MIDI Mapping Allen & Heath Xone K2 with Ableton

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Marcus Hayward

Marcus Hayward

12 жыл бұрын

MIDI Mapping my new Allen & Heath Xone K2 with Ableton to create a basic 4 track set-up with 4 channel audio CUE, 3 band total kill EQ and Super Luper FX on each channel.
Super Luper FX is no longer available. Originally it was available from:
tarekith.com/assets/TarekithDJ...

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@bikesbeersbeats
@bikesbeersbeats 3 ай бұрын
Still useful 11 years later. Literally the most straight forward, yet effective overview of setting up Ableton with the K2 for DJing. Thank you sir!
@Defex
@Defex 6 жыл бұрын
that push-turn-encoder hint was SOOO useful! thanks a lot!
@locket104
@locket104 8 жыл бұрын
Best vid I have seen on mapping so far thanks.
@Annexe_official
@Annexe_official 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video
@syedzaiditcc
@syedzaiditcc 6 ай бұрын
That’s all I needed. Thanks. Great explanation.
@AndreySamoilov
@AndreySamoilov 11 жыл бұрын
This is a very cool thing! And a very useful video for people you did! Respect!
@MiguelMontez
@MiguelMontez 11 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial, helped me with the leds configuration, Thanks
@galaxeon797
@galaxeon797 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice tut! Great job! I've decided now on a controller to help out Pushs' disadvantages as DJ controller) thanks)
@cjayamsterdam
@cjayamsterdam 11 жыл бұрын
i am selling my apc40, and bought this k2 today...thank you so much for this video...its brilliant.
@paulonuneesx
@paulonuneesx Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation , great help, thanks.
@victorposadadtm6473
@victorposadadtm6473 10 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@Lightsculptures
@Lightsculptures 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Mrcuss, great explanation, one thing though. while mapping the eq and faders make sure in the midi mapping browser the db max settings is set to 0 db for all the parameters. This will result in a much cleaner and not distorted sound.
@StevePottz
@StevePottz 7 жыл бұрын
Hi +mrcuss is there anyway to get the rotary encoders to be more responsive. As I saw you doing in the video, you have to spin them multiple times to get a full turn of a control from 1-127. Maybe a Max4Live device or something?? Right now the rotarys are pretty useless where you have to wind them up to get enough movement. Setting them to Relative Bin Offset is the opposite problem with them being too sensitive. Any ideas?
@eastera1496
@eastera1496 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you man :)
@mrhenryvon
@mrhenryvon 11 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks :)
@MrChrisKou
@MrChrisKou 12 жыл бұрын
Nice video there, to add bit more flex in your mapping i would suggest to use the Play button that is just above the "Audio From" label on each channel.
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 11 жыл бұрын
Glad it was of use...
@RandomGamesHDPlay
@RandomGamesHDPlay 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for video! I have problem with LED feedback on Windows 10 when I using my XONE K2 mapped in the Ableton and Traktor 50/50. I using LoopMIDI and MIDI-OX for make it possible, but I can get LED feedback only from Ableton or Traktor. Can you help me?
@sean8015
@sean8015 6 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome mapping Mate 👍 but the only thing is, I'm not able to download the super luper plugin for my Ableton 9.7.5. is thr an another option?
@eszterteszt
@eszterteszt 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcus, thank you for the video, it helped a lot to set up, but I am not able to use the cue button. I have followed the video as you showed. I’m trying to mix two tracks together, but when I’m pressing the cue, it is just turns off and on the headphone. In the program when I’m trying to set the first beat, I could not pause the track,and set the cue point for the first beat. Thank you for your answer, it is appreciated a lot! :)
@nhac-space
@nhac-space 9 ай бұрын
@darylmolloy3590
@darylmolloy3590 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! However I am having a problem, when I map the fader level it only fading up and down inside the headphones but not bringing the sound up on my speaker. How do I achieve this? Thanks 🙂
@massimomarazzo9180
@massimomarazzo9180 8 ай бұрын
Hi Marcuss, thanks for the video. I have a question: is there a way to see leds (lights) like in Push , so when i scroll down , i have on top the selected raw only? Thanks
@martinnarvarte2732
@martinnarvarte2732 7 жыл бұрын
se puede guardar de alguna manera el mapping? para que cuando lo habra ya este cargado? (i play with xone k2)
@AloneinFiction
@AloneinFiction 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this Video! Is there a way to Program a Fader to be Volume when its going up and a repeat effect when it goes down??
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
AloneinFiction Ableton Live does allow controls to be mapped more than once but as your 'Repeat' effect is activated and the fader mover down the volume will come down as well. I cant imagine a scenario where you would want the same control to have opposing functions on 2 parameters... You could try looking at 'MAX4LIVE' which will give you much more control over Ableton and mapping to the parameters.
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 12 жыл бұрын
You can map what you like once you know how to map the the basics. Personalise and create a map that suits your way of DJing.
@drkglcbslcchndkg7618
@drkglcbslcchndkg7618 Жыл бұрын
is it possible to use the upper section for abelton effects like reverb and stuff, and the lower section (the buttons u mapped cue and play) to traktor? or isnt this possible? and do you always need to have a connection to the laptop?
@FreeformRock
@FreeformRock 11 жыл бұрын
Nice video, is it possible to use this controller as mixer, with another midi controller, like the apc 40?
@erwangaillard1637
@erwangaillard1637 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Mrcuss thanks for your helpful tutorial, you uploaded this a long time ago but it is still very interesting. I have also some troubles to do like you. When I map my xone k2 it send notes on the 15 channel and i'd like to send CC signal like you in the video. Do you know how to do that ? Thanks !
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 8 жыл бұрын
+Erwan GAILLARD The Xone K2 sends MIDI data from all channels. You can select which channel during setup of the K2. To understand how to refrence MIDI data to Note date. Please refer to page 19 of the Xone:K2 user guide. www.allen-heath.com/media/Xone+K2_UG_AP8509_2.pdf
@paulonuneesx
@paulonuneesx Жыл бұрын
I did the configuration like the video and everything went well, however when I click on the pads (white) I hear other musical notes like piano ,does anyone have an idea how to solve this? Thanks
@Eug-vy5oh
@Eug-vy5oh 5 жыл бұрын
Hola, Me podrías ayudar a elegir entre la k2 y la 2D, siento que la 2D es mas versatil ya que podría conectarle una bandeja y utilizarla en conjunto con la pc, la consigo usada y mas barata que la K2, pero bueno la k2 la compraria nueva y hay mas variedad de mapeos disponibles en internet. Saludos desde Argentina. Hi, Could you help me choose between the K2 and the 2D, I feel that the 2D is more versatile since I could connect a xdj and use it in conjunction with the PC, I get it used and cheaper than the K2, but the K2 would be new and there are more variety of mappings available on the internet. Greetings from Argentina.
@gunhojung475
@gunhojung475 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Mrcuss thanks for your helpful tutorial ! but I still don't understand about the LAYER button and EQ Three? where do I need to get them??
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 8 жыл бұрын
+Gunho Jung Have a look (Google) at 'Latching layers' on the Xone K2. The Xone:K1 dosent have latching Layers. EQ three can be found under Audio Effects / EQ Three
@thr33falcon
@thr33falcon 6 жыл бұрын
THERES A HUGE ERROR HERE. YOU NEED TO MAP THE 'PLAY' FUNCTION TO THE BLACK ARROW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TRACK, NOT TO THE TOP CLIP. OTHERWISE YOU'LL CONSTANTLY ONLY PLAY THAT CLIP AND CANT SCROLL.
@rossveenstra5530
@rossveenstra5530 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I scrolled down to see your comment. Fixed it completely. Thanks.
@cjayamsterdam
@cjayamsterdam 11 жыл бұрын
the only thing i dont get, is how to hear the metronome now, while playing a track? i mean, for warping you need that function. but than cue and master out, both have to be at 3/4. please advice.
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 11 жыл бұрын
OK, i have since found a link to Super Luper V2: I have included a link in the description.
@matttanner1133
@matttanner1133 9 жыл бұрын
I don't have one of these, simply looking into it trying to learn the ways of MIDI Mapping and using Ableton Live (Using a DJ Controller + Serato at the moment). Just wondering though, rather than utilising all of the top controls for your EQ, is there a possibility in which you could use the endless controls at the bottom of the K2 to move left and right to select each "deck" ? I tend to create sets like playlists for driving or for the gym, so I'm not entirely bothered about mixing on the fly as such at the moment.
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
Matt Tanner Ableton Live is an excellent application but limited when it come to MIDI unless you use 'MAX for Live'. MAX for Live will open up endless possibilities with regards to MIDI mapping and other features within Ableton. I dont think you will be able to use the endless controls in the way you want unless you incorporate MAX. In saying that, there is a lot of flexibility with the Allen & Heath Xone:K2. perhaps look into 'Latching Layers' which will give you many more controls to map to Ableton.
@matttanner1133
@matttanner1133 9 жыл бұрын
I see! Appreciate your rapid respose, ill google and see what i can find...
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 11 жыл бұрын
What system have you got? PC / Mac and is the K2 just connected via USB
@costiemonster
@costiemonster 11 жыл бұрын
In the midi ports the input is not showing up and there for I cannot go any futher than this do you have any advice as the k2 and its drivers are installed correctly... Thanks, Matt
@anthonym2771
@anthonym2771 8 жыл бұрын
Could you please explain a little more behind the cueing function? Can you have 4 tracks running and be able to cue on each of them or does one track need to be dedicated only to the cue function??
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Moor It all depend on how you map your controller in Live but yes you can have 4 tracks playing and CUE each one in turn. Best practice is to map one channel and get it working the way you want prior to moving on to the next.
@cjayamsterdam
@cjayamsterdam 11 жыл бұрын
found it i think: "audio from" has to be set to master as well, per track. :)
@cebollack
@cebollack 9 жыл бұрын
HI, Your tutorial was really helpful to me. I have a problemn though, once a configure the power on setup to scroll between clips, I don't know how to launch the different clips, 'cause you show how to launch the 1st one, so I can't figure out how to do it without using all my buttons. Would you help me please?
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
Mauro Chianea Hi, Im not sure i understand exactly... Are you talking about 'Latching Layers' on your controller (Xone:K2)?
@cebollack
@cebollack 9 жыл бұрын
No, i'm talking about launching different clips in the same channel. I can scroll between them but to play each clip i have to configure different buttons. One for each clip
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
Mauro Chianea Oh OK. I think i got it. When you map your controller you need to map 'Track Launch' as your primary PLAY. As you scroll between 'Clip Slots' the Track Launch will play whichever clip you have selected.
@cebollack
@cebollack 9 жыл бұрын
Oh you're the best. Thanks
@tomsooty
@tomsooty 2 жыл бұрын
those starting parameters for the knobs are set to -12 db for the 12 o clock position. how do you fix this. you didnt fix in the video.
@thr33falcon
@thr33falcon 6 жыл бұрын
appreciate the concise narration! just wish we could see your ableton screen, its too poor quality
@MrGogocad
@MrGogocad 10 жыл бұрын
When you cue, the LEDS dont light, like when u press play. How do u make the leds light up for cueing? Thanks
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 10 жыл бұрын
Ableton is a little restricted when it comes to MIDI SEND so not everything can be mapped straight out of the box so to speak. The difference between PLAY and CUE is the way Ableton reacts to them as commands. Both are seen as note ON/OFF messages but Ableton recognises PLAY differently to CUE. I dont know why... There is a solution but it involves the use of 'MAX' for Live. Using this you can create a custom patch that will give you much more control over MIDI.
@MrGogocad
@MrGogocad 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 11 жыл бұрын
Dont see why not... Just map the controls in your chosen software to the controls of the controller. The only thing you would struggle to map is a cross fader if you use one...
@danielmartinez9767
@danielmartinez9767 12 жыл бұрын
hellow man, i think you need add loop, and various effects... but in other layer no???
@blackcube200
@blackcube200 9 жыл бұрын
6:45 What the plugin?
@charlyroom
@charlyroom 9 жыл бұрын
Hello. I just bought the Xone K2 but I can not configure it in Ableton Live 9. I'm working on mac Mavericks, I do not know if this is the problem, I installed the drivers for mac X2 XONE an error was generated. Please, help me!
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
1st things 1st. Is the K2 configured and working correctly with your Mac?
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out at this point that there is NO driver required for the K2 on Mac as it is Class Compliant. The 'ERROR' you had may have been the result of trying to update the units firmware using software that is NOT compatible with OS X 10.9 Mavrics. I would recommend updating the units Firmware using a PC or older version of OS X then connecting it to your Mac. Once it is working correctly move on to Ableton... Update the units Firmware using software available from the Allen & Heath K2 web pages.
@charlyroom
@charlyroom 9 жыл бұрын
***** The problem was solved. Thank you very much for the advice.
@aleparmi
@aleparmi 11 жыл бұрын
the link doesn't work anymore :(
@mrcuss
@mrcuss 11 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong mate, Sorry. If you send me a message with an email addy i will send it to you.
@AndreySamoilov
@AndreySamoilov 11 жыл бұрын
O! Thanks many! Thanks a lot!
@AndreySamoilov
@AndreySamoilov 11 жыл бұрын
hi man! Realy good video! But I have a problem. Super Looper FX about which you said: It can be found online and it is free. I could not! None of this is as you have the video! Can you help me - and send it to me. Or to say, where you can download it. Thanx!!!
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