my experience is the opposite. On my laptop, current Windows standby is super power-hungry, so much so that the fans keep spinning, whereas on all my previous laptops it consumed little to no power in sleep mode. "It evolves, but backwards" meme is perfect for this.

​@@TabalugaDragon mine won't even shut down. If I force it to do so it'll spend up to 10mins booting. So speeding is the only option (and it still consumes around 10% overnight)

This is a huge problem with windows, I even considered buying apple, that's how bad it is.

You have to fiddle with your power settings in control panel. It allows you to set the maximum capacity at which your CPU/SSD/Fans can run on battery and while plugged in.

This really is key. All of my windows machines die if I just close the lid and toss in a bag for a few days. My M3 max on the other hand…hadn’t touched in days and battery is essentially exactly where it was last I used it

oh it totally is once software catches up which is really the hard part + the fact of windows itself sucks so bad

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl No joke, windows 11 being so bad it made me switch to linux and MacOS for my daily driver

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl software will catch up about a year or 2 after the hardware is release, and new hardware has arrived, which the software wont support.

@@jairozamora608 Lol never happened to me.

Most processors in the last several generations have no problem with this. 20 chrome tabs, casting an extended 4k screen playing netflix, youtube on laptop screen, and transferred a 120GB folder at the same time with practically no noise on the last couple generations of U processors or HS processors.. No actually heavy tasks. But also no blasting of fans at all.

It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

Seeing its microsoft, and how windows have sucked on every level on surface devices, I doubt it. They are completly incompetent at vertical integration

​@@wile123456It's not that they are incompetent at vertical integration, it's that they can't do vertical integration because they don't control the hardware.

​@@Ailidanhe literally offered another option that had better specs.

@@EikottXD yeah asians for asians

Can probably thank Apple for that.

@@insainllamawhat do you mean thank Apple? Does Apple control Microsoft pricing??

@@Yzyenthusiastyup, no corporation is our friend. Once Microsoft saw apple could get away with these prices they upped them too

@@Yzyenthusiastinfluence is the better word

@@YzyenthusiastApple proved that it’s possible and the masses will pay this price

AMD as well my friend😔 ARM is the way to go I'm so happy x86 is finally dead

@@Guts48 x86 won't be dead for desktops.

@@shazidulislam9286 it should be, it's a really old architecture tbh

That’s true! I think The snapdragon is the better choice. Ngl

​@@Guts48try gaming on arm...

Wouldn't emulation be an os-side i.e. Microsoft's problem?

Windows Emulation is indeed on par and sometimes faster than Apple as tested by Gary. I hope it all goes well.

problem is a lot of that is more of a question of windows than arm, but either can screw it up

Emulation is already not too difficult, more difficult would be handling of all the legacy drivers and whatnot which need more than a "simple translation layer".

Confirmed that the x86 (and x86_64) applications can use ALL cores on this SoC. M1 emulation was good, but could only use two performance cores at once. This potentially makes this much better, however Apple Rosetta2 also transposed the Intel instructions to Armv8 at install time, which gave them a massive performance advantage immediately.

Agreed

Camera and mic on top

Would probably need some type of notch for that

yeah but, than we ll have a black are where camera is located. Windows isnt ready forthat

@@flamingrage100 Dell’s top bezel is thinner than Surface side bezels.

How do you get 3 days out of it? Do you only use it for like 1-2 hours per day? Like watch a bit of youtube, write a few emails or something, do some shopping? I have an m3 max mbp and charge it 3 times a day but obviously I'm using a power hungry workflow.

@@definingslawek4731 my workloads aren’t heavy, it’s mostly web, zooms, cloud based software and I’m on it 3-4 hours a day for work. Maybe an hour or 2 for non work.

@@definingslawek4731 If he only uses it lightly for 4-5 hours a day you can definitely get 2-3 days out of it

@@definingslawek4731 exactly. Is Joe using the M2 to do light typing? I've never heard of getting three full days of real work on any laptop ever.

@@retroelectrical i have an m2 air and im a full time highschool student in a school that exclusively does digital work. I use my laptop 5-8 hours a day and charge it once every 2-4 days. i never get below 20 percent EVER

Asian gene + men usually age better + fame + wealth + taking care of ur self

+ L + ratio

​@dandansfu how does fame not make you age?

​@@AltraHapiHe clearly didn't see Macaulay Culkin.

@@AltraHapi unless you act like crazy or too political…etc Usually famous ppl get better treatment when they get recognized Even if , say Beyoncé , didn’t even try to let ppl know who she is and walked into a restaurant by herself and ppl recognized her , u think she will get same treatment as us? Even if she didn’t request it Unless the owner hates her In their day to day life they see ppl smiling , being nice and happy to see them , feel honoured to see them and work with them And they constantly get confidence boost comments. Just look at the comments. Always mostly positive comments. And well deserved as he put up amazing , good quality videos But for us normal ppl , how often we get praise even if we do an excellent job. Again you may have haters , you may be tired time to time of being recognized. For sure fame does can have some impact too but for the most part it’s good This combine with wealth, connection ..etc Stress and positivity ( lack of rejection , always being treated warmly ..etc) All help with delayed aging

it also compliments the windows 11 apps which have rounded corners.

You would be surprised how many “rounded” screens are just rectangular screens with the pixels disabled and a black rounded border painted inbetween the glass and the screen layer.

@@Entertainment-except iphones

Round corners is super innovative

@@iTzNicholaslol

Atleast they r giving 16gb base ram not like MBA

@@IshanKhandelwal tbf macos is less demanding than windows

@@adityanair5340 they are not, it's just what apple tells you.

@@metamon2704 it is. I'm pretty sure you've never even used macOS and just talking out of your ass.

@@metamon2704 Coming from someone who used an 8GB M1 Air it ran far better than any windows laptop I have had with the same memory.

They want to catch up with apple

Snapdragon Elite should be great against the M3 & AMD Hawk-point. But the M4 is already out & AMD is introducing the 12 core Strix-Point in 2 weeks!

@@tringuyen7519 Amd and Intel are shit. Fan noise and low battery level no matter what products they release. The are light years behind apple and i hope this time Snapdragon Elite X will finally be able to deliver performance with no fan noises and excellent battery life.

well now they could just copy apple since they showed how to do it. but windows is such a mess, it's way worse than android, it is literally the worst, so the software transition is the hardest part and will take a lot of effort time and money.

​@@tringuyen7519highly doubt amd and intel can catch up with efficiency and power per watt; anymore. If these keeps on x86 will be nearly dead in future. M4 litreally killed best intel ever in single core with much less power and probably cost cheaper to apple. At this point no reason to use x86 variant except for gaming. The thing is so done for.

i honestly never use right alt. Would bind it to < if i get a laptop with one considering it's a rare key on laptops (even full size keyboards)

How do you remap that key?

AMD INTEL NVIDIA they are so dead for so long now, i mean their time was counted with M1 which was like an enternity ago... NOBODY will ever want anything from them, and no ai is not gonna save nvidia it will delay their dead for the longest but gpu's actually suck for ai

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl You are comparing it wrong, Apple uses the latest TSMC 3nm fab on top of ARM architecture to get all the efficiency. When Intel's Fab get better then they will also enjoy a much lower tdp for same performance, also Intel's X86 is constantly getting smart and modular as ARM.

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl GPUs is not used for AI only, nvidia will never die as their product will shift towards another thing that benefits from their massive parallelism cores. gaming then cryptocourncy mining then AI ... etc.

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlfr arm in the future not them. I hate x86 because x86 chips are absolutely terrible for battery life on mobile devices like laptops and that's a understatement 😂

@@iamakkkshay TSMC 3nm is not actually 3nm, but it's 3.5nmE. Don't be fooled by marketing. Transistors are actually larger than the marketing suggests anyway. Copper wires, and I/O on the silicon are not even going to be anywhere near 3nm. Mostly 28-12nm in size, since I/O performance does not increase as the lithography size decreases.

I use that model daily and the rounded corners in combination with the 3:2 aspect ratio is somehow "easy on the eyes" (if that makes sense). I like it.

Also macbooks haven't had rounded screen corners for "over a decade". They only did that starting with notched macbooks

@@samblack3446 I'll take 3:2 any day.

@@anh49the 2014 MacBook Air is a decade

Yes and it's absolutely disgusting to cut off perfectly good screen for no reason. No-one wants this and it's not a selling point, just like notches so your phone can be 2mm shorter aren't.

and they say apple copies lol

@@p.aradise hahahaha apple sheep talking what a great sight to see

Bro really hahaha 😅

@@LoneWolf-py7ps how am I a sheep when I'm stating facts? don't you think these look a lot like macbooks?

@@p.aradise Don't try to rationalize with him. It'll be like talking to a brick wall.

Yes he is

Portable device MS Windows have been living in the shadow of the M series chips for 4 years, chained to the wall by their charging cables. Snapdragon only needs to be in the same ball-park as the M series for them to eat it all up. Higher thermals, greater range of hardware compatibility issues, MS Windows X86 application conversions 4 years behind and parallel development required to retain X86 compatibility... we'll just see if the extra performance from the ARM SoC can make up for all of those issues.

It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

Mostly won't is my guess.

Windows already works fine on ARM since the Surface Pro X

​@@ZeitGeist_TVAnd while Qualcomm is working on Linux support, good luck having to likely compile a lot of apps yourself, if they are FOSS, otherwise, you're currently screwed.

@@jak8274 Key word on mostly. And I don't use Windows anymore, so I don't really care.

​@@jak8274 I'm using one now and it's not all the way there yet

Well true, it might be quite good for hackintosh. But ARM is not supported now, as far as I know. Only intel based processors mostly supported.

MS Windows has cut a deal with Parallels to ensure Apple users can only emulate their OS, and are doing everything they can to stop people running it natively on Apple products. Look up all the online grassroots dev projects to convert Windows ARM to Apple M series Silicon products.... they all go quiet Are Qualcomm/MS colluding to stop people from having the ability to directly compare the SoC with the same OS?

Same question

It's only a problem if there isn't enough of it - from what I can tell the lowest specs have 16GB

@@metamon2704ram demand increase in the future, expandable ram allows for future proofing

Exactly. Otherwise, it's going to ruin the devices.

Laptop from Samsung? Good joke.

The Samsung Book 4 Edge was accidentally listed by a Vietnamese website and was costing around $2089

@@dominic7012 Have you been in a cave or something? they make decent laptops already, now with the new chips they might step it up to making great ones.

​@@dominic7012I see they don't sell in your part of the world 😂

i prefer rounded

I agree, especially considering how movies, media, websites, etc. are all designed with a rectangular screen in mind. Standards can change, like how laptop screens went from 16:9 to 16 by 10, but a visual change with no real benefit like rounded corners is really just wasted screen space.

Same here. Especially given that it makes IPS panels cloudy around the edges (bot really the case with OLED but it's still a waste of space).

All those 16 pixels lost…

What screen space are you missing, it’s literally the corners

yes! imagine having a low power state on linux. imagine having a linux on a laptop!!

@@mug786 not sure I understand the tone of your comment.... What really excites me regarding these Snapdragon laptops is the possibility of having a thin and light Linux laptop that lasts about 20 hours on a single charge.

Same! I just left a comment wondering about Linux support. Glad to hear they are working on it! Fedora installs so easily on my Thinkpads and I would love to have that with the battery life of ARM.

@@user-cl8ik9kt9e sorry, i'm not very good with tone. the biggest problem with linux on laptops is the lack of power efficiency. it's not even about arm or x86. the cpu itself works on max all the time, unlike macos or windows, where it idles unless there's work to be done. so a x86 windows laptop can last 12 h easily, but if you install linux on it it will be constantly warm and die in 5 h. hopefully we'll see this adressed soon.

You'll have to jailbreak them, MS has another exclusive deal with Qualcomm on these like they have for older ARM PC hardware.

May be they are sleeping for now,will wake up with new specs and they will sleep again so on .....

Gone… reduced to atoms

Won't buy it, I'll stick to x86 for compatibility

fwiw the new length of videos that allow for monetization is 8:00 -- so 8:01 is the new 10:01 --- not saying Dave is bad about it but just a new policy

This is basically a MacBook air copy.

Personally I use a Dell Xps 9520 upgraded ram myself to 64gb and a M1 1tb IPad still haven’t found anything worth me updating

xou probably used windows for decades and did notr learn macOS in depth like most

"Very excited to finally" be tracked by your ID to see W11 personalized ads?

@@dolurosu why bother with these apple fantards? see the smug response of probably didn't learn macOS in depth. what a smug response. I use a macbook M2 pro myself and there are things i prefer on windows like native tiling and clipboard history but macOS also isn't that bad either, since it feels like Linux but root user isn't accessible without enabling it and my VMs run a bit laggy. At the end of the day, use what works for you. stupid brand chasers. really hate these types.

That's me. I've been waiting for these devices. If the Linux support gets there I'll be buying several X Elite machines.

On the iPad Pro since 2018.

@@cameronbosch1213 he said MacBooks. If we’re talking other Apple products, the iPhone X rounded the corners in 2017

@@Ashanmaril That's true. Like he said, only the top corners were rounded. All four sides of the Surface devices are.

@@cameronbosch1213 I’m not disputing they rounded the corners differently, or commenting on it at all. I’m just curious why he thought Apple was doing it for a decade when it’s really been like 2.5 years

I have a macbook pro from 2018 and it has rounded corners

Its funny to see people saying they hate Mac but buy one anyways

It is a transition year. I really hope so. Close to move to Mac because of the battery life. But if we can get good Windows laptop with good battery life and without horrible Apple upgrade price I am all for it.

I use the macbook for traveling and the windows PC at home so i get you. With ARM, perhaps I can encourage the company i work for to have an opening for purchasing windows laptops for some.

OLED for the X Elite version, which cost more. The base models are the X Plus and are IPS panels and only (currently) have 16GB/512GB as their max config, but the low price is only 256GB of storage. This is for the Surface Pros.

@@andyH_England Yeah I saw that upgrading the chip on the Pro is OLED but not seeing that on the Laptop. Reviewers are only saying LCD for the laptop.

@@duchenedesignsolutions7036 Yes, I did edit and add this was for the Surface Pro as the Laptop is not currently showing OLED. That makes the laptop a tough buy seeing that nearly every other X Elite laptop is coming with OLED.

@@duchenedesignsolutions7036So MSFT wants to compete against the MacBook Air, not the MacBook Pro. Right?

Same here my dream was a macbook that runs windows and my dream is HERE

@@michaelayeni177 I hope that MS really nailed it this time but I’m not setting my expectations too high.

Linux (few apps) + ARM (few apps) = very few apps, sadly ://

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 on linux you can just recompile stuff...most programs are open source

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 what? lmao

Box64 and wine are already pretty good. These laptops should push their development even further.

@@kajetanczerwinski3962 Because of the Raspberry PI being so popular, pretty much all Linux software has ARM builds. Which to me is funny, as app support is one of the biggest problems with Windows on ARM, but no one acknowledges how good is Linux on that regard. My guess is that Linux currently has more ARM apps than Windows on ARM will have when these laptops release.

AHA!!! Its just about 3 to 4 yrs

completely defeats the purpose of that switch

Does it stay there or does it go even higher?

I'm pretty sure it eats like 20 something in regular usage, at least that's what they say

Will be interesting to see how many OEMs support up to 80W. From what I can tell online the M3 Pro can hit those Cinebench numbers with about 50W. I mean 80W isn’t too far from the 100-110W my M1 Ultra Mac Studio draws as total system power while maxing out CPU and GPU with various powered devices connected, so I’d be more inclined to think you’d see the 80W mode more frequently in some desktop mini PCs where it won’t hit battery life and can be cooled adequately

He did?

how would he compare when it hasn't been released yet, did you even watch the video?

@@metamon2704 but he literally had it in his hands… and he even showed benchmarks of it compared to M3, might as well compare to MacBooks completely…

This snapdragon x chip can compete with the base M3 chip that Apple offers, from last year. These chips will be released along side laptops that will go to market in 2025, when the M5 chips would be releasing. Kinda still lagging behind and playing catch up.

@@A_GodApple most likely benchmarks given by the marketing team. Remember this is early access so just because he has the products in his hands doesn't mean he has free reign to test everything. This tactic or concept is not new with these companies.

Microsoft ones will take photos every seconds of your screen. It's wonderful!

Exactly. Oh wait, I don't use Winblows! 😂

@@cameronbosch1213 bro you fucking killed him

​@@cameronbosch1213🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Then let whatever junk you use do it

Yeah, same. I still don’t really like the weird way 60fps looks

is this a new KZfaq update?

Yeah it's shoving cause MS is doing it. If this was Apple's product then this would have been called "innovation" by Apple themselves their fan boys.