Michael Westmore Discusses the Cardassian Makeup Creation For Star Trek: The Next Generation

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William Forsche

10 жыл бұрын

Michael Westmore discusses special effects make-up and shows the creation and application of the "Cardassian" makeup created for Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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@TroutBoneless
@TroutBoneless 4 жыл бұрын
i never got the feeling that the cardassians were slimy, vaguely reptilian yes, but i never felt like they would feel slimy to the touch. i always imagined their skin would feel more cartilaginous, like a thick rough skin
@j-4691
@j-4691 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even call them reptilian since they have hair, give birth, have warm blood (despite preferring hot temperatures), and have a primate like body. Their scales always reminded me more of an armadillo or a pangolin rather than scales of a snake or lizard.
@TroutBoneless
@TroutBoneless 4 жыл бұрын
@@j-4691 yes, exactly, that's the type of skin i was thinking of, and good point about them clearly not being reptilian
@ashcrimp
@ashcrimp 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not anti cgi, but man, this is something I miss. Practical effects that look just as good in behind the scenes stuff as on TV.
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Жыл бұрын
Seen lots of comments that the Cardassian is Marc Alaimo as Gul Dukat. That is not Marc Alaimo. That is Mark Major, he plays various background characters. His big on-screen moment is in the episode Cardassia joins the Dominion ("By Inferno's Light," Season 5) with Garak in the prison camp with Worf, Bashir, Martok. When all Cardassian prisoners come forward and are told Cardassia joined the Dominion, he and Garak exchange bewildered glances.
@willm9514
@willm9514 4 жыл бұрын
I love the last shot of the Klingons discussing Humphrey Bogart with a Cardassian
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx 5 жыл бұрын
I have always LOVED the Cardassian design, one of the best looking (and well written) alien races in the franchise
@trilobite2500
@trilobite2500 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. They are awesome
@rarararangaro
@rarararangaro 3 жыл бұрын
I’d recognize that neck anywhere, but they definitely reworked Gul Dukat’s look quite a bit after this presumable prototype!
@judyhopps9380
@judyhopps9380 10 жыл бұрын
I love cardassians. My favourite race. This was incredible and informative to watch. Thanks for uploading
@devonike
@devonike 10 жыл бұрын
The women are hot.
@spitfiregirl110
@spitfiregirl110 7 жыл бұрын
The men are even hotter!
@richardturner6981
@richardturner6981 4 жыл бұрын
@ Judy Hopps: Qark is my favorite character. Can you imagine him riding down the highway on a motorcycle? The wind would catch his ears and push his head back. LOL.
@martynbooth6775
@martynbooth6775 2 жыл бұрын
i second that, i love it.
@davidwit7749
@davidwit7749 6 жыл бұрын
2:10 "Always leave the eyes and always leave the mouth if you want the actor to emote". A lesson forgotten with ST: Discovery and the rubbery mumble orcs they call Klingons.
@philipdefibaugh7127
@philipdefibaugh7127 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a piece on the Hollywood reporter where they "made up" a reporter as a "Klingon" but was it done the right way with appliances......NO the makeup artist simply put a mask on the reporter's head. I don't even think the area around the reporter's eyes were colored in to blend in with the mask. Micheal Westmore needs to return to the Trek universe.
@toooes
@toooes 4 жыл бұрын
Odo would like a word with you
@michaeldougherty6036
@michaeldougherty6036 4 жыл бұрын
@@toooes Except Odo was meant to have a lack emotion on his face, with the exception of his "bedroom eyes".
@PtsbrgVA
@PtsbrgVA 8 жыл бұрын
Michael Westmore talented man. I wish I could find more like this.
@ronansullivan432
@ronansullivan432 2 жыл бұрын
and a great supervisor.
@john24109
@john24109 7 жыл бұрын
"VULCANise the rubber"
@tacticalderpy2077
@tacticalderpy2077 6 жыл бұрын
John K live long and prosthetic
@ronaldtheant
@ronaldtheant 6 жыл бұрын
John *vulcanise
@MacTechG4
@MacTechG4 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds logical to me...
@WhoWantsToKnow81
@WhoWantsToKnow81 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@saturiankhazard
@saturiankhazard 5 жыл бұрын
Cardassian and Klingons hanging-out together? Must be far into the future... ;)
@jackyack7850
@jackyack7850 6 ай бұрын
15 hours of makeup! Did they have to then go and shoot the same day? Thanks to the cast for providing us hours of quality work.
@StormsongK
@StormsongK 8 жыл бұрын
Look at all that shading that doesn't show on camera! Lovely!
@86am
@86am 7 жыл бұрын
"Always leave the eyes if you want the actor to emote." Yet Georgi gets a massive visor.
@Phantom-hy2ix
@Phantom-hy2ix 7 жыл бұрын
86am Geordie ;)
@burgersbeansandchips
@burgersbeansandchips 6 жыл бұрын
Because he was blind.
@diggymgee
@diggymgee 6 жыл бұрын
Frank, "Always leave the eyes"
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 6 жыл бұрын
His eyebrows were at least visible above the visor, which allowed him to emote more than those who have their brows completely covered.
@diggymgee
@diggymgee 6 жыл бұрын
Jane, "Always leave the eyes"
@kevinpatzer4678
@kevinpatzer4678 3 жыл бұрын
Little known fact, vulcanizing rubber is actually a process given to us from the vulcans 🖖😄
@JeroenDStout
@JeroenDStout 2 жыл бұрын
Vulkans just made first contact with Earth to increase their rubber exports
@SJHFoto
@SJHFoto 8 ай бұрын
Sorry-I didn't mean to steal your joke
@Cozetta-e5k
@Cozetta-e5k 9 жыл бұрын
Hu-ha! I recorded this from off of T.V. when it came on years ago before one of the Star Trek episodes was about to come on.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely cool! I feel like a lot of these respected specialty trades are fading away and fading fast
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Cardassians are awesome :D
@april-kn2vr
@april-kn2vr 4 жыл бұрын
god this looks like the best job ever
@Phantom-hy2ix
@Phantom-hy2ix 7 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to try and make a Klingon mask. One day when I have the spare time and money, I will do it :)
@philipdefibaugh7127
@philipdefibaugh7127 5 жыл бұрын
I have made both a Klingon and a Romulan forehead appliance. Both are worth the time and effort. I want to try my hand at doing a Ferengi head. There is nothing more satisfying to my ears than the sound of latex being peeled away from a mold.
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been 4 years. Have you made your mask yet?
@Herowebcomics
@Herowebcomics Жыл бұрын
Omg! This is awesome!
@ritualpenguin
@ritualpenguin 7 жыл бұрын
So I search for Michael Westmore on The next Gen, and I end up back at William Forsche! Thanks dude!
@martynbooth6775
@martynbooth6775 2 жыл бұрын
look amazing, im love cardassian race and look hard make-up on 1 cardassian person. wow.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Joseph Alaimo, who played Dukat on DS9 (and was also on TNG as various characters) absolutely hated his make up process, but he ended up being one of the most memorable character villains in all of Star Trek. He first appeared as a Cardassian in an earlier episode of TNG and wore the most ridiculous "helmet" you've ever seen. I'm glad they stopped using that as part of their costume: images.app.goo.gl/r84GKuudWi9BfiPH6 (as Gul Macet). You can see he sported a weird reverse goatee in that one, too.
@Howyaduing
@Howyaduing 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the whole costume definitely need an update glad they went with the dark, cold and intimidating look
@JonnySublime
@JonnySublime 3 жыл бұрын
They wrote Du'Kat so beautifully. Batshit crazy and evil and just wants people to like him 😂
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonnySublime Have you seen the "What We Left Behind" DS9 documentary? It's excellent and Michael talks about how he didn't feel appreciated because the producers never told him what a great job he was doing. But the head writer, Ira Behr said, basically, "Sorry about that, but we kept writing you into the show BECAUSE we loved what you were doing!" (me: They _SHOULD_ have definitely told him how well he was doing, in my opinion. He and Garak (Andrew Robinson) were my favorite characters on the show.) You can watch it for free with commercials on KZfaq (or no commercials if you have AdBlocker installed!). You can watch it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r66Zq7pqtbLXcZc.html and you can get the AdBlocker extension from the Google Chrome store here: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg It's probably also available for other browsers, or there are other extensions for other browsers that do the same thing. I haven't had an ad on a KZfaq video for at least 3 years!
@JonnySublime
@JonnySublime 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustWasted3HoursHere working my way through it, cheers!
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonnySublime Let me know how you like it. Very well done. I think a _Voyager_ documentary is next.
@thevintagekitty
@thevintagekitty 5 жыл бұрын
true artistry
@joegrimes9232
@joegrimes9232 3 жыл бұрын
There was a book came out years ago that had all the Star Trek Makeup and some props. I lost it about 15 years ago. But one part stuck, because I was obssessed with the Borg, was how they pulled it off. Well I remembered the book and as an ol' Goth, I remembered the part he talked about drawing on the black veins and tendrils unger the skin first heavily. Then just stipple over in the grey/white everywhere. But dont go mad. The lines look like they're under the skin. I did this for a girlfriend's daughter for halloween. I wanted full black contacts, but well it'd be cruel as she was only bout 9. She had vampire teeth so I kept giving her liqourice and she looked like the penguin lol. She scared the "S***" outta everyone. I was like "Thanks Mr Westmore and Star Trek" She didn't win the costume competition unfortunately. Prob gave her the runs after the Liqourice but WORTH IT. ( It was meant to look like the Ring kinda thing. Little girl, hair draped over straggly and ghostly, demonic infected visage I think I went too far as the other Kids looked like.. Well kids in makeup playing dressup) The World Book day is a thing in the UK. Me and the then partner's daughter had a few funny ideas about Rhald Dhal, but it never came to be lol. Michael Westmore. I salute for making my early twenties fun a decade ago.
@richardturner6981
@richardturner6981 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how they make up Qark.
@rescrel
@rescrel 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9mFjMZ7mtKzcn0.html
@SJHFoto
@SJHFoto 8 ай бұрын
1:14 You Vulcanize Cardassians???? Hehe!
@koshi6505
@koshi6505 3 жыл бұрын
Dukat- One beautiful entity.
@judyvalencia3257
@judyvalencia3257 6 жыл бұрын
Is he related to the Westmore makeup from the 50's and 60'?.
@darthkurland
@darthkurland 6 жыл бұрын
judy valencia he sure is.
@Mxyzptlksac
@Mxyzptlksac 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s several generations. His grandfather George Westmore had created the first studio make-up department in 1917 at Selig Polyscope Company, his dad did make up for Gone with the Wind etc...
@philipdefibaugh7127
@philipdefibaugh7127 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he is, related to Bud Westmore who did both the Creature from the Black Lagoon and Mole People masks as well as the makeups used in Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
neat!
@zimbalax4103
@zimbalax4103 5 жыл бұрын
Gul Dukat
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Жыл бұрын
No, that is Mark Major, he plays background characters. His big on-screen moment is in the episode Cardassia joins the Dominion ("By Inferno's Light," Season 5) with Garak in the prison camp with Worf, Bashir, Martok. When all Cardassian prisoners come forward and are told Cardassia joined the Dominion, he and Garak exchange bewildered glances.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 6 жыл бұрын
He's way better looking than that Kim Cardassian.
@Paula_Shelton
@Paula_Shelton 3 ай бұрын
Being allergic to latex, I would've been screwed.
@user-gy8ke9bs8q
@user-gy8ke9bs8q 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone recognize the cardassian
@Horos101
@Horos101 5 жыл бұрын
He is Gul Dukat
@electricbrein180
@electricbrein180 2 жыл бұрын
An unnamed background cardassian played by Mark Major, who did tons of uncredited background aliens you can see on his memory alpha page
@VaporheadATC
@VaporheadATC Жыл бұрын
Would be sick to be friends with these makeup artists around Halloween.
@ronaldtheant
@ronaldtheant 6 жыл бұрын
No dislikes
@greenlion6544
@greenlion6544 4 жыл бұрын
But they’re all humans. Why not put the eyes on the bottom and mouth somewhere else?
@michaelfarrell4824
@michaelfarrell4824 3 жыл бұрын
These days some 19 year old will just whip up a 3d photo-real character in software.... Another decade we'll probably have more AI actors than human ones
@ludeman
@ludeman 4 жыл бұрын
Leave the mouth and the eyes if you want your actors to emote, STD naaaaaaaaa.........
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