Middle Earth SBG Battle Report - Lothlorien vs. Mordor

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Guerrilla Miniature Games

Guerrilla Miniature Games

Жыл бұрын

Jay is back for another Middle Earth SBG game. His Lothlorien Elves face down my expanded Mordor forces in this 500pt game!
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@mennorach
@mennorach Жыл бұрын
You cannot support something with a bigger base than the supporting spear armed warrior. So the orc could not support the troll. On the other hand, a troll with spear could support an orc.
@shinankoku2
@shinankoku2 Жыл бұрын
That’s what LotR needed: Gandalf yelling “suck it, Witch King!!”
@R3deye119
@R3deye119 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy the banter between you both, makes watching even more fun
@M.Melnick
@M.Melnick Жыл бұрын
This was fun the watch, the banter between you both was what made this for me
@dustinchristiansen3381
@dustinchristiansen3381 Жыл бұрын
More MESBG and with Jay! this is the best.
@johnrick846
@johnrick846 Жыл бұрын
Great battle report you forgot some rules and got some rules wrong. 15:00 you forgot to do terror checks for the elves charging the trolls. you do not gain the benefit of a shield while you have a bow even when mounted. you have to have expert rider. you can not support a base size larger than your base size but you can support a base size smaller than your own. only the models you charge get knocked prone so those who counter charged do not get knocked prone. All the elves have eleven blades so they win duel roles from 3-6 and evil wins on 1 or 2. 31:12 you got barge wrong. it is push away 3 in, no strikes and then you roll a d6 and move that much to move into another fight. magic happens in the movement phase 35:45 the throwing stone is 12 in range, to me that did not look like 12 in but I could be wrong. 37:16 for mounts you can chose which stat you can use. so for warg riders they can strike at strength 4 also for ringwraiths they lose a point of will for every combat they fight in. 41:45 there was a duel roll but the elf captain is fight 6 so they would have beaten gothmog. 41:18 you can not stand up if you are charged.
@foehammer1172
@foehammer1172 Жыл бұрын
"only the models you charge get knocked prone so those who counter charged do not get knocked prone." - that's not correct. any infantry models counter charging would also get knocked prone, if the charging cav model wins the combat. If it is counter charged by a cav model (not possible here) then the knock to the ground bonus would be negated. Unless of course, it was a monstrous charge.
@nraketh
@nraketh Жыл бұрын
I missed out on the middle earth glory days and regret it. This new release has really got me interested.
@WelcomeToLumbridge
@WelcomeToLumbridge Жыл бұрын
It's bigger then ever right now mate and growing strong, don't miss out this time it's your second chance!
@StevenMacLauchlan
@StevenMacLauchlan Жыл бұрын
Great time to jump in. Game is on the up!
@thislostendevour
@thislostendevour Жыл бұрын
Good batrep. Mordor really put in the work on turn 3.
@DarkAutumnScribe
@DarkAutumnScribe Жыл бұрын
I bought the original game, way back when Fellowship came out but really nothing since. I keep watching this and it makes me want to try again...
@commodusleitdorf2726
@commodusleitdorf2726 Жыл бұрын
Nice stuff! Good to see more Middle Earth!
@staszekkiersztyn7753
@staszekkiersztyn7753 Жыл бұрын
Świetny raport, jaj zwykle na największym poziomie. Wspaniale pomalowane figurki, rewelacyjne makiety. Dziękuję za tę ucztę ❤. Czekam na Sarumana 😀
@kingofthe1s214
@kingofthe1s214 9 ай бұрын
Transfix would be cast in the move phase, not shooting phase, but ultimately wouldn’t matter unless the wraith was moving before the target of the transfix.
@colinb9884
@colinb9884 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for anther LotR battle report. Definitely the best out there
@ckwasneski
@ckwasneski Жыл бұрын
Great to see more MESBG. The channel continues to be top tier entertainment.
@andrewpennington9221
@andrewpennington9221 Жыл бұрын
Did you miss terror checks for the Elves charging the Troll?
@worlds-in-conflict
@worlds-in-conflict Жыл бұрын
I completely forgot that...even after he reminded me Ash kept having to remind me...I have a small brain.
@twistedphoenix
@twistedphoenix Жыл бұрын
awwww
@atragonx7939
@atragonx7939 Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced this is a stealth Archer channel.
@danrconway
@danrconway Жыл бұрын
This was a blast to watch! GG!
@Kevin.Mitchell
@Kevin.Mitchell Жыл бұрын
That was a fun fight, thanks!
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
@23:28 elven-made weapons mean that at equal fight and equal duel roll elves win on a 3+ rather than 4+
@joemountains1539
@joemountains1539 Жыл бұрын
Fun game Ash. Those elves are troublesome!
@Sea_Nut
@Sea_Nut Жыл бұрын
Love the MESBG content!
@nicholaswalker4045
@nicholaswalker4045 Жыл бұрын
Great battle report. Remember elven blades win Tie duel rolls on a 3+
@odeegrotsniffer4166
@odeegrotsniffer4166 Жыл бұрын
This dude seems like a joy to play against.
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
@26:14 elf is probably within harbinger of evil of the witch-king? in that case he would have failed the terror check
@odeegrotsniffer4166
@odeegrotsniffer4166 Жыл бұрын
This game looks so damn good.
@jkre
@jkre 8 ай бұрын
In the duel tie, it should be 1 to 2 evil and 3 to 6 good, because the elf's have elven weapons that changes it
@johnweibel1128
@johnweibel1128 Жыл бұрын
Curious about who made the mat, boulders, and pine trees.
@denaxil9012
@denaxil9012 Жыл бұрын
damn, a lot of missed rules here but besides that very enjoyable.
@Hundmathr
@Hundmathr Жыл бұрын
The takeaway here is even if they're not the skull dice, don't use Ash's blue dice.
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 Жыл бұрын
@31:11 barge does not allow you to do to wound rolls, that is a heroic combat. You only have to call barge after winning the duel roll but instead of striking every model you are engaged with is moved 3 inch away in a direction of your choice and if no path of 3 inch is available they also go prone after which you get to move d6 inches and combat again
@Fire123Dude
@Fire123Dude Жыл бұрын
Not a huge issue but can lothlorien take 50% bows? I thought they were still restricted by the 1/3 rule. Great seeing MESBG on the channel! I'm still hoping you bust out some warmaster revolution at some point!
@GuerrillaMiniatureGames
@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Жыл бұрын
We fixed it a moment later lol
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 Жыл бұрын
Yeah mesbg again! Cool video
@dartmart9263
@dartmart9263 Жыл бұрын
Lol. “Calvary” (CAL-va-ry) is where Jesus died. “Cavalry” (CAV-al-ry) are mounted warriors.
@captainferrite
@captainferrite Жыл бұрын
Trolls making power attacks makes me giddy
@PMMagro
@PMMagro Жыл бұрын
What does the eye command?
@MoonyPoet
@MoonyPoet Жыл бұрын
More MESBG on the channel, obviously.
@ixthlegiondeserters5178
@ixthlegiondeserters5178 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get trees like that?
@edwindrood2816
@edwindrood2816 Жыл бұрын
Fun game
@pirate-chan4381
@pirate-chan4381 Жыл бұрын
Gothmog would have lost that first combat against the elven blade roll off. 1-2 vs 3-4-5-6
@RAWxxx07
@RAWxxx07 Жыл бұрын
I love the gaming mat where is it from?
@GuerrillaMiniatureGames
@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Жыл бұрын
UrbanMatz!
@theaitattooist
@theaitattooist Жыл бұрын
So many mistakes in this game, you guys should sit down and re read the rules. Here's the ones I picked up on: 1) you both rolled off to see who won the heroic, it's only the priority player who rolls, 1-3 goes evil player, 4-6 to good 2) not taking courage tests to charge the troll or the wraith 3) you ignored a few control zones, the first being the elf you charged the troll with, he entered the control zone of an orc, the trolls zone was already cancelled as he had already been charged by elves 4) you can't spear support unless the model being supported has the same size or smaller base size 5) you tried to cast a transfixed in the shoot phase after you engaged an elf in combat. Magic is cast during the models movement in the move phase 6) you did the barge completely wrong. The model losing moves back 3 inches and the troll then moves a D6 inches. The model moving back doesn't suffer any strikes 7) you didn't account for elvish blades on roll offs with joint duel rolls. Elvish blades win on 3-6, non elvish blades on a 1-2 8) every time a wraith is in combat they lose a point of will. Besides that, the general postponing and tactics were pretty dire on both sides.
@grodd1016
@grodd1016 Жыл бұрын
Did you give Jay the cursed blue dice?
@worlds-in-conflict
@worlds-in-conflict Жыл бұрын
I KNEW IT!
@powlaband6579
@powlaband6579 Жыл бұрын
Elven blades win tied fights on 3+
@HansPeter-qq3lc
@HansPeter-qq3lc Жыл бұрын
Love the terrain! Awsome job! I see ur kinda new in Mesbg u have messed up some rules.. :(
@Demonarrows1
@Demonarrows1 Жыл бұрын
Why cant you still do cuts without losing the starts of words?
@kylemckiernan1445
@kylemckiernan1445 Жыл бұрын
You can't support a troll with a normal dude
@D-Z321
@D-Z321 Жыл бұрын
Bring Jay back! Fun player, not so uptight about losing.
@worlds-in-conflict
@worlds-in-conflict Жыл бұрын
I get lots of practice at losing 🤤
@thefinalseries
@thefinalseries Жыл бұрын
Amongst the many rules you got wrong (which have been pointed out) when a model calls a heroic move they MUST move first and if they wish to move models within 6” they MUST call with me! When the captain called a move he wouldn’t have been able to charge to troll and his mates wouldn’t have been able to charge it either as the captain didn’t call with me! Would make the friendly suggesting to get the basics down before filming any content ❤
@KingInmature
@KingInmature Жыл бұрын
I fully agree. I like using battle reports as an aid to learn games and when they include mistakes, I "learn" wrong.
@foehammer1172
@foehammer1172 Жыл бұрын
The main point is they had a fun time and so what if a few mistakes were made? There's a lot to remember with the intricacies of the game. Some of the mistakes would have been correct in earlier editions, so they were just being misremembered. Many people don't play or don't attend tournaments for fear of getting the rules wrong, but if played in an open/friendly way, then honest mistakes are fine and happen all the time. A more experienced opponent will point them out for you and there should never be any concern about consulting the rule book if you aren't convinced. The best way to learn is to play the game. You will get plenty wrong but over time you will gain the knowledge, plus all the sneaky tactics that make this game so much fun. I for one, hope they keep showcasing MESBG on this channel, regardless of any mistakes they may make. It really is the most brilliant game with a great, thriving community behind it and if you are worried about learning things wrong, you'll no doubt be able to find a comment section full of clarifications!
@thefinalseries
@thefinalseries Жыл бұрын
@@foehammer1172 But they’re not learning? By making the same mistakes continually goes to show they’ve not learned. They haven’t even really got the core rules down, getting the odd technical bit wrong here and there is fine but they’ve not even mastered heroics which is a core mechanic of the game. Sure they’re still having fun but why record it and upload it to KZfaq when they’re playing the game horrendously wrong. If you wanna have casual games where rules don’t matter much just play privately…
@KingInmature
@KingInmature Жыл бұрын
@foehammer1172 and I'm glad they have fun, but for better or for worse, a battle report on KZfaq is content, and as such, expected to reach a certain quality level. I'm 100% ok with people making mistakes when they play privately and are learning a game. That's how you learn. It's just not what I personally expect from a battle report. In the same way, I would expect the end result of a painting tutorial to be a nicely painted mini.
@doubleoblit
@doubleoblit Жыл бұрын
@@KingInmatureI would expect that any intelligent human being would simply not watch the (free) content that doesn't live up to their (idiotic) expectations. But that expectation only applies to intelligent people.
@thingsmac
@thingsmac Жыл бұрын
I get shut off when people bring God into the discussion to praise a plastic model. It just spurs me to get in touch with the real world. On to a Canadian Prepper video..
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