Micah Goodman: There can be no solution in Israel/Palestine for at least a generation

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The Jewish Chronicle

The Jewish Chronicle

4 ай бұрын

This week, Jake is joined by Israeli philosopher and public intellectual Micah Goodman - they discuss ways to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and why Micah doesn't think there'll be a resolution any time soon
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@arthadude
@arthadude 4 ай бұрын
Two thoughts: (1) When Bennett began implementing the "shrinking" of the conflict (expanding work-permits for example), Iran turned up the dial and their proxies in the West Bank began a series of attacks that undermined the coalition government and returned Bibi to power. (2) Iran beta-tested the current propaganda/social-media/lawfare strategy in May 2021. They recognized then that they had penetrated into Western academia and would be able to activate those "useful idiots" in the next (and current) conflict.
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 4 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@saraleigh5336
@saraleigh5336 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that is precisely what happened.
@YonieZukowsky51
@YonieZukowsky51 3 ай бұрын
We paid a high price for our civil polarization earlier in the year.
@saraleigh5336
@saraleigh5336 4 ай бұрын
Except Nakba was originally coined to mean the failure to annihilate the nascent state of Israel.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
With them ones need to buy the same horse 🐎 twice , what a way to negotiate!
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Love the interviews question, ha , ha .
@adaptiveagile
@adaptiveagile 4 ай бұрын
Good guest, but this type of management approach won't work with the Palestinians. Take, for example, the idea of increasing their autonomy with more self-governing security forces. It didn't work in the past, so why would it work now? When the PA was set up as the security force, the PA quickly became corrupt, leading to fissures in society. Then PA members began defecting to Hamas. They end up weaponizing any autonomy against Israel. And when one of faction attacks Israel, which inevitably results in heavier security restrictions, then the radical center of gravity across the population rises and we're back to where we started. If Israelis want to survive, they must become completely self reliant. The West has absolutely no understanding of Middle East culture and radical Islam; Israel should not become someone else's social science experiment.
@unisophia
@unisophia 4 ай бұрын
exactly! seems like he wants the same old non-solution, just rebranded. magical thinking, once again. magical thinking doesn’t work in real world.
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Read and listen to the words of Hasan Nasrallah, Takadum Al-Khatib, Mustafa Barghouti, Ghazi Hamad, Abdullah al Andalusi, Mohammad Hijab, along with new favorite Yemeni imam, Habib Umar bin Hafiz, and you will understand why this pretend state with women's rights, gay rights, etc, is not in the cards. Not their mindset. You are speaking in Western voice.
@stephenmathai6584
@stephenmathai6584 3 ай бұрын
Now the radical Islam eating the west. For the sake of vote bank president Biden is firced in to cease fire
@sonusayeed6907
@sonusayeed6907 2 ай бұрын
Er, you are the west .in the middle east. 🇵🇸 #FromTheRiverToTheSea #Palestine will be free!🇵🇸 #Fascism #BDSMovement #BDS #Apartheid #FreePalestine
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals 2 ай бұрын
@@sonusayeed6907 Read the words of Hassan Nasrallah, Mustafa Barghouti, Ghazi Hamad, Abdullah al Andalusi, Mohammad Hijab and Habib Umar bin Hafiz to understand that they WANT the West for the caliphate. Get it. A hand cut off of a thief for stealing food to eat--shaariah law. Get it.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Everyone I know is happy with Israel being a state , actually the the whole world 🌍 what he is talking about? I have no idea 🤷
@sheroldpruitt8328
@sheroldpruitt8328 4 ай бұрын
I know right
@clairezet3182
@clairezet3182 4 ай бұрын
SO GLAD MICHA GOODMAN HAS SOBERED UP ON THE 2 STATE DELUSION. NEXT HE MUST READ HOWARD GRIEF'S BOOK ON ISRAEL BORDERS IN INTERNATIONAL LAW. MICHA IS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ARE NOT FOR THE UNJUST, IMMORAL AND ILLEGAL 2 STATE DELUSION.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Some idiot said the the pen 🖊️ is mighty that the sword ⚔️?
@Rexident97
@Rexident97 4 ай бұрын
Judea not Westbank
@sherylkruger3344
@sherylkruger3344 3 ай бұрын
Great. Thank you
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 4 ай бұрын
Oct 7th shows you that Hamas, in fact pan Islamic jihadists, have no lower limit of attack on Israel. I think for one thing, Gaza has to be occupied and passified. But Israel cannot do this. It requires a coalition of Arab countries to run a provisional Palestinian government. Are they capable of that?
@mkvazquez5351
@mkvazquez5351 4 ай бұрын
What if you draw NEW borders?
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Everyone from there are on the same page 📃 denial and they are not faking it at all , sad 😢 but trouble 👿 are just beginning until the end I won’t see it or even my grandchildren’s but we all know what the outcome will be unfortunate.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
He mentioned Judea & Samaria countless time , gives us your DNA text and is all settled!
@rosaravich5783
@rosaravich5783 4 ай бұрын
And Jerusalem status in the future PS?
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 4 ай бұрын
Well yes. Finally an intelligent voice...
@clairezet3182
@clairezet3182 4 ай бұрын
MICHA IS RIGHT ISRAEL SHOULD BE MORE SOPHISTICATED RATHER THAN BE HONEST.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Post cast call denial , not the river in Africa!
@UnownLeaf
@UnownLeaf 3 ай бұрын
Bald Jews. I have two in my family.
@ivycheng7248
@ivycheng7248 3 ай бұрын
Too much arrogance… 😢
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to read the book 📕I like fiction!
@8_7478
@8_7478 4 ай бұрын
Your point?
@zachary813
@zachary813 4 ай бұрын
Jordan is Palestine; Jordanian citizenship and Israeli residencyfor Pals.
@adaptiveagile
@adaptiveagile 4 ай бұрын
Good luck convincing Jordan of that after 1970.
@zachary813
@zachary813 4 ай бұрын
@@adaptiveagile Queen Rania is a Palestinian; 75% of the Jordanian population are Palestinian; and Jordan occupies 75% of the original Mandate for Palestine. If the king had the balls of a man, he would accept it and solve the region's problem.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Hard to look for a solution when you are part of the problem!
@8_7478
@8_7478 4 ай бұрын
Still taking something? Affecting your writing.
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Free prison, good idea apparently!
@clairezet3182
@clairezet3182 4 ай бұрын
🎉IT WASN'T NETANYAHU WHO BTOUGHT PALESTINIANS WORKERS IN BUT BENNET AND LAPID!! I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO MICHA FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS. HE IS BRILLIANT ON MANY THINGS BUT HERE MUDDLED UP.
@Weneedmoresalt
@Weneedmoresalt 4 ай бұрын
A GENO IS STILL A GENO
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
DNA 🧬 text will do it !
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
He think he is an intellectual 🧐? !!!
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Lot’s Palestinians participation on his solutions , ha , ha !
@8_7478
@8_7478 4 ай бұрын
😴
@sonusayeed6907
@sonusayeed6907 2 ай бұрын
The right of return for Palestinians is enshrined in International Law. It's undeniable and not negotiable. 🇵🇸 #FromTheRiverToTheSea #Palestine will be free!🇵🇸 #Fascism #BDSMovement #BDS #Apartheid #FreePalestine
@alrosano5786
@alrosano5786 4 ай бұрын
Lucky 🍀 Jews don’t believe in Karma?
@8_7478
@8_7478 4 ай бұрын
Are you on something? Your comments really add nothing, just nonsensical.
@user-rf9ys2vz3i
@user-rf9ys2vz3i 4 ай бұрын
😂 these people are delusional.
@8_7478
@8_7478 4 ай бұрын
You again. Easy vto write delusional but not explain yourself, brother.
@motebike
@motebike 4 ай бұрын
If the state of Zionist Israel leaves the West Bank, and the land the UK, and USA carved for them, then its existence will be safer...in the USA.
@CarlaVanWalsum8
@CarlaVanWalsum8 4 ай бұрын
No. Jews are indigenous to the LONG BEFORE there were Muslims. You guys don't know hsitory and spread lies.
@Minniesara
@Minniesara 4 ай бұрын
US is Indian territory. Israel is Jewish territory, Jordan and Syria is Palestinian territory.
@USKitobxon
@USKitobxon 4 ай бұрын
@@CarlaVanWalsum8following your logic, Russia and eastern China along with whole Cental Asia should belong to my Turan nation😅. Stop being delusional!
@motebike
@motebike 4 ай бұрын
@@CarlaVanWalsum8 No. True Jews were a nomad race. They never had a land or country. They followed the message from their 'God', that we're all oneness. The only reason they were kicked out wherever they tried to settle in, is simply that they called themselves the 'chosen ones', which didn't go down well with other human races. It was only the Arabs who gave them a shelter, that almost no other race cared for. So, be thankful!. Did you know the laws of Torah?: Not to kill Not to steal Not to oppress the people. Get a life!
@deborahfreedman333
@deborahfreedman333 3 ай бұрын
If the Arab colonizers left all of the Jewish land they are occupying, including Jordan, the indigenous people, the Jews, would be much safer, and the region more prosperous.
@user-lw8cs6pl1o
@user-lw8cs6pl1o 4 ай бұрын
The solution is simple, Mr Biden should take all the people of israel to the US or take al the so called palestinians to the US
@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036
@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036 4 ай бұрын
Must be rough having only two braincells that are constantly fighting one another.
@CarlaVanWalsum8
@CarlaVanWalsum8 4 ай бұрын
@@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036 not one another. The fights are always started byt the Arabs.
@adaptiveagile
@adaptiveagile 4 ай бұрын
@@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036 But we can minimize the damage by increasing the autonomy of the braincells so they don't sacrifice identity, while remaining relatively satisfied.
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