The speed of charging is only important when your charging away from home. I hardly do that so it’s irrelevant to me. I do however really appreciate the range as that makes it possible to go places and return without wasting time at the expensive, sometimes non functional, fast chargers on the motorway etc.

The MG is the obvious winner to me because of its purchase price, I charge at home and it costs on average £1.30 for a 50% charge that’s at 5p per kw which equates to just over 100 miles this suits my needs , I drive the MG5 , it is a fair price to buy. comes with a seven year warranty and is more than good enough in the real world. If I had to pay 40p per kw it would be the equivalent to doing 65ish mpg in an ice vehicle .

I'd take home the MG as it's the only one that's big enough as a decent sized family car

From my 3yrs of EV driving, I agree with the comments voting for range over charging speed. I do 95% home charging, and when I occasionally use a public rapid charger, I’m less fussed how long it takes, just delighted it’s available and actually working.

I'd say the ability to use any fast charger without having to register to their own app or go through hoops only to pay, no matter if you just use different providers or cross borders.

Thanks for this fun comparison, everyone! I LOLd often; guffawing once or twice too. I love that we all have RANGE sort of baked into our "most important" cake, even as charging times begin to creep downwards. My Plug-in Prius gets a whopping 12 miles per charge and takes a couple hours to top up, so ANY of these cars would be a quantum leap for me.

Watching this a second time a few months later, and even though I’m a huge VW fan, I’d prefer the MG overall. At £32k, not sure the Kona is value for money even though slightly more efficient.

Less than a minute in and I know it's going to be good... Tom: don't worry, I'm not going to be involved in the maths. Ginny [shakes head and quietly adds]: ooh, no Brilliant banter has commenced already!

Range is far more important due to 99% of charging done at home over night. It’s a added bonus being able to charge fast while out.

You're only looking at kWh out, charging efficiency isn't 100%. Charging over 50kW means a lot more heat vs charging at slow charger at home. Ignoring this simple, but important factor, means you end up with inaccurate conclusions. You could argue this is real world and counts for long range trips, but most of the driving done by most people isn't on a road trip but

What you're forgetting to mention is those figures quoted about the amount of juice the charger is reporting has been sent to the car, isn't the amount that was actually used. You haven't accounted for the charging losses due to heat from the charging process.

Just ordered a 62 kWh leaf. Had 2 40 kWh leaf's. TBH the extra range would be welcome but at 61 yrs old I will still have to stop around 100 miles or 2hrs for a comfort break. 🤷‍♂️

Excellent work as always! Thanks!! It would be nice to know what the beginning range (GOM) was and what you ended with to see how accurate the calculation is.

Hello electric people; I prefer the ID3 in this comparison for a very good reason; it has a "Ginny inside". Good test (as usual). Thank you electric people.

Definitely charging speeds but the amount of chargers at a site too is important

Range is the gamechanger, who wants to charge at a motorway service station...Once we have 350 miles in the cold and wet and prices are sensible we will all want an electric car, just not compelling yet, Ioniq 5 is close.

MG wins for being the most affordable, one of the biggest barriers to EV adoption is the entry price. Didn't see enough difference in efficiency or charging speed to warrant the extra cost of the other two.

Have you thought about this… You mentioned the amount of extra time it took to charge the Kona but surely taking into consideration it does more miles p/kWh it’s actually the one you’ll spend the least amount of time charging as it will use less battery and require less amount of charge per journey as it uses its charge more efficiently. I love this content!

For me it is the combination of efficiency and charging speed. So of course I am happy with my Tesla M3 LR. I did several long trips with around 1.000 km and I never felt like having my ICE car again instead. But! The first fully electric car I drove (and we still have it for the shorter trips to the city) is a VW e-Up! from 2014. It had a range of up to 160 km in summer and up to 120 km in winter (without motorway) and around 100 km on the motorway in summer, 80 km in winter. Of course driving not more than approximately 110 km/h. But we also did road trips in the early days up to 300 km a stretch and even with two or three charging stops the only lasted between 20-23 minutes from around 10% to 95% on CCS, because the car is so efficient. And this was the amount of time that really did not bother me. Getting out of the car, go for a coffee, maybe the restroom and you’re good to go again. And now, after 90.000 km and nearly 8 years, I still have no problem using the e-Up! for trips up to 150-200 km, knowing, that it will only be interrupted by a 20 min stop, even though I am spoiled by the M3…

Great video with loads of important information, many thanks. Overall i feel range is more important than charging speed for this reason. To get the best value for these cars you really need to be charging at home overnight and the bigger the range the car has the greater the opportunity to charge at home more often, hence cheaper to run.

The charge losses are being ignored so that's a good part of your difference right there. Any winter mode battery heating/cabin preheating would be making the charge in vs charge stored even more different also.

Range is the biggest factor. Like other comments highlight, charging at home is the best option by far. Convenient and much cheaper. I've 20000 km on an ID3 and charging the 58kw battery at home makes a huge difference

As a driver of a 2017 Hyundai Ioniq for 15 months I have used fast chargers on 22 occasions and the total cost of charging has been $210NZ (approx £105). During that time the car has been broken 20,000km, with most of the charging done at home. The longest driving stint I am likely to do is about 2hrs 30mins, which is about the limit of range for the Ioniq, so I feel I need 300km range to avoid range anxiety and to then charge back to 95% in 30 minutes would be ideal. After a 2hr plus drive in local conditions, a break is needed before continuing.

I have bought an ID3 Max Pro Performance, it’s bigger than the Kona inside as the Kona is based on an ICE car. It’s RWD, 204hp, 50/50 weight distribution, has adaptive suspension, matrix led lights, HUD as well as much more and I bought it pre registered for not much more than the price shown here for the Kona. Very good car.

Charging speed wins - we're currently at the point of worrying about range, but the ability to do, say, 10-80% in 20 minutes, or maybe 200miles in 15 minutes will win eventually. Especially if 350kW chargers become more widely available, then range won't matter so much. BTW, I get the diesel comparison argument, but the steady motorway mpg for cars equivalent to those in the test is 55-65, not 45! I've just done 2x 400mile trips in a 1.6 na petrol Zafira B, 5 up and packed with luggage, and got an overall of just on 40mpg!

It would be nice if they put the stats up on the screen but very good review.

One of the better comparisons I have seen. You claim that charging speed is most important, but when you choose a car, range is most important. We should not listen to what you say but what you do. I agree.

Driving style will make a huge difference too, I bet if you swapped the drivers around and repeated the tests you'd get different results. They are all good EVs but the difference in purchase price makes the MG hard to beat. The 6k saved against the Kona buys a lot of electricity!

A shame you didn’t put the number up on the screen when you were calling them out. It makes it easier to visualise the differences. :) I wonder if the WLTP figures don’t include such things as air con etc which maybe the trip computer is also ignoring?

I have recently purchased an ID.3. It was a toss up between the ID.3 and the Kona. I do like the Kona is slightly more efficient and more range, but the ID.3 has a little more space and leg room in the back, which for me is important with kids. I also feel it is a nice looking car, I updated the colour to white and updated the steel wheels to alloy's. Like the presenter said, it looks new and modern without being too over the top.

I love how they all prefer the Kona at the end. Charging fast is great but they all took 25-30 mins, when an Ioniq 5 or Model 3 would probably have taken 10-15 mins to top up 100 miles driven.

U forgot one criteria: who is allowed to pull a trailer? Not only a hitch to carry bicycles! Not the ID3! That’s why I’m waiting for the MG! And 75Kg on the roof rack!

Great video. Just a side note that you will get faster charging speeds if you had driven 200 miles instead of 107 miles and that realistically you would not charge the cars at this high a state of charge. Now try again and drive 200 miles before charging. I challenge you!

Agree with Richard below, also different chargers charge at different rates I’ve found, so therefore the actual charging test is incorrect! You should have all used the same rapid charger? But what a great idea for a video test! Thank guys for all you do!

IMHO, the MG5 has to be the outright winner. With EVs, the minor differences in running costs & charging speeds pale into insignificance when set against the MASSIVE differences in vehicle purchase price. Like it or not, the future of mass market EVs is Chinese.

So that's an interesting outcome. They all are similar (realitively) in real world use. Not a big a spread as you would imagine. Which means it's about range and charging times !

Even if a 300mile range car takes 3-5 mins longer to charge, you don't have to charge as much compared to a 250mile range car. Higher efficiency will also help reduce recharge frequency compared to low-efficiency cars. These should also be taken into account. In any case, for most people who have less than 100 miles daily commute, having to charge on the road is a moot point from a practical standpoint. Overall great informative production video with three likable characters. One of the best I have seen on KZfaq for EVs in general. Look forward to the next video, perhaps covering Ioniq 5.

You’ll have to do the same test in winter conditions. As the Kona Electric no longer has a heat pump. So while Hyundai are not technically lying, when they claim the range has not changed, since they only actually claim for range in summer conditions. Not having the heat pump, will impact in winter range.

The cars could have been more honest about the lecky used as there is a 5-10% loss (probably in heat etc) on the electrons pumped in vs how many made it to the battery.

I'd have to agree with a sweet spot of 250+ real-world range and fast-ish charging. But I live in the states, in Texas, and I regularly drive 100-150 miles in one day, sometimes without having planned ahead to do so.

Charging speeds are highly dependant on how hot/cold the battery is and the SOC when you start charging.

Range then I can charge at home more, overnight which is cheeper and more convenient. 🤔

Nice to see you’re turning up at a charger and it works, not my experience this is my biggest bug bare charging points that are not being maintained, for me it’s not the range for the car it’s having good charging infrastructure around towns city’s and motorways.

I think it should be noted that charging at home (or work) is way, way cheaper. An convenient, since you don't wait at all. Charging at a recharging station is usually the exception (on a longer journey), not that norm.

Guys great review. Tom is correct 250 miles at motorway speed all year is practical. You were a bit mean on the diesel more like 60mpg. My small m/c averages over 95mpg and no traffic jams to speak of. Look forward to more reviews.

Excellent comparison, but of course the cars didn’t really “use” that much energy. The figures to re-charge were taken from the chargers, which doesn’t account for the charger inefficiencies which are probably around the 5-10% mark, which is why the trip computers may have reported a different figure,

I might be wrong so please correct me, if the car has the “Capability” to charge at 100kw, and it's only showing on the pump at 77kw then surely it's the pump that is restricting the charge? My reason for asking, is if there are multiple cars charging at the same time this will reduce the capacity those chargers (site) can put out. It's a bit like the broadband if there is only one person on the broadband and it's rated at 100mbs, 2 people reduces the flow to 50mbs per person

Excellent review as always, but I cannot resist, Tom talking about a, weirdly wide bottom.... Did anyone else think, Wookie Hole?

BTW: The ID3 charges with 100KW. But only if the SOC is less than 30% (Better less) and the battery is not too cold. When the chargingspeed is adjusted to 125KW (end of this year for the 58kWh version) the situation is the same. Best is to arrive at charger around 10%. You get used to it ;-)

For me, head says MG, heart says Kona, and avoid the VW at all costs! Ginny mentioned the lack of quality and judging by the drivers door window seal/trim it's falling to bits already! I'm with Tom regarding range. 250 miles and rapid charging please, mainly because of no ability to charge at home.

I am not sure if it is the case here, but as a owner of an electric car, conversing with people driving conventional cars, they all seem too worried about being able to charge quickly. However I believe one needs a shift in thinking. My car is standing still most of the time, either overnight, or when commuting, visiting family, sight-seeing, ... There will always be a moment I am getting out of the car, letting my car "rest" for a few hours. In that timespan it would be really easy to "top up" the battery. So imho, while fast charging is of course really useful when doing really long distance (e.g. long distance vacation driving), I would prefer a general abundance of charging poles, so every time an EV is parked it can charge. And if each EV is always "plugged in", this _then_ also could work the other way round: as a massive battery allowing to cover fluctuating energy supplies on the general net (V2G - Vehicle to Grid --- we can dream :) :) )

I'm sorry but this comparison is one of your worst. You are trying to compare "in the real world" cars with a buying price range of £10,000 between the MG and the Kona. The three of you are driving along with walkie talkies merrily talking way which hardly sets an example. I suspect, "in the real world" that unless one has money to burn that the MG is actually the winner between these three. To answer your question between range and charging speed, I would say range is more important particularly if one is normally charging at home.

I liked Ginny's comment about the VW's colour as that is the same as our ID. 3+ 1st, which when we ordered ours we only a choice of 3 shades & 1 colour. I loved the colours of the 3 cars I don't understand why so many buy black and grey cars - so dull! I agree that charging speed is a decider.

I run a Mini SE and an Id.3 and basically do all the charging at home. The Mini does the school runs and shopping trips and the VW does the longer journeys, we did take it from Midlands to Cornwall with a recharge in Bristol, which coincided with lunch, then a stop at a supermarket in Cornwall where it got a re-charge. The re-charge stops of around 40 to 45 mins coincided with other events leaving the vehicle re-charged to around 95% - no inconvenience, you just adapt to the EV way.

Kona and that's it! Charging a pound less than the others made me choose it. Also the efficiency.

Range for me. So far all of my journeys can be done from charging at home. Of course with my 2020 Soul faster charging would be nice for when we do a long journey, but then I would prefer to stay at a hotel with over night chargers

Pah, decent range 200 miles plus is all I need. I drive an Ioniq 38kwh and get 170, it's OK but I'd like just a little more. As for charging speed, if that's a worry to you I'd say it's your life you need to change not your car. I love a slow charge speed, it makes me slow down and relax and stop rushing around like a petrol head.

My question would be, out of all these cars, do all of them have thermal management on the battery? The mk2 leaf I run as a daily driver does not and I see thermal limitations on the charging times after two or three rapid sessions? Great content by the way! I like the real world testing in a very scientific manner! Honestly!

Cracking video - answering the real world questions that matter! We don't need 600 bhp and 0-60 in 2 sec. I also don't want a 400 mile journey to take 6 hours.

I run a Kia eniro 3, 64kw as a taxi driver doing over 230miles per day. I often don’t need to charge up during the day and can make it home to charge on my wall charger. I would prefer slightly more range, for those days when I get a couple of Heathrow or Gatwick jobs in a day. Plus the rapid charging would be good at the 100kw speeds. The issue I have is finding one of those chargers (even though I’m only 20mins from gridserve Braintree). But really if I could have a car with a real winter range of 300miles I think I’d be 90% of the time just charging at home, it’d only be those odd days when I’d need to rapid charge. I was at gridserve last Friday and saw toddington and spoke to him about the upgrading of the electric Highway chargers (as the M11 birchanger services needs 4 or 6 fast chargers that consistently work, plus the south moms M25 services definitely needs an upgrade as that’s only 7kw 🤬) but hopefully they’ll all be upgraded by end of September (even if they can’t at present install any additional charges at the sites 😢). Good video. Will let you know if I decide on the ioniq 5, the enyaq or I wait for the Tesla model Y LR, as my next electric taxi. 👍 If you’re local, I work via associated taxis in BishopsStortford and I’m currently the only electric taxi locally to that area. Although I’m trying my best to convert the diesel estate drivers that make up 90% of the taxi drivers around here

I do a regular journey north stopping at Woolley Edge services (Greggs steak bake!) which is 180 miles. Next services north is Leeds Skelton which is 195 miles. Most of the journey is motorway at say 75-80 mph. Given that speed would reduce the range by 20-25% and no one wants to get there with under 10% range left, that means I need a range of about 270 miles. Guess I should wait

Out here in the western USA it's range above all other factors. Of course a road noisy car won't do on a 300 mile trip. Neither will bad seats. After that it's range and mountain performance (climbing and descending) along with "boot" space. We typically travel with 2 bags each.

The lab-testing was hilarious! :D

250+ mls guaranteed, year round min range and 45 min re-charge is my realistic aspiration by Spring 2022- pref 300 mls - and anything sub 1 hr re-charge ok

What was the route and what speeds did you travel at?/how long did it take? Were all tyre pressures checked etc?

The ability to fast charge is more helpful to more people; massive range only really benefits those with the luxury of home charging (I haven't so I am biased) .

I was surprised that the Kona only just topped 4m/kw. I’ve seen reviews where it reaches 6m/kw. Also 90% of my journeys would be powered by electric from a wall box at home plus the outward leg of a long journey so 100kw chargers are fine for me. Finally I have to pull you up on driving whilst using a walki-talkie radio. Felt too much like a mobile to me tut-tut. Maybe have it attached to a window with a push button talk option next time.

I'd like a world that's not going to flood and burn up and either end. MG is the only manufacturer that can get a clean car into the hands of the ordinary salary earner.

You should really learn aboit charging curves, the id3 will never come close to the 100 kw/h when it is not under 50% state of charge. Neither will any of the other brands come close to the maximum charging speed above 50%battery. You might want to check out the Norwegian bjorn's channel to learn about charging. I do like your other points in review, but the charging part is giving me the creeps and is a down right minus 4 stars on a 5 star rating and especially as you are downplaying it with a 'we don't know why it is charging so slow'

Before buying I also did the math and yep it was the kona that won me over. I mostly do short commutes and charge on weekends at 3.5kw because I want to soak up as much solar power as my panels can give me and electricity is cheaper or after midnight. When on roadtrips charging at 75kw is good enough to have a snack or stretch ones legs. As for looks they are all in quite the same league.

“Edutainment” at its best. Thanks guys.

Both matter and charging speed matter. Less stopping because you have more range is important. Less time you have to wait means you can go on longer trips without large chunks of time wasted charging.

Specs like Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5 have are great by me. They can tow 1600 kg, have enough range and charge fast enough. More would be nice, but not necessary. It matches or exceeds ICE cars in usability. I own a Hyundai Ioniq 28 Kwh now. It suits my needs but feels lacking in range and charging speed on very long trips. Also not allowed to tow anything. It feels a little bit handicapped when compared to ICE vehicles in those areas. I still chose it because it's clean, comfortable, nippy and cheap to drive.

Interesting, but not keen on the walkie-talkie whilst driving! Range for me is most important currently, ( no pun intended!) and charge times second. I would charge at home for most of my ev use, but road-tripping would be frequent too, so a 15 minute charge time from 20% to give me back a couple of hours driving, say 150 miles in the 15 minutes would be great. Despite your slower charging time for the Kona, that would be my choice over anything valued at £30k ish. More pertinent for me, and missed I think on your test, is the now standard ‘mph’ charge time…. I would like to have over 500 mph charge time. What do you think to re-running the figures to add this details? Thanks! 👏😀

real world i am a sales rep in an area of about 17000square miles doing 4 sales calls a day plus driving to and from the office odd whole sale and shopping trips yet average about 50 miles a day 5 or 6 days a week with eight adults at home driving six other cars and vans all under 30 miles a day i think most reviewers concentrate to much on range rather than practicality or desire which has a bigger impact on our buying decisions .

FYI, the ID.3 with the 204PS motor is about 7secs 0-62mph.

Excellent job, love your videos! However, I do not agree with the conclusions. If you just have one car as I do, you need to have at least 200 miles of real world range. Efficiency is important because means less charging and less money, and time of charging is important too but the real problem is the reliability of the charging infrastructure. That's why on an ICE car you don't have anxiety, because you know that you'll find somewhere to refuel no matter where you are. Hopefully it will get easier and easier to recharge in the next months/years. Also, I am really looking forward to the new MG 5, hopefully coming to the UK soon, and the new MG ZS Ev is fantastic and better value for money than VWs or the Kona.

Also depends on how low you get the battery before charging which will give you faster rates over the whole charge range

indeed, you should have taken into account the 5-10% losses you get from the charging station to the battery. On the other hand, you could argue, that's the real world overall consumption. Although, those losses are not specific to the cars.

Loved these three. Really enjoyed this.

Range is important for the odd long trip that you might want to enjoy, but how often do we need it on a day to day basis? I live on the Isle of Mull where there are chargers, right outside of my work (convenient) and in Oban my first stopping off point in the mainland so I can see myself going electric in the next year or two. Ultimately though if electric is the way to go the charging network has to keep up with the speed capabilities of the car technology. The more EV's on the road, the more EV's charging, the more necessary that it will be for the network to be faster. Its all very well charging for 25 - 40 minutes, where you can get a coffee, rest up, listen to a podcast whatever, but being behind a queue of others that could get painful. Not sure the Kona looks like £10000 more car than the MG5, if I was spending that kind of money I'd see if I can stretch further to the Ioniq5 where the quality seems to be up on another level.

Range every time. I'm an old Grampa who has solar PV on my roof, and a Tesla Powerwall 2 and a granddaughter who lives 100 miles away who we visit every week. I don't care how long it takes to charge, just as long as I can do the 200 mile round trip on the charge I can get from my Zappi (when I buy it). That will save me £40 per week just visiting our granddaughter.

Recently replaced my tesla model 3 SR+ with a Škoda Enyaq 60. 240 mile range and 100 kW charging is a real sweet spot for me. It's a brilliant combination

The VW has a V3.0 update pending which brings charging up to 130kw/h and also improved efficiency because it won’t warm the battery with as much kWh during driving

It looks like this experiment, to show which car has the does the best miles per £, has a major flaw. When 3 cars are driven in convoy the car at the front will take the full force of the wind and shield the car behind, the third car in the row will see the least wind. In a car air resistance is the major impediment to forward motion, ie most of the energy used by a car is in combating air resistance. In a convoy of 3 cars the one at the front would always use the most energy. To make the comparison valid all three car would have to be driven independently by the same driver in exactly the same manner. If different drivers were used some would naturally drive closer to the car/lorry/van in front and this would greatly affect the battery usage.

If an EV were my primary vehicle, I too would like 250 miles real world w/100 kW charge capability. As far as cost goes its the old adage of pay me now or pay me later, so if you purchase a vehicle for more money up front but cost less to charge or you pay less up front but pay more to charge up its all the same to me. I have a short range subcompact EV, Chevy Spark EV, that fits my needs perfectly but I do love to drive it and a little more range would be cool. Looks like the Hyundai/Kia EVs are going to do guite well in the near future.

Is the discrepancy in 'actual' mileage all three cars saw down to using the kWh readings from the chargers? There is an efficiency loss in charging any battery, from resistive losses in the power leads, losses in the charge electronics and the internal resistance of the battery. Because of these losses the charger will always deliver more kWh than actually ends up stored in the battery, and the faster you charge it the higher the losses will be (lower charging efficiency). This does raise another question that I think I recall Tesla Bjorn was talking about - is the Tritium charger metering the electricity supply *into* the charger, or the electricity *delivered* to the vehicle (down the DC cable)? If the former, the charger system is making you pay for its own internal losses, and this would also contribute to the discrepancy in reported mileage efficiency that all three cars saw. I believe the EU are looking at regulating this, so the metering is done at the car connector end of the charge cable?

Don't forget that when comparing diesel costs to electric diesel is carrying fuel duty + vat so not a fair comparison.

I'm in a situation where I want to go electric, but do not have a driveway to park and charge in. I live in a terrace row with only on-street parking. So I am restricted to public charging points and these are not easy to find vacant in my local area. There are not many around and they are often occupied when I check them out. So for this reason, I am VERY interested in range in order to be able to commute for a few days without charging, allowing me to have more opportunity to charge without getting stressed I am running out of juice.

I would opt for charging speed over battery capacity. In an ideal world where chargers are plentiful and reliable, you could get away with around 35-40 kWh batteries and benefit from a lighter more efficient car as a result. As chargers are neither of those things yet, it is massively handy to have those larger batteries.

Alexei Sayle's voice has changed *so much*

Did I miss something or was the cost of the cars ignored in the calculations? (Happy to be corrected 🤔)

I'd say that not being able to set the MG to stop charging at a certain point bodes poorly for the long term health of the battery. If it always charges to 100% or even 90% its going to lose noticable range over a few years of owning it.

Id 3 already has a twisted trim piece, just to Ginny's right, if anyone could look at the car itself !

I guess there's the charging efficiency bit of the equation to factor in for the meters in the cars, but as consumers we don't really care about that it's how fast and what's the cost. Daily though it's going to be relatively slow 7kW charging at home overnight and just the super duper charging on the odd long trip so I'd probably vote faster charging like Wookie

I only charge my older mg5 at home, I do 22miles twice each day and so far my trip computer says 4.1 miles/kwh average over the whole 12 months. I’m more than happy paying 8p/kwh (2p per mile) but I wouldn’t like to pay the 70p (18p per mile) at public chargers. Cheaper in fuel to run a 50mpg diesel and definitely warmer in the winter.

Kona is the winner, most efficient. The charging speeds advertised can be a red herring as some of them only reach those speeds at 10%...

I realise this is a test for affordable EV's, but it does bring home how far ahead Tesla is. I'm excited about the Tesla Model 2, if it is a Golf sized 5 door hatchback with Tesla tech, then it could really be a game changer.

Great video and very interesting thanks

Longer warranty is much better compare to shorter warranty let say 3 years after that yearly car serving they look for replacement parts bit by bit like control arm or bushing, upper and lower, drop link, tie rods, all moving parts sometimes they use entension bar to brake the parts every year this is how they make money and very expensive charges in main dealer compare to local car garage.