wait i watched hereditary....but cult?? oh shit is that that paimon thing

Idk yo Hereditary was all about the curse being in their blood line. This is more of a classical cult.

@raine. that’s fucked

Implication Cult in hereditary - Islam Cult in midsomar - Christianity

@@kalyanv3092 how so?

That's the point of their cult. They share each other's emotions, not just Dani's

Dude yes

Exactly lol

we need a hug instead

What did she see in the room?

Torture works similarly. Put someone in a vulnerable/painful state and subject them to terrible stress with the torturer, then in comes the 'good cop' who stops the torturer, maybe gives you some water, makes you a bit more comfortable...and now that they've done these nice things for you, answer some questions. By stressing the subject and then then 'coming to their rescue', over and over again, it breaks down that reality that everyone involved is doing this to you, the 'good cop', the 'bad cop', all the same thing, manipulating your vulnerability. "I stopped him from hitting you, you don't need that, right? Here, have some water. Want a smoke? See, this doesn't have to be so bad, I'm reasonable, I'm your friend, I just want some info, not to hurt you. Just answer my questions and we can be friends and this will be over, ok? Oh, you don't want to answer questions? Him him some more...".

@@RobertMorgan Similar technique is used in brainwashing soldiers to come to your side: you are showing emphaty. God, it gived me goosebumps 🥶

What was she crying over tho (I haven’t watched the movie )

@@abeeragulkhattak25 her boyfriend was having sex with somebody while naked women stood around and watched

what was actually happening in this scene? can someone explain pls

FINALLY BRUH I WAS WAITING FPR SOMEONE

Tbh true yet i somewhat like the way people have different point of view on this scene for some reasons

@Harrison Stott Its all the impressionable women who followed Charles Manson and the Nightstalker guy. Not being a sexist but women empowerment and all, it seems like they REALLY get manipulated into cults easily.

@@goldenyuri3556 Probably because there are more women joining cults than men.

@@goldenyuri3556 yeah like how dare there are traumatized women in this world, fucking weak bitches need to grow a pair 🤣👌😌

why you respect a satanic movie made by hollywood

@@desertmoonlee6631 sorry if you are not into it. But some people like me love movies about cults like this

@@desertmoonlee6631 tin foil hatter detected

@@desertmoonlee6631 it's not a Hollywood movie, it was made by a New York based production company, and filmed in Brooklyn (opening scenes) and Hungary (Standing in for rural Sweden) It's also pagan if anything. Nothing to do with Satan or the Judeo-Christian pantheon.

@@bbw283 You've got it twisted, us tin foil hatters love these kinds of movies

@bryson heath Just dont let the parent catch you, they will kill you.

It’s so funny to see babies faces change when you copy them.

It works better with toddlers but yes it amazing

bryson heath And

ive done that before... it worked, but as soon as you stop simulating its crying, it cries back again. LOL

Exactly! thank you.

can u tell me what she sees ....... i didnt see the movie ,,,,,,,, im here after seeing a meme about it

Thank god your in this comment section. I thought everyone here was creepy saying how beautiful this is when it’s actually disturbing af.

@@cal4906 Using who? sorry i didn't watch the movie and i am not planning to cause it seems to scary:(

The context is disturbing of course but the method that they're using is extremely cathartic, as it's suppose to be. You can seperate the two and still find it beautiful

Wow

What did she see in the room?

@@michaelvasconcelos1788 her boyfriend taking part in a graphic mating ritual with another woman- it’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but it’s just as intense as her response here

I'm currently watching that part right now where he explains it!

@@aliciabanks2293 where can I watch it?

I come here and watch this every so often to not explode.

Mee too i wanna join this dope ass cult

I thought I was the only one

Aino yeah just without the being killed at 72 years old part lmao

Right? Where do I find friends who will cry/scream with me and share my pain even though they don't have to?

Aj Romero if she gets in for little woman and not this it’s disgusting worse if Saoirse takes her lead spot.

I've only had a panic attack once in my life and it was exactly like this.

exactly i am suffering panic attacks and they look exactly like she portrayed them

lol "panic attack"??? she's crying and wailing because her heart was broken after her boyfriend cheated on her. that's not a panic attack, that's called sadness and grieving and loss.

@@headphonic8 those things are not mutually exclusive, you can be grieving and have a panic attack

This somewhat describes what I feel. Although I believe the scene does kinda stand for the cult resonating with her cries, it's also reminiscent of a panic attack I had, and her yells turning back to her makes everything feel even more hopeless, it sucks

It's a difference of mindset. Some people are ready and waiting to be integrated into a system of mass emotional bonding; while the rest of us just want people to leave us the fuck alone. Keep your group "therapy" to yourself. I absolutely hate group bonding -- I can feel the manipulation and the ignorance of those that don't understand their own manipulation as they attempt to pull my heart strings. That's why I can't do church or any form of group bonding ritual, even workplace events for employee bonding. I did AA once when I was a young adult and had a drinking problem, and that creeped me out, as well. Sobered right up. Seeing everyone enter these roles of subservience and command by making you feel welcome -- no bueno, mi amigos. Hivemind is for insects.

disturbed? this is what they are making us think

It makes me uncomfortable because I’ve been there. Makes me very uneasy, shows how well acted this was.

Yep, emotional pain on the level of severe physical pain. Where you are going between trying to breath, crying and screaming.

@@chandlerrose4545 " I'Ve bEen ThEre, i HavE an AnxiEty , i'M so SpEcial"

@@jasamkojajesam6108 dude shut up

@@jasamkojajesam6108 that's not what was written.

That's the thing about manipulation, it has to be foggy and questionable enough that it doesn't feel like manipulation anymore.

lovebombing

U can see one of those lady who let him drink that drug ..now weeping with her Lol

OMG AYA AYMAN I WHOLE HEARTILY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!! This scene literally triggers me to the max and I hate everything about it. I wanna take everyone that says the other girls are “practicing sisterhood” and fucking strangle the shit out of them. I legit would start crying even harder if somebody did this to me while I was crying, because I would feel like they were mocking me because I know that their fake crying. It just fucking sucks. This is so messed up and it really is so sad.

Finally someone explains everything so fucked up about this scene I’ve notice it felt really suspicious and Dani looked like she wanted to get away from them but was sadly caught in their grip, Ive been trying to understand why everyone in the comments find this “libEraTing and bEautiFul” and seeing other comments that say it’s manipulation. This comment really helped a lot of my questions thank u

I just don't get it like, she's allowed to feel this way and obviously Christian is an asshole but he didn't CHEAT on her he was sexually assaulted

Someone smart. Wow.

Frr

It's probably not really mockery since it's clear from the film that the Harga (like other cults) don't have much use for the idea of individuality or personal boundaries but instead sincerely believe themselves to be deeply connected to each other meaning that the pain of one is somehow the pain of all -- but yes, it is very manipulative.

Yes but that is the point of the movie - she was alone and nobody was there for her, so she was easy to manipulate. That is why she stays in the end.

I think there’s multiple ways to interpret it. We do see throughout the movie that the Hårga do seem to share emotions.

Yeah these commenters are fucking wack

I was trying to laugh at this scene but I was low key terrified by it. I think is the only scene I genuinely was scared cause all of the above in your comment

I think they do feel empathy, but in a insane sort of way. They are basically in a cult and they do believe in solidarity and happiness. Brainwashed, but genuine (or at least they think that they are genuine).

@The Duke Of Flem Ari Astor himself has mentioned that the cult did nothing to Christian that he didn’t at least partially consent to (at least up until this scene). They did drug and r*pe him (I censor the word for my own comfort as a survivor) but the directorial intent was to show that the Harga “seduced” or lured him into the act instead of forcing him. I think that’s why Dani’s reaction is so brutal; on some level she knows that Christian wasn’t tricked, but that he actually wanted to betray her all along. Again this is me speaking as a survivor of abuse, s*ual assault and trauma, so the perspective might seem unusual, but that’s where I think the beauty of this film truly shines through. Everyone looks at it and sees something different. That’s just good filmmaking, isn’t it?

That's because in that moment, Dani *is* very much a "distressed animal" -- she's in so much agony that all logic and reasoning and thought has fled. Although she isn't consciously aware of it, the Harga deliberately set her up to discover Christian having sex with another woman in order to drive a final wedge between them (why else would Dani's escort choose to stop right there at that time?). Dani realized on some level that Christian was already checking out of the relationship and just going through the motions, but she had not been able to let go since he was one of the only sources of security she had left after her sister unexpectedly killed herself and their parents. Witnessing Chistian's apparent betrayal severed the last tie which Dani had to her previous life -- and then the Harga women offered her their comfort so that she would turn to them.

It's because they're all in a cult too.

I 10000000% agree with you... Those who are glorifying or justifying these scenes are the ones who are the most susceptible to being sucked into a cult especially with love bombing.

True !

If people find comfort in being in a cult, so what? SO WHAT?????

@@ewidontlikeyou because it takes away your autonomy and is a form of abuse?

Sameee

for real though. i had a terrifying experience taking ayahuasca and the guy who was sitting with us did something similar and it really really helped.

EXACTLY what came to my mind while watching this. Collective empathy, shared emotion, complete catharsis.

M. AZUL Yes.

It's actually a manipulation tool.

Stop digging that great meme out of it's grave and dressing up it's corpse as a girl.

@@AndrewGiles688 this meme is on its peak

@@vasvas8914 nah. It's been dead for months now.

Spooky Boi :(

top comment right there

Kowalski when all of them are on they period 💀

I fuckin' knew it!

top comment right there

"locker room talk"

Hahaha. Yep, everybody hyperventilating and hysterically crying together.

Also I just realized that the second shift that happens while they all cry together makes it so that they all sob in unison and the way that they cry requires deep, breaths that are let out slowly so not only are they validating her in her feelings but they’re also keeping her from hyperventilating

It's all manipulation.

anyone who responds to me eats poopy for lunch and dinner and is proud 😎😎

@@Aliannaxenos They're doing it to manipulate her.

Gregory House two types of midsommar fans lmao

Yeah, two different ways of manipulation.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT more like two ways of reacting to someone's grief.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT True, but one uses a communal, shared empathy. Of course, it's a wacked out cultist manipulation, but was oddly what Dani was needing/craving.

@@aloevera3932 Nah, it's withholding vs lovebombing.

Being silent is just as effective when it’s genuine empathy, but I think in this case you’re right, seeing how the boyfriend is throughout the movie.

She is naive that's the problem

@@armyshope How tf is she naive?

@@briatingx1259 because she doesn't realise what they do behind her back and she got indoctrinated

it can feel different on shrooms

They are. They don’t care. They’re acting.

agree with you

never watch a horror movie in a theater, they are always ruining every scene with laughter bc they cant deal with the psychological pressure.

laughter is a very common factor if you have extreme fear or anxiety at the moment.

I think it’s because people aren’t used to seeing something so bizarre and unusual such as this scene, that is can come off almost too silly for them to take serious!

I had a couple behind me they were in their late 30s/40s and wouldn't stop talking/laughing like they were in their own house. The woman said twice "this is one of the shittiest movies I've ever watched on theaters". Then my friend (respectfully) told them to stop talking. Seriously it was super annoying and it was immature of them. Fortunately they were quiet for the rest of the movie.

I hope you're doing better now but the guy in thar scene was drugged and raped

@@bazdog4464he was drugged but that’s it, he coulda adopted but didn’t

he didnt cheat, he was drugged and Raped

Tbh I wanted to cry with her. Like the support of not being alone in this pain is so powerful. It's feels like such a release to let out anger, fustration and pain. oh my gosh, literally everytime I watch this I get chills because of the realness of her cry; the strong breaths and the uncontrollable shouts of anger while you're in such utter pain.

@@badgirlshoney5893 I could have not said it better myself: Dani's raw crying gets me everytime as well.

The lovebombing...

@@chandlerrose4545 They don't.

I feel like this scene allowed Dani to consider just joining in and staying as the queen. Who wouldn't want to join a very emotion-driven, empathic collective family unit, after having gone through so much?

That's what I got from it too. I didn't view it as a form of manipulation, I viewed it as a cathartic moment for all the women.

Luke Swigart I agree. I believe this was a genuine attempt to comfort and let go of the pain. It’s is rather beautiful.

I saw it as a seen of empathy too, if you put a scene in context of the whole film everytime we see dani crying she isolates herself and cries alone. In this scene she finally has a supportive family to share her pain

Or they're just crazy ass bitches.

Yeah its nice of them to relieve her pain after they basically made her boyfriend fuck another girl

Although I understand what you're saying and why you would see it this way, I think you missed the point of the scene from "Silence Of The Lambs." Buffalo Bill is actually not mocking his victim when he imitates her screams because he's actually not a torture killer in the strict sense of the term. He kills his victims quickly and only mutilates their bodies after death instead of killing them slowly and painfully as a torture killer does. He keeps his victims imprisoned for several weeks before killing them and starves them in order to loosen their skin -- most likely to make it easier for him to flay them. I think you need to review the scene on question since you're missing an important detail. What is Buffalo Bill doing while he's screaming? Both of his hands are clutching the front of his shirt and he's pulling it away from his chest to make it seem as if he has breasts underneath. He's not imitating her in order to mock her -- he's imitating her because he wants to *be* her (Buffalo Bill wants to be a woman but was rejected for surgical reassignment and is trying to make himself a "woman suit" out of tanned human skin). He's allowing himself to pretend for a moment that he is a woman and tries to cry and scream like her.

Shalon Coleman ah man that expression of distress shattered my heart 💔

What did she see

What did she see? I didn't watch the movie.

@@Helena-uq1bo Her boyfriend of 4 years cheating on her via a mating ritual.

@@daishabowlds4421 he was raped but ok.

I was just thinking the same thing!

I want to be supported in my next birth like this lol

Yeah I thought the same thing. There is a good chance this scene was inspired by that scene (and that's perfectly fine).

Only that wasn't a tool of manipulation.

Gregory House Everything in that show is a tool of manipulation

It's lovebombing.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT Dude, you are EVERYWHERE in the Midsommar movie clips with the same comment 10,000 times lol

@@DrGregoryHouseIT it's a film. Are you high or just incredibly stupid?

@@Pepper_Meadow he has serious issues. It's a film for fucks sake, it's not a documentary

Why is nobody asking what did she see? What is in the room??

The Nomad OMG! 😂

The Nomad great, now I’m always gonna remember this scene everytime a rubber ducky squeaks

Hahahaha

I love those damn chicken things..I have to squeeze them everytime I see it in the store 😂

Omg-

What does cheating have to do with this? The dude got drugged. The cult literally raped Christian.

You don't really need imagination to come up with the sick idea of people copying your cries and painful wails as support and sharing pain. It's all real. This is what cults do. These women are master manipulators. This is how Dani was fully convinced to join their little cult. Cults prey on vulnerable, lonely people to manipulate them into joining.

@Lorenzo Peserico her bf was cheating on her w/ a girl in a mating ritual, he was drugged and forced to do it but she, Dani, doesn’t know it

This film was a fucking shitfest, don't kid yourself

@@sweetmimosamommysaranghae3163 in my opinion its not cheating if hes beinf r4ped lmao.

@Lorenzo Peserico watch the movie

same i got so scared for a second

apolo apolon sheesh those wailings in porn?? That sounds horrifying

Might be easier to explain than parts of this movie.

apolo apolon LMAO

Just alike my whole neighborhood.

You kinda were though

Yes

I found this scene really really painful but at the same time beautiful, so much solidarity with the her sister's pain, so much relief.

The empathy seems sincere but this certainly is a covert form of indoctrination.

More like manipulation.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT more like it's a film and not even remotely real but here you are acting like it's a documentary because you're so obsessed with so-called "manipulation". Maybe seek professional help as you clearly have an unhealthy obsession with a fictional horror film.

Quieter themes? Its the main theme of the movie lol

Black Swan it's really great!

Douglas Batista and this is up there with those performances if not better acting wise and not even a spirit nomination. Florence hasn’t got a single recognition for this and basically dragged Saoirse to awards. How Renee is sweeping is beyond me.

Joker is a good movie

Joker is great. I love Ledger and phoenix’s version

beacuse you need a promotional campaign for to win the Oscar. That's why Meryl Streep won over Rooney Mara at 2011. Florence should have something similiar for to be nominated. It doesn't matter how good is her job here.

I'm so sorry. I hope you are doing much better now

Ohhh how I hate the one who cheated on you... I hope they die a slowly death

I almost cried because of how uncomfortable I felt. Which is weird for me (?)

You know the pain of having a boyfriend who just got date raped?

If you read the directors cut, he was tempted and he was going through lust from the time skin the fool dance when Maja kicked him from the side and was gazing at her when she would look or not look. He was already going through the spell. Not only that in the directors cut he was told, to make a decision to mate with Maja, but he wanted to think about it. When ulka gave him the drink he was going to turn it down, but looked at Maja and knew if he drank it he was going to be dazed and drugged ( almost like a way of numbing and not feeling bad for cheating on Dani). I literally thought the same... but he knew that the drink was going to get fucked up and he went with it. I watched this movie so many times and to make you open your eyes even more... he looked at Maja a lot, they were both eye fucking throughout the whole movie. When he finished climaxing he felt guilt and knew what he did was wrong. When they ended up numbing him and not being able to talk or walk... he was screaming inside and begging Dani to forgive him. Of course it was too late.

Everyone’s having a breakdown on drugs in the woods.

All that shit going on would give you a bad trip sooo fast 😂

Right? Your entire family's been murdered, you're in a cult, your boyfriend just cheated on you, people are dying- here have some more ayahuasca.

@@mesmer3780 "cheated on you". he was raped. did you watch the film? smh.

@@coreyjoines1369 but to her, it seemed like he was cheating on her. It's what the cult wanted her to believe.

I really like this scene as well as the community shows it's success and failure of being a community. With Harmony the community is obviously a strong comfort of support and it presents the community as empathic/ as part of the girl. However, it later switches to the community mimicking Christian's sex literally after this scene and it just shows how the community feels disconnected from reality. His invasion of privacy makes the audience feel a sense of discomfort, distrust and lack of empathy with the community. I am literally in love with the director.

Well, this scene also alludes that Dani literally have No One left out there, in here she's one among the other, out there she is no one, alone and abandoned.

Yes. This scene also a proof that dani IS officially part of that community. They only sharing their emotion with their members

Lol...no. it's about how one gets indoctrinated into a cult

@@AjaxNixon you do be sayin da truth doe

Cinnamon Swirls they did haha, they wanted her to so she would become vulnerable enough to basically make her insane and become the new may queen. That one lady did suggest she shouldn’t making it seem like she cared enough, but it would have been weird probably for them to just absolutely force her to not go see, cause Dani can make her own decisions or some shit, idek haha thats what i get from it

That's the point. The entire movie is pretty much Dani being indoctrinated.

@@keremdelialioglu2197 yeah, and the countless comments here who see this scene as a positive are really illuminating to how fucked people are

What did she see

@@ambnny i think she saw her bf have sex with another woman in a ritual

I think both views are important and hit even harder when viewed as one. Yes, support and community are extremely necessary to human beings. And when someone has gone through the worst and are at their most vulnerable, support and community can be used as a tool to indoctrinate them into whatever you want. Dani is at her worst here: she has no family, her friends are gone, and her boyfriend has hurt her. She has nothing, but she doesn't turn to this cult because she feels alone. She turns to them because she feels loved and understood by them. She feels safe with the Hargas because their manipulation wasn't through fear or force. It was through love and empathy. They truly think they're helping Dani. Which makes it all so much worse

thank you

Sure. Just go join a cult that murders people for your emotional comfort.

I would pay for this kind of therapy tbh

I'll cry with you, Tom

@@BHalliwell08 Thanks man. Same.

Tom Crowther I agree. I envy this support she gains from the followers.

I give her credit for her work. This credit is transferable to most accredited institutions!

Lol, double edged sword comment: You mean the support of the group of women cheering on the mating ritual, or the criers? It could go either way.

This is not "female support" but manipulation

I hope your ex wasn't in a cult lol

What is wrong with you people. Stop treating this cult like some kind of salvation for Dani. They tricked her into their lair, drugged her boyfriend into fucking one of thir own and manipulated her broken feeling so that she couldnt leave. Oh yeah, and they murdered all other tourists They are NOT her friends.

вава ывыв no the whole point of the movie apart from being a horror seemed like a deep dive into what makes people join cults and a big part of that, is that cults make ‘outsiders’ feel like they are not alone. in a personal sense for dani it WAS salvation for her but to us its awful and horrifying... whats not clicking with yall...?

@@misha3318 yeah but people act like cult members are her genuine friends and really care for her which is just not true. I think Aster's trick here that he makes them all smiley and seemingly harmless while Dani's friends deliberately made a bit repulsive and rude. So when the carnage begins some viewers still sympathise with cultist's lifestyle and GENUINELY think they helped Dani.

@@misha3318 look at the comments, some people praise Pelle as a better boyfriend that Jack (you know, except the fact that he intentionally brought them to slaughter). That means Ari's trick worked and some people end up sympathising cult members more than the tourists

White supremacist feel at lot of empathy by themselves indeed.

So cult manipulation.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT are you capable of doing anything but giving incorrect interpretations of this scene and the film in general?

@@pakora81 he's not incorrect. To manipulate her they have to show "love", it's how they brainwash her. There's even a video about it called "How Midsommer Brainwashes You"

@@pakora81 this is a freaking cult!

@@pakora81 Dude, why are you replying to every comment saying "It's a film, dumbass"? We know it's a damn film, have you ever heard of film analysis?

Whi the fuck cares what she feels?

@@AjaxNixon me apparently ;-;

what did she see?

@@sarina3087 her boyfriend is having sex with one of the villagers while a bunch of naked old ladies watch and moan along with her. It was super fucking awkward to watch and I actually considered leaving for a second but instead I just started laughing in the theater to avoid going crazy The movie is really good but whenever I rewatch it I skip that scene

@@KittyPieVibes ugh that scene is just…..yikes

And no. It’s not sisterly, or comforting or endearing. It is so deeply fucked up.

@@coreyblake8468 lmaooo right? I see these people in the comments saying it's 'empathetic' and I'm like what the hell, are we watching the same thing..

They are not.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT it's a fucking film, you tool

@@pakora81 so? It's a film analysis.

me, i love how they ar the one creating the situation in the first place, drugging andraping her boyfriend, waiting for her to see the scene, and then go to cry with her. What a beautiful therapy !

Yeah its so nice of them to comfort her after they drugged her boyfriend to make him cheat