Michelle Kwan 關穎珊 (USA) - 1995 World Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate

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3Axel1996

3Axel1996

13 жыл бұрын

Birmingham, England, GREAT BRITAIN - 1995 World Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate - Michelle Kwan of the United States skated a perfect program. But because of her somewhat immature presentation, her scores placed her only 3rd in the Free Skate. She would end up moving up from 5th to 4th Place overall. An interview with Nicole Bobek follows.

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@PerAllwin1963
@PerAllwin1963 Жыл бұрын
Her performance deserved a medal.
@jjh2456
@jjh2456 5 жыл бұрын
This the perfect example of having all the fundamentals, but needing something a little extra. She got that little extra the next year and became a legend.
@scook5599
@scook5599 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved Michelle's arm movements. So graceful. Her joyful skating.
@patwhit8414
@patwhit8414 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacular, Michelle! Thank you. So fun to watch!
@bennysapien4148
@bennysapien4148 17 күн бұрын
👏 Bravo .Michelle deserved at least a 6.0 a perfect performance. Always a fan of Michelle Kwan.
@WillowRaven7
@WillowRaven7 4 ай бұрын
Positively amazing!!! And totally not right that her presentation scores were lower than her technical scores. I was really surprised to see not even ONE 6.0 😥😳😯😖
@callystarr
@callystarr Жыл бұрын
Undermarked im sp and lp
@mahlenm5673
@mahlenm5673 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a program. Did this have 9 jumping passes? If so that's incredible!
@Danny-wy8kz
@Danny-wy8kz 4 жыл бұрын
She should’ve got some medal,at least her free routine was cleaner than Sueta or Nicole...
@scottw6704
@scottw6704 8 ай бұрын
I think she was too far behind in the short program (4th?) and Nicole's SP was so good that Michelle couldn't do much unless she won the long program altogether
@georginashine3006
@georginashine3006 9 ай бұрын
Wow 👏🏼
@MrSaltphone
@MrSaltphone 2 жыл бұрын
She was robbed....this is how I became a Kwan fan....remains my favourite of all her routines
@dashoverton1963
@dashoverton1963 3 жыл бұрын
This performance by Michelle should’ve given her another World Championship gold medal to add to her long list of gold medals. The fact she got no medal here is blasphemous.
@asmrgoodfellow
@asmrgoodfellow Ай бұрын
So unfair. They made Tara a world champion at 14... just like Kwan was here. And... MK was fantastic here.
@figurativeartistbenjaminel8395
@figurativeartistbenjaminel8395 Жыл бұрын
She grew a lot artistically over the years, but I kinda wish she would have pushed herself technically. Pretty much the same jump layout as the 98 and 02 Olympics.
@user-qu6wi3hu8f
@user-qu6wi3hu8f 6 ай бұрын
If you're sad you're not without options. They sell bleach at the supermarket. You should'nt have to suffer.
@23Echeo
@23Echeo 5 ай бұрын
Her jumps actually got weaker thru the years
@user-qu6wi3hu8f
@user-qu6wi3hu8f 5 ай бұрын
@@23Echeo You beef suckers always come on here with this BS. She had a long career with great technique. The Russians and their weak edges and pre-rotated jumps changed the sport into the cheated jumpfest it is now.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp 2 ай бұрын
​@@23Echeo Seriously ? Tara's flip and lutz would be called out for under rotation today. Michelle's technique was much better.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp 2 ай бұрын
​@@23Echeo And Sarah Hughes was a 2002 Olympics Cinderella who never won any World champion or the National titles....... Michelle's technique was much better. 😂
@ivanlavouras
@ivanlavouras 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to see Tonya Harding and Michelle competing against each other
@lopez34ll39
@lopez34ll39 3 жыл бұрын
They did it in the 1994 US nationals
@ivanlavouras
@ivanlavouras 3 жыл бұрын
@@lopez34ll39 But Michelle was too young back then, It would had been amazing that Tonya could have been able to compete in 1996 or 1997
@rachelplows3001
@rachelplows3001 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanlavouras she was still allowed to compete internationally, because the age rules were different back then.
@tofucat9286
@tofucat9286 10 ай бұрын
@@rachelplows3001um, no, she was banned in 1994.
@rachelplows3001
@rachelplows3001 10 ай бұрын
@@tofucat9286 it wasn't until after the 94 nationals that she was banned
@Evancho08
@Evancho08 Жыл бұрын
i quit the ice.. all politics
@debsam77
@debsam77 3 жыл бұрын
Michelle shlujd gave medaled 😡
@michaelshelley1289
@michaelshelley1289 3 жыл бұрын
this just sucks!!!!!!!!!!!
@Kevinsf
@Kevinsf 9 жыл бұрын
At this age, who'd knew that she would have such a long illustrious career. We miss you Michelle.
@phillyjawn174
@phillyjawn174 6 жыл бұрын
And baby that day a beast was born ....always love Michelle
@bojohns77
@bojohns77 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! When I saw this skate and I saw that first spark in her eye at the beginning of this program, I said to myself something is different. The rest is history!
@alphabetacanton
@alphabetacanton 7 жыл бұрын
Just breath taking; absolutely mesmerizing!!! What a show indeed!! I watched that performance live back in 1995 in the UK.
@erika6651
@erika6651 2 жыл бұрын
I wished I had been in the crowd! You guys were so enthusiastic you'd think this had been held in Canada.
@mlc2005
@mlc2005 11 жыл бұрын
The beginning of THE skating icon.
@debraenderle4737
@debraenderle4737 9 жыл бұрын
All Michelle's jumps were beautiful but her triple lutzes were absolutely gorgeous, so high and light!
@jjh2456
@jjh2456 8 жыл бұрын
Her lutzes and the flip were extraordinary.
@bordeauxhouse
@bordeauxhouse 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjh2456 yes to both. Her flip is my favorite.
@jarenmorris4621
@jarenmorris4621 9 жыл бұрын
Just awesome. I miss her.
@cbarkhordari
@cbarkhordari 10 жыл бұрын
This just made me loath the figure skating industry, but love my all time favorite figure skater even more...I'm literally crying with her!! Love you Michelle!
@erika6651
@erika6651 2 жыл бұрын
Why loathe? I watched this back in the day, felt sad that Michelle wasn't "adult" enough to win, but adored - and still do - Chen Lu's winning program!
@dalydos3
@dalydos3 6 жыл бұрын
I hardly know anything about ice skating and it’s so cool watching and learning about all these different skaters. What sets this performance apart from others for me is the way she felt the music. So vibrant and on point. How you could see the clear tempo changes and moods. I used to dance, perform in color guard. Currently I’ve been in love w my quad roller skates. It’s so fun and scary learning how to pump in the bowls. I’ve only ice skated once in my life (live in southern OK so it’s not common here) concrete is just about everywhere so I love roller skating :)
@3Axel1996
@3Axel1996 12 жыл бұрын
On the basis of Michelle winning the LP, then: 1st Place - Michelle (SP 5th + LP 1st = 2.5 + 1.0 = 3.5 Factored Placements) 2nd Place - Chen (3rd + 2nd = 1.5 + 2.0 = 3.5 (Michelle wins on higher LP placement - tiebreaker) 3rd Place - Bobek (1st + 4th = 0.5 + 4.0 = 4.5) 4th Place - Bonaly (4th + 3rd = 2.0 + 3.0 = 5.0)
@michaelshelley1289
@michaelshelley1289 6 жыл бұрын
no way...she was better than all of them!!!
@kayincat
@kayincat 7 жыл бұрын
Michelle couldn't have skated that program any better.
@skaterboy-cz9wj
@skaterboy-cz9wj 5 жыл бұрын
Then there is probably a problem with that program. Actually she could skate it better - more maturity, more power, less spindly little girl.
@Oreadno1
@Oreadno1 12 жыл бұрын
My mistake. But really, the only thing that kept her from getting a medal was her age.
@jorgebonilla2234
@jorgebonilla2234 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they dropped the ball with the packaging. Having the ponytail and bubblegum pink dress screams “give me a 5.7 for presentation.” In terms of musicality and arm line she was already pretty solid. And way more invested in her programs than Bobek ever was
@erivera4928
@erivera4928 5 жыл бұрын
Frank always held her back early on. Only after this was he forced to turn her into a woman.
@skaterboy-cz9wj
@skaterboy-cz9wj 5 жыл бұрын
Bobek was older and skated with maturity and far more power and fire.
@damianlee5438
@damianlee5438 Жыл бұрын
@@skaterboy-cz9wj And far fewer triple jumps... 😘
@MichaelDruck
@MichaelDruck 11 ай бұрын
Danny Kwan was the one against her looking more mature. Frank had no problem with it.
@bordeauxhouse
@bordeauxhouse 5 жыл бұрын
Love this triple flip and the 2 axel combination.
@ziyhuang
@ziyhuang 12 жыл бұрын
@russianskatingfan if anyone's gotten repeated gifts it's Irina Sluktskaya and her nonexistent underrotated triple triple. The only time she deserved her gold was 2005 World. She was so held up by the judges in 2000, 2001 to even get silver. 2002 GPF she won the gold which was absurd. Big jumps but no artistry with sloppy arm movements. Kwan got gifts? Each time she won a world championship she did 6-7 triples. No gifts there. She worked for each gold.
@SonOfAGun1814
@SonOfAGun1814 9 жыл бұрын
michelle skated better than everyone by far!
@barkingtree88
@barkingtree88 13 жыл бұрын
Her smile got bigger with every jump she landed.
@Bnizzofashizzo
@Bnizzofashizzo 9 жыл бұрын
OMG... chills... tears... that's my reaction. I remember this like yesterday. amazing.
@skaterboy-cz9wj
@skaterboy-cz9wj 5 жыл бұрын
It was a wonderful performance - chills probably not - she did not have the artistic magic yet she had later. She was a polished American princess who could jump - mindyou not the amplitude of the Russian baby ballerinas.
@Bnizzofashizzo
@Bnizzofashizzo Ай бұрын
@@skaterboy-cz9wjheaux, who asked you? I gave MY reaction
@ziyhuang
@ziyhuang 12 жыл бұрын
@russianskatingfan Kwan was grossly undermarked in SP. She was again undermarked in the LP. She should've been 3rd of higher in the SP. She was robbed a medal here. She did not beat Lu Chen in the LP, but certainly did better than Bonaly with her underrotated jumps.
@RachelDavisMatthews
@RachelDavisMatthews 8 жыл бұрын
Michelle's grace and artistry certainly improved over the next 9 years, not so much her spins, layback and jumps tho from here. Technically peaked early in her career and maintained that nice steady level. Her father always seemed a bit tense for me in the stands...too much a 'stage father'.
@afrogirl757
@afrogirl757 8 жыл бұрын
+RachelDavisMatthews Danny Kwan was protective and their family close and supportive. Excellent qualities for a dad in Chinese culture. I remember TV fluff explaining that he worked 2 or 3 jobs as a new immigrant from Hong Kong to provide expensive, elite level skating classes for both Michelle and Karen. I'd be "stressed" too :-) I think he began to relax as her success grew - as well as his restaurant. business too.
@ilovejayesslee1
@ilovejayesslee1 11 жыл бұрын
she looks so cute in that sombrero (:
@intldawn
@intldawn 13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I still do not understand the logic of her not winning a medal at all. Chen Lu clearly deserved gold. Bonaly--eh--she deserved a medal but maybe not silver. But how could this not beat out Bobek who did not skate clean and did not perform with her usual verve and style? I know Nicole won the short and that saved her, but come on. Maturity aside, I really enjoyed watching this. She showed genuine enthusiasm and energy. That has to count for something, I think.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
You stupid clown, if you knew anything you would know Kwan was marked clearly over bobek in the long. She ended up behind Bobek due to the short program resuts which had Bobek winning and Kwan 5th. And while Kwan should have been 4th over Bonaly in the short it still wouldnt have mattered, Bobek's short program win still would have given her the bronze over Kwan. Yes Kwan clearly deserved to beat Bobek in the long program, but she did easily idiot, with only like 1 judge having Bobek higher in the long. The short program results are the only reason Bobek won the bronze. Only an idiot who knows nothing about skating or skating scoring would need that explained.
@Oreadno1
@Oreadno1 12 жыл бұрын
Peggy Fleming said the only thing the judges could fault her for was being 14 and that's exactly what they did. She should have won a medal but they penalized her for being young.
@geoboe84
@geoboe84 6 жыл бұрын
Oreadno1 It's Sandra Bezic, but agree nonetheless.
@L.Spencer
@L.Spencer 6 жыл бұрын
I think it was the pony tail that made her look young. Tara Lipinski was young and tiny but she wore lots of makeup and had her hair in a bun.
@3Axel1996
@3Axel1996 5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, which was why the major transformation the next season with more make-up and hairdo, plus a more mature packing with regard to the choreography to her programs.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
@@L.Spencer Tara Lipinski was known for her Disney Cartoon program.
@ellenbay3578
@ellenbay3578 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Michele will have a child that will be as good as her... We can only hope
@hrjr2009
@hrjr2009 13 жыл бұрын
@russianskatingfan i understand that Yamaguchi is Japanese...HOWEVER, get your stories right! Japanese media did not ask midori to appologize. Midori appologized for her loss. And there was no anti Chinese bias going on...Lu Lu was the leader at skate america and series finals. She lost those competitions because she struggled with jumps and kwan outskated her. Skating isnt always fair. In the past people were given titles...but kwan i must say was not. Judges were always harshest on her!
@hrjr2009
@hrjr2009 13 жыл бұрын
I think the only skaters that judges were biased towards were Maria Butyrskaya because she was old, to Surya Bonali because she was black (93 and 94 worlds were hers!), and to michelle. I feel judges knew michelle was the complete package and expected her to skate perfect all the time...
@norikokanda1238
@norikokanda1238 5 жыл бұрын
日本のスケートファンです。 ミシェルクワンを始めて知った大会て、スター誕生!だと衝撃を受けた事、今もはっきり覚えています。ミシェルはいつまでも私ののヒロインです♡
@SDoesNotKnow
@SDoesNotKnow 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Bobek was sort of mad that Kwan's third place finish in the LP pushed her down to third overall and pushed Bonaly up to silver.
@dbulc5171
@dbulc5171 Жыл бұрын
Bonaly didn't deserve silver in this World's. All her under rotations and mess of artistry. I still believe Bonaly got robbed in 93. But she didn't deserve gold in 94 and she didn't deserve silver here. I think the silver was a gift because they screwed her in 93.
@metsdudenj
@metsdudenj 5 жыл бұрын
the judges fucked up the placements in the SP, she deserved fourth over bonaly there and that would have equated to silver for her in the long, with bobek third
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@intldawn Kwan did place 3rd in the long ahead of Bobek. Bobek was 4th in the long but since she was 1st in the short she was gauranteed a medal unless she placed below Markova in the long. Whoever of Bonaly or Kwan came 3rd in the long was going to lose overall to Bobek because Bobek won the short program (which she clearly deserved) and Bonaly and Kwan were both out of the top 3 in the short (which also was right). I dont know why so many people still dont get that.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
Sorry I meant than Michelle in my first sentence.
@535657
@535657 12 жыл бұрын
The commentator here is not Peggy Fleming, it's Sandra Bezic
@ang2664
@ang2664 8 жыл бұрын
I kinda look like her when I was little girl. I wish I was fortunate like her!!!!
@intldawn
@intldawn 12 жыл бұрын
Wait, how would Michelle have won the title by winning the free skate when she was only 5th after the short?
@anne91276
@anne91276 11 жыл бұрын
She's Chinese American..... She was born in California.
@gpaco78
@gpaco78 6 жыл бұрын
She could have done a quad and a triple axel triple loop combination the judges wasn’t gonna give her a medal. She was a little girl in the eyes of the judges thats why she skated to a wh*re that served a head on a silver platter the following year. Still the greatest skater for me.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
So the judges were absolutely right. Lu was the rightful winner on the 2nd mark. Surya deserved and was given the highest technical mark which gave her the silver, losing gold to Chen on the 2nd mark. Kwan had the 2nd best technical which put her 3rd overall in the long, but Nicole's short won her the bronze. As for 96 if many didnt think Kwan was the wrong winner why do so many people still debate the decision to this day. Sorry many did think Kwan was gifted that year.
@3Axel1996
@3Axel1996 13 жыл бұрын
@idolfan9495 Lulu was definitely stronger with presentation and choreography at the 96 Worlds. Her detriment was that she did not have as many triples as Michelle and that Michelle's spins were more solid than Lulu's. If you look at Lulu's spins, she performed the minimum revolutions required for each position to be counted, which was 3, but her camel spins wobbled and she traveled on some spins.
@erivera4928
@erivera4928 7 жыл бұрын
Thx for the videos!!! and yes I agree 96 lulu was amazing. But that - extra triple helped Kwan win
@johnjackson3735
@johnjackson3735 3 жыл бұрын
Politics is what caused Lu Chen not to win in 1996. It was the political artistic mark that Lu Chen supposedly "lost" in 1996 while skating one of the most artistic programs ever performed just as Mao's LP also to Rach II was lowballed. Classic examples of how skaters from Asian countries are lowballed no matter how superior the artistic performance is.
@damianlee5438
@damianlee5438 Жыл бұрын
@@johnjackson3735 Oh puhleaze. There was no politics. Lulu had WAY better jumps in 95 worlds and WAY WAY WAY better spins in 95 worlds compared to 96 worlds. Meanwhile Michelle's jumps and spins both improved from 95 worlds to 96 worlds, not to mention her huge improvement on her spirals. Also didn't hurt any with the total reinvention in presentation. There was no robbing involved. Sheesh.
@mlc2005
@mlc2005 13 жыл бұрын
Poor Sandra, who choreographed Chen's program, must have been thinking "oh crap." I always felt that Sandra was always a bit annoyed that Kwan never chose her to choreographed, and I think it showed up in her commentary.
@MichaelDruck
@MichaelDruck 11 ай бұрын
Agree.
@valeriamarcela6375
@valeriamarcela6375 7 жыл бұрын
How did she not get the gold?
@erivera4928
@erivera4928 7 жыл бұрын
Judges felt she looked too young. Then she became Salome the next year
@aabb3822
@aabb3822 6 жыл бұрын
she was also massively ripped off in the short program when she was left in 5th. to be fair, the overall winner, Lu Chen, won rightfully so. this effort should have given her at least a medal and not 4th but Bobek who won bronze here benefited from being (arguably) 1st after the short and even only 4th in the free skate, she managed to stay on the podium.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@hrjr2009 nobody cares about that fool. She lived in the U.S here whole life, she is viewed by judges as an American. Or do you think Kristi Yamaguchi was viewed as Japanese like Ito. Then why would the Japanese demand Ito to apologize for not winning Japan gold, isnt Yamaguchi Japanese to them since she is of Japanese origin, LOL! Idiot.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@3Axel1996 Lu was definitely stronger in presentation and choreography than Lu at the 96 Worlds like you said yet the judges even gave Michelle the much higher presentation scores- 7 5.9s and 2 6.0s vs 4 5.8s, 3 5.9s, and 2 6.0s for Lu Chen. What a joke. At the very last the scoring of the presentation side of the 96 Worlds was totally wrong. Lu Chen was not given anything in her career. In fact she was often robbed of a higher placing. There was an anti-Chinese bias in judging back then.
@LifeBeautifulMess
@LifeBeautifulMess 4 жыл бұрын
Actually judging is based on prior performance and practices and Chen Lu did not have a good record before worlds. Kwan was the correct winner. Chen pulled one out of her ass for worlds and while great, did not earn it leading into it for the season.
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 2 жыл бұрын
There's an anti-Kwan bias as well!!!
@nolaughingmatter
@nolaughingmatter 11 жыл бұрын
Russian single female skaters were not the powerhouses in terms of politics before Maria and Irina. Russian domination in ladies' singles were earned by Maria and Irina in the 90s. Prior to that, Russian/Soviet women were rarely contenders, except Vodorezova who won a World Bronze in the 80s.
@skaterboy-cz9wj
@skaterboy-cz9wj Жыл бұрын
And Kira Ivanova and Anna Kondrosheva.
@serenakicksass
@serenakicksass 11 жыл бұрын
Bonaly had triple-triples and Kwan did not so technically Bonaly still had the edge. Neither Bonaly or Kwan had any artistry this year. Kwan worked hard to develop artistry over the summer since she knew and said herself that is why she didnt medal here with the 2nd best technical long program.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you, finally someone who isnt a dumb shit.
@erivera4928
@erivera4928 6 жыл бұрын
Those triple triples were very underrotated. Michelle was ripped of here.
@tylerbam7183
@tylerbam7183 5 жыл бұрын
@@erivera4928 Underrotations didnt matter then. If they did Bonaly would have won no medals and Chen wouldnt have won the bronze at the 98 Games.
@michaelshelley1289
@michaelshelley1289 6 жыл бұрын
she should have won!!!!
@reubenkeyz5131
@reubenkeyz5131 5 жыл бұрын
Robbed! She should have won a medal.
@tally1604
@tally1604 9 жыл бұрын
Michelle should've won the lp, come on, you gotta be blind not to see it.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
Well 95% of people dont think that (pretty much everyone but the Kwan fanatics) so I guess everyone is blind. Most people dont even think Kwan deserved her win over Chen in 96 when Chen basically skated the same and Kwan was a way better skater, so ROTFL at her clearly deserving to win in 95.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
And it was reported on many instances the Japanese did ask Ito to apologize publicly for not winning the 92 Olympics. So you are wrong as usual. And the judges were not biased against Butyrskaya and Bonaly. Maria was a mediocre skater who only was even a contender since she was Russian. Bonaly was lucky she didnt skate under COP or she would be killed for her shoddy edges, underrotated jumps, and numerous other flaws.
@seanl2403
@seanl2403 13 жыл бұрын
What a close competition! Ordinals were flying to every skater from Chen to Markova! In the end I have to agree with the results. Kwan didn't have the maturity or artistry that the others have. Even Surya was better than this program IMO. Great Stuff!
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 13 жыл бұрын
Bonaly's program had the same number of triples but many were questionable in terms of rotation and double footing. Bonaly's artistry was non-existent. Michelle should have been placed above Bonaly and been on the podium. Few think Michelle was given a gift the next year. It was a close competition and both ladies were worthy. Michelle edged Lulu on tech, however, and tied her on presentation.
@StewNWT
@StewNWT 12 жыл бұрын
bizarre - Michele was the true champion of 1995, though I thought Lu Chen was slightly better in 96 and yet they ranked her 5th here
@tylerbam7183
@tylerbam7183 5 жыл бұрын
Chen was definitely the rightful winner this year. Kwan's artistry was light years behind Chen's in 95, and Chen's program was technically solid enough. I agree Chen should have won in 96.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
@@tylerbam7183 I don't agree what you said. Both Michelle and Lu Chen deserved to win the 1996 World medals. Michelle's performance was dramatic, epic and passion. Lu Chen's performance was elegant, graceful and beautiful. 🤫 Michelle's performance was too difficult to her age .
@erivera4928
@erivera4928 7 жыл бұрын
2 judges got it right...she should've WON that free skate and the title. Glad they corrected it a year later, although lulu should have won in 1996 lol.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
Kwan was way better in 96 than here, and Chen was more or less the same (apart from 1 more triple) so to say Kwan should have won in 95 but Chen in 96 is completely dumb and contradictory. Fuck so many dumb shits on this video.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@idolfan9495 she did not deserve to win the free skate. Lu Chens artistry was way better. Dont forget by next when Kwan was much improved many thought she was still given a gift to beat Chen so to put her over Chen this year would have been an outrage. Bonaly also deserved to be higher since technically her program was the strongest of all the women and artistically it was reasonable as well. Kwan deservedly was placed 3rd in the long over Bobek but Bobeks short won her a medal.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@hrjr2009 Chen was much better than Baiul at both the 93 Worlds and Olympics and lost to her at both. She deserved atleast silver at both events, probably gold at the 93 Worlds. She had one of the best free skates at the 92 Olympics and was placed 5th in the long behind Kerrigan and Harding. She deserved silver at the 92 Worlds and barely got bronze. Many felt she deserved to win the 96 World title over Kwan too. So you are wrong idiot, Chen was screwed by the judges many times.
@stevenvalencia6353
@stevenvalencia6353 6 жыл бұрын
What a robbery for machelle a screw job
@Dossen_A
@Dossen_A 4 жыл бұрын
Here she interprets only a little girl who is happy to jump, it's terribly far from the dramatic music of Saint-Saens. 5.6 is the most fair marks
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
Tara's Disney Cartoon program won the 1998 Olympics.
@larnielegaspi9060
@larnielegaspi9060 5 жыл бұрын
Surya Bonaly twice robbed in the world skating championship...
@scottw6704
@scottw6704 2 жыл бұрын
She did not improve her presentation. She could arguably have won '93 and '94 but she completely breaks the choreography before her jumps, and unfortunately for her in those times the artistic mark was the tiebreaker. It was almost impossible to beat Surya on the technical mark.
@rfillangi
@rfillangi 12 жыл бұрын
Michelle looked like a little girl out there. Suryea had her own style, it wasn't classical but it was a style. Michelle did 7 triples but several had no speed coming out. Michelle was 4th overall and that's where she should have been.
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 13 жыл бұрын
Michelle was robbed. She should have won the free skate (or at least a medal).
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 12 жыл бұрын
@ziyhuang It is hilarious you say Slutskaya was gifted to win silver at the 2000 and 2001 Worlds but then claim Kwan was not to win silver at the 99 Worlds. Kwan at the 99 Worlds skated much worse than Irina at the 2000 and 2001 Worlds. Also even if Irina didnt skate her best at the 2000 and 2001 Worlds there was nobody other than Michelle in the long program who skated better. The only time she was gifted was once at the GP final, an even nobody cares about anyway.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
Kwan's silver at the 1999 World Championship was the biggest crock of the decade. Kwan fanatics are always the one crying about the judges when she is in fact one of the most OVERscored skaters ever, not underscored. She was never robbed of a result or win or medal she earned, not even once. While many of her wins or medals are questionable- bronze at 2002 Games over Cohen and Suguri, silver at 99 worlds huge joke, win at the 96 Grand Prix final, some of her grand prix wins especialy the 2 Skate Americas over Hughes.
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 2 жыл бұрын
@@harveywolfe8787 Another anti-Kwan fanatic?🤔🤔
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
@@harveywolfe8787 Sasha Cohen had to skate on crutches or she would fall everywhere on ice, she skated under Michelle's shadow.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
@@harveywolfe8787 Sarah Hughes was a middle skater who was lucky to win the 2002 Olympics just because the other better skaters like Michelle and Irina made mistakes. (∩▽∩)Irina had some opinions about what happened for Sarah at the 2002 Olympics.
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
@@harveywolfe8787 Tara Lipinski said : Michelle Kwan is an idol of mine. One of the best skaters all the time was making me work harder and harder. 🤫 The ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara Lipinski didn't deserve to win and she should go to the kid's Olympics.
@hrjr2009
@hrjr2009 13 жыл бұрын
@russianskatingfan lol, this shows what a complete dumbass you are...Michelle is of Chinese origin too...
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
And the judges gave Kwan breaks many times in her career. The 99 Worlds she should have been 7th or 8th in the short program and not even able to medal. The 2000 Nationals where she should have been 4th in the short and lost to Cohen as a result. The 2002 Olympics where she did not deserve to win the short program. And Kwan has never been robbed of a title she deserved, except arguably the 98 Olympics, but she was lucky not to win there anyway as she would have retired had she won.
@damianlee5438
@damianlee5438 Жыл бұрын
Give it a damn rest. She was NEVER given a break. Michelle was always held to a higher standard than most of her competitors. She always had to do more triples or she would lose, even against other skaters who had lower quality jumps than herself (I.e. Tara Lipinski). Kwan set the bar for ladies skating for a decade. It's a shame so many haters still gotta hate to this day. Kwan won what she won, and didn't win what she didn't win. She had an incredible career. And proved you don't need Olympic Gold in order to be immensely popular. Just give it a rest.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 13 жыл бұрын
@idolfan9495 Surya had triple-triples which makes her triples more valuable and her program far more difficult technically than Michelle's. It more than compensates for 1 or 2 minor cheated jumps. Her jumps also had more power than Michelle's, and many of Michelle's had no flow coming out. And Michelle was not artistically strong either in 95. And saying she deserved to beat Lu is a joke. Lu had far better artistry than Michelle in 95 and sufficient technical to win.
@harveywolfe8787
@harveywolfe8787 6 жыл бұрын
Roger, idolfan is the blindest and most biased Kwan fanatic ever, which given what insanine monster Kwan fanatics in general are is saying something. Dont even bother reasoning with him/her/it.
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 2 жыл бұрын
@@harveywolfe8787 You and Roger are the most anti-Kwan fanatics?🤔🤔🤔
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