Hi there, lead writer and designer for the Legion MQ, four companions (Scrapz, Wrench, Hanged Man and Skitters) and majority of the side quests. This video is amazing and I agree 100% with all your points. Here are some extra tid bits: 1. The Runaways and Milita were literally dropped into mod and forgotten about. This was true of pretty much every minor faction before Odin and I went back and added content to them. Salt Town was also mostly forgotten about, the two quests that were added were added very late into development by me just so that there would be something there. There absolutely should've been more there, and it's why none of the main quests touched it. 2. Lapn did have a personal quest and such, but was just... never finished, so all that was cut. 3. There were plans for an independent quest where you work with the Mayor, but thanks to the chaos of development it never got past the concept phase. 4. The bullets from Hardcase are supposed to hurt your health and you could potentially die, I don't know why this was removed. 5. The lead writer of the Crusaders MQ was, indeed, written by a legit author, which probably explains a lot. Also, the reason the nuke the enclave quest was so random was because originally the Crusader MQ didn't touch on the enclave... at all. This is why Wrench leaves if you help the Crusaders, since her whole storyline relies on the space station getting wrecked and when she was written the Crusaders had no equivalent. 6. The turret SQ for the NCR was made by the Lead Writer of the NCRMQ who generally didn't agree with the rest of the writer's thematic ideas concerning the NCR. 7. Because the NCRMQ was written first and considered the MAIN quest for the longest time, all of us had to work with the whole "legendary courier" idea even though we all knew it was freaking stupid. I was also the one who wrote most of the "wow this sure was dumb move by Blackthorn huh" dialogue because... yeah it was super dumb. 8. On the subject of NCRMQ being unfocused... there was literally no plot outline what so ever. Devil made it up as he went along and it really really shoes. Great video man!

I swear Hardcase must have been someone's self insert because he's such a massive Gary Sue it's insane. Did you know that you can use Terrifying Presence perk on him in an attempt to obtain Wolfpack armor from him early and it actually FAILS. Terrifying Presence, a perk that in base game made everyone shit their pants in fear including Caesar The Conqueror of 87 Tribes himself but Hardcase? No he's way too badass for this.

I will never not find it funny that the final battle can be decided by Caravan, a card game 90% of NV players dont know, which is behind the Wild Wasteland trait.

I think the best way to do hero worship is to have it be based on exaggerated rumors and be somewhat comical. It would be funny if you were walking around the NCR Camp and you heard soldiers say stuff like: “I heard The Courier defeated a massive, evil, genocidal robot named Doctor Mobius.” “Someone told me that when the Courier found a hidden treasure, he carried 34 gold bars on his back for miles.” “They say he killed Mr. House with a golf club. A golf club!”

The biggest issue I have had with this mod is the sheer hero worship. It is one of my least favourite elements from games in general. If people are going to know about my character it should feel like I earned it, something I really like about New Vegas is the Mr. New Vegas reports on your actions, he never mentions the courier was involved at all, you feel a bit more grounded

"There's maybe about 3 miners (in the rebellion)" So, it's a minor miner rebellion?

After Unsafe Harbor, I realized there should be three ways on how you got to the Frontier. Do you go with the NCR, you will have good reputation with them along with benefits but the Legion will automatically see you as an enemy. Do you go with The Legion, you will have good reputation with them along with benefits but the NCR will automatically see you as an enemy. If you came through Unsafe Harbor, your arrival will be unannounced and both side do not know you.

O God 2 hours...Mike, Christmas is in 10 months...

The NCR quests started out decent, in my opinion. Being a cog in an army is an idea not many RPG games explore. The courier wank was way over the top and I'm happy it's being addressed. Honestly letting the player command a squad of troopers to go out and help the citizens of the frontier and explore, or go solo if that's what the player wants.

One of the biggest criticisms I have is the opening. The opening is horrific if you play NCR and don't do side quests or explore before doing the main story and you give up all your gear. You won't have ammo, and you'll be miserable the whole time.

One thing that I thought was pretty cool about the VAs, Ray Chase the voice for Tiberius Rancor agreed to do the character completely for free on the agreement that he 1. Voice the main villain and 2. His character always wears sunglasses.

Honestly one of the aspects I am not too keen on with the Frontier is some of the aesthetic choices. Caesars Legion wearing Skyrim armour, ultra modern looking guns, futuristic sci-fi androids, space battles..etc. It just had some odd decisions in terms of designing the "feel" of the mod.

Me, who watched Rimmy's hour of Frontier reviews and now Mike giving us 2hours of his sentencing: (Grabs popcorn) here we go again

Fun fact, the ending area of Fallout: Van Buren was planned to be a missile satelite / space station built by the US from before the war. The station was literally called "B.O.M.B. 002" or " Ballistic Orbital Missile Base 002". You find B.O.M.B. 001 crashed in the grand canyon since an asteroid hit it a few decades after the war.

Hey I played General Oliver for this! Thanks for the shout out! You were very fair to the mod in your review. Even though I disagreed with some things that happened behind the curtains after it was released I had a load of fun voice acting here

The main issue as I see it was a lack of firm direction. They really needed to reign in the excesses especially in the NCR questline. Looking at you Nightmare Segment lol

This space reserved for any corrections I need to make. 1 - I have been informed that Wrench's voicelines are removed from the current version available for download. Until she is revoiced, the only way to deal with it is to either accept that you'll have another mute character, or to hunt down an earlier version of the mod.

One thing that irks me about the Frontier's writing consistently, and that Mike dips into a few times here, is how shit of a job the writers do at portraying the Scavs. Not that they should be more sympathetic, but they should be LESS sympathetic. They use very modern, pre-apocalypse definition of "civilian" as anyone who isn't in a military uniform and part of an organized military unit. In a post-apocalyptic setting, however? If you pick up a gun and start shooting at people, you are no longer a civilian. You are a combatant. They needed to write some NCR character who put their foot down and made it clear that people are not absolved of personal responsibility when they begin SHOOTING AT PEOPLE just because they don't have a uniform. It doesn't fit the Fallout universe, I'm sorry, by the Frontier's logic the Jackals and Vipers and Great Khans are all "civilians", too. It's really absurd and grating.

In defense of Salt Town, Salt - like my other spices and similar goods we can often take for granted like chocolate or coffees beans, we’re once rare and luxurious depending back in the day. Not to mention salt has its uses beyond just using it to add flavor, it can be used to preserve meat which in a world without many working refrigerators is incredibly useful.

Strange to think that Unsafe Harbor is to The Frontier, what Far Harbor is to FO4. A uniquely interesting and separate experience, far succeeding the writing and mechanics of the main game it's based upon. I mean, both Unsafe and Far Harbor feel like completely different games and bizzarly enough overshadow the greater shortcomings of their main questlines.

They should've had the guy who wrote the Legion content also write the NCR Exiles too, the guy can write a good quest line. From what I understand, the guy who wrote the NCR quest line also did a lot of work on the assets and mechanics of the mod and would leave with the work if he wasn't allowed to write the quest line. Those guys really shot themselves in the foot getting that guy on board.

Fast facts : If I do recall well, bare with me, it's been a long while... the "Unsafe Harbor" segment, was one of the very first part of The Frontier to be developped back in the days... this can maybe attest of the quality developpement we should had overall, if the team didn't suffered from... well... everything that happened along the road.

My favorite vanilla NV companion was Christine tbh, so long as it's well done a character being mute can even add depth. My only complaint is not having resolution for her, being able to TELL veronica that her waifu is warden of the Sierra Madre and the grandfather figure that drove them apart is locked in a toaster oven.

The Enclave needed to either be its own faction that you stumble upon and can join while doing the other questlines or just needed to be taken out entirely. Also the Helicarrier was clearly someone who really enjoyed Marvel and knew nothing of nuance. That was stupid.

You know, i was expecting a widow or tarantula in 40:03, not a jumping spider. Despite my arachnaphobia she is cute when she isnt actively jumping at you menacingly.

A friend and I were playing through The Frontier and one thing irked me that I haven't seen many people comment on; The amount of fucking EQUIPMENT the NCR Exiles has. They have Vertibirds up the wazoo flying everywhere- some of them built for vehicle transport- tons and tons of soldiers and weaponry and ammo and armor, and all of it from one military base they found? I'd expect a place like that to be practically cleaned out by the time they got to it. Dunno if maybe I missed something but it just seems strange they have that amount of resources, meanwhile the ACTUAL NCR has places like Camp McCarren barely fortified

It's this mod, and Hunt Down The Freeman that are so similar, it's scary. Both were extremely ambitious projects that basicl forsook the source material they were adapting for the sake of recreating Metal Gear. And not the fun, cheesy Metal Gear with giant robots, ninja cyborgs, or nanomachines son, but the Metal Gear with child soldiers, PTSD, boats, and a story that takes itself way to seriously. The only consolation is that The Frontier was free.

I think what would've helped make Blackthorne stay with his character is if rescuing the Courier wasn't an order he gave. Like maybe it was just Wolf pack deciding it or something like that and then losing their life once they got you a safe distance away. That way the "*FEEL BAD*" segments later on feel a bit more impactful, cause when it's literally basically an entire army that lost their life on an order someone else gave i see no reason to feel bad for that, that wasn't on me. A small group that died doing the best they could despite the odds and despite any orders feels like something i could see affecting someone. Like actual survivors guilt.

I can't tell you how I've wished for your full review Mike, thank you. Especially after your playthrough with Zach, I feel like your voice carries a lot of weight.

Mike fighting for his life trying to avoid the deathclussy at the beginning

a lot of this mod would’ve been a lot better if they didn’t mess with the canon and you played as a new character, I still would find it generally bad but I can see a lot of people enjoying it. the exiles didn’t need to be ncr, not legion didn’t need to pretend to be legion etc.

Ah yes, another entry in the several hour long Bethesda game review sub genre

I really appreciate the fact that you go in depth about your feelings towards this mod after watching the playthrough, it is a nice completion for what was already an amazing series. I didn't know how much was already taken out and if this mod does ever continue to update and fix things I'm excited to see what happens. If and when Fallout Miami comes out I'd love to watch you and Zach play through that as well and hear what you think about that mod and how it compares to the Frontier

Honestly I think that Hanged Man is the best companion in the Frontier, he is both funny and tragic, and his story is actually very touching.

The salt town section addressed the same issues I had with the area, especially since some of the few perks The Frontier adds is all about how much salt you can consume and hold, just felt like unfinished content that was meant to have more importance

I was very impressed by the level design. And the driving mechanics are surprisingly good given the engine they are working with.

mike this is pure gold. I haven't seen a legit game review like this since the glory days of mid 2000's

‘I want to keep the review of the mod only to the content of the mod’ Damn, what a wild and unique concept

It’s great to see an analysis that isn’t just “SEE HOW AWFUL IT IS ISNT IT SO BAAAD” and is a genuine analysis that takes into consideration the good parts AND the bad parts

I think the main issue with this mod is literally just the NCR campaign. Everything else is just kind of passable for the most part?

I think The Frontier is a fine example of just how tricky game development can actually be. A lot of times when people hear that some game or another has things like cut content, or that things were different before release, they salivate over the possibility of "hours of content" waiting to be restored. Or more cynically come to the conclusion that something was removed so it could be repackaged and sold as DLC. But the reality is, things get cut out of a final game because while an idea may have been good on paper, it just didn't mange to work out for any number of reasons. The Frontier has so many things in it that are incredible from a technical standpoint, but also clearly represent a labor of love from the individuals who worked on them. And a problem with getting too attached to something you've spent years working on is that you can be reluctant to remove it, even if the end product would be better and more cohesive without it. It can be hard, especially for people essentially doing this for free as a hobby, to give up something they put so much effort into. But the final product of the Frontier clearly shows what it is, a bunch of individual pieces noone wanted to get rid of, that they then had to stitch together as best they could. When you couple that with the admittedly poor writing overall, bits cribbed from other games, and a bunch of teenage edgelord content for the sake of being edgy, it does detract from the things that they *could* have focused on and ended up with a smaller but overall better offering.

I remember hearing someone say that the NCR Main Quest in this mod is what's called a "Modder's flex". Where it was meant to show off what the games engine Could Do, and the story taking somewhat of a backseat.

Your closing thoughts are about the same as mine, though I never touched it. It's sad that so much talent was brought together and effort put forth to make something quality only for it to miss its mark and get lambasted. Watching them go into damage control afterward and throw the guy that did the pipboy icons under the bus like the misting of his blood in the air would prove an adequate smoke screen for criticism while they tried to patch things up didn't engender me to their cause either, but that's probably just me there. If nothing else, assuming -- I think safely -- that Bethesda will continue to use the same engine to make their games, the technical things they've accomplished with it have set a high bar of quality that any reasonable person should expect the big corporation with a bunch of money and staff to at least meet. If Bethesda, themselves or through another developer, never dip the Fallout IP's toes into actual RPGs again -- Heaven forbid it, I would love to get another game in the spirit of New Vegas -- then they might at least improve the game in other ways that may be entertaining despite that.

For me the mod is a bit scuffed from the go, the ncr is on critical manpower to the point where losing a hundred soldiers is devastating and losing a couple of men in a substation is enough to have it off limits for years. The idea that the ncr would simply allow hundreds (but according to the mod a little over of under a thousand) go without a single repercussion is bizarre and nonsensical. The fact that a group of brotherhood from the powerplant battle, while wounded and with next to no supplies would "fall back" to salt lake utah makes no sense, it is there so they have a back story but no reason for it occurring in the first place. Lastly is the sheer amount of resources that the ncr and legion are able to scavenge in portland. Regardless of the logistical head scratch of making portland rife with unspoilt tech, vehicles, weapons, and salvage while also insisting it has been lived in since the bombs fell. There's just so many world breaking lore drops that make little to no sense. That's just from the beginning as well. Neon lights on space stations come to mind later in the game lol.

I found out during that one legion quest with the spear and drug that you could just drag the spear of destiny into the drug room, and grab both. Quite humorous

It's funny how obsidian made a better Fallout game in 18 months then a fan group did in 7 years

To say the few genuinely nice things I have to say about The Frontier: - It's a technological marvel for the engine. The vehicle systems, the boss fights, the creative uses of base game assets, the enemy design, all genuinely amazing for the limitations of the Gamebryo engine. - A world that takes the best of Fallout 4's world design. That's the idea that there's always something. Pick a direction, walk in it, and you should find something interesting eventually. - The sheer amount of content is *massive*. Speaks for itself. To say the major negative things I have to say about The Frontier: - The writing. Read it. It's usually not great. The Crusaders feel like a weird fanfiction, the entire NCR Exiles story line is just bad, the Northern Legion just feels like someone on the team was WAY too into the fascistic hegemonic empire, and that's just the main story lines. - The lack of direction made me lose a lot of interest in anything the mod had to say. You mentioned Salt Town feeling out of place and isolated from the rest of the world, but there are unfortunately a lot of these kinds of things, where you can see things where someone clearly started work on something, but got bored or left the team or just forgot about it, and you can see the vague bones of... something, but nothing concrete. And that's not to say anything about how thematically inconsistent the mod is with itself. Contrast that with the main game, and it's repeating themes of repeating and not letting go of the past, to the point where literally every single DLC has The Past as a central theme, and the main plot of the main game is about how, ultimately two empires that represent the United States and the Roman Empire, inherently cannot move on from the past and are doomed to repeat it. The NCR plot entirely changes main theme and direction like 3 times. - A world that takes the worst of Fallout 4's world design as a core design pillar. A lot of the stuff is just so empty. You SHOULD be able to find something interesting in any direction, but you can't in many ways. - You simultaneously have too much and too little impact on the world. There are places where you should thematically be able to have some effect on the world, and then places where something just can't be changed logically without breaking the player's immersion. The mod crosses both of these lines frequently, setting up areas where it feels like you should be able to change something but not following through, and also setting up impossible-to-solve conflicts that you can just... fix with few issues. A bunch of runaway slaves wouldn't trust a random coming into find one of their own, and turning in evidence of corruption is going to have some knock-on effects in a small town. - I'm gonna be hones, this one is kind of petty, but they really needed a voice director. I understand the voice actors varying in audio quality, and even skill. But the complete lack of consistency in tone and direction is inexcusable.

I watched all two hours of this and I have to say: I 100% agree with all of what you said. I've been watching all of the Frontier Videos with you and Zach and you just describe perfectly how I felt about every part of it! I enjoyed listening to this, too. I hope content analysis like this will continue :)

Thanks for showing, playing, and talking about Fallout and Fallout mods.

Actual Content of the Mod: great technical chops, bad writing, REALLY bad set-pieces, and occasional bits of narrative genius. EXAMPLE: "I don't want to keep throwing men and resources at the Legion to no effect" *proceeds to leave for Oregon with enough manpower and resources to absolutely overrun Caesar's Fort with an aerial assault in five minutes tops* *proceeds to run into enough Legion troops to absolutely stifle his own massive force despite this being a splinter group which has only recently been recruiting from local tribes*

Wow this wasn't expected, keep up the good work you two,you're Always very good at making videos and are very funny, i hope the Valkyria Chronicles 4 walkthrough starts soon tho!!

This mods issues seams to be the team had a lot of ideas but very little fallow through on those ideas or aren’t implemented very well

"The map is bisected by a river that you can't easily cross because all the bridges are destroyed" haha, just like real life portland, except the bridges aren't necessarily destroyed, but they are rather homeless camps and public trash heaps.

I found when it came to vehicles that the personal tank you can get is much better than any other vehicles in The Frontier, it's easier to steer, is much more durable than a buggy or whatever, many obstacles aren't actually a problem with it... and it has two weapons ye can use along with it being something ye can use to carry all yer stuff. So overall the personal tank was way better than using many of the other vehicles in the game. Didn't even need fuel for it either. Uuuunless you count flamer fuel for the flamethrower of the tank.

Yes it is technically impressive but this is a narrative DLC, not a tech demo. Just because you can do something impressive don't mean you should. This team needed someone to reel their ideas in and ground them

I still have the original copy of the mod and while it's full of the controversial nonsense. I have to respect what they originally made and I enjoyed experiencing what the developers envisioned and intended. Even if they were isolated in their own cocaine lighthouse

Its weird to hear that in a Mod that spends most of its time on the NCR has apparently the Legion as its best campaign. But its nice to hear something less emotionally charged about this stuff. Sadly I am not much of a Legion player, so I doubt I will end up getting the mod.

This. More In depth reviews of mods. I love hearing you and Zach give brief thoughts and whatnot, but these longer, essay style analysis are amazing. I would love to hear more. I think you have a excellent reviewer mindset and can really give fair and detailed feedback on things like mods.

This is the kind of degeneracy that the Enclave was trying to prevent.

I have to admit, I was a bit leery at the 2 hour review, but it's well worth the time, and I think were quite fair about it. Also I've said it before, but you and Zach deserve medals for forcing your way through the NCR campaign so the rest of us didn't have to. I could only make it to the start of the Dead Space sequence on the space station before I had enough and restarted the mod with a Crusader play through. And found the mod became so much better and more like a Fallout game once you get off the NCR railroad. There are a few things I would add to your review which I otherwise agree with. The first being the team's insistence that the game was going to be totally lore friendly and accurate, when in the end it wasn't. A lot fits in and is totally lore friendly... But then they throw out stuff like a race of intelligent robots far more advanced than anything in Fallout tech. Nanosuit cyborg soldiers that seem more at home in Crysis. Hundreds or thousands of working gas powered vehicles, and the gas to run them, when one of the core points of Fallout lore is there was almost no gas left and everyone was using nuclear powered vehicles. And finally a moderately sized flying brick of a Heli carrier thing that surely would have ended the Chinese-American war on it's own. I could still forgive most of this stuff in a mod, I've seen sillier and more non-lore friendly stuff. But you don't get to make the claim of 'lore friendly' then throw it out the window. It is also weirdly out of place when you take some of that gear and such and interact with the parts of the mod that are lore friendly. My final gripe is how a lot of the writing for the NCR quest line didn't make a lick of sense. It started off with such potential, then went off the rails so quickly. From Blackthorne talking in the opening flashback about not leaving people behind, then five minutes later telling you to execute your wounded comrades. To him leaving the NCR to avoid a pointless war with the Legion, to immediately getting in a pointless war with the Northern Legion. And as pointed out, how he calls Kimball a terrible warmonger only to do worse than what he does, and planned to use the Exile Helicarrier to stage a coup against the NCR... Make up your mind if you want to fight for the NCR or not.... It would have been so much better and made more sense if Blackthorne had remained a part of the NCR and been sent north with his troops to stop the Northern Legion. And dump the entire Liberator and the attempted coup storyline entirely. But my biggest complaint about the NCR storyline was how much it stripped agency from the player, and how often it forced you to play as different characters, or through preset sequences. That is against everything Fallout games are about. Even Operation Anchorage and Mothership Zeta for all they were rightly accused of being very linear DLC weren't as restrictive as the NCR questline. I am glad that the team is sticking with it and redesigning that part. Because otherwise so much of the mod is fantastic, and the love and care the team put into it shows. I looked forward to the mod back when it was in development, and I enjoyed most of my time with the mod. It still remains as part of my NV load order, and I'll play it again. I look forward to the changes they will make in the future, to make the mod even better. I may complain about some things, but it's from a position of love for this mod.

I just want to say i love you channel, your guys chemistry is fantastic and makes for both very silly, entertaining videos which retaining a grounded, and natural feeling due to your friendship really showing through. I like watching/listening to your videos while playing the Fallout games myself. Currently I've been playing Fallout 4 while watching your playthrough with Zach and am wondering if you guys plan on going back to it as it has been really enjoyable.

You would've assumed that the NCR campaign should've been the one that was the most well crafted, considering that the mod kicks off with you with the NCR, and most players tend to like the NCR (over the Legion or the Crusaders), but I guess the thing was designed to show the amount of technical skill that they had.

Damn Mike the opening statement about your view and approach to this mod, mods in general, and how you approach it all is incredibly respectable. Mad props to you.

love the influx of lots of videos, cant wait for more fallout 4, have fun guys!

This is a great review video because I watched it in it's entirety without realizing that it was two hours until someone else mentioned the length in their comment. It didn't feel long at all because of how well written and presented it is. It must have been a ton of work but I'd love to see other comprehensive reviews like this someday. Mike's great at it!

I think it's the first time I hear Mike doing a thoroughly scripted, video essay type video. You're good at this, not something everyone can say.

Love y'all's vids and hope that you continue with the same quality we've come to love and appreciate

Im glad you chose to address Your decision not to cover the controversy surrounding the mod. It would have felt dishonest to overlook it completely, and I totally get your reasoning for leaving it out.

The thumbnail changed, nice

Maybe the real NCR Exiles were the friends we made along the way.

I've listened to this review so many times because it's long enough to pass the time at work, and entertaining enough to get a chuckle out of me still

The fact I got an ad right as you began talking about the main quest line really added even more to the build up

While people's comments regarding the fact that Mike not saying anything in regards to the extraordinarily controversial stuff. Like the Sexually suggestive slavery and some of their remarks. Though I must commend that a review that actually focuses on the Mod itself as is. Is a breath of fresh air, frankly. Talking about the controversy does nothing as frankly it's been done to death, and the new devs are scrubbing the mod from its particularly trash things *cough* courier idolizing *cough* so a review that doesnt spend half of it beating a dead horse is a breath of fresh air.

1:55:54 "other than make this woman hysterical" I would argue that her reaction is entirely appropriate given that you just obliterated basically everyone back home that she knew or might remember, if anything she is surprisingly calm given the prospect, I would have just opened fire.

I just wanna say, i love you and every other creators who make this long form content. Really getting me through night shift every day 🙏.

Thank you for the wrap up and breakdown. I have hope for the fixes to truly make the mod great. Also just for the record, that turret section in space is also a straight rip from a dead space section as well.

Just commenting to help in the fight against the YT algorithm. Love whenever content creators try new things they're passionate about and don't want it to get lost in the algorithm

I just realized that they used repainted ODST shoulder armor from Halo for Dr Voss' shoulder pads

Incredibly impressive, loved the series and loved this video. You even said Oregon perfectly! Research well done!

It took me a while to catch up but oh boy it was worth it, I love seeing Zach and Mike videos of both fallout 4 and new vegas, I'm trying to watch them by date, I'm so late but I finally finished The frontier series, what a ride

As a life long Portland resident let me just say that the abundance of strip clubs is the most accurate part of the mod.

I still have the original 1.0 version of this mod as well as the first hotpatch that came out, I'm gonna preserve it for the history books

I loved hearing your perspective on this mod! All of your criticisms are completely fair and this video was overall enjoyable for me.

so I think a great way to improve salttown would be to have legion and ncr members in the town who would insult eachother or minorly inconvience them due to them not being able to fight because they need the salt

Wow, goof to know I missed some of the best content in the game due to a bug. Unsafe harbor flat failed to start properly and I got trapped in a bugged room with what looks like less then half the NPCs that were supposed to be there. I ended up useing a combination of glitches to escape, but then noted down the location and reloaded a save before I got captured and killed everyone there in a raid.

I feel like the Crusaders were just thrown in just so you had a different choice then NCR and Legion just like"here you go" However they seem the most interesting to me so if I play the frontier I'll side with them

Took me a while to find time to watch this whole in-depth review. Your points are strong, and come through much better than they did while (despite as much fun as it was at the time) seeing Zach having a mental breakdown in the foreground. In some ways, I feel bad for the devs who put all this time and talent into something so noteworthy and impressive, only to have it torn apart by the community for its glaring flaws. In o thers, though, it definitely deserves those criticisms and more, because any amount of this could have been solved with better communication between teams, or a broader net of more traditionally experienced Fallout players to call out the obvious rips from other games, to complain about the pitch black mazes, and call out the conceits that hurt the overall product. There were many darlings here that needed to be killed. Thanks for the thorough and thoughtful review, Mike. It's good to get these interspersed between the usual goofiness for which I subscribed to this channel.

Holy Shit Mike! Amazing job, I'm so excited for the rest of February's content. Keep it up, just don't burn yourself.

not gonna lie, the fact that you can forgo the entire boss fight against rancor with a game of caravan, if you have wild wasteland, is kinda funny.

Will say I will say that this mod as an idea is impressive. I won’t say personal options is not an option. My problem is just how the devs handled the whole situation and what they did outside of the mod that’s it. Modders are impressive in what they do, but just because it’s free will not mean it won’t get the same criticism I give paid content. Modders need to understand that.

I haven't watched the full video yet, but I loved the introduction you have made.

Did not expect an analysis video from yall. Thank you.

Goose Hollow has an important role for the Crusaders quest if you want the best karma ending.

My biggest complaint about the Frontier is that it's basically set in Portland in name only. I was born in PDX and lived nearby for most of my life. Portland has an incredibly unique atmosphere that isn't shown at all in the game. It seems like every building is a blown-out shithole, and sure, it IS the aftermath of nuclear war, but so is every other setting in the Fallout universe. In Fallout 3, you traverse the landscape and actually feel like you're in Washington DC. In FNV, you can walk through the seemingly untouched Vegas Strip and feel its atmosphere. You don't feel that same way in the Frontier. It seems like every building was shelled out almost as a cop out, so the developers wouldn't have to build a realistic Portland. And it depresses me because I was excited to see my hometown reimagined in the Fallout universe

I never paid The Frontier much attention after it came out due to the controversy surrounding it, but it's nice to know there was at least some enjoyment to be had with the mod, and nicer still to know the devs are making attempts to salvage the project and smooth out the rougher parts of the mod. Still though, in terms of content and scope this mod is absolutely MASSIVE and I have to give props to the artists, animators, scripters, and writers for putting together a mod of this scope and scale. I hope a lot of the other big name Fallout modding projects achieve this level of dedication from their creators in the future, and it'll be nice to see New Vegas levels of storytelling and role-playing from games using the Fallout 4 engine in the future. Thanks for this comprehensive review Mike, I hope you get the chance to do more content like this in the future! 💖

1:03:48 Tyranny did this concept of "liar revealed" better. Basically you can gather evidence against either Legion or Crimson faction or BOTH and by the Tunons law make them lose. Its SO satisfying and its a shame rpgs dont do court scenes more especially as good as Tyranny did

I feel like nobody would had made such a big deal out of this mod if the developers warned everyone that it wouldnt be lore friendly. From what I hear they did the exact opposite of that, promised it would be lore friendly, and then you play the mod and see all the nonsense stuff that happens.

Since I wasn't all that interested in the frontier I admit I checked out while you guys were doing a playthrough of it Now I kind of want to go back I can at least find the episode involving the space station because I want to see your reaction to the completely ripped off Wolfenstein section Found the exact video and the reaction was pretty much exactly what I expected

Hey Mike, Just wondering if the vlog channel will ever get up and running again. Really enjoyed seeing a genuine look into that turbulent mind of yours and the roadmap ahead. Thank you for the good content over the years

We are hit by a cold storm here in texas last night and i basically cant go to work due to how dangerous it is to drive so im glad to be able to enjoy this video