There is no better ending when you realise that you are canon:)

Roses are red Violets are blue I'm Big Boss And you're too

We will never get a proper MG1 and MG2 remake with Sutherland voicing BB and Hayter back as a young Solid Snake:(

I just realized that Naked Snake is wearing the same outfit Eva was wearing when she left in mgs3

4:41 All that gunfire and explosions your hearing, is the result of Solid Snake fighting all the Daimond Dogs/Outer Heaven soldiers

i wanna leave my honest opinion on this ending as i'd understand it the 1st time i played it when it came out There's 5 things to realize in this ending 1. The whole message from Big Boss to Venom is a symbolic and metaphorical. Its basically Kojima saying thank you to the fans for supporting him & the games. "I am you & you are me, thank you my friend.. from here on out, you're Big Boss" Kojima is saying that he couldn't have done all these without his fan's support but he doesnt want to carry the merit with him alone, he wanna share it with all of us who played it. Konami might take the series from him, but it will always be with us till the end of time. 2. This also explain why Big Boss is called Ismael while Venom is called Ahab, its based on a book "the Hunt for Moby Dick" or something, Ahab being the star of the show while Ismael sitting on the sideline watching everything happen.. The story is about Ahab, but through the eyes of Ismael.. Big Boss sat on the sideline while Venom makes everything happen. Kojima sat on the sideline and watch us play through the game via KZfaq. The whole thing is about duality. 3. Thats the reason why this entry is called Metal Gear Solid V instead of 5, V is Venom Snake, we are Venom Snake, therefore this title is all about us, the players.. we are canon, we are what connects Big Bosses story to Solid Snake's story 4. Operation Intrude N3N3 is the name of the operation in Metal Gear 1 on MSX Home Computer.. Solid Snake's mission to infiltrate Outer Heaven. Speaking of which, the machine next to the Bitcoder IS the MSX Home Computer. Which means in this seamless cutscene, years has passed and we are now transported to Metal Gear 1 storyline, Venom has gone demon and all those background gunfire and explosion is Solid Snake infiltrating. 5. Outer Heaven logo in the background after Venom punched the mirror.. Clarifying point no.4 even further. I know alot of people were upset that it doesnt show Solid Snake and have Hayter voicing a cameo but remember the title's name.. Phantom Pain. Something that is supposed to be there but it isn't and yet.. the pain wont go away

I thought that getting replaced by Raiden was bad... but dad got replaced by a medic! xD

loved the scene where Big Boss & Revolver Ocelot share a brief moment of friendship as the sun is rising. Especially on the ending music with Ocelot leaving and the camera slowly zooming in with Big Boss starting the motorcycle and staring directly at us the audience... kind of my ending that I'd have when I leave for another adventure.

so THAT's how the sneaky fucker was still alive at the end of MGS4!!! ...is it?

8:39 Outer Heaven logo in the back

There was suppose to be an unwinnable boss battle against Solid though

Now before you rip me to shreds, I think that Keifer Sutherland does a better Big Boss. Now while I am a big fan of David Hayter's voice, I think that it's good that BB and Solid Snake have distinctions in their voices.

2:40 Gave me goosebumps looking at that badass shit. The legend himself.

Why is everyone so pissed at this ending in my honest opinion this brings the metal gear and metal gear solid games together, to avoid his own demise and nuclear destruction he made an exact double to carry out his missions and on metal gear 1 the big boss you kill is the venom snake version which will explain the fact that you are directed by big boss to kill big boss(venom snake) because he went fucking insane with power and in turn a way no one expected was the ultimate fall of Big Boss the hero and brings him into infamous villainy this is a great story element very fresh story telling because it surprises the audience. in my years of playing the metal gear and metal gear solid series I never thought big boss was meant to be the villain but the organization and the government were set to tarnish the name of Big Boss the hero. I implore you to please play phantom pain and then play metal gear 1 and 2 you will see it all makes a lot of sense story wise

Kojima clearly saw The Prestige

Trolljima strikes again

Once you grasp the true meaning behind this, it's really emotional, or I simply could be over analyzing it.

Is it just me or does anyone get goosebumps when you see the real big boss on the motor bike with that music in the back

I am thinking of a scene to where big boss 1 is older and visits the death place of big boss 2 and salutes him and saying " even though you plunged into darkness, you were one of my best soldiers and did my biddings. I thank you my old friend for your sacrifice."

So he is the real Slim Shady?

I liked the ending... Fuck me, right?

To add to what this guy was saying, basically another brilliant thing IS the fact we don't play the actual Big Boss, because he's his own person and we can never truly be him. In other words, he's immortalized as the legendary Big Boss, leaving us to last play him in his prime in Peace Walker before realizing he was really a villain who played not only us the players - but everyone else. The detachment was his downfall, or rather, we didn't see a particular moment in a downfall because it was his entire saga that was his downfall (Snake Eater, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes). The ending says anyone can be "Snake", we are all Big Boss. But we aren't at the same time. And the one we see that is the true BB, is the villain of the series at this last stage of a metamorphosis.

Puberty just hits Christ Pratt so hard that he actually changes into Big Boss

I never saw the logo, it actually changes after he breaks the mirror.....Outer heaven!

I knew that this was the twist months in advance, but I thought they were gonna use Hayter to voice the real Big Boss. Anyone else think that would have been awesome fan service after an overly long game?

It still trips me up that the gunfire heard in the beginning of Venoms scene is actually Solid Snake in combat with the Diamond Dogs/Outer Heaven.

There's actually another set of cutscenes that have been removed from the main game where it is shown that Raiden is actually Quiet and Kaz is actually Morpho the heli pilot from GZ, but they both underwent surgery and nanoparasite therapy to change their appearances I found them by doing some data mining inside Kojima's ass

I got to steal my grandpas jacket, it's the very same one big boss is wearing.

+We'll meet again. -Right! I Wonder if they ever did...

This scene is not about real or fake big boss is all about how bad ass snake look smoking that cigar on a triumph motorcycle.

To be fair Kaz pissed off Boss for lying in Peace Walker about Paz, etc. MSF was all built on lies and deception. The 2 were already divided making this choice plus 9 years easier.

I wish I could undergo hypnogosia therapy so that I can play this game again for the first time. As i know a lot of people arent a fan of MGSV's story, but I LOVED it! I consider the twist of finding out you werent playing as the original Big Boss, but his phantom, M.S.F's best soldier and medic. One of the best twists in gaming in my opinion.

I really liked the ending. Snake used his best man for his own objectives, creating another Big Boss to avoid death and a nuclear disaster. Venom Snake was the other half of Big Boss. He thought as Big Boss, he acted as Big Boss, he fought as Big Boss. He even killed his soldiers to go on. Now, my question is....why has this cool ending been ruined by the absence of Mission 51? What about Eli, the parasite and the Sahelanthropus? "This pain...is ours."

So much inner conflict. MGS3 is my favorite game in the series but it's blindingly obvious MGS3 wrecked the overall story beyond any and all repair.

8:39 that is clearly the Outer Haven logo visible on the door.. So this is right before Venom Snake fights Solid.

This ending gives me goosebumps every time.

Doesn't matter who you are... Just one thing matters: what you think about yourself

if you dident notice , when he punches the mirror hes actually giving the real BB a fist bump look at arms

I feel like the ending was a thank you love letter to the people who supported the series. Basically saying WE are all The boss

Beware the one who you call ugly in highschool... Medic -> Big Boss Big Boss -> Missing..

So. It was Ahab who died in Outerheaven

Kojima saying that the players are the legend

When Venom Snake smashes the mirror and walks into the misty darkness looking sinister, is me descending into a dark change of personality, and I know I'll never be the same man everyone knew.

They played us like a damn fiddle!!!!! Ok, guys, let me tell you something. Do not dislike this ending, t'is a story of V snake only and indeed makes sense for the next games... The next game, i imagine will be of the real Big Boss or maybe of Solid Snake.

Kojima really loves that sony logo lol

When I finished Final Fantasy VII, around 1998, I was sure that I've played the best video game of all time. I was only 13 back then, with a little more than 5 years of gaming experience, and little english knowledge. But FF VII, man... it was special. It still is. Then Metal Gear Solid came a year later - it was truly exceptional. But there was a bigger picture - the Metal Gear universe -, and I didn't know all the details at the time - hell, I might not know everything as of today. So MGS was amazing, but I needed to know more. The motivation behind the characters, their purpose. The whole picture. Since you can't have two favourite games - there should be an "Ultimate" fav, at least for me -, FF VII held the slightest of edges over the MGS franchise (I've played all titles over the years, except Portable Ops) at the top of my list for 17 years. Nothing could touch them, and that's unlikely to change. But after 17 long years, the order has finally reversed. The timing might be strange, because I'm aware that this isn't the best game of the series, nor is truly finished. But MGSV:TPP - and not MGS 4! - somehow gave me the whole picture. Thanks Hideo, you won.

8:31 I just now noticed that the mirror image has normal hand instead of that prostethic

what actually happened is that Kojima Fucked our Heads up! He was doing good but suddenly he started a mess with Konami and with his stubborn mind he puts an end in the game on the halfway.This game could goto 100+ episodes because the 2nd chapter just started and never ended!

I now see why I need to go back and play the other Metal Gears, but... From the comments I've seen I can sum up a basic story, still going to go and do some revision now.

So it is a damn mega inception paradox, because big boss has our face and name, and we are the big boss but the venom is us again and so on, and at the end we all are big boss

2:40 really just said “There can only be one Big Boss and one Snake (us)” without using words. And that’s why I don’t take Mission 51 as canon. Take a bow Kojima.

the ending gives me goosebumbs

3:03 The most epic shot ever

crashing the mirror venom tries to say that he is no demon

Why are people complaint that you don't get to see the downfall of big boss? Don't you understand there was no downfall, it was venom snake using his alias, mg1 was big boss sending solid to his death by fighting venom snake aka big boss, solid was underestimated and won the fight, then in mg2 solid is confused because big boss is back, but he doesn't know this is the good and original one, he kills him, then big bosses body is regenerated... This was an amazing ending especially if you have been a fan since mg1 so stop complaining and be thankful hideo was able to make his last game. Here's hoping for a release of chapter 3

It would've been cool if Ocelot told big boss "till we meet again John"

I revere this scene, it's taken so finely

Nice Sony product placement

This is also kojima talking and thanking us. awesome

They the perfect opportunity to cast hayter as the real snake and keifer as the fake one!

Nice Easter Egg.. On the other side of the Tape was a Type of Secret Code telling (Venom) Snake About Solid Snake's Eventual Infiltration and how You (Snake) train and basically Set-Up the Events of Metal Gear.

While they were having this conversation and lighting this cigar, a giant flaming whale was swallowing a helicopter, at most fifty meters away from them, that's the one plot hole I can't get over.

When snake punches that mirror it remjnds me if allthe people that are so pissed off at this ending. They probably felt like punching a mirror too.. Thats why he had venom snake do that lol

He played us like a damn fiddle! D:

I loved this ending connecting dots and why there are 2 big boss

Whats the soundtrack name when he is sitting on the bike?

In 8:39 the last stand of venom snake and ready too see his battle and how he dies by the hands of Solid Snake himself

After extracting all the children's "THE MAN WHO SOLD THE KIDS" Taaraaa tarara taaraaa tarara

In the "Not Your Kind of People" trailer, Big Boss has the shrapnel in his head when on the motorcycle.

It doesn't really fit with the rest of the game, but I can't help but see an interpretation where Venom is rejecting the future of Metal Gear 1, or making an effort to "change the future", as Big Boss says. He smashes the mirror that shows his demonic future self in Outer Heaven, then walks into an abyss - meaning whole new territory, a new timeline. It is like he is smashing the future itself and rejecting his role that the rest of the series is based on/started from. (That said, it is more likely is that he is walking into the abyss of death.)

It would have been cool to see a bit more after this. Imagine it cuts to a view of what is now Outer Heaven, tension building music plays. We see an elevator travelling down, the doors open and someone exits, showing only their feet as they walk down a corridor to the sound of emergency alarms and flashing red lights. Arriving at a door at the end of the corridor, it opens automatically. We see an over the shoulder shot of Venom Snake as he stares, face to face with a figure in the doorway. The figure steps into the room, it's Solid Snake. Venom looks with a menacing and very small look of worry. "Solid Snake!" he shouts as the music reaches it's climax and the camera pans to a birds eye view. The music fades out and the picture starts to pixelate. We then play the boss fight from Metal Gear, 8 bit music included. After killing Venom with your flamethrower, the screen goes black. "Operation Intrude N313 completed", says David Hayter.

I hade a feeling of this at one point because big boss doesn't do the things venom does

Why the DD emblem did have diamond in it? Doesn't Mission 43 is mandatory to unlock MIssion 46?

Spoilers ahead. I have a theory on the ending of metal gear solid 5. At the end of the game it’s revealed that Venom Snake is not truly Big Boss. This is false. Venom Snake is Big Boss and here’s why. First of all. The man in bandages. He is a hallucination. There is a cassette tape labeled “the effects of Snake’s coma”. In it is mentioned that Snake is still feeling the effects of his 9 year coma just after waking up. So, figuring out what is real in the hospital is tricky. Anything can be hallucinated. So, a good way to tell if something is hallucinated or not is determining if something seen in the hospital appears later in the game. This kind of evidence can be found from anywhere except cassette tapes. Spoiler alert, but Big Boss is capable of hallucinating cassette tapes. BB is also capable of hallucinating entire rooms. That fact, coupled with the fact that he can hallucinate entire conversations, means that the scene at the very end were Ishmael rides off into the sunset and the scene were miller regards Venom Snake as he and the “real” Big Boss are falling into comas can also be a hallucination. This is all supported because at a certain point in the game it is revealed that Paz is still alive. However it turns out that BB hallucinated all the conversations he ends up having with her, AND all the cassette tapes she shares with him and the hospital room they have these conversations in. Things like quite, the man on fire, and the third boy all appear later in the game. So we know that they actually exist because later in the game the effects of Snake’s coma have lessened in some degree. Ishmael is the only thing that doesn’t appear later. But he does appear in mission 46 labeled the “truth”. This is the mission were the twist is revealed. Let me assure you, this mission is anything from the truth. Kojima has been quoted as saying that a lot of things in metal gear are inspired by the book 1984. One of the biggest references in the phantom pain is the year it takes place, 1984. There are cassette tapes that BB receives after the player plays this mission. Many things are “explained” in this mission, but it is totally possible that these were all hallucinated. However these hallucinated cassette tapes are a good way to see what is going on in BB’s head, because BB is subconsciously creating the cassette tapes. One of these cassette tapes is called “doublethink”. In the book 1984 doublethink is a way that the government suppress the truth, enslaving the poor people in London. This cassette tape is where most of the things about Venom are explained. But the nature of doublethink is not knowing what the truth is. Ocelot even says “in this year 2 + 2 = 5”. This cassette tape gets less and less reputable the more you think about it. Even the fact that mission 46 is called the truth makes it more likely to be the lie, because that’s the nature of doublethink. To say one think is the truth when it is a lie. In 1984 the main character’s job is to change old documents so that they seem to predict future events. He fabricates lies from old speeches and reports. This is the case with mission 1 and mission 46. Mission 46 is the change that happens to mission one, reminiscent of the falsified documents in 1984. Not only that, but look at the character of Ishmael. The name is a reference to Moby Dick. In the book, Ishmael is two characters. The protagonist and the narrator. Ishmael can’t be the protagonist because Venom is the protagonist. So naturally he is the narrator. They are the same person, but they can’t exist in the same place, because Ishmael the narrator is older than Ishmael the character because Ishmael the narrator is telling the story about himself. This works with BB and Ishmael. This is supported by another piece of evidence. Ishmael in the game breaks the fourth wall. The nature of a narrator is to break the fourth wall. Narrators always address the audience. Ishmael in the game does this, he address the player when he tells the player to press the stance button. So if Ishmael is the narrator and BB is the protagonist and they therefore can’t exist in the same place then this supports the idea that Ishmael is a hallucination. There are so many inconsistencies created by the end of the game. Like consider this, how to ocelot save the “real” Big Boss? He wipes his memory of Ishmael in one of the “truth” cassette tapes. It seems safe to assume that in-between getting Ishmael a ride and saving Big Boss in the van I don’t think he had time to wipe his memory and record a cassette tape. AND why does Quite want to kill Big Boss? She explains at the end that she wanted revenge for him burning her but he didn’t burn her. Ishmael did. This little detail made sense when Ishmael was just a hallucination. But if he was really the one who burned Quite then why did she want revenge on BB? If Ishmael was really physically there then she would have wanted revenge on Ishmael not BB. AAND in metal gear solid 4 at the end when Big Boss shows up he mentions that it was impossible to completely recreate someone’s personality until Liquid Ocelot. Now let me explain something. Some of you reading this are probably thinking that there has to be a second Big Boss because in MGS4 he doesn’t have the horn, and because he dies in the first metal gear game. Well let me address the simpler topic first. Big Boss in MGS4 was a Frankenstein of Liquid and Solidus. He was “patched up” using their recycled parts. Now, in the first metal gear game when BB “dies” he gets burned by Solid Snake. But people have survived things similar to this in the series. Zadornov brought himself back to life on the thirst for revenge alone. Quite was burned to death AND fell out of a multi-story window and she was brought back to life using parasites. So whether BB gets juiced up on parasites or he lives on sheer will power alone, it’s entirely possible that he lived. Finally, I’m going to talk about the last important piece of evidence. The Man Who Sold the World. The song that is originally by David Bowie, and featured in MGS 5. In the game it’s interpreted as there being two men. In the case of the game that would be Venom and Big Boss as individual people. When really the song is about one person. It’s about the man’s inner struggle with himself. The struggle between who he really is and the person he has sold himself as. “The Man Who Sold the World” is the image of himself that he has “sold” to the world. So these aren’t two individual Big Boss’. They are the two personalities of the one man. Venom Snake is as much the real physical Big Boss as the Big Boss in the hallucination is. And once you understand this it has HUGE ramifications for the rest of the series. It explains Big Boss. He is stuck between who he has become, venom, punished, and who the world sees him as, Big Boss. He is caught between the phantom pain, and the best part of himself. So when Big Boss rides away on the motorcycle it is symbolic of the best part of Snake leaving. No one can escape the phantom pain. Not even Big Boss.

see, now this is what bothers me at the beginning the (real big boss) was shot, by bullets from a helicopter at that, so was he not injured? and I thought the car exploded but maybe I just imagined that part

I was weirded out by Venoms smoking an ecigar cause in snake eater snake said they were disgusting and dont beat the real thing... its all coming togerher now lol XD

Zero hides Big Boss in a hospital on Cyprus? So am I safe to assume that Big Boss doesn't know that Zero is Cipher yet.

Random, but I never understood how Snake/Big Boss still had teeth after Volgin beat the tar out of him in Groznyj Grad. Can't see the legendary warrior having cosmetic dental work

Can someone please tell me what the OST is when bigboss gets his cigar and hops onto his motorcycle

''We'll meet again'' and that never happened....

6:50 he almost cried (

Gaurd: name? ;Big boss: Adam; Gaurd: Adam what?; Big boss: just Adam

take someone and put in your place to receive all the crap that you did in the past is something pretty evil

And now hes back.

wait a minute. how did they have enough time to do all this while volgen was following them?

That's bonnevill is so cool.

The literal idea of being big boss turns you into a badass, worth it.

Why everyone talking about the fake big boss and not about how bad ass the real one smokes that cigar on his triumph motorbike with that leather jacket.

8:17 That is cool.

and the next time these two meet is...They dont?

Imagine the two of them joining up in battle and the enemies and crew would be so confused and ocelot would be there "hey big boss..and other boss"

Walking into those shadows all bad ass like was dope because we know who he fights 11 years later.......I don't care if it Kojima or Konami they need to retell Outer Heaven and the introduction of Solid Snake.

will the real big boss please stand up please stand up.

I feel like the big boss in MGSV (the real one) and Ground Zeros isn't the same big boss in MGS3 or MGS:PW. It feels as though the character was re-casted.

i know kojima is not around anymore but i hope konami remake metal gear 1 and 2.

3:10 a wink would have been perfect.

The last good looking last gen game.

If Ishmael is big boss. Why does he still have is right eye? It was shot out in mgs3 but if you look he has his eye. Then we he's on the bike he has the eyepatch.... ???

I want the triumph booneville because of this

I knew something was wrong with Venom Snake. He was quiet and the intro with Ahab raised my suspicions. Plus, the obvious horn that only Venom Snake has. Anyways, WOAH HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!