On the other hand, not a single windows update, virus, advertisement in sight on macOS.

And it looks like the Surface Laptops still have a fan while the macbook airs have no fans

@@ArthropodSpidey true, but let's not pretend MacOS doesn't get affected by malware. But screw the ads, that is still stupid to this day.

​@@eyb0ssa lot might switch to MacOS because of this...

@@nickthaskater I can't see any 8GB option on the UK website for pre-order

They all are

Same pipe, just different ends

But MS keyboard is better since it'll break more quickly, giving the consumer to buy new better keyboard or tablet, andlre BSODs when the drivers crash

Apple would charge $1000 and calll it the magic plus amazing never before seen keyboard because we invented keyboards. The Apple fanboys would be foaming at the mouth for it.

That is absurd and way too much for an accessory. I own the new iPad Air 13" but I'll never buy an Apple keyboard

Windows has no issue running on ARM, it's the applications that have been the issue.

@@nickthaskaterhopefully this chip can handle emulation better. And that more apps get native support

Same

@@nickthaskater and that's the major turn off of windows ARM. They don't have tools like rosetta 2 when they introduced windows arm...or at least they tried but failed miserably. So I really hope they solve this issue for this release.

@@enesjei there's an entirely new x86 emulator now, so yes it should be like Rosetta 2 now.

It's standalone device

But you can use Type Covers as old as the Pro X Keyboard. The Flex Keyboard isn't your only option here.

Sure, they are expensive, but bring the value back with usability. Sure, if you 2 finger type, wasting 350, 250, 150 or even 75€ on any keyboard is a waste. If you proper 10 finger type, good keyboard is irreplacable. For example, magic keyboard for iPad is hella expensive, but nothing comparable exists that doesnt take up entire table when in use.

$1100 device + $350 keyboard 😡🤬🤬 $1300 device + $150 keyboard 😁🤗🤗

A keyboard should never exceed $100… I wont even try to type on it… how can someone enjoy something like this? Could not rape it day in and out my fingers.

Lol Intel has so many clients and sells that they literally don't care. Plus, they don't depend on tsmc like Qualcomm, amd and apple

All I hear is competition is here

​@IvoPavlik maybe Intel will get off there high horse

Intel seems to have heavily discounted their Ultra series CPU, as I noticed mostly of the laptops with them are selling at equal less price. The battery life of the ultra series is acceptable (10h vs maybe 20h on arm), not as good but if it's discounted it's not too bad.

cos they don’t give a shit

as long as they steal as much data from you as possible, they are happy

They're busy chasing trends

@@rjbse exactly. Ai is the new 3D

@@finnley24haha thats big true. And its very sad. I loved Windows 8.1 on Surface devices. It was celan, fast, fresh, designed for touch. But windows 11 is garbage for touch devices 😂

Imagine watching naughty stuff 😳

Then remove the applications you wish the OS not to record or better yet completely disable it.

@@darkless60 ah, just what i needed, an automated journal of whatever stuff i goon to

as if you weren't using their os in the first place

it happens on your device locally, unlike where ios scans every photo you take to train their ai model.

Microsoft says local but only open source code would verify that since we all know how much microsoft loves to sell your data

@@hannahtimson2526 that's what I'm saying. Especially when people have to install a "real" clean version of Windows 11 without all the telemetry an bloat that comes with it

At least that’s a feature you can turn off…for now. Several tv show writers just got new ideas for the fall season.

they already announced that the recall feature is entirely on-device, nothing gets sent to MS

@@mist1373 Sure, keep drinking the Microsoft Kool Aid. I would rather trust Somalian tap water than what Microsoft says. 😂

@@mist1373 Yeah yeah, and Facebook wont sell your account info because they say so, yeah yeah.

@@peterthepanda You have a google account bud.

Why not, I know people who do lots of them in a week

Depends

I'd say the price is amazing. 16gb/512gb with best CPU for 1600 euros is great value

Fair but it's a steal compared to Apple prices

​@@pauldekoning7679 While Qualcomm's new core design shows promise, we lack critical information about its actual performance, particularly concerning the x86 to ARM translation layer. It's unclear if this layer supports only x86, or if it can seamlessly integrate both x86 and ARM architectures. Currently, the only data available indicates good performance in synthetic benchmarks and impressive power efficiency. However, it's premature to label it as the "best CPU" without real-world reviews and thorough evaluations.

It's 7000 SEK for the keyboard and pen here in Sweden - that is just bonkers.

iPad os is isn’t a keyboard centered OS and everything can be done using the touchscreen, Windows on the other hand is a Mouse and Keyboard/Trackpad centered OS with a lot of stuff not working well with touch, so I’d say it’s even worse.

​@@idontwanttochooseausernameexactly 💯 we should tell people this stuff evertime they ask for Mac os on the iPad

does the new one support the old cover?

I’m very envious. I have a base surface pro 9 and wondering what I could get as a part exchange through Microsoft for a base X Plus iteration. I may come back to this chat to find out how you got along with performance. I’m holding out for some reviews just to make sure software I use all works well.

@@SanderGHovde Yep! Surface Pro is compatible with the Pro X Keyboard, Pro X Signature Keyboard, Pro Keyboard, Pro Signature Keyboard, and Pro Keyboard with Pen Storage. All on top of supporting the new Flex Keyboard.

​@@SanderGHovdeyeah and I love that

It's been long overdue for sure

just turn it off?

They expect you to run the computer with BitLocker always turned on... so you get the privacy protection that way, at least.

@@SoundJudgment bitlocker is only good IF your PC gets stolen.. if you are logged into your PC and get hacked while using your PC or leave it logged in you ARE screwed

Something Mac has done for a few years and Linux has done for decades. I think Windows 7 even offered a similar feature.

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 yes but not to this extent

From some of what I've seen it can search inside the documents as well, so far removed from screenshot ocr. Search in general and indexing has actually improved quite a lot

@@1dappa searching document text has been a thing for years. There's nothing "AI" about it.

@@1dappa OCR was able to convert entire PDFS. This being able to do it on the fly maybe is made easier by machine learning, but a lot of this has to do with marketing and shareholders and less to do with some revolutionary functionality.

@@nickthaskater True, its more what you can do now and the expansion of context. For example being able to search the words redbag and have imagines of red bags appear in the result, or documents containing images of red bags. Two things can be true at the same time - they overhype everything as AI, but also, transformers and LLMs have changed a lot.

@@1dappa Google Photos has been able to do that for years.

You'd be surprised how many pitches and brainstorming sessions happen in my area like this

Wait till you see how consultants like me present on their iphones to CEOs in the evening in a busy Chinese restaurant 🥲

Bit harsh, I take it you are not in management/sales? Can't say powerpoint but I'm always pulling out my laptop to show clients/collegues in a cafe

Lmaooo, I can genuinely never take people that "work" at coffee shops seriously. Like forreal, is answering emails and pretending to work on a tiny screen the sum of your job 😂

surface pro 10 was released not too long ago, that is intel only.

3:2 maybe

I want to know this too. I need fusion 360

depends on how much storage you're pc has but i believe minimum were 25gb

@@whyrulikedis8248 Not worth it.

@@whyrulikedis8248 mess

I’m sticking to the 16/512 model and will order a keyboard from eBay 😄

Have you add oled screen? Its + 500£ in UK. Mad…

@@bartekm4280 yes that is including the OLED

​@@bartekm4280why get a screen that's gonna burn out in a year or two

@@randy89555 OLEDs haven't worked like that for years.

5G is an option. Yes.

Arm chips are much more efficient, so they are much better for mobile use.

No one cares. But I prefer a laptop with a fan they won't throttle in important moment

It all comes down to implementation at this point

@@onapersonalnote7045 yes it will, knowing Microsoft it will be like Apple said: "8GB on Mac are equivalent to 16GB on PC" 😂

​@@s.tunafish But that isn't true tho. People have done test to debunk this.

@@Codyslx I know, it was meant as a joke :) "Because Apple is always more efficient"

It's the most sold version

@@MarioDarnadi We find the black devices show all our finger prints. Any time we have a snack we needs wipes to clean the devices.

This has the same starting price as a iPad Pro in Europe and with windows being the os I doubt this will compete with Tablets, and costs 500€ more if you want a Oled screen which the iPad Pro already has and with the same storage options it’s 350 and 70€ more expensive for 512gb/1tb models.

@@idontwanttochooseausername Except the iPad is a usable device without a keyboard. A Surface is not. Windows 11 is not optimized for tablet use, at all.

the $ 500 is for OLED + X ELITE As the LCD ones ship with the XPLUS