In 774 matches, Phil Taylor’s lifetime average is 101.28 That is insane

MVG is talking about Taylor the man, not Taylor the player. We all know he's not the best guy in the world

MVG choking up saying he was partly the reason Phil retired, clearly a huge amount of respect there.

Phil Taylor had the greatest belief in himself. His nerve was rock solid. I’d be watching his games freaking out under the pressure of the intense moments. When he was winning he was ruthless and when he was behind he was angry but calm. The way he stacked his darts gave him an advantage over everyone which he was happy to take over and over again. No one could match his consistency long term without stacking the darts in the same way.

Taylor has a far superior head to head record to mvg despite the fact they're rivalry came at end of Taylors career, taylor won all matches at world championship and peak taylor of 09 to 11 had a higher average than mvg from 15 to 17. Not to mention that van gerwen is 13 world titles behind taylor

There is no way this fella is 16!

MVG is not dominating darts with no stand out players. Don’t think Taylor is jealous of someone way back on 3 World Titles!!

Personally i think taylor is the greatest player of all time his consistency was just unmatched he could just maintain levels only other players dreamed of. Van gerwen has the ability to take a game away in 15 minutes with bursts, but factor in the dedication of taylor to stay at the top for 30 years almost he was relentless in darts was his life in which van gerwen is now finding tough to maintain after 10/11 years at the top. They are both unbelievable player but taylors consistency and longevity should put at the top that's without mentioning 16 world titles and 16 matchplays the sheer desire to be and maintain being the best for so long is incredible

I think they're both incredible. I really can't choose between those 2. I'm pretty sure Phil and Michael would play for spot 1 and 2 if they started at the same age in this era.

I've still got an early 2000's newspaper article somewhere explaining the methods to Phil Taylor's great success. This was to stack the darts vertically, one on top of the other, inside the centre of the treble twenty. All very neat and tidy, also printed with a matching diagram to illustrate how it's done!

MVG sums up Taylor perfectly -- the greatest darts player of all time but a deplorable human being...

I hate when folks say ‘Phil’s competition wasn’t so good’ doesn’t matter, his averages in tournaments and finals was exceptional

Mvg bragging about putting Taylor on the floor when he’s in his mid twenties and Taylor in his 50’s. Yeah well done mate 👍🏻.

We're not talking about Phil Taylor personality, should be judging his ability and that's undisputed greatest darts player of all time.

Is there a full episode of this ?

Watching Phil Taylor growing up was incredible, it seemed like Barney was the only one who could ever get somewhat close to beating him but he truly dominated his era. I will always respect him for that. I can't help but think he did have some unnecessary arrogance in his personality though, having heard similar words from a few people now inc MVG & Wayne Mardle who both come across as decent blokes.

In a footballing analogy Taylor is Liverpool and Gerwen is Blackpool.x

I really like Michael but I find it weird how he seems to think he retired him, he was old, it is part of life lol.

Crediting himself with being the reason Taylor retired is a bit rich. Taylor retired because he was getting older and his results were starting to slip. It would have happened at a similar time with or without Van Gerwen imo

Cannot believe these comments. I see it with all sports, the moment a Legend retires they were no good and the competition was poor. Taylor was literally the most dominant sports star ever. He was the standard. MVG also never met Taylor in his prime, luckily for MVG

Greatest darts 🎯 podcast interview of all time this one 🤣 Well done boys 👏

If it wasn't for phil these guys wouldn't make the money they do,show respect

Lads, the sound quality! How long have you been doing these episodes now?

Nice, honest interview from M.V.G. there. Others would do well to learn from this.

Van gerwin sounds like one of those kidnappers in Hollywood films who sends a disguised voice ransom demand!!

Last time they played in a major, taylor smashed him

MVG is good but lets face it Phil concentrated solely on darts whilst MVG made several "Shrek" movies on the side.

MvG was amazing until he became successful. Taylor was amazing for 30yrs. Different levels.

the only thing that beat Phil Taylor was old age

His last game was the world final and he won a major that year.

I love this Bond villain.

phil taylor 30 plus years of extremely high standard, not mentioning 16 world titles, and still playing the incredibly high standard into his 50's. MVG playing no where near his best now in his 30's. A bit like steve davis and stephen hendry in snooker played awesome upto their mid 30's then dropped off, but ronnie o' sullivan on the other hand still playing incredibly high standard coming upto 50 years old. Phil taylor and ronnie o'sullivan are the exceptions in their sports.

I don’t like Taylor ,but Gerwin would have to play til he’s 80 to equal him

There are some great players around at the moment, but Phil Taylor on his A game would beat the lot of them.

You could probably add everyone else's championships together and Phil Taylor still has more. There's absolutely no comparison.

Brilliant as ever

Wow the lack of respect for the goat,Taylor took the game to another level,this guy will never match him,prime taylor batters him.

Taylor has 16 world titles. Enough said.

the thing today in most sports is that all players on any day can beat anyone , sure a few stand out a tad more but over all i think the caliber of all players now will prevent anyone one player dominating a long time , as their all capable ..time will tell but littler looks set to do major damage a long time , time will tell

I would disagree with him saying he made Phil retire early. I think he lengthened it 2 or 3 years due to their rivalry

Sounds like a Dutch Frank Bruno to be fair "he he he Harry"

Funny thing. . .if Phil was sitting with them there, I don't think Shrek would be so loose with his words.

5:34 that reaction LMAO

3:29 ...anyone know what video they talking about please?

If Phil was young coming through now at 17 having played for years before like mvg he be pushing averages over 120 regularly.Age fitness eyesight caught up with him last 5 years still one of the best when retirement at 58.

phil is the greatest of all time. but has here ever be a season like that of MVG in 2017? i never seen anyone throwing that good in 1 year.

Michael is one of the best ever but there is only one Phil 'the Powe'r Taylor. The greatest ever by far and I can't see anybody ever being that good again

give taylor his due look at his blackpool record over 100 average last time he played there every game

I really like MVG but he is not on the same level as Phil Taylor, just look at Phil’s record, no one has come anywhere near it. Just one example Phil Taylor achieved two 9 darters in one game that is insane.

In Taylor his days,almost nobody could throw 95+ averages,look at the level these days..

the irony watching this now hearing him say "look how happy he was to beat me, I was only a kid" when this is exactly how he reacts to beating luke littler.😂😅

I have never heard MVG talk until now and he needs subtitles to follow him around in life

No doubt the players of today if they were in Taylors era he would not have won as many world championships, but that is true of all records. Players get better and so does the competition.

Taylor at his best beats everyone even today.

i can't think of anyone who stayed at the top of his game in any sport for as long as phil did, and even at the end of his career when on the decline was still often heads above most others. MVG is my fav player atm, but he's still a long way to go to achieve what phil did.

Phil Taylor once stole my swimming shorts! True story!

I love that micheal does not care about what other people think. He says what he wants, almost no one does that these days.

I agree with mvg Taylor is the greatest mvg is maybe the best. One thing I've just thought is often in darts players will rise or drop to their opponent, for Phil to keep that level against 'blokes from the pub'was so impressive and to see him in the game now at his peak would be great to see and I think he would be on par with all the top4 on the game rn

First thing i do is have a piss 😂 MVG doesn't care one bit does he. I would love to meet the guy. He's a top bloke

Time will tell ! I played 3 weeks ago with a guy that Chris Dobey could never beat ? He said he would beat him now cos he's got on telly n has more experience and he is younger!! Before Dobey advanced, he could never beat him tho Taylor was the best since Bristow etc

Taylor is the guvnor. 16 times world champ, 2 9 darters in one match. Going 2 years without losing a match, beating rvb, priestly, mvg, ect, no one will ever match his record, and the match against Lewis at the grand slam in 13 was the best match iv ever seen, 113 vs 110 long format crazy. Players can match that now but only in patches not through a long match. And dart boards are generous these days, the trebles are bigger hence why the higher averages.

"Is phil taylor resentful of your career?" Absolutely not 😂

As a darts player there is no doubt Phil is the greatest for the longevity and success. Not just worlds but the number of Matchplays, Grand Prix and Open amongst everything else will never be rivalled. I get the argument he had the likes of manley, painter etc on toast and yes he would win no where near as much but he would still have won more than the rest including MVG if starting in the same era. He only started to wane in the later years and even then still made finals etc and won so it's unquestioned. MVG may have set a standard for 3 year but the power would have found a way and he may not have won as much either its not all one way.

Taylor is the POWER, always was and always will be…

Taylor best ever player and nobody will reign for as long as that man did love him or hate him if your a real darts fan you can’t even deny him that

I think mvg is great but phil taylor is the best darts player ever and I think at that that champions night they shouldn't of let him take on that much, and for me if you a big darts fan you cant slate taylor 👍🏻

I haven’t watched the full podcast so idk whether it’s like this the whole time but it’s a bit weird watching a great darts player of recent years and two podcasters talking down on the best player of all time😂

Barney also doesn’t get enough credit because he entered the PDC and beat the best player on the planet on his first PDC championship to win the final

I love all the comments saying that Phil had no competition, unless you were there/saw a lot of it close up, you can’t appreciate rolling up at top competitions with fantastic professional players performing at high level only to have someone incredible completely outclass them , hence the decades of the ‘powers’ fear factor playing at unbelievable levels. MVG had that for about 4- 5 years but it is no more and will likely not be again because he just hasn’t sustained the levels, he himself achieved . In PT I watched an incredible performer for 20 + years winning everything, bringing crowds & pubs to standstill to watch his incredible feats, ruining people before the game had started ( I played, won Against and spoke to the world no 2 at the time on this and he was lost for an explanation as he worked just as hard). Don't forget what PT HAS achieved just because time has passed. PTPT would kick everyone’s butt just the same in this era if he was the same age. MVG seems bitter because he knows he cannot achieve the same if he had 10 lifetimes and cannot dominate against his hard working peers. Sometimes you just have to admit when someone truly great and superior at their chosen profession comes along.

Mvg doesn't come close to a prime Taylor 👊🏆

16 World Titles. End of discussion

Phil Taylor 🐐 End of conversation.

Of course Phil Taylor is the greatest darts player of all time. The trophies state this!

Phil is the best also. The quality of the boards and all related equipment has to be taken into account. But even without that, his tournament averages are .... ahem, phenomenal

I can some points of mvg and others I'm going well I think you may understand that some day when your not the top dog. Heck Taylor final year he won again at the matchplay and made the final of the world's that is actually ridiculous but shows how good he was, maybe mvg will understand when his game weakens and he loses more as its hard coming from a point when your at your best to not being the best you are anymore.

Phil Taylor's biggest fan was always Phil Taylor!

Taylor’s success will never be eclipsed. He was a manufactured talent, so consistent and could demoralise opponents. When MVG really hit the scene in 2012 I knew he’d be the only player to rival Phil and their statistics are very close on the oche re scoring, averages, finishing etc - albeit Phil’s achievements are light years ahead of anyone including Mike. The way I see it is had they both been playing in their prime at the same time that they’d likely be participating against each other in the majority of finals. Because Phil could raise his game like a wounded animal and Mike does so similarly. When Phil avenged his loss to Barney 7-1 he was unplayable. Even Mike at his best might have struggled. Mike can win a set checking out in 10 - 11 darts with ease but then disappear. Where as Phil’s consistency of 12 darts finishes but every set were what players struggled to cope with. I guess we will never know. But Phil will always be the greatest player to grace the oche. And I guess it’s probably a good thing they both didn’t perform at their peaks at respective time because the other players might have struggled to dethrone either. Reason being is both Phil and Mike are fiercely competitive to the extent that they’d be looking to improve all the time merely in case they collide with one another! Massive respect to both of them and I love darts in general. Best of luck to both Luke’s tonight, should be absolutely epic!

Couldn’t lace Phil’s boots, let’s see him get anywhere near Phil’s record

I got told mvg was trying it on with bar staff at Barnsley metronome

Not gunna lie he looks and sounds like a bond villain

phil is a darts god mvg will never reach his heights

Mvg is such a joker you gotta love him

No one spoke like this when Phil was in his prime . Easy to say now

When mvg is that old, there well be a similar interview about mvg and jtll be littler bein interviewed

You never beat the Powers record ...GOAT

MVG vs PT both at their peak. MVG quickly realises he’s got to move back to Holland and open a weed cafe 🤣🤣

Massive Phil Taylor fan but he was a bit of prick but there is no doubt he is the best and greatest of all time. The power beat him every time at the worlds

Always remember the m.v.g tears on stage, after a taylor masterclass on him . Now thats brutal but no mention .

Can't believe nobody ever sparked Taylor out. He's an absolute helmet.

Michael, you have a problem, there is a 16 year old kid coming for you,

MGV is a great darts player. Phil Taylor, whatever u think of him as a person, is the greatest darts player of all time. Fact! Though i wud argue, that John Lowe is the most popular darts player of all time.

mvg is genuine speaks his mind and you take it or leave it , he gives zero f#ks which i respect , i rather open honesty instead of fake pretense . good bloke

Taylor the player = Great. Taylor the person = Not Great. Simples 👍

There is no doubt phil Taylor is the greatest darts player of all time . Happy hour show some respect.

Accused of rape, cheated on his wife, abandoned his children, had his MBE took off him as well

Phil doesn't win 17 world championships or however many it is against todays competition.

Unfortunately your mouth can't beat Taylor's record.....

MVGs Peak was something else

Have met both in public! Taylor was way more approachable than Shrek!

Taylor the classyist player to ever throw a dart and the most honest period mvg ain’t nothing up to Phil get some respect and mvg ain’t what he was.