True

Omg we r adults now 😢

yeah looking back she’s a total loser lmao

@Gabriel T I wouldn't call her selfish, but she was definitely oblivious. And everything else you said was 100% on point. The whole cast of characters in S1 - S4 were absolute train wrecks, and that's putting it lightly. But damn, was Gen 1 a complete mess of characters surrounded by a deeper mess of characters.

Wow

Just wanted to tell you your comment just made me click on another piece of media I read surrounding a character that also shares traits and dynamics as Effy, brilliant way of wording it! You're great.

@@NerdyDumbProductions hi, what character you talking about, who is a similar character to effy?

@@marcovittorino8996 sid

So me

Which deleted scene

@@hannah-wo7hg Season 4, Ep.7

If the scene was deleted then it isn’t canon to the story.

@@jamescarr1265🤓🤓🤓🤓

I had to look selective mutism and it explains a lot about her, and myself.. I read that the reason is most often comes from anxiety and stress ( which she experienced a lot at home).

she had more traits of emotionally unstable personality disorder than autism but I can understand why you'd confuse it to autism because they're very similar. also mutism isn't exclusive to autism either want to make this clear. EUPD also can have selective mutism because of trauma. I'm Autistic and ADHD and I don't see traits to ADHD or autism here, but emotionally unstable personality disorder which is formally known as Borderline personality disorder.

​@@MonstehDinosawr I'm all three. Adhd, autistic and bpd and see more bpd traits in her than the other two

@@SolC1989 I am seeking diagnosis for EUPD. my mum has it. I grew up around it. I'm 26 next month. I've been diagnosed with ADHD since I was 6, I wasn't able to get a dual diagnosis of autism because they didn't do that 20 years ago, especially not for women or girls. autism was recognised by a therapist when I was 18 and was able to receive a proper diagnosis for it at 21. this is EUPD. not autism.100%

​@@MonstehDinosawr you'll be surprised how many of us Audhd afabs were manic dream pixie girls that were diagnosed with EUPD and BPD.

​@@MonstehDinosawr i see your second comment and I'm the same age as you. But honestly I related the most to effy out of everyone even though most people don't realise every character on this show has issues and trauma. Effy is for sure autistic. She doesn't follow rules, she's blatantly honest, doesn't understand social matters. And uses trauma and emotions control her. She could be both but she I resemble even to her body language language.

she did go to a posh school as well

I think about it sometimes so horrible

My Skins trauma is still Chris. I was shocked for DAYS after that.

@@shanouboubou i can’t remember what happened to him specifically but I remember the deaths of the girl and the parents of the girl he was kinda dating bc he messed with the wrong people… are you referring to that? That traumatized the hell out of me **Nvm that was mother fuckin cook lol

@@sigridfelholt998 he got killed with a bat I believe it was, it was horrible because you just saw the way it happened behind a blurred door and he seemed pretty helpless. There was a bigger storyline but I can’t remember it was back in like 2012 or so

@@sigridfelholt998 good for you for listening to yourself, it really was a heavy show… I could only really handle that before I real life kicked in for me at like 23/24 lol no way I’m watching it now

A lot of people were too young to dig deeper in her character. They just saw the beautiful, cool girl everyone wanted. But Effy is such a fascinating character if you analyze her.

That’s the point, everyone loves to look at her but deep down she isn’t the best person.

Effy was such an alluring character, I always wanted a whole series of her. I'm so glad we got to see her branch out into the world with 'Skins: Fire'.

Well she was a bit of a mess and she was a bitch most of the time haha

Exactly and the more you look into her she’s so so alike tony

I will never forget the day I watched it for the first time 😭

i watched skins in 2020-2021 and planned to be exactly like her for entering high school 😭😭 yeaah it was something, all i am in high school now is just a loser that doesn’t talk not because i’m mysterious but because of my crippling anxiety and everything else wrong with me

@@lanakat thats me except i graduated in 2020 lmaoo. if i made it through, then youll do too! i even had a few mates i would talk to when we had class together but nothing too deep unfortunately. most of the time i was the weird (,not sexy) quiet girl

​@@lanakat didnt know there were so many people like me😭 i did this too and now i have no friends and no social life at all... heard girls from my school talking about me and they compared me to special kid, the only thing that was good about me was my apperance and thats all

LMAO

​@@szydlov "the special kid" yikes on bikes with that use of language.

That's crazy

I couldn't imagine anyone else as Effy. Kaya was perfect for the role.

Role* and yea, kaya said it was it was kinda traumatizing

​@@xsomili5501poor girl😢

That's honestly an effy thing to do I think

Hahahh I know exactly what you mean 😂

The first generation was definitely not shite, I thought it had great characters and writing. The second generation has aged horribly and is a fucking mess. The third one… that was already awful when it came out 😂

@@jamescarr1265 Yeah, probably a fair assessment. It's just not one of those shows that I can go back and watch with fondness and nostalgia, unlike many other great British shows from my youth. Maybe I've just become the cranky older man getting annoyed at these cocky mischievous kids.

@@kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512 that’s fair enough, I’m sorry if I seemed rude. You’re entitled to your opinion.

@@jamescarr1265 You didn't seem rude at all, don't worry. This is KZfaq, you're one of the polite ones 😄

I think it’s common for a lot of people

The UK is an amazing place in terms of accents. London itself has so many nuances, so it is natural this happens. I am Brazilian and have lived here for 20 years - it took me a while to notice these differences, but now it is so clear and absolutely fascinating.

It’s cause she’s beautiful, people love beautiful girls, it’s a plus if they’re sad with ruff edges as well, it makes them more engaging.

🙏🏼

Same 💕✨

She suffered from selective mutism as a child (she stopped talking when she was 6 and this is mentioned in a deleted scene) and in her early teens, probably due to her family situation. Indeed, his parents were rather bigoted, superficial and careless. No one paid attention to her or cared about her except Tony, so she attracted attention like that.

Raj Koothrappali from the Big Bang theory it’s also a nice example of selective mutism.

I hope you’re doing ok ❤❤

What do you mean?

@@bluesquirrel2472 it just makes sense and as an autistic person it's great to have selective mutism portrayal in such a popular show

​@@acidben33 she has borderline personality disorder, not autism.

@@jenjones90well not rlly…

Thank you so much!

I think because I am English, I never knew that it was unusual. I thought every country had heavy class based systemß

Do they not? The US does also and so do people toward any different nationality when they are in another country theyre perceived in a certain manner because stereotypes​@@sbo3

@@Jkens well, people always talk about how the US doesn't have a class based system, or vice versa they talk about how much class changes our lives in the UK. I mean it is literally built into our society from a historical point of view. You don't often find people who are descendant from literal aristocrats in the US eh?

@@sbo3 yeah true but class can be based on celebrity these days just be lucky enough to be born rich or famous or in royalty in our case

You rxtxrd

Of course it does

As a Dutch person, same.

As a Russian, same

People liked him. They just liked Cook more.

@@mydogeatspuke true lol

@@mydogeatspuke Cook is a complete douche. I hated him from first introduction.

His character was kind of boring

@@Hazeydaze92 his whole existence was to want to screw Effy, but Effy clearly wanted Cook way more. Poor bloke.

As a British person, I can differentiate between loads of American accents, don’t people have ears??

@@adreena456 I think at least for me it has more to do with the fact that she didn’t really talk that much in season one so I pretty much didn’t notice her accent switch once she started talking a lot.

Thiiiiiiisssss!!!! Although the first time smoking weed is hard cause it burns and it dries out your throat in an instant lmao

Wait how does she teach u lol

@@Kay-wl9vr when she shows one of the Fitch twins how to smoke, she says inhale and then breathe in again until you feel it in your chest. The second breath is a great tip.

the day i started to smoke was when i watched this scene, i was maybe 14, i didn't cough like the time i tried before because of effy's explanations, i still smoke to this day, sometimes i just think about her, how everything started

Honestly, same. I've never coughed because of that 😂

i think her mutism was from anger maybe?

@@cheycheyfriend247 that’s what I think it’s from too. The anger of being neglected and ignored and all in all her home life angered her a lot, and when I’m angry or sad, I’m quiet too, I don’t want to talk, so it could be that she was just filled with anger all the time

I definitely think that she is autistic, (coming from an autistic girl who really relates to all of the stuff she struggles with.)

@@Someone-mi4vt agree. just from this video- she changes her voice based on the situation which is masking. changing accents/having an unplaceable or different accent to those around you is common trait of autism. plus the mutism.

Kaya is half brazilian and I very much think she always speaks with a brazilian accent. Perhaps she chances accents because of that, we often do that in our second language

She didn't speak for years so she was getting used to her own voice, imitating accents she heard

14 in the first season

not really. the panda birthday, she didnt drug the brownies. the freddie/cook thing, it was freddie idolizing her, she didn't show interest outside of sex. the jj party thing, it wasn't her job to watch him. the camping thing, she was attacked first (or at least felt attacked in a very real way from the drugs clashing with her bpd). every character in the show knew she was pretty and fun, everyone who hates her only hates her because she knows it too. people always wanna blame her for things that aren't only her fault, and sometimes aren't her fault at all.

Imho the main reason she's an involving character is that she has a pretty face. People get easily "hooked on" pretty faces and they tend to see them as more likable or more interesting. If her character was played by the same actress (meaning the acting would be the same), but with the face of someone less attractive (for example of someone like Pandora) she would receive much less positive reaction from the audience. In fact it would be hard to do it, as one of the key features of Effy is that she is pretty and she knows it well as it enables her to manipulate everyone around her, because people find it hard to resist her. I mean just look at what kind of actresses are usually shown in youtube shorts or those self-made music videos (Idk how it's called, but it's done by pretty much anonymous creators who take a song, for example Lana del Rey's song and play it to a video that consits of video footages coming from different movies). It's never actresses like Judy Dench, Meryl Streep, Maggie Smith etc., it's always pretty, rather young (in their 20s-30s) and very feminine women with either very sensual or inncocent and girly faces such as Brigitte Bardot, Marliyn Monroe, Audrey Hepburn, Monica Belucci, young Brooke Shields, Winona Ryder etc. And as much it is not fair to favorise people for their looks, we can't help it, that's just how our brain works. I know that some people will say that beauty might be sometimes a curse, but pretty people are on average treated better, they can get away with worse things and we have more empathy for them- they even get shorter sentences (again, on average) in courts! We are able to forgive pretty Effy more than we would forgive someone who is less cute.

@@nepeta_cataria_007 this is true, we're largely a beauty-obsessed society. Attractiveness can give you a significant leg up in life. there are some rare downsides. but she was so sultry and enigmatic on the surface that it made her a magnet for fans to make all these gifs and edits and romanticize her as a broken beautiful girl

@@nepeta_cataria_007that’s an interesting take. I think the character is meant to be pretty as you said. But i think about pretty ppl having it easy that’s especially true of pretty and rich ppl. Certain women can be really mean and passive aggressive to pretty and poor women

@@savspicious She knowingly made two best friends contest over her just for the sake of it. You say that she showed no interest but that just isn't true as she knowingly led them both on and would flip flop between them.

BPD isn't caused by PTSD...PTSD results in low mood, Borderlines stalk, harass and are dangerous. It is a personality disorder just like NPD but Borderlines try to use the excuse that they were "traumatised". Psychiatrists hate Borderlines. If you have it I dare you to look through your notes.

Sugar rush was the dogs bollocks they only cancelled s3 due to not having slots to show case it what a waste

@@Jackeeypoos It was, I remember my friend's dad calling me all the names under the sun when he caught us watching the bath and toe scene. I never knew how narrow-minded he was until that day. I think he thought we were doing the same thing.

There's an australian show called Slide thats got a similar thing to skins going on and I think that was super underrated 👌

Sugar rush promoted p/dophilia and d@te r@pe I am not a fan!

OMG! Sugar Rush!! I was crushing on Andrew Garfield before even knowing what was his name back then 😳❤️

nah she defo has a more working class accent till season 2

​@@katiemp670 she says about 3 words until season 2. I'm sure if you clipped her saying "wanker" in the car and played it beside her saying it any time after that when she supposedly sounds different, it would sound the same.

HAHAHAHAHA she's 100% council estate in the 2:20 clip and she doesn't sound anything like that in any clip before or after. The Unseen Skins is the development of making her ever-so-slightly more well spoken. And then from then on it's all middle class closer to SP. It's very easy to hear a difference

@@slushpuppie19 how can someone be "100% council estate" (not a dialect or accent btw, there are council estates all over the country, some in very well to do areas) when saying literally one word? I'm Northern but I say "wanker" like a Cockney because I think it's hilarious. I also say some swear words with a very posh accent because they sound more effective when properly enunciated. I'm not Cockney or posh, even if they weren't polar opposites to begin with, and yet.

@@mydogeatspuke Well she says more than one word. She also says it in a completely different accent to the rest of the video. Don't really know why people can't hear that. Must be a lot more obvious if you're southern I guess.

euphoria

trauma from watching her brother get hit by a bus

​@@ci8552 she had started talking again before that though, you can clearly hear her making words with her mouth hole before that happened right here in this video.

she didn't decide to be mute. She wants to talk, but simply can NOT. She suffer for less known anxiety disorder called "Selective Mutism".

​​@jacktechindonesia no.... effy explains it in one of the "ad" videos why she stopped speaking. It was to be like an actress or character (can't remember which) that she admired (Edited my spelling errors)

ah okay. Sorry I was too quick to jump into conclusion :(@@jilysmiles3320

When???

@@fiammamarasco8059 1:04 baby Tom Payne

@@littlestleggies omg he was so young

damn they really had 14/15 year old kaya kissing 25 year old tom 😭 crazy

@@VannahCakesYo 😂 same with Waterloo road, his baby face is a curse fr

She was really quiet still

It’s Skins!

Aww 💜

Seven :---)

Yh just 7 seasons Gen 1 : Season 1 & 2 Gen 2 : Season 3 & 4 Gen 3 : Season 5 & 6 Skins Fire, Pure, Rise : Season 7

Elaborate

Katie was homophobic so wtf?

Maybe they confused Katie with emily

ADHD isn't a mental disorder, it's a form of neurodivergence. Please don't put ADHD in the same category as BPD. Borderlines need to be locked up.

​@@jenjones90BRO what is it with you and folks with BPD

⁠@@jenjones90 People with mental disorders are also neurodivergent. Neurodivergence incudes anyone’s whose brain does not function “typically”. So BPD, Bipolar disorder, anxiety, depression, OCD, etc. all make a person neurodivergent. So actually, using YOUR logic, in that respect they are in the same category as ADHD. The difference, aside from the actual symptoms, is that BPD develops due to trauma, whereas ADHD is typically something people are born with.

As a fact you are wrong