I use a mindburner midi Medusa that lets me switch 3 inputs to any of 10 outputs. I have 1 input connected to my code 61, one input and 1 output connected to my iPad via Bluetooth leaving the third input for a keystep 37, or any of my myriad of other controllers. Even with this setup I still don’t have enough outputs so eventually I’m going to purchase another Medusa as they work really well. I feed audio from my synths into an 8 channel Behringer audio interface and from there into my iPad. Although I’m looking to buy an adat and expand the behringer to 16 channels.
@EchoKraft6 ай бұрын
I learned a lot! Excellent video ! I’m going to watch your other video for more in depth look. Thank you so much.
@CMedia874 ай бұрын
the best at explaning midi
@Atamone Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, An excellent explanation on the midi merger!! 🙏🙏
@NiamorH3 ай бұрын
That's a neat and cheap solution for sending midi data to synths from flexible sources. But in my case I wanted all the midi out from the synths to be connected (for patches dump purposes) so I went for a mioXL.
@splootyvision3 ай бұрын
The mioXL does look like a great bit of kit, might have to consider one of those for the future 🙂
@justinjbenjamin Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Perfect videos on these boxes.
@ridgerider74024 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thankyou
@brian-pu3yy5 ай бұрын
They never show the pluging stuff in details
@rudster23963 ай бұрын
I feel the U6 midi pro could do it all in one box no? Great explanation of the process, very helpful!
@splootyvision3 ай бұрын
Thanks - hadn't come across the CME products before, but looks like a flexible little box. It wouldn't quite do what I needed in my set up on its own and would still have to pair with a midi thru box I think, but looking at the specs and price it's killer value, even if did need multiple boxes . The only downside is it's usb powered, whereas the MIDI solutions boxes are self powered through the MIDI cables themselves. There's so many different options out there and so many different ways to solve the same issue, this is just how my set up sort of evolved 🙂
@rudster23963 ай бұрын
@@splootyvision yes my thoughts exactly. I wanted to go with a merger that is powered by midi but somehow got seduced by the versatility and price even though it means having to connect to a power bank. I might still get a 2in 2out merger for small novation circuit tracks set up and use the U6 as a splitter thru in the studio .
@mixmcinfraraveАй бұрын
I have
@MadelnMachines9 ай бұрын
Well explained! I guess it could be useful if you have a hardware sequencer and a midi keyboard you want to send to various synths and drum machines?
@splootyvision9 ай бұрын
Yep, the midi merge box helps add extra flexibility (if needed) especially when combined with the midi thru box. As in the video originally I had my Keystep 37 running to a midi thru box so that I could control any of my hardware synths from the keystep on my desk. Now I have the keystep, the keylab61 and the MODx plus also (not shown in the video) an FCB1010 pedal board running into the merge box and then onto the Thru box. This now means the Keystep and Keylab midi keyboards can control any of the 4 hardware synths I choose, the MODX can control the other 3 hardware synths (taking advantage of its 88 keys) and I can use the pedal board to control any one of the hardware synths as well. And can do all of that without having to move cables around as everything is ‘plumbed in’ so to speak 🙂
@andrewverran34988 ай бұрын
Great video, i have 4 of the DoreMIDI devices, MIDI MERGER, THROUGH, MIDI HOST, they all require external DC power, i dont understand how Midi Solution devices are passive and dont require any additional power for them to work ? Cheers PeaceFromOZ
@djpopcorn7 ай бұрын
at 4:08, why not also hook up the deepmind and brute? Especially since they have all those nice controllers
@splootyvision7 ай бұрын
The Deepmind and MatrixBrute are hooked to the PC via USB and so can effectively be used as MIDI keyboards mapping their controls to VSTs. In fact the Deepmind is ‘auto’ mapped to Omnisphere (with its Hardware integration) and I can control many Omnisphere parameters using the Deepmind 🙂. The merge box only has 4 ‘ins’ and these are taken up by the keystep, Keylab, MODX and my FCB1010 which gives me the flexibility I needed - I’d need some more little magic black boxes if I wanted to also route the DM and the MB.
@gabesoto6280 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just the video I was looking for. Do you need the MIDI Splitter box if you only had 2 synths to trigger? I saw 2 outputs on the MIDI merge but you have it going straight to the MIDI Splitter.
@splootyvision Жыл бұрын
If you've only got say 3 synths (1 as master and two as slaves for example) you should be able to just daisy chain them if they have midi thru ports. If you connect the first synth to the midi in of the next synth and then run from the midi thru of that to the midi in of the third synth. Then set them all to different midi channels (say 1,2 and 3). The you should be able to use the first synth to trigger the second one if you set its midi send channel to 2 and use it to trigger the 3rd synth if you set its midi send channel to channel 3. If you set them all to the same midi channel, all 3 will sound at the same time when you press a key on the first in the chain. Hope that made sense/helps. 🙂
@JbskMsj Жыл бұрын
Can this be used with 2 drum modules with only 1 midi out in each drum module?
@splootyvision Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it can, depends really on what your trying to do. Effectively if you connected both drum modules to the merger then their midi signals would both pass through and come out both of the outs on the midi merger. Or other way round you could connect each drum module to the 2 outs on the back of the merger and they would receive signals from anything connected to any of the 4 inputs on the quadra merge. Hope that helps 🙂
@brettsimmons4459 Жыл бұрын
Hiya graham thank for the great video, just a question though, when you have two or more devices plugged into the midi merger, which device becomes the master for clock so say if you where using the sequencer on the arturia keystep 37 etc ? if you could shed some light on this i think it would be a great help to myself and others !! many thanks and keep up the good work my friend !! thanks brett
@splootyvision Жыл бұрын
Hi there, great question and something I hadn't even considered when I plugged it all in. You need to configure which one you want to be the master. I've got 3 devices connected to the midi merge box but only 2 of them send out midi clock (the Keystep37 and the MODX). If I want the Keystep37 to be the master I just go into the MODX and turn the MIDI sync setting from 'Internal' to MIDI (the MODX then responds to the clock at the MIDI in which is coming from the Keystep and doesn't send any clock out of its own). The Deepmind, Matrixbrute, Neutron and MODX then all respond to the tempo changes I make on the Keystep. If I wanted the MODX to the be the master I would run another midi cable back into the MIDI in of the Keystep, set it's clock source to MIDI using the dip switches on the back and then go into the MODX set the MIDI sync to internal and the clock source to ON). Interestingly if I have both the Keystep and the MODX with their midi sync set to internal and they are both sending out midi clock, then it does confuse things, basically the Deepmind, Matrixbrute and Neutron get both clock signals and add them together e.g. if the keystep is set at 90 and the MODX at 100, the analog synths will show their tempos as 190 ! Hope that helps 🙂
@brettsimmons4459 Жыл бұрын
@@splootyvision Thank you graham that clears a few things up and explains what i now have to do ! i will now put this in to action and hopefully get it all to work as i want to using this method you have explained!! thank you for your time and effort very much appreciated !! take care my friend!! brett
@RaquelFoster Жыл бұрын
It's all pretty simple if your devices all fit into the category of either 'controller' or 'synth getting data from controller' and you sort out the topology so that you don't need to turn on Midi Thru on anything. But as soon as you use Midi Thru on a device which isn't the Master Clock ... You better hope the merger prioritizes the first port it gets a clock signal from, or things will get crazy. 😂
@deanwalliss873911 ай бұрын
@@RaquelFoster The Kenton merger does this. If I understand the workflow correctly, the first input to receive a Start message or a Song Position Pointer message with a value of zero becomes the master clock. After that the merger ignores clock from everyone else until another device sends either of those messages, therefore establishing itself as the boss. I don't own one, so I'm not clear how well this all works in practice.
@Maximus0917687 ай бұрын
I have E drums Roland TD4 and a drum trigger. With this box, can I plug both into this box the into the midi in on my presonus firebox. Separate, they work fine but I need the controller for extra pads(triggers). It is all used by Addictive Drums 2.
@infolla67698 ай бұрын
I want to edit my Matrix 1000 with a laptop and at the same time play it with my keyboard to hear what I am editing. Does this merger do the job I described? Thanks in advance.
@splootyvision8 ай бұрын
Should be what you are looking for: My assumption is that you have a midi keyboard, the matrix 1000 and a midi interface to connect the matrix to the pc. With a midi merge box you should be able to do the following. Midi OUT from Matrix to Midi IN on Midi interface Midi OUT from Midi Interace to Midi IN on Midi Merge box. Midi OUT from keyboard to Midi IN on Midi Merge box. Midi OUT from Midi Merge box to Midi IN on Matrix. This would mean that both the Keyboard Midi and the midi data from the PC (via the Midi interface) are merged and both sent to the single Midi IN on the back of the Matrix, allowing you to both edit the Matrix and play it with your keyboard at the same time. Given that you only need two inputs on the midi merger box you could get away with the MIDI Solutions ‘Merger’ which has 2 ins and 2 outs, rather than the ‘Quadra Merge’ which has 4 ins and 2 outs. As far as I can tell that would all work, but may be worth checking with the guys at MIDI solutions, you can email them at info@midisolutions.com. Hope that all helps 🙂
@infolla67698 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed explanation! I will also email these guys for further clarification. Many thanks!
@renwestmaria Жыл бұрын
what about latency issues with the thru and merger?
@splootyvision Жыл бұрын
None that I’ve experienced 🙂
@patsalty Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the answer is probably no, but is there a way to merge the inputs from 2 different midi channels to a single, completely different output channel? I have a few synths that only have the ability to have 1 channel for both input and output, so merging signals then going into a keystep pro and back into those synths makes the setup pretty much un-usable due to horrible midi loops. Toggling off local mode on the synths is too tedious, and dealing with arturia software on the fly isn't feasible either. Thinking this device wouldn't be the solution...maybe a midi event processor or router would be better
@splootyvision Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t think a midi merge box on it’s own would do the trick. Tbh my advice would be to maybe message the guys at MIDI solutions as they may be able to help with a solution. For example they have a ‘midi router’ which allows you to ‘rechannel’ midi signals but again don’t think one of those on it’s own would fit the bill, probably a combination of gear. Sorry couldn’t help more.
@patsalty Жыл бұрын
@@splootyvision thanks! Yeah I actually have one of the routers on the way, hopefully that solves it
@NyakzOTSD6 ай бұрын
I have a Arturia Keystep pro, Kawai mp7se, Dsi 6, Trigon 6, OBX8, two voice pro, Moog, mic live and two voice pro! I want to use my Arturia, mp7se, Mlc or DSI to control the other synths while still having the ability to swap master keyboards! Would I purchase a midi merger?
@splootyvision6 ай бұрын
Hi - yep a midi merger will do what you want. There's various options you could use. One way would be similar to my set up in this video I did, where I have 3 keyboards that I can effectively swap between as masters. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oayWaZSGyMe9pGg.htmlsi=Du7CjpTtTKdmo8_Y For yours I'd say you need a midi merge box and an 8 port midi through box if I've counted correctly 🙂. Connect the 4 'master' synths to the merger, then connect the merger to the 8 x thru box, then connect the thru box to the midi ins on the other 4 synths and also back into the midi ins on the 4 'master' synths. Then set all synths to separate midi channels e.g. 1-8. With this the Arturia, MP7, Mpc and DSI should be able to play any synth you have just by changing there midi transmit channel. The advantage also is that there's no daisy chaining so if you don't want to, you don't have to turn everything on in order for signals to reach synths at the end of the chain. There are other possibly more complete 'all in one' options like the Conductive Labs MRCC or the iConnectivity MiOXL, which although more expensive may work out more economical in the long run if your studio expands 🙂
@NyakzOTSD6 ай бұрын
@@splootyvision thank you so much
@dji.e.38689 ай бұрын
Would this work if want all machines to play in sync
@splootyvision9 ай бұрын
For that you really need a THRU box rather than a MERGE. There's another video on my channel that goes into more detail on the THRU box. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5mBo8eA2bKpY6M.htmlsi=tc60bMEoFNpbA3Lc The MERGE box comes in handy if you've got multiple synths that you want to use to control other synths. For example with a THRU box you can have one master keyboard controlling say 4 other synths. But by adding a MERGE box as I did you can have more that one masterkeyboard as such; as in the video I can control all my hardware from either the small keystep on my desk, my larger keylab61 or from my MODX. But it's the THRU box that keeps everything in sync. Also bear in mind whether you're synths have THRU ports or not. If they do and you've only got a few then you could just 'daisy chain' them with the master at the start of the chain sending it's clock to all the others to keep them in sync.
@user-dp2kd4mm5y7 ай бұрын
How do you get that sound in The neutron?
@splootyvision6 ай бұрын
Hi - sorry only just came across this comment and realised hadn't replied, couldn't remember exactly how I did this patch - but have managed to pretty much recreate it. Roughly speaking it's; Both oscillators set to saw wave with osc mix in the middle / Osc1 range set at 32 and OSc2 range set at 16 / Osc Sync button turned on / Freq at 6 / Resonance at 4 / mod dept 5 / env depth 6 / noise 6 / vca bias 0 / LFO shape sin with rate 3 and key sync on / Envelope 1 everything at 5 / Envelope 2 ADSR dials at 7, 3,5 and 0 / Overdrive dials at 1,6 and 8 / Volume at 7 / Delay, Sample&Hold, Slew rate limiter and Attenuators - all dials at 0. Turn all the knobs etc to these setting and you should get a similar sound 🙂