Mike Sigel vs Ray Martin at the World 14.1 Tournament

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13 жыл бұрын

Mike Sigel vs Ray Martin at the World 14.1 Tournament in New Brunswick, NJ. The $35,000 added event was hosted by the Hyatt Regency Hotel and took place August 29 through September 2, 2011. Dragon Promotions produced the World 14.1 Tournament and the Straight Pool Hall of Fame banquet which inducted Jerome Keough and Ray "Cool Cat" Martin. See more at www.InsidePOOLmag.com www.insidepool.tv and www.worldstraightpool.com

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@MichaelAndros1
@MichaelAndros1 11 жыл бұрын
Before Ray moved to NC about a year ago, he lived in Largo for about 10 years or so and came into our pool room, Family Billiards, in Clearwater 3 or 4 times a week. World Class player, World Class gentleman. We miss seeing him.
@ishaq24722
@ishaq24722 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Ray years ago at Elizabeth NJ pool hall. Watching him was awesome.
@robertdenson3375
@robertdenson3375 6 жыл бұрын
I hope there are some other complete videos of Ray playing straight pool. He is a wealth of old school pattern play. So much to learn from his deliberate approach. His approach to break shots for example. Object ball up a little high , not too much angle, a touch of draw, a medium stroke, cue ball ends up between the side pockets. No chance of a ball hitting it and scratching . He opens the rack just enough and shoots short shots into the corners. And he breaks like that over and over again. Old school. A very controlled smart player. Today's great players just blast the rack and wonder what went wrong.
@dominikz.1376
@dominikz.1376 4 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting; I'll have to check out more Ray Cool Cat Martin pool play as soon as I can
@jessetp5497
@jessetp5497 12 жыл бұрын
AWESOME STUFF!! THANKS
@nathanwhitten8950
@nathanwhitten8950 5 жыл бұрын
my favorite pool game...and no one plays it
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 11 жыл бұрын
There is the 9 pin version too, it's called "Goriziana", even though the classic and more known italian billiard is played with 5 pins. But "Goriziana" is a tricky and interesting game, because when you strike the pins with a kick shot it doubles the points!
@roncerelli6841
@roncerelli6841 3 жыл бұрын
I played Ray Martin at a pro tour event in Atlantic City, NJ, nice guy.
@johnstorton
@johnstorton 4 жыл бұрын
Straight pool is my favorite game to play, but for me, it's not much fun to watch except for the learning experience.
@joesatchton212
@joesatchton212 7 жыл бұрын
Max Eberle was obviously referring to Jack Colavita, a legendary 14.1 player who quite a few people consider among the very finest to ever play the game.
@APApoolplayer
@APApoolplayer 12 жыл бұрын
I have had the privilege of meeting and playing pool with Ray Martin and he is nothing short of an extraordinary pool player and a gentleman.
@JuanMangoPepa
@JuanMangoPepa 11 жыл бұрын
Mike taught me and a group of people how to play pool!
@fineartonfire_5327
@fineartonfire_5327 5 жыл бұрын
I’d LOVE to get lessons from mike! He’s my fave pro!!
@MrKinghuman
@MrKinghuman 11 жыл бұрын
99 shots, first book I ever bought, so has most.
@timmiller8593
@timmiller8593 5 жыл бұрын
The commentators need to talk about the game
@MrClint1957
@MrClint1957 3 жыл бұрын
I myself am grateful for mute
@EricCarver-kh4tj
@EricCarver-kh4tj Жыл бұрын
That's what the mute button is for.
@catmandont100
@catmandont100 3 жыл бұрын
Best part of the game ... 1:51:00 .......finally Mike shut up.
@robertdenson3375
@robertdenson3375 6 жыл бұрын
I was there. The old timers gave the younger players fits. This is in no way the peak performance of either player in this tournament. Ray and mike represented themselves very well. Both ran lots of balls. Mike was running 200 plus continuously just before this tournament began.
@InsidePOOLmag
@InsidePOOLmag 6 жыл бұрын
It was a fun tournament for sure. Except when my lighting fell down on Siegel !! LOL embarrassing moment for the video guy !
@pechinma
@pechinma 6 жыл бұрын
InsidePOOLmag any chance of you guys broadcasting straight pool again?
@Salesman
@Salesman 7 жыл бұрын
are these the tournament pro editions of the olhausens? ive heard nothing but good things about those tables
@timtglf
@timtglf 7 жыл бұрын
I have an Olhausen and from what I understand every table is made the same way. Same cloth, rubber, slate etc...So the play is always the same. You pay extra for craftmanship
@williamclinard2438
@williamclinard2438 5 ай бұрын
At 29:03 i hear the commentator making comments about what I have always referred to as the short game. In order to play straightpool And other games you need a very good short game. Willie mosconi was incredible at the short game
@capacola262743
@capacola262743 8 жыл бұрын
THE GAME STARTS AT 7:00 IF YOU WANT TO SKIP THE BULLSHIT.
@billysikes1374
@billysikes1374 2 жыл бұрын
Lol thank you, you sound like me
@youtubesux6361
@youtubesux6361 11 ай бұрын
I l9ve all the ole timers cues. They all have their own style
@xdshooter1
@xdshooter1 3 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of playing babe Cranfield many times at classic billiards in Syracuse new York. I would watch him run 100s of balls at a time. The man was a master and a very nice man.
@researcher3981
@researcher3981 Жыл бұрын
When Cranfield was 20-21 he tutored a 12 y/o by the name of Richard Hunziker, who by the age of 15 was destined to be World Champion, that was backed by the Mob for $500 per game in 1940 at age 16. When he turned 17 (nov "40) he joined the Navy to get away from their clutches. Got stationed in Pensacola Fl, and never left! No one including Danny Jones and George Chenier, both Champions, ever won the first game of snooker with 15 reds against him. He finally lost a game (he hadn't been playing) to Ronnie Allen early 1965, the first game of the day, for $50, but never won another game, and Cleo Vaughn's bag man lost app $2,600. Mosconi warned Mizerak about Dick, but he played and lost. Eddie Taylor broke even playing 9 ball, (short session) Relihan ran 100 and out the first game, never won another game in two days. A number of player came through Pensacola on the way to Jacksonville, to play Sammy Blumanthal; Jimmy Moore, Don DeCoy, Don Watson, Sonny Springer, Donnie Anderson and others. Sometimes dick wouldn't play 9 ball, if hadn't been playing. But 14:1 or snooker he wouldn't refuse....Unfortunately for Blackie who played snooker, as for the others, none got out with the money, either Dick won, or it was a scenario, where somebody runs 5-6 racks then the other runs 5-6 racks back & forth a couple times then they quit. Except Taylor, he quit $20 ahead when Dick was stringing 5. Squirrel beat him playing one pocket back up at the break end.
@kennethshouler3055
@kennethshouler3055 4 жыл бұрын
Does this announcer ever shut the bleep up and talk about what Sigel is doing? Sigel is running racks from about 55:00 on and this guy is talking mythology about high runs he's heard of. You have the greatest living player playing masterful patterns and this guy is talking about his own high run of 196. Who cares? He's not even paying attention to the game. Sigel ran 341 when he was 19. I know because I interviewed him and wrote about it. The viewer wants to know about the tactics, position play, shot making, maybe the stroke. Not some script that you brought with you and are determined to spew. .
@gavinhadley7672
@gavinhadley7672 5 жыл бұрын
..didn’t realize that Foster Brooks played straight pool
@tbcombatmedic
@tbcombatmedic 12 жыл бұрын
"Did you see him lay his head on the table!?" .. lmao
@wombra8314
@wombra8314 4 жыл бұрын
tbcombatmedic 1:19:58 :)
@barrykip876
@barrykip876 5 жыл бұрын
i new ray martin also from playing in house 8 ball leagues.he always had the highest average in the house[c.m.s place] i was lucky enough to beat him once and the house roared.i then saw him at a dancing lounge[new york new york]. i could cut the rug pretty well with the ladies and ray got me to the side and said kip if you can show me how to dance i'll show you how to shoot pool! i'll never forget that, and his book 99 critical shots is a must have.
@dontheshark
@dontheshark Жыл бұрын
I also played him league at CM's for about 5 years. I almost beat him one time. I cleared the table and missed the 8-ball (A tough table length backcut) and he still had all of his balls. He finished me off. Ray was always nice to everyone. He loved my girlfriend and was "jealous" that I had her. Also, we are the same age. I hated to see him leave. Miss him. Also, my daughter plays. Beth and Sam wanted her on their team. She filled in when she could.
@danielpincus221
@danielpincus221 8 жыл бұрын
great billiard at 35:30 by Ray.
@lukemurdock2236
@lukemurdock2236 6 жыл бұрын
You got that right wow ...only in straight pool do you see that huh
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 11 жыл бұрын
just to carry an example of the game that Max Eberle was talking about, italian 5-pin billiard. These are the two best players nowadays, in a fantastic match: /watch?v=oGOGs9OcyH0
@noahpatton4632
@noahpatton4632 4 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me why they don't have to drive a rial on a few of their shots? I thought that was a foul and i can't find anything about it in any set of straight pool rules I've found.
@richmartin1427
@richmartin1427 2 жыл бұрын
It would be a foul….but in straight pool a foul is just loss of one point and not cue ball in hand as it is in other games. Three fouls in a row is loss of 14 points. At times good straight pool players will intentionally foul to gain a long term advantage.
@dannyboyette120
@dannyboyette120 4 жыл бұрын
What in the hell kind of pool are they playing I've never seen no shit like this before.
@wallytverstol8627
@wallytverstol8627 3 жыл бұрын
I am 66 yrs old and i love my snooker table. i would play either one of these guys in 14.1, used to play it a lot on 9 ft tables but i like snooker better.
@harrymundy5393
@harrymundy5393 3 жыл бұрын
If you can’t run 100 + don’t play for any stakes
@harrymundy5393
@harrymundy5393 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Mike would play for 5000.00 or more a game 200 balls per game
@kennethshouler3055
@kennethshouler3055 4 жыл бұрын
AT 30:30 the announcer said that Willie Mosconi had the official straight pool record with a run of 26 balls. That is incorrect. Mike Eufemia ran 625 (easy to remember, just reverse the digits) and it's recorded in the 1981 edition of the Guiness Book of World Records, and probably in other places too.
@9Ballr
@9Ballr 4 жыл бұрын
Eufemia's run was never recognized by the BCA. In any case, the new record recognized by the BCA is John Schmidt's 626.
@kennethshouler3055
@kennethshouler3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@9Ballr BCA? It's in the Guinness Book of World Records, 1981. So they have their own verification procedures. I didn't know of Schmidt's. When did it happen and who witnessed it?
@9Ballr
@9Ballr 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethshouler3055 The Guinness Book of World Records is not a pool sanctioning body, the Billiard Congress of America is. Mosconi's run of 526 had been the recognized record in the pool world ever since it happened in 1954. John ran 626 balls on video at East Street Billiards in Monterey, California on May 27th, 2019. The BCA has already officially sanctioned that run as the new record. Here's a link to a news story about it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJ6Hlcxi2dmUXY0.html
@kennethshouler3055
@kennethshouler3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@9Ballr Again, the Guinness Book of World Records recognize the run in their 1981 edition. I don't care what the BCA recognizes. I don't know about Schmidt.
@squatch570
@squatch570 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethshouler3055 So you'd rather not accept one of the governing bodies of the pool world when it comes to an official pool record? Wow!
@wombra8314
@wombra8314 4 жыл бұрын
35:24 omg yussss! 👋🏻🎱👄🎱🤚🏻
@ianwatkins6202
@ianwatkins6202 5 жыл бұрын
Two wonderful greats of the game, Two top class players! But still not in the same class as the greatest of them all, Efren Reyes!!
@robertdenson3375
@robertdenson3375 4 жыл бұрын
Unquestionably both these players are superior at straight pool at their peak.
@ivanmcpcpherson2407
@ivanmcpcpherson2407 Жыл бұрын
Reyes never won a straight pool championship.
@chevive7
@chevive7 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how Americans learn to play on those tables with those HUGE pockets and they think they are the best 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 жыл бұрын
Another snooker snob Jesus
@chevive7
@chevive7 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnS-il1dr Hurts when it's true doesn't it?
@tree7249
@tree7249 2 жыл бұрын
P00l would watch better without the comantary.
@dominikz.1376
@dominikz.1376 4 жыл бұрын
Why did the referee nove the blue ball at aroubd 22:30? I thought the last ball stays in place whole the others get racked at time for break. Hmmmm
@kempercole
@kempercole 4 жыл бұрын
The ball was positioned where the rest of the balls would be racked. So it gets spotted. I don't understand why Mike lost his turn on the next shot. Do you have to contact the racked balls after pocketing the last ball?
@9Ballr
@9Ballr 4 жыл бұрын
@@kempercole Mike called safe, so the ball he pocketed gets spotted and it's Ray's shot. That's why Mike left the cueball down near the end cushion.
@dannyorsello8668
@dannyorsello8668 Жыл бұрын
I've owned Brunswick and I've owned Olhausen, no comparison. I'll take the Brunswick.
@_Ramen-Vac_
@_Ramen-Vac_ 2 жыл бұрын
If the cue ball wound up in the rack's way, thought it was supposed ta be spotted on the head spot. 138:00 . . . then the head camera dies and they talk about it like they don't even know what happened? ha. hmph.. okay.
@joshkv8240
@joshkv8240 4 жыл бұрын
8:18 Mike moves the chalk in line with the shot as guide?!
@AngrierGorilla
@AngrierGorilla 4 жыл бұрын
could be...
@5153flash
@5153flash 3 жыл бұрын
Looked to me he moved the chalk out of his way and no where near the shot he was taking. If he would have put it down behind the eight ball ,,maybe?? But I dont know how that would help him?? He just moved the chalk,,lol.
@joshkv8240
@joshkv8240 3 жыл бұрын
@@5153flash It's possible he was just moving it out of his field of view on the short rail and then taking another look at the shot, but he did put it (what appears to be) right in line with the pocket line of the shot. Visualizing this line for a long shot can be aided by having some point of reference like the chalk.
@danielpincus221
@danielpincus221 Жыл бұрын
The commentators are..?
@kchiang4
@kchiang4 3 жыл бұрын
Is that guy using a table cleaner or is he rubbing in the chalk? lol
@roncerelli6841
@roncerelli6841 3 жыл бұрын
I havn't seen this video before, I hope Mike Segal doesn't talk the whole match, I will delete sound.
@billysikes1374
@billysikes1374 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, he never shut up, and and the Announcers are Stone cold morons, yes, mute it
@walterbowling9733
@walterbowling9733 8 жыл бұрын
Mike just don't have the passion for it like he used too.
@dannyboyette120
@dannyboyette120 4 жыл бұрын
what in the hell kind of break is that
@philmann3476
@philmann3476 Жыл бұрын
Straight pool break, where you don't try to pocket any balls and don't want to leave any sort of shot for your opponent. In straight pool, slop doesn't count -- you have to call in advance what ball is going into what pocket. If you have the ability to do that while smashing the rack with a gorilla stroke, great. Most can't, which is why they break this way.
@stevecooltevz6503
@stevecooltevz6503 4 жыл бұрын
Lol sigel
@joeblough2921
@joeblough2921 9 жыл бұрын
Mike is an expert on global warming and a great pool player!
@frontdesk6225
@frontdesk6225 5 жыл бұрын
HE IS ALSO A PRO AT BEING A DICK HEAD
@ptdiamonds9414
@ptdiamonds9414 4 жыл бұрын
@@frontdesk6225 Yup he is !!!!
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 жыл бұрын
From all that carbon dioxide from talking too much
@wcrimi
@wcrimi 11 жыл бұрын
Mike played the balls out terribly at around 20 minutes
@kennethshouler3055
@kennethshouler3055 4 жыл бұрын
Again, Sigel is stuck at 107:00 after making a poor break shot, and this announcer prattles on, talking about the tournament in general and not the game in front of him. Awful. I used to listen to Grady Mathews and others announce these matches and they made it interesting by thinking right along with the player, wondering what he would play next and with what speed and English and so on. Not this guy. He's god awful.
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why I like Earl Strickland Presents vids. His commentary might not be as good as Grady Matthew's but he always commented on the shots and strategies without going off into crazy tangents.
@Mrphilharmonic
@Mrphilharmonic 11 жыл бұрын
I wish players wouldn't chew gum. It looks awful. Who's that other guy that chews it all the time? Nick Varner. Always chewing gum. Ugh. I DO like the vests though. I wish more players would wear them. They look classy.
@supermanalexk
@supermanalexk 5 жыл бұрын
I bet its because they can't smoke anymore.
@russeldevries3837
@russeldevries3837 5 жыл бұрын
@@supermanalexk your exactly correct
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 жыл бұрын
A pool player in a tuxedo is like ice cream on a hot dog --Ralph Wanderone aka Minnesota Fats whose name he stole off the Tevis novel
@donwillis5802
@donwillis5802 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry that these two legends playing could not be enough to keep these two 8 year old boys from goofing around and yacking about almost everything else but the the match at hand. My God! Unbearable. F-
@MrKinghuman
@MrKinghuman 11 жыл бұрын
5 pin billiards, the italian game, not 9.
@wyattshelton2080
@wyattshelton2080 Жыл бұрын
"Clown" "is that the 8ball?" Mannnn I'm gonna keep listening to you but so far I'm nor liking this commentator at all. Like my accustats fellas.
@alain7398
@alain7398 6 жыл бұрын
Sigel very nervousss man and bad palyer!
@samuellibby6481
@samuellibby6481 6 жыл бұрын
but... he won
@brockt9762
@brockt9762 5 жыл бұрын
alain7398 youngest player to get inducted into the pool hall of fame at 35 years old. And 108 professional tournaments won. Yea terrible 😂
@im2slick4u67
@im2slick4u67 4 жыл бұрын
He was voted the greatest living player a little while back you dumb piece of trash.
@harrymundy5393
@harrymundy5393 3 жыл бұрын
BS Mike is great
@edmundwong2236
@edmundwong2236 7 жыл бұрын
Ray's age and lack of physical ability makes him take the wrong shots which is sad to see. It's inspirational that he still wants to complete but then again like an aging boxer who must now rely on strategy instead of speed or power is sad.
@joesatchton212
@joesatchton212 7 жыл бұрын
+Edmund Wong: Generally speaking, yes, you're right. But while there are definitely physical components to pool, 14.1, when played by true old school masters, does not need as much pure, shot-making physicality a la 9ball, etc...Cue control combined with critical knowledge can be far more important in 14.1 than anything else. As proof, in this very tournament, prior to this match with Mike Segal, that 75 year old guy Ray Martin beat the defending 14.1 World Champion, Oliver Ortmann, a player who is around 1/2 his age. Ray Martin, at 70, has obviously lost a step or three. But looks to me like all his accumulated wisdom in the game of 14.1 is quite intact.
@harrymundy5393
@harrymundy5393 3 жыл бұрын
He’s there or not you couldn’t carry his cue
@researcher3981
@researcher3981 Жыл бұрын
Siegal turned out as slow a player as Crane.
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