You can see Jordan Rudess in the back helping James to count
@ChristianIce5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because the fucked up drums didn't help counting much :)
@Telefonsladd5 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianIceJames messed up more than the drummer who actually kept the pace
@ChristianIce5 жыл бұрын
@@Telefonsladd Nope. Go listen back at the original song, at 3:16 you'll find what the part is actually supposed to be.
@Telefonsladd5 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianIce What do you mean? The drummer played the part wrong but didn't lose the counting, which James did?
@ChristianIce5 жыл бұрын
@@Telefonsladd When the drummer plays another song it can be distracting.
@AldiJaggerjack313 жыл бұрын
I like when James, Rudess, Petrucci, and Mangini group up together to fix the tempo while myung just being (-_-)
@sprBEAST2113 жыл бұрын
👽
@ryland.w50242 жыл бұрын
Bruhh
@soulriv24872 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@riyankurniawan58192 жыл бұрын
😂 wtf
@TerraVN10 ай бұрын
Nice one lol
@piacere_lore3 жыл бұрын
1:27 I love how JP casually plays the keyboard and then just walks away laughing :D
@grimblegromblethegnome2 жыл бұрын
haha gotta love Petrucci
@Hemix68 Жыл бұрын
Mentre gli altri, si fanno il sangue amaro, lui si diverte. Persona positiva, semplice e alla mano. Arriverà a suonare fino a 100 anni ed oltre...😍
@vicentegutierrez19293 жыл бұрын
Well, Mike corrected the error instantly, but James was already in another dimension. (I love how Jordan is always the metronome when this sort of things happen)
@wetji12332 жыл бұрын
its harder for James to fix this mistake without making another mistake by stopping or not singing couple of words
@MarcoPolux2 жыл бұрын
@@wetji1233 What?? he could say "whats up New York!" or something./.. instead he is just focusing on singing HORRIBLE, like a crying orangutan. Rudess as always, a great music sense and metronome... and Petrucci as if nothing happened 👍 So... the only crybaby was the worst musician in the band. (I like how he sings on records, not live)
@KlittoD2 жыл бұрын
Jordan is truly the real mvp
@Moskal912 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoPolux Labrie is old. chill
@MarcoPolux2 жыл бұрын
@@Moskal91 right about that 👍 chilled right now with my cold Pilsner 🍻
@kumzuklongs46293 жыл бұрын
James sounds like an angry wife throwing tantrums.
@sealinski3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@davelospinoso90223 жыл бұрын
How's your singing career going?
@op3l3 жыл бұрын
He’s the worst part of dream theater…
@davelospinoso90223 жыл бұрын
@@op3l Mangini is the worst part of Dream Theater. It's like replacing Petrucci with the DragonForce guy. All chops and no soul
@op3l3 жыл бұрын
@@davelospinoso9022 while I don't like his sound... I feel like he still keeps the beat and is a great drummer in his own right. Just he's too shouty for my taste. He has the demeanor of a low key guy but everything he does and say feels like he's going "WITNESS ME!" But Labrie... He constantly misses high notes and just trots around like he's lost most of the time.
@aryahmdm5 жыл бұрын
1:26 don't do it john, you're gonna lose all your hair
@Nosrednawdrummer5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHHAHA GOOD ONE
@TheJakePoole5 жыл бұрын
Hah! Nice catch!
@adarshbhandary3415 жыл бұрын
Hhahahahahahahahahaha XD
@ruanglama59045 жыл бұрын
Wkwkwkwkwkwkk
@maximumbrap82375 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA I am SO glad this joke is still alive!
@alexito.0w04 жыл бұрын
0:15 Rudess to the rescue 😂
@phabi0 Жыл бұрын
Mangini: plays The Dance of Eternity flawlessly. Fails Pull me Under
@gringochucha3 жыл бұрын
All bands make mistakes. The main thing is to keep playing no matter what and get it together as quickly as possible. They're all absolute pros and that's what they did.
@stevedamien6382 жыл бұрын
Gring-- Professional musicianship is the power to turn a mistake into an improvisation to the ears of the crowd without also showing any body language if that mistake. Thats a master thing to achieve
@pedrosilvaproductions2 жыл бұрын
A professional and an amateur all make mistakes. The amateur would sweat and panic, the professional goes along and keeps on playing. Professionals also make mistakes professionally i.e correct the mistake, improvise seamlessly, reaching a point in which they say to the audience "sorry for the mistake" and the audience is like "what mistake". That's a mark of a true professional right there
@TheAxe4Ever2 жыл бұрын
I’m ,laughing my ass off at so many of these comments. Yes, Mangini screwed up. But then some say, “but it was on the pulse” or “okay, he played the wrong part, but it wasn’t a screw up” or “it was JLB’s fault because he had to look to see Jordan showing him the beat”. I’m so glad none of you kids are in my band. 😂 You won’t find a bigger defender of Mangini in the face of Portnoy fanboys than me. But the bottom line is Mangini played the part totally wrong. You can clearly hear him hitting the cymbals trying to find the count and he found it rather quickly. And it threw James off, of which with help from Jordan, got back on it. That’s what bandmates do. Have each other’s back. It was a fuck up. Big deal.
@deantalbotdrums2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAxe4Ever Well said 👍
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
The cereal box man has no groove, that’s why.
@merqury53 жыл бұрын
Rudess is an underappreciated musician because hes so far beyond us we don comprehend his level. All of this band is sick. And there is no one else I know that can beef with James, he does something incredibly difficult, and its not going to work all the time. Haters can go listen to acdc.
@Glitch-nr9ct2 жыл бұрын
It's literally like watching 5 Olympic Gold Metalists perform right? LaBrie is still WAY better than Geddy Lee was the last decade of his career and I say that as a Rush fan.
@merqury52 жыл бұрын
@@muhtasimshahriyar8351 lets agree to strongly disagree
@merqury52 жыл бұрын
@@muhtasimshahriyar8351 Its just different dude. Better or worse doesn't fit the subject.
@merqury52 жыл бұрын
@@muhtasimshahriyar8351 But OSI 1 was incredible. Love Kevins work there.
@gabrielbarblay81202 жыл бұрын
Underappreciated? Hes like the keyboard jesus
@carlmanu5 жыл бұрын
Negative, he was reprogrammed to occasionally make these errors so he seems more human. But you know what else is not human, LaBrie’s voice.
@hannes17345 жыл бұрын
Right. It's like that from a screaming whale
@bassimprovjams37725 жыл бұрын
That ending part.ouch..
@DonHaka5 жыл бұрын
Isnt labrie 55? not many rock vocalists know how to take care of their voices. And Labrie is one of em. That his voice isnt what it once was has been a well known fact since the late 90s, its time to stop bickering about it.
@carlmanu5 жыл бұрын
DIDUKNOWDAT .URANIDIOT? Time for a new vocalist. He became a studio vocalist but live has not been to the same standards since the late 90s. It hurts to listen to this live. All I hear is “waawaaiiiaaawa eeeeeaaaww” like many have pointed out.
@DonHaka5 жыл бұрын
@@carlmanu changing vocalist would be like changing guitarist, James Labrie will probably never be replaced if he doesn't get any injuries that prohibit him from performing. Dream theater is a family, they have all known each other for almost 30 years now, they are definitely not gonna kick him. I don't personally have a problem with it, I can look past it, knowing that he delivers in studio and did deliver on every single album, I don't wanna listen to a DT album without Labrie on vocals. That would be like listening to another band, his phrasing and all that is a big part of the bands music.
@dudee499 Жыл бұрын
Anyone would mess up hearing a goose like that sing
@ThomasJakobMusic5 жыл бұрын
James LaBrie. I still wonder why after all these years the band don't transpose ALL of their old songs down at least by 2 notes just like rock bands are usually forced to do.
@nbs14215 жыл бұрын
I think they did that with some Images and Words tour, still didnt sound well lol
@BusyRaf5 жыл бұрын
The fact that this misfire happened on Pull Me Under is pretty embarrassing TBH.
@krispy37905 жыл бұрын
i saw them a week ago in charlotte and he did much better than this, but they did do that for the images and words tour in 2017
@gtrpimp765 жыл бұрын
Mangini messed up the same EXACT part of PMU during the Dramatic Tour of Events at LA Nokia Theater in 2011. It was pretty bad. JP looked annoyed.
@gtrpimp765 жыл бұрын
And for I&W and Beyond they did tune down 1/2 step. Even ACOS was tuned down 1/2 step as well and James did hit the notes a little better but his diction and enunciation of certain words still sucked.
@TheDoneroll5 жыл бұрын
after playing a thousand times for this song ... it encourages me when i sometimes forgot some guitar parts also ..:)
@garyconner61515 жыл бұрын
Home run.yeah I would throw a curve ball here and there to.keep em on there toes
@rodrigocarriqueo70654 жыл бұрын
"Not quite my tempo" 😂😂😂
@axljohnamora73244 жыл бұрын
Whiplash line, that bald guy looked like Jordan Rudess.
@CheloWiiU5 жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh the fact that JP, JR and JM keep playing up to tempo without losing their beat! THEY ARE the machines. LaBrie and Mangini are totally human LOL
@GuitarHackery5 жыл бұрын
This. While everybody was accusing Mangini of being the robot, it's the other dudes and he's the only fellow human. HOWEVER, my music school just taught us that the drummer is always right, so from that angle, all the other dudes were wrong :D
@rub8005 жыл бұрын
Most probably they are playing to a click, so they don't have much choice but to keep playing or the programmed sequences will be out of time
@JuliusTrippner5 жыл бұрын
Petrucci doesn't hear LaBrie on his in ears. So he maybe didn't even notice the mistake.
@VultureCL5 жыл бұрын
Mish... donde lo pillo, sir. Veo que el WiiU prevalece 😅.
@CheloWiiU5 жыл бұрын
@@VultureCL Compadrito Vulture!! Oye me puedes enviar un chat o un correo o algo? Mi correo es igual. chelowiiu@gmail.com
@johnkenerson71 Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer when musicians of this caliber make "mistakes"... it shows they are still playing with soul and humanity and could lead to some amazing improvisation within an extremely structured song. The only ones that could even notice that there is a "mistake" are either extreme DT fans or accomplished musicians. The average listener wouldn't even notice.
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
Except cereal box man has no soul or humanity, so it just makes it even worse.
@miguelmireles46172 жыл бұрын
Esos Gritos desconcentran a cualquiera jaja
@fachannelpokciktapirfk83 жыл бұрын
If we listen to the snare with methronone tempo actually Mangini still play on to the tempo with the band but with a bit different style on drum fill before the song enter to the next chapter make Labrie confused.
@danigomez35136 ай бұрын
Si señor Totalmente de Acuerdo👽👏🏻👏🏻👊
@xenderknight2 жыл бұрын
Rudess and Mangini are two exceptionally talented musicians who, despite their clear differences in musicianship, have the utmost respect for one another
@Matthew-le1eq5 жыл бұрын
What I like most about Dream Theater?Dedication and Integrity to the music.Mistakes are made,people,respect the immense talent and dedication these men have to a grueling schedule.Is there anyone perfect out there that wants to keep casting stones?
@aldhal2025 жыл бұрын
Only robot i see is Petrucci walkin towards Jordan 😁
@ciranimal5 жыл бұрын
The builders of the Mangini 8000 included realistic “off beat artifacts” in order to make him seem more realistic. 😂😂
@JoKKats5 жыл бұрын
Come on guys..he couldn't reach the cymbals..
@men2men4035 жыл бұрын
haha
@TheMrMegabyte5 жыл бұрын
Why are they so high?
@brenhamkoontz1585 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrMegabyte something to the effect that they hurt lebries ears so Mike raised them above ear height. I cant remember the exact story but it's something like that.
@TheMrMegabyte5 жыл бұрын
Brenham Koontz Thank you, but sometimes they seem difficult to reach
@themetalicious71954 жыл бұрын
For sound separation , interaction , seeing the crowd and bandmates while performing do you want more reasons
@njtude Жыл бұрын
Labrie sounds like an old lady 👵 screaming
@Equimanthorn805 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEIIIIIEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAEEE AIIIIIIII ONLY SATISFACTIIIEEEAAAAA AAAEEEIIIEEEIIIII AGAIN *Turns to Mangini* Dude, you're cramping my style!
@MrJBleedge5 жыл бұрын
TERN ME ENDER
@vicentegutierrez19293 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, that is james in nutshell lol
@yourdrummer20343 жыл бұрын
He's not a robot. He has a brain for each limb. Robots wish they were him tho! 😁
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
I wish he could use all that coordination to play with some sort of groove. Unfortunately, all we get is cereal box man with misplaced polyrhythms.
@jeankaleb16744 жыл бұрын
Damn! that crying dolphin is a singer of the almost-perfect band
@TheJakePoole5 жыл бұрын
From what I hear, it sounds like Mike started the double time about 5 beats too late, which may have thrown James off. I hear a mistake on both of their parts. James if probably use to the snare on the downbeat there, and when he didn't hear it, it probably threw him off. But like true professionals, they fixed it and the show went on. Don't hate on the guys. They're human. There is also the possibility that there could have been a monitor issue, maybe.
@youadrenalinetube5 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right but to a band like DT this must’ve been so frustrating even a wee bit off must’ve felt like death. Jordan would’ve questioned his whole existence after the show (JK)
@TheJakePoole5 жыл бұрын
@@youadrenalinetube Now that I watch it again, John seemed to have noticed really quickly something was up. Like immediately. I wonder if there was suddenly some sort of monitor issue where they couldn't hear each other very well?
@adarshbhandary3415 жыл бұрын
@@TheJakePoole I dont know but it felt like Rudess was giving some sort of metronome for all members to get back into tempo. Man are they GOATs!
@wolfnipplechips38575 жыл бұрын
Let Mike off with that Lars Ulrich does it every night
@garyconner61515 жыл бұрын
There mistake is better than anything we could come up with in our lifetime..and I still loved it.kerp rocking Mike
@nicolascardozo61113 жыл бұрын
Mientras tanto john myung soporta toda la banda sin perderse. El robot es asiático aquí. Es su estilo y a mi me copa su estilo.
@arnaldocabralirrazabal55492 жыл бұрын
Myung es estadounidense, su ascendencia no tiene nada que ver con su disciplina
@kevinprasetya97672 жыл бұрын
@@arnaldocabralirrazabal5549 is that jokes!
@eduardomartin8510 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinprasetya9767 Nah es de esos que se hacen pendejos como si no entendieran para sentirse ofendidos y superiores simultaneamente.
@akiraivan2 жыл бұрын
Me hace sentir bien, que vea que mis ídolos son humanos!!!!...., Mike Mangini es una bestia pero también es humano, no tiene nada que probar........
@MM-MISTER-M5 жыл бұрын
Mangini just tried to fix Labrie's tempo mistake. The error started with the singer.
@eliasperez28242 жыл бұрын
Hasta Mike Mangini se equivoca y este sr es uno de los mejores bateristas del planeta y además tiene el récord Guinness de ser el más Rápido del mundo.
@Lettymancusso9911 ай бұрын
Nadie es perfecto!
@StavrosTzem5 жыл бұрын
Myung didn't even blink
@Quester915 жыл бұрын
The fact mangini went out of his way to try covering up james mistake makes me respect him even more. Mike transcends time itself.
@mleite15 жыл бұрын
wut
@jarska50985 жыл бұрын
Well, what ive been taught is that the rest of the band should always follow the solist, if the solist messes up the band should follow him even though they have been playing right.
@qwantinmoe62155 жыл бұрын
It was James who started a beat late, so Mangini switched it up right?
@qwantinmoe62155 жыл бұрын
No wait they were both on time but Mike should've played the snare on the down beat
@garyconner61515 жыл бұрын
Mike could play the song backwards if he wanted to.and STILL saved there ass.
@peterdanner23365 жыл бұрын
Ron Jeremy has really let himself go, still, decent voice for his age.
@danlc952 жыл бұрын
The Hedgehog!
@sween1911a12 жыл бұрын
Familiarity breeds contempt. The 9,000th playing of Pull Me Under is bound to induce an error one of these days. They took care of it. I would have enjoyed it anyway and might not even have noticed despite playing that song on the steering wheel for 20 years. Great tune!
@csaenz142 жыл бұрын
que grande Mangini y todo Dream Theater
@pedo805 жыл бұрын
@Mattew Chase Holy shit, you are right, it clearly feels like Mangini going out of time but listening better to it, you realize James is coming in few moments later which screwed up everything and then is what probably made also Mangini mistake and then in need to change/correct the all tempo of his beat. Thank you for making me notice it.
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
james isnt coming in late at all.
@DanyNMacF2 жыл бұрын
when I step on my cats paw it sounds similar to some of the singing I'm hearing here
@SirGingerOfKnight5 жыл бұрын
Hearing James just makes me weirdly glad I haven't seen them live since '07
@dorfnob5 жыл бұрын
It's very disheartening for those of us who didnt get the chance to see them in Jame's prime or at least semi prime. Still may try and see them just for the instrumentals
@SirGingerOfKnight5 жыл бұрын
@@dorfnob it's a shame because it was a great gig! JP goes nuts with power (search for those exact words) during take the time. And I got to see my drumming hero too. I hope lte3 happens when the time comes!
@edp19635 жыл бұрын
actually i've seen them live last summer, and James didn't sound as bad as he sounds in this video. he probably just needs a lot of practice to sing all this songs
@HammerBlow5005 жыл бұрын
dorfnob I hear you. I only discovered DT a couple of years ago so I’ll never get to see them at their peak :/
@dorfnob5 жыл бұрын
@@HammerBlow500 yeah, at least they have put out a bunch of live DVD's over the years lol it's a similar thing with Tool, though I'm still hyped for that new album that may or may not come out this year lol
@GoaWay4Sanity Жыл бұрын
0:16 *Jordan Rudess the human metronome lol*
@coreymaster13695 жыл бұрын
I was at this show (Red Bank NJ) and it was Mangini’s fault, if you listen to the verse before it goes into the “This world is spinning around me” part, he adds in an extra eighth note, I have the entire song recorded from all the way up at the top of the theater and it’s plain to hear. This isn’t a knock on Mangini, in fact I love his playing, especially on the new album.
@grimblegromblethegnome2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I'm hearing too. Other than sounding bad, JL seemed to come in correctly at "this world..." but Mangini didn't.
@_el.guapo_ Жыл бұрын
That must be the only mistake Mike Mangini made in 50 years of drumming and I barely noticed it. I was too much taken away by the screeching singing 😄
@minecraftworker85 жыл бұрын
it's obviously laBrie fault mangini was just distracted by his mistake
@jonathanlalrintluanga47375 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about mangini...listen to james
@JVR108935 жыл бұрын
My biggest takeaway is how bad James sounds on this. Which is crazy because when I saw them a few weeks ago he sounded absolutely incredible.
@michaeldover Жыл бұрын
I think it's more of a result of it being a raw recording. That being said, it's a shame that as people get older, their singing voices definitely change and can't hit the notes they used to. James is an example. Geoff Tate is another. It's no knock on them. it's just the way it is.
@XiyuYang5 жыл бұрын
Might have been a monitoring issue, Mangini didn't play the double time as Portnoy did in the studio, which might have thrown James Labrie off a little bit. Fortunately they found out something was off and recovered really really well. Musicians, even ones of their caliber, make mistakes too.
@joshuaanaya70292 жыл бұрын
James sounds like the martians from the movie Mars Attacks
@olimpicus3 жыл бұрын
damn, just when Labrie is giving the performance of his life
@manifestgtr5 жыл бұрын
The scary thing about this is that they’re probably playing to a click for the backing vox so it’s not like the band can just hop back in at any time. That’s why Jordan was giving him the downbeat And let’s be honest here for a moment...seriously...this wasn’t a fuck up. Mangini went into a few bars of 17/64 followed by a bar or 3/8 and landed right back on 1.
@qrotagoras Жыл бұрын
Labrie's voice is now like one of a very old woman:( so sad listening to him:(
@heavymetalmusictheory5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say it was Mangini who stumbled, then LaBrie was thrown off. But who cares, they are all awesome!
@garyconner61515 жыл бұрын
I've heard mistakes that sounds better than the song.and the mistake coulo be done again.because they didn't know how they did it.no shit.
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
labrei wasnt even thrown off, his singing is in time, and he turns around to look at mangini, who comes back in time as james turns around.
@paulonunezarqueros86794 жыл бұрын
Una! Una de miles....no es nada, es un maestro!
@nicholastotoro77215 жыл бұрын
The irony is James looking back at Mike for making a mistake after he sounded like a drunk, yodeling grandfather belting out that verse.
@ultragalacticlightkick8624 жыл бұрын
Looool! Nailed it!
@TheDarkEternalKnight07 Жыл бұрын
Actually, he was trying to get on the tempo. Rudess helped him counting with his hand.
@MMAtiasAsconeguyRaco Жыл бұрын
That happens when you play like one, and you don't feel a damn thing. He's struggling to rock it. From what I can gather, he's just an employee.
@drumhack77222 жыл бұрын
James sounds like a guy at a pub that’s just been told no more drinks
@ciscoak90745 жыл бұрын
Everyone's so good and then theres labrie.
@gchavezmusic Жыл бұрын
Myung doesn't care at all, he must thinks: "Ha! N00bs, can't keep real tempo" 😂
@HunterRouth5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a bad idea to stop playing this song for like 8 years. Overplayed. So many other great songs they have. The whole new album was perfect and fits his voice. So....
@OfficialDreamTheater5 жыл бұрын
Mangini's fill to the bridge threw LaBrie, and LaBrie ended up dragging so bad.
@prameditar50933 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the conductor of DT in relation to movements and entry failures to correct them. Several times, on different tours we see him helping Petrucci and Mangini with the progress of the songs. On KZfaq we find videos of Jordan helping Petrucci during Mike's drum solos in Finnaly Free for example, and when Mike leaves the tempo slightly Jordan is there on the side pointing the correct rhythm. Meanwhile, Myung remains in his own universe .... kkkk
@fanybasamasyardi40122 жыл бұрын
Myung is independent
@sikkis4007 Жыл бұрын
If you think Mangini messed up with timing, try counting on 4 while listening to this and you will notice that he is playing perfectly on time.
@tempestdrums Жыл бұрын
yep, 0 mistakes
@Nmdixon-cu7vm11 ай бұрын
This entire song is in 4/4 time. Mangini messed up and you can’t count. The end.
@tempestdrums11 ай бұрын
@@Nmdixon-cu7vm what timestamp where he messes up?
@edcollante7 ай бұрын
It's actually labrie fucking everything up.
@leovigiloesparza74122 жыл бұрын
Mike Mangini its the best drummer in the world.
@suministrodisam99092 жыл бұрын
Pienso lo mismo, es un dios.
@abangramadan89785 жыл бұрын
we all love you lebrie, but you done
@juancarlos-mj6kq5 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! Every time i say LaBrie is finished i get hammered. His voice is SO damn off key that it literally hurts to watch him try to sing.
@janandrechristiansen7660 Жыл бұрын
Vince neil and James should do a duet.
@aldinoprakasa14545 жыл бұрын
Probably it was in an ending part of show.. Mangini was out of focus and exhausted, it happens to every drummer,,. Their effort consumes a lot of energy, more than other members,, DT is still a best band ever
@OfficialDreamTheater5 жыл бұрын
It was. Pull Me Under is their encore song for this tour.
@bryanswanson3815 жыл бұрын
Labrie messed up.. mangini tried to fix it....rudess helped get labrie back on track
@garyconner61515 жыл бұрын
Neill Peart through the towel in .so to hell with perfect.
@yuda1604933 жыл бұрын
Portnoy ever did the same issue when they played live In The Presence of Enemy
@mischaelman65962 жыл бұрын
Jordan is just looking at James while helping him to count, not at MM, that means Jordan knows really who's fault. 😅
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
no, he isn't he is facing front of stage but his arm is out so mike can see it.
@ChrisBrown-cg2by5 жыл бұрын
Count it folks.. singer came in late.4\4 time. Play it with snare on the 2 and 4 beat and after the fill, his snare hits on the two....
@burymeband54103 жыл бұрын
We were at this same show! I got a video of the whole song, but the quality is pretty poor. The way they corrected the error speaks volumes about how synergized they are. Many lesser bands would have fallen apart in a similar situation.
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
If they were actually amazingly synergized, the mistake wouldn’t have been made in the first place. Portnoy never would have gotten off beat in any song and never has.
@burymeband5410 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhartel5362 Even without Portnoy, I find it difficult to deny the synergy the band still has, even if they are rustier than they used to be. And it's not like this is the first time this sort of thing has happened anyway. The following clip has Portnoy on drums: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsVyl9xk26_Vhn0.html Also, it is worth mentioning that it was James who came in early in this clip with Mangini. The only reason it sounds like Mangini was getting "off beat" is because he was trying to gradually slow down to compensate for the fact that James came in late. Essentially, he was pausing at the end of each measure slightly until he was in time with Labrie's vocal parts.
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
@@burymeband5410 with the luxury of state of the art in ear monitors and a click track, and they still screwed up. That audio you linked to is what, mid 90’s? Yea okay dude, totally the same.
@burymeband5410 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhartel5362 If you find that comparison to be unfair, feel free to address the rest of my argument. I am trying to give a rational explanation of what happened and how the band fixed it, but you just seem dead set on blaming Mangini for the whole situation, which is inherently unfair if you actually hear what is happening here.
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
@@burymeband5410 I mean, he is the drummer. He has the most responsibility for time. If you’ve ever played in a band then you know this. Not to say the mistake is only his, but Mangini should be the one getting everyone back on time and not Rudess.
@jonatanney35285 жыл бұрын
Actually it's Labrie who enters the bridge a little to late, then Mangini tries to guide him right by placing crashes on the first beat of each bar.
@TheManglerPolishDeathMetal5 жыл бұрын
much too late
@ChristianIce5 жыл бұрын
No. The drum part was supposed to start with the snare, Mangini fucked up. The voice was a little late but at least it was the right part :)
@mikejune41035 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianIce can I ask which bar are they playing and what time signature? I think your a smart person who understand music. Please prove your point.
@ChristianIce5 жыл бұрын
@@mikejune4103 it's a simple 4/4 The signature doesn't change nor the bpm, the bridge part has the snare on every beat while the previous has it only on beat 2 and 4. EDIT: here is how it was supposed to be, at 3:16 watch?v=SGRgAULYgWE
@MichaelBerra2 жыл бұрын
I mean they self corrected in 2 1/2 measures......that's pretty impressive!
@BIGDADDYBALLZ4202 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so good petty people point out mistakes you make
@VinnyG_Music5 жыл бұрын
It was James who went out of time
@numeditationmusic5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was, he entered the bridge a little bit too late
@marcotoscano46922 жыл бұрын
The real drama is a "singer" like James la Brie....
@WilfordMays5 жыл бұрын
Damn, LaBrie is not sounding good.
@KyleDavisMusic5 жыл бұрын
It's the last encore of the whole evening this tour. Give the guy a break. I'd love to see any of you attempt what he's doing.
@KevinGsWK5 жыл бұрын
@@KyleDavisMusic that type of argument does not work. Either put up a valid point or stfu
@riowijaya15 жыл бұрын
Never
@OfficialDreamTheater5 жыл бұрын
@@KevinGsWK oh really? Factor in his age, how much he's had to strain his vocals throughout his whole career hitting high notes, playing through whole sets on tour while having two bad vocal cord injuries during his career with DT. They (Petrucci and Rudess, writers of most of their music now,) also continue to push the envelope on newer records, not adapting to his changing vocal capabilities, instead expecting him to sing like he did almost 40 years ago. He's putting in effort still, and I can't imagine HOW DIFFICULT it must be with all he's got going on, including "fans" like you who just shit on his singing all the time. If you don't like how he sings live, don't see them live, just listen to their albums... They played here in Atlanta and I was fortunate enough to see them. He sounded very good in person. I don't know if it may be the shitty microphones from these phones that aren't doing him justice, but give him credit man
@KevinGsWK5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile better vocalists keep their voice like Bruce Dickinson
@Juan6Meses5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matters when you have a screaming whale in front
@vidsforsquids5 жыл бұрын
Juan Ayestas HORRIBLE voice
@iganpparamarta88135 жыл бұрын
00:15 Is it Jordan telling him to slow down and return to tempo?
@tylerbailey93294 жыл бұрын
I can understand not liking his voice, but you really gotta mock his size? That's cold dude.
@jorgealberto16663 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde la ceiba primo !
@laksonoroy51095 жыл бұрын
I think the first mistake is mangini... makes james confuse...
@AchmadRizalSyaifuddinM5 жыл бұрын
when he came to Indonesia a few years ago, play mirror or lie song. He made a mistake. And rudess's face look so dissapointed.
@gaspardtombo17504 жыл бұрын
Mangini came out from metronome for a little
@Gabetorres19762 жыл бұрын
Excellent recover Mike!
@genesigler833 Жыл бұрын
I would approve James using auto tune!
@vitormartins57424 жыл бұрын
Just adding to the general knowledge here, the recording goes into double time and Mangini didn't do that, which probably threw LaBrie off -- Mangini kept tempo, though, so it shouldn't necessarily cause any issues. It is, on the other hand, ironic that in the auditions the band threw all kinds of weird tempos at Mangini and expected him to react instantly while their singer apparently can't do that. Now, in LaBrie's defense, I don't think he sounds as awful as everyone is saying, I think he sounds ok. Could benefit from singing a semitone or two lower though, transposing songs is no sin.
@Rossco949511 ай бұрын
I thought it was Vince Neil for a minute 😂
@jswervy162 жыл бұрын
Wow. James. Tough. His voice is shot
@loicreste71833 жыл бұрын
the funny part starts at 0:08. MM should play snare on downbeat, and there JL should start singing "this world is spinning around me". MM was playing right on tempo but different from original, and JL went off cause he was not counting and waiting for the snare on downbeat to start. JP remains always on time with the guitar. Amazing how JR goes director mode and saves JL. James man you should count by yourself when singing with DT ....
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
the singing is exactly on the tempo it should be. its the drums that go long and this end up out by a beat. even though i play the drums i know the lyrics structure for this one and i can start tapping out the metronome at the start fo the video and sing exactly how it should be and james is spot on.
@jaspergillgannon49913 жыл бұрын
JM, JP and JR are actually the most robot if anything. I can't think of the last time when any of them screwed up live
@benjaminkrake42112 жыл бұрын
Literally the first time I’ve heard a significant error from them after 3 live concerts and they fixed it within 10 seconds
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
10 seconds is 8 seconds too long. That is embarrassing for musician’s of their caliber. Would have never happened with Portnoy.
@jhonissonferreira86543 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂, o meu Deus, esse James tá de brincadeira kkkk, com o Mike Mangine, não tem conversa, ou é, ou não é kkk, não tem meio termo 😂
@youssefelhalaoui9975 Жыл бұрын
they always fuck up pull me under lol
@otavio41002 жыл бұрын
I would prefer James Labrie was a Robot
@scottxs9045 жыл бұрын
James is late and it throws Mangini off.
@kcrimsoniano5 жыл бұрын
Conclusion... Mangini IS a robot
@jaredklock87545 жыл бұрын
Conclusion, you have no eyes.
@chitonavarro731711 ай бұрын
Definitely not a robot, he has a big heart🎉
@MrAndrebatera2 жыл бұрын
His hair was for sure better looking before DT
@CHABIEPORTNOY4 жыл бұрын
Mangini just tried to catch james labrie’s mistake. I can say mangini is a Hero in this part.
@michaelharrisson16832 жыл бұрын
He's the one that made the mistake
@ncid85462 жыл бұрын
Mike mangini its a robot
@mrbrownstone28402 жыл бұрын
Yes he is, but he can play, you not. 👍
@89saur2 жыл бұрын
he is a robot, he just malfunctioned for a while
@brendannahor1460 Жыл бұрын
Mike Portnoy says that his friend Mike Mangini has the worst job in the world! "If he plays like the record, then people say he's 'too robotic'. If he puts in fills, then people say 'why has he done that, the record didn't sound like that?'. So he has the worst job in the world, he can't win either way!" 🤘🏻🥁🤘🏻
@johnforsberg98942 жыл бұрын
Thats very impressing. Mangini have a bad hearing, he cant hear his bandmembers in the mix on the stage. Often when that happends the other adjust to the drummer. But not DT, they are just locked in pace despite the drummer is going to fast. Thats amazing. And then that Mangini just adjust to Rudess by the handmovement tempo is wicked. Im really, really impressed.
@seanhartel5362 Жыл бұрын
I’m not impressed at all. They never should have made the mistake in the first place. Vocals have nothing to do with it. Mike was more than an eighth note off beat and it took more than 3 bars to get back in time. This is embarrassing for musician’s of their caliber and it never happened when Portnoy was the drummer.
@johnforsberg9894 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhartel5362 ok
@joshuahamilton1008 Жыл бұрын
His voice sounds like a balloon getting let out
@jimmyeich6250 Жыл бұрын
It sounded more like James was starting to noticeably lag with tempo (catastrophic for that section) He started to accent the downbeat over and over until James caught up. He’s listening to his band and driving the bus.