Mike Bickle Excommunicated Prophet Who Told Him to Move to Kansas City

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Ай бұрын

But he's sure it was a legit prophecy. Haha.
Part 1: Bickle telling prophetic history in 1986, talking about Augustine
Part 2: Ernie Gruen telling story about Augustine in 1990
Bickle couldn't admit publicly that Augustine was living a Paul Cain lifestyle, otherwise people would doubt God had called him to move to KC. Because he had already committed to that story. But he couldn't let him continue to minister at his church once the word got out what he was doing. So he had to do this soft excommunication.
Once the prophetic narrative that God had called him to move to KC collapses, other wheels start falling off the entire Bickle IHOP-KC script.

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@user-bk3wo9ib4h 24 күн бұрын

I think what is really needed is a 4rth party investigation, 3rd party leave too much room for unfairness, lets go 4rth party

@lsimms2534 Ай бұрын

folks can web search - Augustine Acola Mike Bickle = and find more info about what happened online

@alanmittan4651 Ай бұрын

Many "influential" people that spoke into this ministry and helped it along came and went like water. They all became expendable commodities. Sidebar: Ernie Gruen did not finish well either, but he was at least on track with MB as far as him being dangerous to the body of Christ.

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

well shit, lets change our standard for leaders for ernie

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

does anyone realize Ernie Gruen left his wife to have an affair with his secretary, erine was an adulterer, does he get a pass because he spoke against bickle?

@StreetsOfVancouverChannel Ай бұрын

What is your credible source for that assertion?

@robcallicotte5786 Ай бұрын

Not the complete story. Ernie didn't run away from his wife and though he openly admitted failure he stayed with his wife.

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

@@robcallicotte5786 he still did the nasty with his church secretary

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

@@StreetsOfVancouverChannel ernie gruen himself,,,,,, would that be considered the horses mouth?

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

@@robcallicotte5786 leaders held to a higher standard...... but they are using ernies words,,,,, find a leader without scandal and sexual sin ,,,,, makes this whole d//n thing disgusting

@gigifreefreed501 Ай бұрын

I remember this and never knew what the real reason was. Ughhhhh.

@gigifreefreed501 Ай бұрын

Who is the second voice?

@davidgriffin-100miraclesmi5 Ай бұрын

Ernie Gruen

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

a pastor who had an affair with his secretary named ernie gruen

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

ernies secretary was a victim

@robcallicotte5786 Ай бұрын

It was made right openly.

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

@@robcallicotte5786 so that makes it ok ?

@laurie9993 Ай бұрын

Both got caught then

@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын

@@laurie9993 by the standard communicated on this channel,,,, leaders are held to a higher standard,,,,, but i guess not ernie gruen,,,,

@robcallicotte5786 Ай бұрын

@@user-bk3wo9ib4h, making his sin as confessed publicly and that he worked this out with everyone involved (including the woman and husband he hurt) and he publicly admitted all wrong, yes. God forgives. Did Gruen continue to live in adultery after this incident?