Michael Shellenberger: Exposing the censorship industrial complex

Michael Shellenberger: Exposing the censorship industrial complex | SpectatorTV

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Michael Shellenberger, Twitter Files journalist and founder of Public is in London to discuss the international censorship industrial complex. He explains to Winston how the complex web of government, big tech, intelligence and media collude to suppress speech in the UK, America and beyond.
Michael will be continuing the debate on the censorship industrial complex with Russell Brand and Matt Taibbi on Thursday 22nd June at Central Hall, Westminster. Get tickets here: www.musicglue.com/good-faith-...
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00:00 - Introduction
02:04 - What is the censorship industrial complex?
29:21 - What is behind the censorship industrial complex?
38:30 - Is Michael Shellenberger being censored right now?
47:35 - The state of free speech in the UK, and should governments be able to monitor our online activity?
01:00:56 - Inside the Twitter Files and Michael's experience of Elon Musk.
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@WhizzingFish12 Жыл бұрын

Shellenberger is one of the best examples of a liberal journalist whose eyes have been opened. I have immense respect for his integrity and wish we had many more like him.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

Like Glenn Greenwald, Michael is a straight-up reporter and news commentator.

@kathleen1685 Жыл бұрын

Why are they so slow about getting information out there?

@edwardburroughs1489 Жыл бұрын

@@kathleen1685 Isn't that what the whole interview is about? ;)

@kathleen1685 Жыл бұрын

@@edwardburroughs1489 No, regardless of what the press reports, common sense should have over-ridden that information.

@dande19 Жыл бұрын

@@kathleen1685when Facebook shadow bans a post like “patient zero from the Wuhan Institute of Virology” which he an Matt Taibbi published, it slows the dissemination of information.

@JohanThiart Жыл бұрын

The complicity of mainstream media is the real disappointment. Governments have always dabbled in this. In South Africa, during most of the apartheid period, it was no secret that conservative newspapers were on the government “payroll”. The lesson was that one should read all news stories as opinion.

@SuperSnickerS19of88 Жыл бұрын

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the host??! Asking all the right, thought provoking questions. Brilliant job 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@barryyoung Жыл бұрын

100% Ive made similar comments on other interviews. This is unbiased journalism at its very best. The BBC, Sky, GBnews etc… need to watch and learn…..

@marcusnz232 Жыл бұрын

Agreed although I hope his barber gets back from holiday soon.

@trainerdisability Жыл бұрын

@@marcusnz232😂

@nf6386 Жыл бұрын

If not for one Twitter post, he might never have tapped this skill set, just remained a highly successful musician.

@littleblacksambo8447 Жыл бұрын

@@barryyoung Yes! It is a whole world away from the BBC.

@-Gorbi- Жыл бұрын

Jim Baker should be in prison, as well as any other government agent suppressing citizens speech. Absolutely scum

@galaxytrio 11 ай бұрын

Plagued as it is by censorship, I am still grateful that youtube offers the possibility of seeing such high-quality interviews as this.

@StrawPerson-xq9ko 11 ай бұрын

Rumble. Ewetoobe will not age well.

@carrdoug99 Жыл бұрын

Huge fan of Michael Shellenberger! So glad to have seen this interview. He's one of the good ones.👍

@sueellerman7984 Жыл бұрын

Great talk, thanks guys. Free Speach; Free Press; Free Assange. Bring on the Free Speech Aliance.

@garyfrancis6193 Жыл бұрын

Speech

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

Silly, man! Assange put hundreds of lives at risk in our Security Services, how many have been, tortured and killed, no one knows.

@winniecash1654 11 ай бұрын

Free Assange 😢❤

@nickpoulsen9105 Жыл бұрын

When I first came to Africa back in 1983, I met an older Scottish guy who came from Southern Rhodesia, who told me that in SR, he listened to ALL the world service radio broadcasts from ALL the 'leading' countries on the right . . . on the left . . . and in the centre, and afterwards he would make up his OWN mind. I've pondered on this matter all these years and this decade has made me realise what sage advice this was, and I chose to follow it! If only people today could realise what real opportunities they have in life, rather than be slaves to the nonsense they chose to follow without making up their own minds! Ernie . . . RIP

@papalangiloi Жыл бұрын

Julian Assange remains in jail while the Pentagon papers principle goes unmentioned by legacy media in his case. History doesn't repeat but it rhymes.

@pattycappabianca9656 Жыл бұрын

On😮😮😮😅bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb😊j😊mmmmnnn😅

@alimay1011 Жыл бұрын

So true. Free Assange

@theway5563 11 ай бұрын

@@pattycappabianca9656 - So very juvenile.

@ianramage1593 Жыл бұрын

Kudos to Michael Shellenberger, Matt Taibbi and their colleagues who have the courage to speak up despite having their motives impugned and their characters besmirched by the organizations who are behind these efforts to stifle free speech and silence dissenting voices. The interviewer did an excellent job of asking probing questions and then letting his guest speak without interruption. Very well done!

@jmac3327 Жыл бұрын

All cowards. They know full well what the solution is, but cannot bring themselves to state it. Weiss is especially loathsome in this respect: a Janus faced harpy who parrots the party line, incapable of defending her position without exposing herself as an ignorant harridan (watch Joe Rogan with this vacuous creature).

@firebald2915 Жыл бұрын

World governments now know that We know. This is the new Battlefield. Cyberspace.

@erictroop8574 Жыл бұрын

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@erictroop8574 Жыл бұрын

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@shastacastor 11 ай бұрын

I bought Shellenberger’s book Apocalypse Never because he took an honest humanistic view on climate. I’m kind of surprised he still believed in our 5th pillars until recently but glad he’s seeing what’s happening now.

@robinmangum1646 11 ай бұрын

I am hopeful more and more people will care about censorship. Thank you for working to save free speech.

@zenocrate4040 Жыл бұрын

Superb discussion. Sobering and very disturbing stuff. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to go through these issues and make it apparent just how disturbing a lot of these actually are.

@manusha1349 Жыл бұрын

Shellenberger is the real deal, love his honesty and courage

@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын

Well he might be the real deal now. But he was still drinking the Kool Aid until quite recently, and years after some of us had woken up.

@awuma Жыл бұрын

@@fraserbailey6347 But that goes for so many of us...

@dirkvanschalkwyk1919 Жыл бұрын

@@fraserbailey6347Which is encouraging and a good thing , as I often wonder how to deradicalise, say trans-activists on observing their deranged public behaviour.

@jmac3327 Жыл бұрын

Courage? Yeah, right.

@elingrome5853 Жыл бұрын

@@jmac3327 eh?

@avallons8815 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic interview, fantastic guest, thank you

@clairetimberlake5892 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Everyone should hear this.

@carbonbasedunit3422 Жыл бұрын

Winston remains on top form. He has a gently forensic, patient manner which really works.

@lechenaultia5863 Жыл бұрын

At last.....someone with proper professional ethics who really knows his stuff ( all this information without notes!) and is fearless, interviewed by someone who has really done his research.

@davidleary5639 Жыл бұрын

Really good programme .

@adoptednuyorka Жыл бұрын

Excellent conversation 👍👏

@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын

Wow, what an outstanding discussion. A wealth of ground is covered here, and covered well. I’m sure this conversation will prove prophetic in coming years.

@Cotictimmy Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview. I have been horrified by the seeming new enthusiasm for censorship and enforced speech by supposedly democratic Western governments. I always expect to see totalitarianism & suppression of speech in Russia, China, & Iran, but NOT in the Western democracies.

@youtubeyoutube936 Жыл бұрын

And seemingly uninterest by many people who were/are liberals and the wokerati. I put it down to TDS and Brexit in anglosphere countries not sure why it’s the same elsewhere although TDS is also strong

@reefsroost696 Жыл бұрын

"Can't happen here". We have free speech because someone said that we have free speech.

@Lurlly Жыл бұрын

What you expect is a lie as well. Iran for instance used to be quite free until we introduced them them to western style "democracy". kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oa5yZaqLvM2wenk.html

@virginie7752 Жыл бұрын

Yet history has proven to us over and over again that totalitarianism comes from the left side of the political and philosophical spectrum. Communism, Nazism, Maoism, Fascism, etc. are all ideologically left-wing political movements. Yesterday as today the leftists have always had an ideological vision of the New Human, and to arrive at this New Human they have always been ready for all inhuman monstrosities. These psychopaths are convinced that they are on the side of good, so they have no qualms about eradicating, even physically, any challenge to good. In short, as long as the left has control over the narrative, and as long as you agree with the leftists they are for freedom of expression or freedom and Democracy, otherwise it is at best the gulag or the reform camps, at worst the execution post and the extermination camps. This is the sad reality that history teaches us.

@Think-dont-believe Жыл бұрын

@@reefsroost696well it says 4 replies but only 2 visible but they let them txt it they just won’t show it.. so that’s umm ok ,, let’s see if i’m allowed to be seen

@quentinquentin6752 Жыл бұрын

Watching this man an Matt Taibbi being attacked by democrats in congress was an eye opener for me. One has to ask what democracy do these “democrats” want? Perhaps it’s the North Korean kind of democracy!

@clementine9187 Жыл бұрын

Wow, incredible to see where Winston is now. Good for him!!!

@sarahl9209 Жыл бұрын

Shellenberger is part of the left that the left left movement. We keep growing in number. Thank God for outlets like the Spectator that put truth first!

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

...the left who left the left,... Thank God, we hardly ever hear from you, very, very good (🇬🇧). Let's go🌏🌎🌍

@reggosse3901 Жыл бұрын

It's not Trump derangement. The criminal government is upset that anyone has the gall to out their illegal and immoral behavior.

@janetstephens7762 Жыл бұрын

Michael Shellenberger is a national treasure.Thank you!

@wendys390 Жыл бұрын

An excellent interview, all the way around. Thank you so much.

@apemant 11 ай бұрын

I can hardly think of a topic that's more important at this moment in history, thank you.

@petersweeney5777 Жыл бұрын

Wow McCarthyism in different stripes…..excellent.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

I would like to point out that a Soviet operative highly placed in the U.S. State Dept., Algier Hiss, was exposed by Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-Wisc.). He wasn't the only USSR spy working in the U.S. government either. McCarthy is frequently associated with the HUAC hearings but the Senator never served in the House of Representatives. The NYT led the charge, however, in affiliating the House Un-American Activities Committee with Sen. McCarthy. In fact, the New York Times fielded quite the contingent of Russia-friendly reporters. After all, the Long March Through the Institutions had to begin somewhere!

@roygardiner2229 Жыл бұрын

Like many innocents, I suppose, I find that the World is increasingly becoming a very scary place. More positively, I was pleased to hear Michael Shellenberger advocate the benefits of nuclear energy. Regarding censorship, it has even found its way into the behaviour of teachers in schools. I really welcome Michael's comments about the encroachment on free speech.

@MrVvulf Жыл бұрын

When he was ignorant of the reality that nuclear power is safe and the MOST "green" energy source...he became an advocate. In his early days of journalism, he was a typical progressive, opposing it while willfully ignoring the shortcomings of wind, hydro, and solar power. But as you say, it does speak to his level of integrity that once he delved deeper and learned the facts, his stance changed. On the topic of censorship, and more dangerous still, self-censorship, it's immediately apparent when observing the behavior of people under 25. Most are terrified of having "wrong opinions" or saying something that will get them ostracized. The media and schools are creating generations of conformist sheep. Thankfully, some rebel against that. The courageous ones.

@ChollieD Жыл бұрын

I think it's an old power structure that is running scared. Elite control over the flow of information used to be so much more absolute. Now they're trying to turn every public-facing job into propaganda in a panic, because so many of us can just bathe in more complex conversations about the state of the world than we ever could before. We're growing up, becoming MORE sophisticated. So they've tried to purge dissidents (Greenwald, Weiss, Carlson, Taibbi, etc etc) who've been made freakin' RICH by support by folks like us. Anyway, I like our chances and am very optimistic long-term that the stories which don't calibrate to reality will eventually be known as false.

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

@@MrVvulf'm coming from sites where a lot responses are ~monosyllabic. I'll try to readjust my reactions. Commenters on here are serious and considered It is though hard to stay calm, in th shock and horror in the face of all that is happening. Your, self censored rang the bell for me. This is doubly, trebly, scary, people losing any courage or integrity, hm, they do not d a r e to think for themselves. I put this down to, I also put, the aberrational cognition, delusional then, of those in all the 'extreme movements', put these😅 down to endemics of 'mass mesmerisation'.

@G58 Жыл бұрын

This is all WEF Agenda 2030 policy. It’s been going on for years now. But I, like many others, thought it was just a distraction. I was wrong. These lunatics are actually serious. They need to be stopped.

@robaudi20v 10 ай бұрын

@@John-uh8klyour written English is utterly ghastly. Just a word salad that makes no sense. Congratulations 🎉

@johnmcarthur2948 Жыл бұрын

Most interesting and informative. Thanks.

@Seekthetruth3000 11 ай бұрын

Michael Shellenberger is a brave man. We need more people like him.

@lucyh4355 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. What really rang true for me was the unfortunate need to defend & justify free speech. My experience is that there are many adults who don't understand the very concept these days. It shouldn't be a political or moral issue where anyone's personal views interfere with their understanding of it's importance.

@ericjohnson9468 Жыл бұрын

BINGO!… well phrased…

@G58 Жыл бұрын

The much bigger problem is the need to defend not only the truth, but demonstrably obvious FACTS! Those facts are deemed something they call ‘mal-information’ - because it’s likely to cause the masses to question the official narratives. Could there be anything more Orwellian?

@DingodileinCahoots 11 ай бұрын

My dad is an retired intelligence officer. 9-11 and Homeland security is not the beginning of the government monitoring the public. It is just when they expanded the program. They have been doing it since the 60s.

@stevejhkhfda Жыл бұрын

Shellenberger is a proper dude

@robroy6072 11 ай бұрын

He's an idiot, 3 years behind

@arthurw8054 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, thank you.

@katelane8016 Жыл бұрын

Incredibly open and truthful conversation - we're not hearing on Legacy Media. Thank you!

@phillippotter6139 Жыл бұрын

I must say winston seems to now realise how bad the corruption/collusion and censorship really is. He used to come across very naive, so hats off to you pal 👍 keep up the good work

@matthewkeith8605 Жыл бұрын

I don’t see how we can recover from this. A large minority of the political spectrum is intolerant and ineducated, controls large and influential agencies and organisations in our societies, is very skilled and practiced at using them to subvert the public will and no intention of letting go. They are winning. We are fucked.

@AndyJarman Жыл бұрын

Let's see how Kelly Jay Keen gets in with Party of Women. Sumac has already admitted women don't have penises.

@alexdetrojan4534 8 ай бұрын

...for a long while I feel.

@AlanM97 11 ай бұрын

Super conversation laying plainly and succinctly for all to hear. Bravo Mr Shellenberger!

@idontknowyouthatsmypurse 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for having this very important discussion! It’s extremely discouraging that the people who need to hear this information the most are the people least likely to watch this.

@Gongers01 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview. Love your work man! Keep following your conscience and you’ll be just fine my darling😘❤️😘

@capecyn Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview! I have not seen your channel before it just came up in my feed. So glad I watched. 🏆

@chitskirits Жыл бұрын

I hope he and the journos from the Grayzone have a long and illustrious carrer. The Grayzone is one of the best US independent, objective, and truthful media platforms anywhere in the world I think it takes a lot of integrity to run the Grayzone. It's funny how disinformed and propagandised the Americans and the people in the West are, I grew up in a Socialist /Communist country and the first thing we were thought about the UK, and US history was that bankers and corporations own and run these countries, it took a massive worldwide financial crises in 2008 for the Americans and Westerners to understand this

@MrEnniscorthy Жыл бұрын

Truth matters. Lies have consequences.

@BN-hk6wf Жыл бұрын

Great to see The Spectator hosting this discussion. Puts the MSM to shame.

@cynthiasolomon885 11 ай бұрын

Great interview. Thank you, MS and MT fir your courage and truth telling

@NeurobrookeMD Жыл бұрын

My words only create harm when others are too emotionally unstable to handle a difference of opinion, which is their own issue.

@jayjaydubful Жыл бұрын

There is potential for words to lead to real harm, eg with rumour spreading, fear mongering, lying. But we have libel laws to address those

@NeurobrookeMD Жыл бұрын

@@jayjaydubful The harms created by censoring speech far outweigh protecting freedom of speech. People have been lying and saying nasty things since the beginning of time. It's only now the people are so weak and fragile that adults can't handle hurt feelings. We each have a personal responsibility to think about what we're hearing, vet the message and the source. Those who get whipped up into emotional outrage or become fear-stricken and reactive do so because they are allowing their emotions to lead rather than thinking critically. This is what it means to be emotionally unstable. Toddlers are led by emotions and we're living in an age where capable and healthy adults are choosing to live as toddlers. That's far more harmful than free speech, no matter how grotesque or misguided that speech may be. In a perfect world nobody would lie or say mean things but we don't live in a perfect world. We live in reality. In reality, censoring speech and attempts at thought-control are a far greater harm than allowing people to say ugly things.

@jayjaydubful Жыл бұрын

@@NeurobrookeMD I agree in principle. Just making the point that words can be used to thought control & propagandise, lie & mislead

@ullagg54 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview!

@pretendersrule1589 Жыл бұрын

Great show , I love this guy & the movement !!!!!

@pwcrabb5766 Жыл бұрын

Top tier presentation

@postscript5549 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to Schellenberger.

@NeurobrookeMD Жыл бұрын

Human beings should be free to hate whomever they want. Anything less is mind control and prohibiting hate will only breed frustration and worsening hostility. Let them speak their minds and get things off their chest rather than forcing them to fester in silence. Love is far more powerful than hate. We can handle hateful opinions. We're not idiots or children.

@AndyJarman Жыл бұрын

The whole idea is preposterous. Who can see into another's heart to judge what their motivations are? Justified hatred is to be welcomed, it shows there is someone with integrity parsing out the good from the bad, a sentient being.

@NeurobrookeMD Жыл бұрын

@@AndyJarman I disagree that hatred is good. In fact, I think it's dangerous, which is why Christians were warned against it and are called to love their enemies. But hate is a feeling and people are entitled to work out their own feelings in their own time and in their own way and they cannot do that if they're forced into silence. Those on the side of truth are not afraid of lies, which is why we're against censorship. It is only those who depend on lies that demand censorship because lies cannot stand up to scrutiny. Truth and goodness will always prevail--in time. But I agree that this idea of tolerating everything and everyone is total BS. They're trying to guilt us into immorality. If you don't like our obscene vulgar conduct then you're a bigot. Total nonsense.

@annabell3385 Жыл бұрын

There's a guy whose son, Daxton Borschart, was killed by a pit bull. He started an awareness groups about the dangers and had said that he hates them. Who wouldn't, right? Imagine your sweet baby having his head caved in by a dog! He was censored, stalked, harassed and relentlessly badgered by internet people making up rumors. They call him "racist." They love that buzzword. Somebody pointed out that it's "woke dog culture." I can verify the censorship because I joined a group in support of people unalived by these dogs (up by over 700 percent since 2009) and I was relentlessly harassed, too. I found out bots take part in the harassment of targets speaking out against ACTUAL hate. You seriously would not believe what is said to people who have their children torn apart. It's UNREAL.

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

I don't think we can say that. But it's not only true, well, they continue to hate regardless of what they say. Forgive me my trespassed, as I forgive yours. Unless you never stop, and cannot be stopped. Manufacture a whip, overturn their tables and get them out. Words to that effect,...

@deborahdean8867 Жыл бұрын

I agree. And most definitely the government should not try to suppress hate...... mostly because the government, nor AI , can recognize and manage hate. People argue all the time with open hostility and vicious words, and in 10 minutes forgive and/or reach an understanding. Better to have open hate than secret hate. Its mentally more healthy.

@IngeEvenwel Жыл бұрын

These issues might get even worse as Google not seeing the need to classify AI content VS human created content...Real VS Fake news or information is going to get even harder to classify 😮

@annabell3385 Жыл бұрын

I don't even bother with Google or Wikipedia anymore. Or Facebook.

@deborahdean8867 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Google needs to be ditched then. There are other search engines you know, and other social media sites, and the direct email from news sites you trust. You can get what you need without google or facebook.

@Hands2HealNow Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview.

@garyfrancis6193 Жыл бұрын

The pity is that the people who need most to see this will refuse to watch because they will think it’s hate speech. That’s because their minds have been so twisted that’s what they call the truth they don’t like.

@mariamichael1669 11 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. Michael clearly is a courageous individual standing up to the establishment can’t be easy. The world needs more Michael Shellenberger s now more then ever. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏

@mgocan6593 Жыл бұрын

It's an absolutely brilliant podcast. Some fascinating insights and thought provoking information. We're fortunate there are people like Michael prepared to stand their ground and push back to the censorship being perpetrated. It's chilling and hard to accept that our democracy isn't functioning well.

@hipnicity Жыл бұрын

The Republic is ailing for sure.

@peterforsythe3643 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Winston and Michael. Great convo!

@sarahday4658 Жыл бұрын

Excellent interview! 🙏👏

@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын

Nothing new here for those who have been paying attention over the last few years. That said, I was surprised to learn that, in 2020, Michael believed the mainstream media lies about the laptop. I really thought he had woken up by that point. It's a big problem when people like me are years ahead of even good writers and decent people like Michael.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

Developing patience requires LOTS of patience. When you can see a person is good and lovely and intelligent you just have to decide to be patient and hope for the best.

@martineyoung3446 Жыл бұрын

😊

@jessicajensen1976 11 ай бұрын

Covid woke up a lot of us. Democrats have been so propagandized

@darkmaitri 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Winston, for having Michael Shellenberger on the podcast. He has reminded me of how invigorated I felt as a teenager when I felt outrage at an injustice. It wasn't the kind of outrage that wanted to cancel someone. Instead it was an outrage that wanted to create in the form of poetry or art that 'said' something. I know as a person who has gone through higher education now that art produced to communicate a message isn't as 'pure' as art for art's sake (sigh!). But we must admit we are humans in this place, in this time that has certain demands of us all. And how we choose to respond to such demands makes all the difference in how make meaning of our world. My point is while we may feel a certain way, what we do with it can have lasting effects. I found by paying closer attention, being mindful of what I felt, I could discern layers of feeling that wanted different things. The one I most valued was one that compelled me to produce art. Mr. Shellenberger reminded me of the first times I felt that and alive it made me feel and connected to my world.

@roseosterndorf1265 Жыл бұрын

James Madison’s influence crafting the Bill of Rights to the US Constitution cannot go without mentioning how important he felt the first amendment was in terms of freedom of thought. If one cannot say what one thinks, worship God as one sees fit, petition the government for redress and assemble with like-minded people, then one is not a free citizen. It is a shame that most of the press is an arm of the DNC instead of holding government elected and unelected officials accountable to the citizens.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

And the Second Amendment which prevents the government from removing our ability to defend ourselves.

@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын

@@katybell9612indeed

@galaxxy09 Жыл бұрын

39:54 very interesting to see him talk about this, especially whats happening with Rogans invite to Hotez to debate RFK Jr.

@IngeEvenwel Жыл бұрын

Yeah journalists should have each other's back first and foremost.... If journalists / reputable news agencies not going to print truth who will then

@fraserbailey6347 Жыл бұрын

They have long ceased to be 'reputable news agencies'. If you still think the MSM and the main news agencies etc are 'reputable;, there is no hope for you.

@donaldnavatto9890 Жыл бұрын

That was one of the most interesting and informative interview I have heard in a long time. Thank you.

@databang Жыл бұрын

Brilliant interview. Thank you very much!

@ArchdukeAnderson Жыл бұрын

Shellenberger is one of the best.

@pascalbercker7487 Жыл бұрын

A minor slip. Winston got mixed up between John Stuart Mill (author of 'On Liberty') and John Milton, the author of "Areopagitica", and came up with "John Mill". The iconic defense of free speech, "On Liberty" by Johyn Stuart Mill, is what lept to my mind. Great conversation.

@merryl55 Жыл бұрын

I got BANNED numerous times from Facebook for posting information on the Frontline Doctors.

@martinp1544 11 ай бұрын

Awesome interview! Winston & Michael, THANKS!

@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын

Losing free speech would be a nightmare

@alexdetrojan4534 8 ай бұрын

We're close...

@k54dhKJFGiht Жыл бұрын

We're going to have a lot of fun trying to contain this abuse! This will take years and years to fix.

@George-vf7ss Жыл бұрын

It will never get fixed. It's just starting.

@jasonhenn7345 Жыл бұрын

Same in Canada

@wendys390 Жыл бұрын

The reason for Trump's victory was that he told the truth, and we are sick of liars.

@daviru02 11 ай бұрын

I honestly don't think Trump is that moral of a person, but he does have two things going for him which I like. 1) The Left (and Soros) hates his guts. 2) He loves America. Sure he's egotistical, but who isn't in politics? This is one politician who actually does love this country because it's his bread and butter.

@winniecash1654 11 ай бұрын

Yes.

@rhondabenedict5284 Ай бұрын

💯 And Trump wasn't a politician, and has genuine love for the UnitedStates....🇺🇸

@joelfildes5544 Жыл бұрын

Bumford and Sons censored him out of the band…how did that work out for ya fellas ! Good work Winston…keep it up.

@annbrucepineda8093 Жыл бұрын

Great interview!

@annabell3385 Жыл бұрын

The United Nations are not on the side of ordinary people.

@LJInnes 11 ай бұрын

I find his courage inspiring which is odd since he’s simply telling the truth ❤

@mehcol Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the UK M.S. much appreciated to our rainy Mary Poppins Land

@bar10ml44 Жыл бұрын

I think suggesting that journalists maybe waking up doesn’t work for me. The silence from the plastic mouthpieces that call themselves journalists over Mr Snowden and Mr Assange and the way truth tellers are treated should be enough to demonstrate that the cess pit is never going to be cleaned.

@TimedNonTides 11 ай бұрын

Our Govt has gone fascist, controlling corporations, forcing censorship, lockdowns, etc...

@kathyirwin5518 Жыл бұрын

Whenever you hear Russia blamed for something you should laugh.

@bernardedwards8461 Жыл бұрын

My experience with social media tells me that 'terms of servicw' are anyhing they choose to say they are, so videos and comments are cancelled capriciously and on a whim if a censor suspects the author is not singing from the right hymn sheet. Even life saving information will be cancelled if ths censors dont like it, Dr John Campbell's videos for example. No reason is given.

@annbrucepineda8093 Жыл бұрын

Love Dr.John Campbell. He kept me sane during covid mania.

@markanderson3376 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting discussion. All of this is very disturbing and the citizenry should be demanding accountability from governments and corporations.

@alexdetrojan4534 8 ай бұрын

They can demand all they want...govts will not pay attention to them. Govts are for themselves not their citizens.

@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын

Michael is a hero man.

@michaelmacdonald2907 11 ай бұрын

When someone says something, you have to line the words up along with their meaning to understand what they are saying. You have to believe them before you can disbelieve them. If you're tired, honest, distracted, or they're talking fast, the disbelief, the reasoning, never happens.

@seekerout Жыл бұрын

It wasn't just the UK and US governments flagging content. We now know the Australian anti-terrorism unit in the department of Home Affairs was doing it too. I find it remarkable that they all used exactly the same methods for censoring their citizens and the same justification - they were only drawing attention to the platform's own terms of service. I begin to wonder how much help the social media platforms have had in drafting their community guidelines (which are also suspiciously similar to one another).

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

This is 🌍🌎🌏, I'm from GB. Hello Australia. Struth, to when we, England, hear what's happening just in Scotland and Ireland, we shudder. Possible, although everything has the appearance, of moving exponentially towards utter madness, as they discuss, hate increasing, I don't think it is,... ..., I could be wrong,.. ..., what I think does increase is submissiveness, subservience 'extreme movements',... ..., inability to, or choosing not to,... think. A dumb cloning, what words,???

@seekerout Жыл бұрын

@@John-uh8kl Hello GB. You're right about it being global and I was glad to hear Michael Schellenberger say that he and his team are reaching out to connect with the Brits. The only way we can win this war on the West is by doing what the enemy does - working in concert. And that means everyone affected by these attacks on freedom, whether you be in the UK or on the other side of the planet like me.

@John-uh8kl Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 100%. And no one can really afford to rest, we, global, must exert our influence, everything depends on that.

@danivasquez2441 11 ай бұрын

This interviewer did his homework! Great job

@justinreilly1 11 ай бұрын

Keep going Schellenberger!!

@nicoledickens2366 Жыл бұрын

45:45 it really does break your heart. Your voice cracks with sadness combined with the patriotic hand over hear gesture...it makes my stomach drop.

@alimay1011 Жыл бұрын

First they came for Assange....we must save him. He warned us and I think it is not surprising they took him in April 2019 before the covid psyop. FreeJulianAssange

@annbrucepineda8093 Жыл бұрын

Pardon Snowden, too.

@jonathanpersson1205 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for standing up for freedom of speech, this has been one of the cornerstones of progress in western civilisation. Interesting that Jacinda Ardern has found a job doing censorship for Harvard University, Im just glad she is no longer here in New Zealand. We were all sick of her lies and manipulation. She was really good at leading the country in a few instances but she became corrupted by power far to quickly. She oversaw the worst government NZ has ever had.

@ellengran6814 Жыл бұрын

Was there ever really freedom of speech in the West ? My sister was a communist back in the 1960s in Norway. Police followed her whereever she went, she got death threats in her mail. I would argue a real democracy should have the courage to discuss ALL kind of political ideas.

@George-vf7ss Жыл бұрын

@@ellengran6814Is she still a communist?

@deniseforsythe8965 Жыл бұрын

@@ellengran6814 communists actually declared loyalty to Russia which maybe puts it in a different category when a citizen declares loyalty to a foreign power who wishes to overthrow the government

@ellengran6814 Жыл бұрын

@@deniseforsythe8965 The Norwegian communist party was the only Norwegian political party fighting nazi Germany when Norway was occupied 1940-45 = The communists was the only party really loyal to a souvereign Norway. History tells us capitalists are loyal to their money = when trouble comes (wars) they take their money and move to another country. Communists stay and fight for their land/country.

@denisegore1884 Жыл бұрын

Remember how many overseas people wished she were their country's leader during covid? The corruption goes back a lot further than that. Remember the winebox inquiry of the 90s? What were the penalties for that? None.

@kathleen1685 Жыл бұрын

I came here from watching the short. I was shocked as to how long it has taken these people to wake-up as to what has been going on. I thought the the first stories about the first victims came out in late 2019.

@charlesbyrd6055 Жыл бұрын

It’s funny to watch, moderates and reasonable liberals talk about this because serious traditionalists have dealt with this sort of bias across the information and entertainment institutions of America for generations. This is nothing new it’s just gotten pervasive

@paulinewestell4123 Жыл бұрын

Surely character assassination is slander, therefore can be prosecuted?

@N_Harkin 11 ай бұрын

Tying this to the 9&11 years is an important study. Same ppl pulling the strings all this time.

@timfallon8226 Жыл бұрын

I'm worried about climate change, it gets cold each year and people die if energy is too expensive because of renewables not working.

@ijejlnfzzdfar7540 Жыл бұрын

When a country is taken over by another, the first things to go are freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. USA never experienced an invasion and UK had one almost a thousands of years ago. This is why, I suspect, people on these two countries do not fully realize the danger of being depraved of these rights.

@laogong52 Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I'm sure the Native Americans wouldn't agree that the continent has never experienced an invasion.

@mikepj67 Жыл бұрын

@@laogong52 thank you

@geoffreynhill2833 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Perhaps The Spectator could also put a brick through the "Overton Window"? 🤔 (Green Fire UK)

@geoffreynhill2833 Жыл бұрын

PS: In case fellow Spectator fans haven't already got the buzz, the latest on the Jan 6 pro-Trump demonstrators is that a great many were CIA. (I am not a bot.)