What would a Labour government mean for Britain's Jews?

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The Jewish Chronicle

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On 20th May, The Jewish Chronicle hosted a panel discussion raising the question of what a Labour government would mean for Britain's Jews.
Joining JC Editor Jake Wallis Simons were Labour activist Josh Simons, former MP Dame Louise Ellman, chair of the Jewish Labour movement Mike Katz, and journalist Melanie Phillips.
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@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
I do not trust Labour.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Never
@RobertLinden-jm1ld
@RobertLinden-jm1ld Ай бұрын
If it come to it I’m a great. Fan of the Sampson option
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
@@RobertLinden-jm1ld What is the Sampson option?
@redset11
@redset11 Ай бұрын
As a Christian raised in London i have and will always support the Jewish people's right to their homeland Israel. A regular reader of Melanie Phillips - she's brilliant and i whole heartedly agree with her as she writes and speaks the truth. The ignorance of the average Brit surrounding the history of Israel and Palastine is staggering and given our Judeo-christian heritage quite disgraceful.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Bravo 👏👏. Melanie is always spot on. The only one who ever talks sense on Question Time, too.
@Noel-ji8nm
@Noel-ji8nm Ай бұрын
​@@carolegriggs3107She's a deceiver.
@njuham
@njuham Ай бұрын
Labour is beyond redemption, what Starmer is doing is polishing the proverbial.
@pinxtownington4645
@pinxtownington4645 Ай бұрын
They have screwed tax payers every which way over the years all labour councils have regularly cut services put rates up and to top it all you pay for going to tip,pay parking outside your house you name it over their tanure poor really got poorer and to to top it up Gordon brown sold 400 tons of treasury gold to his cronies at favourable rates
@semsemeini7905
@semsemeini7905 Ай бұрын
I started reading the Jewish Chronicle when I was 12 in 1964 and still in Britain. Loved reading it and always looked forward. Melanie Phillips a Star. Read her book Londonstan 20 years ago. My best friend who is Muslim says that if Labour wins it will be a disaster. Louise has a lot of courage. Must be a nightmare in this pool of hatred. I witnessed the antisemitism of the 1960s already. And now it's way worse.
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
I stand for Israel and the Jewish people in this country ❤
@fabfran4104
@fabfran4104 Ай бұрын
Why?
@jimjames4348
@jimjames4348 Ай бұрын
@@fabfran4104 Why not? I don't understand the people supporting hamas after their biggest ever massacre.
@8_7478
@8_7478 Ай бұрын
​@@fabfran4104Such a clever question. What made you ask?
@johnhealey4649
@johnhealey4649 Ай бұрын
You conveniently ignore all the massacres of Arab people by the Zionists over the previous 76 years.​@@jimjames4348
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
So so i
@Lighthouse567
@Lighthouse567 Ай бұрын
Sadly I think Melanie is right and The Labour Party will get rid of Keir once they are in
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
God help us of Angela Rayner moves up a cog…
@JelMain
@JelMain Ай бұрын
Make Labour electable again? Oh dear. It's things like this which have us in despair. What a choice!
@jfc4798
@jfc4798 Ай бұрын
They'll win by a landslide. Don't cry too much😢😢😢
@johnkohsamui6826
@johnkohsamui6826 Ай бұрын
I'm not a Jew, but I am Israeli, and you guys are barmy if you vote for a Labour government.
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
David Cameron has to go how did he creep back in????
@Mar11932
@Mar11932 Ай бұрын
Agree with everything Melanie Phillips says.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Melanie is always spot on ~ whatever the subject.
@patricia49509
@patricia49509 Ай бұрын
Everyone who loves this country has had enough .... Labour and Tory party dont care about ppl u all let hate run the streets people have had enough 😔
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Trouble is, what to do🤔
@susanschacter2346
@susanschacter2346 Ай бұрын
Melanie Phillips is the only one on the panel who is in touch with reality.
@pinxtownington4645
@pinxtownington4645 Ай бұрын
Don't go falling for that
@moonshinesa8234
@moonshinesa8234 Ай бұрын
It’s not falling for anything when you recognise someone who knows history very well and has no agenda and, therefore, doesn’t tell lies.
@Private-qg5il
@Private-qg5il Ай бұрын
We have no future anymore here, regardless... unless there is a major shift amongst fellow Brits. I don't see that coming.
@Owenalpe
@Owenalpe Ай бұрын
Don’t count the silent majority out. They see the hate against Jews and abhor it. Not because they love Jews necessarily but because they understand what it means for ordinary Brit’s to have this marriage between Islamism and the Left. We need a new political class and generation to take all of this on head first
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
There is a shift the working class Brits have had enough. 1st June.
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын
@user-yo6uq2fw1p what will happen on 1 June?
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
@@davidcooks2379 A celebration of all that is British.
@Pitchblue1
@Pitchblue1 Ай бұрын
Leave England before its too late , Christians might survive the Islamists revolution but the jews , we are a tiny minority and the people with their Palastine protests made their intentions very clear
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
The answer, in short, is Aliyah.
@yehuditcollins6783
@yehuditcollins6783 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Made Aliyah in 1979. Never regretted it. Bonus: Great health care here.
@Must_not_say_that
@Must_not_say_that Ай бұрын
Sadly, very sadly you are right. But not just that, turn to God because the world is turning against Jews and only God can and will deliver.
@marinats5873
@marinats5873 Ай бұрын
Vote right in any Western country
@bampitony6108
@bampitony6108 Ай бұрын
I really dread to think... Letting our friends down big time.. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇮🇱🇬🇧🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@adrianmoses3420
@adrianmoses3420 Ай бұрын
So how come Galloway won Rochdale on a Gaza ticket?
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Ай бұрын
I think you already know the answer to that!
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын
Muslims
@InterestedInDansk
@InterestedInDansk Ай бұрын
Don't worry he's a _busted flush_
@sisiphas
@sisiphas 14 күн бұрын
@@InterestedInDansk perhaps not quite
@DebbieMinzly-en2nb
@DebbieMinzly-en2nb Ай бұрын
I will never vote for for labour.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Never again.
@ag.s2012
@ag.s2012 Ай бұрын
I refer to the tweet on X where I questioned the moral compass and validity of these Jewish reps of labour when the day after (they probably knew) that David lammy of labour, shadow foreign secretary, stated labour support the ICC support of arresting Netanyahu, Z well as supporting Spain, ireland and Norway, by saying if labour get in they’ll seriously consider making their support official in the Palestinian state. If I was them I’d be ashamed and embarrassed that this is the REAL intention of labour. Let no Jew vote for labour. Corbyn’s ghost still casts a shadow and this is with sir keir’s permission. Don’t vote labour if you’re Jewish
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Ай бұрын
Let no one vote for Labour...full stop?
@pinxtownington4645
@pinxtownington4645 Ай бұрын
Don't vote labour if you love your country
@howard1beale
@howard1beale Ай бұрын
​@jstewart4205 exactly. Labour will sell Jews and anyone else down the river to turn us all into plebs
@CrystalJ7
@CrystalJ7 Ай бұрын
Melanie's face in the last few mins says it all and I believe she is right
@pauln2587
@pauln2587 Ай бұрын
1. Labour gets in. 2 Islamist MPs. 3. Sharia law in UK. Then the Saturday people followed by the Sunday people.
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Ай бұрын
And Re emergence of Sex Grooming gang crimes
@loganjames3789
@loganjames3789 Ай бұрын
Grief. If the JC thinks this 3 Labour aparatchiks... + 'rightist' Melanie is balanced or reflective of British Jews is delusional. The 'I will always vote Labour' is a dead end mantra and very depressing to hear. Thank you, Melanie, for your efforts.
@richardevans362
@richardevans362 Ай бұрын
A Labour malaise would mean that the Jews would have to leave UK in a hurry.
@debbielondon1809
@debbielondon1809 Ай бұрын
And a non-jew that makes my heart bleed. What would the UK be without our Jews? They are an important part of the fabric of our society.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
Yes, and all over the world. 🇮🇱
@h9erbi9dog
@h9erbi9dog Ай бұрын
Trouble, so vote Reform U.K.
@Rexident97
@Rexident97 Ай бұрын
Vote for Reform is vote for Labour genius
@britainbetterthanyou
@britainbetterthanyou Ай бұрын
Labour activist fake account
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
I will be.
@carolegriggs3107
@carolegriggs3107 Ай бұрын
This is what I worry about. In spite of everything I think I still have to vote Tory, as I’ve done for years…
@boysiedent6149
@boysiedent6149 Ай бұрын
One thing is absolutely certain that is whatever any new UK government do or give to the Jews. I will most certainly Never Be Enough
@lawrenceglover2674
@lawrenceglover2674 Ай бұрын
Louise Ellmann's recollections are terrible to hear. However, are the panel members really alarmed at the prospect of a Keir Starmer premiership? The Labour Party's position on the Gaza conflict, along with Germany's, gives unflinching support to the IDF Gaza onslaught. Melanie Phillips hovers somewhere to the right of Itamar Ben Gvir . But I found this a most interesting contribution to an agonising situation.
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Voting Reform who else.
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
SDP
@tillymay8271
@tillymay8271 Ай бұрын
Are they anti semitic
@havhara
@havhara Ай бұрын
Thank you for this great discussion and excellent program.
@revamp777
@revamp777 Ай бұрын
Tell Starmer state your case clearly on the Jewish Question and prove it, Bring Tommy Robinson convince him if you can't then we know the score.
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Watched an interview where labour MPs want to bring Gazan’s into the UK! What look at what is happening on our streets we are sick of these marches. Enough is enough no to the rise of antisemitism in the UK.
@susanschacter2346
@susanschacter2346 Ай бұрын
Across the pond in Canada, we have put out the Welcome mat for Gazans😢
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
@@susanschacter2346 Justin Castro what can I say.
@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Ай бұрын
​@@susanschacter2346it's insanity isn't it.
@florenceflorence58
@florenceflorence58 Ай бұрын
I watched a lunchtime political program on BBC2 where both Labour and Conservative stated they want to bring Palestinians into our Country as refugees.
@rareword
@rareword Ай бұрын
Must read online: SOVIET RUSSIA, THE CREATOR OF THE PLO AND THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE by Wallace Edward Brand
@marinats5873
@marinats5873 Ай бұрын
When I hear propalestinian slogans, brings my memory to my childhood in USSR, no surpeise, many Palestinians were educated in Moscow, and learned to build tunnels ( moscow has the best metro, it is adiffrent use in Palestine)
@Aijan100
@Aijan100 Ай бұрын
It was mentioned a lot in Einat Wilf’s book The war of return, but definitely want to learn more.
@johndenby6192
@johndenby6192 Ай бұрын
Does see odd that Southern Ireland demand a two state solution. Except for Northern Ireland , which they want back
@jonathanhoffman2122
@jonathanhoffman2122 Ай бұрын
Oh come on Josh. Starmer said NOTHING about the appalling motion fromn South Africa at ICJ. Unlike Sunak.
@davidalexsebastiank6250
@davidalexsebastiank6250 Ай бұрын
If Labour Party comes to power in UK then doomsday for UK starts at it will show too much leniency towards Islamists
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp Ай бұрын
Well done Melanie. Well spoken. I am frightened to go to central London because of these marches. I think keir starmer will be replaced.
@BobvanT
@BobvanT Ай бұрын
Labour or Tory are the same - Perhaps reform might do the job . Lived in the UK from 2000 -2012 - Very happy i left . Sorry for the good Brits still left in the UK .
@jstewart4205
@jstewart4205 Ай бұрын
Trust me, they are very far from being the same!
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
I lived in the UK from my birth in '71 until 2003. I return to work every now again. As I understand, Reform want to keep legal migration as it stands, at around 750,000, and the SDP want to cut it to 50k if there are 50k with PhDs.
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын
Where did you go?
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын
@LeeGee reform wants net 0, and only high-skilled, no illegals
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander Ай бұрын
Yes, neoliberal Blairite globalists. Unfortunately there are also many Jews who back the WEF and globalism, open borders and the erasure of the nation state and ethnic Europeans.
@Mark_Dyer
@Mark_Dyer Ай бұрын
Is STARMER sufficiently strong as to call out the TROOPS?
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Well said, disgusting!!!!!
@user-gx4em8er3o
@user-gx4em8er3o Ай бұрын
Starmer is not fully with the Palestinian cause because he is married to a Jewess. She is a restraining influence, obviously. Should he be replaced then support would dwindle.
@user-on5vf1mh6i
@user-on5vf1mh6i Ай бұрын
Why should a labour party have to do anything for you it's like me saying what does a labour party do for the black community
@moonshinesa8234
@moonshinesa8234 Ай бұрын
You would not be asking for anything they should be doing for you anyway - which is to protect your right to live in peace in your own country.
@sisiphas
@sisiphas 14 күн бұрын
I have been supported and observed the Labour Party for a very long time. Melanie is definitely NOT delusional about how secure Starmer is… sadly.
@jonnybingham1
@jonnybingham1 Ай бұрын
Josh is having to perform acrobatics.
@garywilkinson4560
@garywilkinson4560 2 күн бұрын
Love the Jews ,love Israel.As a Christian i stand with Israel.Ezekiel 36.24
@john73353
@john73353 Ай бұрын
British Jews should-not be bullied or intimidated etc due to the Actions of their barrack Government
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp Ай бұрын
David lammy has said netanyahu should be arrested .
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Whatever you do vote even if it’s a cross through the ballot paper to show our disdain.
@charlesbarlow
@charlesbarlow Ай бұрын
It is very difficult/unwise to ware/display a star of David in public in London at this time.
@hilarylazard7554
@hilarylazard7554 Ай бұрын
Do any of these people vote Conservative?
@tillymay8271
@tillymay8271 Ай бұрын
Can someone please answer my question? I don’t trust labour and I don’t trust Tori. I want to vote reform but I’m Jewish are they anti-Semitic?
@8_7478
@8_7478 Ай бұрын
Wise to be cautious as all parties use Jews when it suits them.
@0xkillswitch
@0xkillswitch Ай бұрын
Vote workers party. Everyone else is antisemitic. Or vote for that Feinstein guy. He's Jewish and he's legit.
@leoncsorba9085
@leoncsorba9085 Ай бұрын
WEF.
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Living in lala land.
@8_7478
@8_7478 Ай бұрын
And how are you finding it?
@CrystalJ7
@CrystalJ7 Ай бұрын
Keir wants to recognise a Palestinian State....
@easyreader6179
@easyreader6179 Ай бұрын
If Starmer gets in there will a Jewish family in No 10....Corbyn will hate that!!!
@benqurayza7872
@benqurayza7872 20 күн бұрын
There goes the neighbourhood!
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
😂Pink, Orange and yellow.
@nigeldix4841
@nigeldix4841 Ай бұрын
The labour talking head didn't address the question about current labour MPs supporting Hamas etc , I wonder why,
@santhawaldron8799
@santhawaldron8799 Ай бұрын
Please Vote for RERORM Party to sort out these Pro Palestine. Protectors and more !
@user-yo6uq2fw1p
@user-yo6uq2fw1p Ай бұрын
Do you know what Reforms policy is towards Israel?
@santhawaldron8799
@santhawaldron8799 Ай бұрын
@@user-yo6uq2fw1p Reform has Jewish coordinators in Reform party for this coming election. Reform supports Israel .
@ruthodonnell2350
@ruthodonnell2350 Ай бұрын
LIEBOR would be no good for anyone imo
@CPHSDC
@CPHSDC Ай бұрын
The discussion assumes there is relevance to party politics.
@debbielondon1809
@debbielondon1809 Ай бұрын
Is it centrist or merely delusional to say a man can be a woman?
@JimmyKartounii
@JimmyKartounii Ай бұрын
gerrmany is far away from asia
@Rexident97
@Rexident97 Ай бұрын
F Labour
@john73353
@john73353 Ай бұрын
George Galloway for Prime Minister or Jeremy Corbyon to wonder people.
@moonshinesa8234
@moonshinesa8234 Ай бұрын
Like seeks like.
@aliyasystemritayossi524
@aliyasystemritayossi524 Ай бұрын
God help you all
@paulnicholls4791
@paulnicholls4791 Ай бұрын
Let's be right. Looking at your panel, your expect special treatment,
@jonnybingham1
@jonnybingham1 Ай бұрын
huh?
@LeeGee
@LeeGee Ай бұрын
I don't think she was commenting on this video.
@semsemeini7905
@semsemeini7905 Ай бұрын
Why because they complain of rampant Antisemitism?
@TD-cg7qh
@TD-cg7qh Ай бұрын
There was not a single mention of the suffering of the civilians of Gaza. No wonder public opinion in UK favors the Palestinian side
@Mar11932
@Mar11932 Ай бұрын
They don't. The majority of uk support Israel. Lots of data shows this. Not in far left groups though. All Corbynites polls were conducted by middle Eastern Eye!!
@vickycohn4586
@vickycohn4586 Ай бұрын
why should anyone care for the suffering of Nazis???
@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Ай бұрын
Second holocaust
@revamp777
@revamp777 Ай бұрын
Don't be foolish about the threat to Jewish people in the UK, Israel is a mighty power, Sense of moral Equivalence is repugnant.
@semsemeini7905
@semsemeini7905 Ай бұрын
Aopologists for antisemitism is repugnant.
@thomasmyers4089
@thomasmyers4089 Ай бұрын
Sorry, l have great respect for Corbyn. And sorry, if you want to reduce anti Semitic feelings in the country, stop the genocide in Palistine.
@CrystalJ7
@CrystalJ7 Ай бұрын
anti-semitism goes backs thousands of years!! nothing to do with so-called Palestine!
@benqurayza7872
@benqurayza7872 20 күн бұрын
What genocide?
@thomasmyers4089
@thomasmyers4089 20 күн бұрын
​@@benqurayza7872If you are going to play the 3 monkey syndrome, see no evil, hear no evil, you are also not supposed to speak no evil.
@DebbieMinzly-en2nb
@DebbieMinzly-en2nb Ай бұрын
I will never vote for for labour.
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