication process that Australia went through, and he tells a story about some of the advantages. Less material waste with metric because of clearer measurements (two dump trucks versus one wheelbarrow for identical houses, he said). The industry took the opportunity to redesign things like building timbers, increasing their standard cross-section so that fewer of them could be used in a wall without sacrificing strength. There are many advantages.

@LucasGuarni 4 жыл бұрын

Here in Brazil (at least in the very south) we basically use just the metric system. The imperial system is used here for the old people to talk about pipes and some other specific situations. Its not hard to see people buying a pipe 3/4 inch or 1/2 inch, its a bit confusing because the stores are working today just with millimeters. Even to order studs we use 5x10 (centimeters) instead of 2x4 (inches). The same for 2x6 (inch) that is 5x15 (centimeter). Approximate, of course. The general people use just millimeters, centimeters, meters, kilometers... and most of us do not understand nothing about inches, foots, yards... as you said, watching youtube channels from USA is always trying to convert everything in mind to metric system, inches are OK, but foots and yards are very weird for us. About the liquids, absolutely just on liters, milliliters. No one here understand gills or fl oz, including myself. And for weight we use grams and kilograms, not pounds or oz. Cheers from South America!

@fredericl6190 Жыл бұрын

There’s only three countries in the world that use officially the imperial system: Liberia, Myanmar, and the USA. When I was about eight years old the teacher began to explain the metric system. It was easy for all the class, except for the teacher. Now when I’m woodworking if it’s a simple frame not that precise I use the imperial one, but if it’s difficult and critical I use the metric system. Like doing staircase. If you have to divide or multiply measurements metric is so much easier.

@mursingbro 4 жыл бұрын

I’m in the USA and I just converted to metric. It made more since to me and I’m able to makes cuts easier. Trying to figure the sum of fractions confused me.

@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 2 жыл бұрын

Just wait... Someone is going to ask you to cut a board 120 2/3 cm long... :) What you're saying though is that the metric system is for those who are "mathematically challenged"... :)

@klaatubaradanikto984 3 жыл бұрын

The key to using metric is, do not convert, just use millimetres

@stevegeraghty 4 жыл бұрын

Work with an auld lad in Ireland, he drives me mad with his 16” centres, can’t get his head around why the boards don’t match up

@TheToolnut 4 жыл бұрын

😁 The imperial system is better suited to carpentry, metric for joinery and cabinet making due to the required higher tolerances. 🇮🇪

@kierandoherty1600 4 жыл бұрын

In ireland Ply is imperial and plasterboard can be imperial or metric or a mixture of both. When you space trusses for example you can spread them at 2 foot centres (to suit plasterboard) but the roof battens have to be cut coz they're metric (4.8 etc). Worked with a guy (in his mid thirties) who was told to joist a foor for ply @300 centres. He did. But ply is 8×4. So he fucked up.

@mattjns 4 жыл бұрын

TheToolnut My god that is just so inherently untrue.

@joshdaly2343 4 жыл бұрын

What's worse is metric guys working at 400mm centres, and then cutting ply to fit

@mattjns 4 жыл бұрын

Josh Daly *450.

@cyberherbalist Жыл бұрын

I grew up using US customary units. I'm fairly good at dealing with fractions of inches. Now I'm in the UK, and lumber is just NOT right. For a start, in the US you can _get_ 2x3 lumber, but it's very hard to find. Everything is 2x4 or 2x6. At B&Q in the UK the most common lumber is 2x3. Stated in millimeters, of course. Finding 2x4 is difficult. But I make little wood projects in my garage, and I rely on metric to make measurements. I find not having to deal with fractions to be a very good thing.