The REAL Reason Cops Wont Train BJJ

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Mike The Cop

Mike The Cop

4 жыл бұрын

A healthy ego is good for confidence and keeping you and other safe. An unhealthy ego is dangerous and counterproductive. Maybe it's not BJJ for you, but PLEASE train (especially if you're a law enforcement officer)
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@mikethecop
@mikethecop 4 жыл бұрын
A healthy ego is good for confidence and keeping you and other safe. An unhealthy ego is dangerous and counterproductive. Maybe it's not BJJ for you, but PLEASE train (especially if you're a law enforcement officer) We have a BJJ All Day group on Sheepdog Nation, the online community for first responders and all who support them without all the unnecessary censorship and bias. Become a citizen today: www.sheepdognation.com FREE in the app and play stores as well. ---- Check out Warrior Way if you're in the area: www.warriorway.com
@douglasfreckman8190
@douglasfreckman8190 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up brother.When I went to basic,because I had years of wrestling experience,Hand to Hand was many times easier than some of the other recruits who were pretty green in grappling.I wish bjj was a big then as it is now,because I would have,for sure taken it up earlier in life.Stay safe out there brother and god bless all of you first responders.Hoo-Rah!
@firerescueowl1536
@firerescueowl1536 4 жыл бұрын
I used to go to Warrior Way until I moved to California. Ask someone there if they remember me, I had an orange belt.
@Archangel4Truth
@Archangel4Truth 4 жыл бұрын
Unless your using it against a Sovereign citizen right Mr Ego on Steroids
@benjaminstewart4332
@benjaminstewart4332 4 жыл бұрын
Mike The Cop my instructor is a 20 year police veteran and also a black belt in BJJ also have 3 other police officers in my class I envy LEO who do BJJ
@observantone1783
@observantone1783 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this, train CPR, train sprints, train hand and eye coordination. How often are you running threw procedures no often drilled. Volunteer and teach for free, teaching will grow your learning abilities
@macmiller1678
@macmiller1678 4 жыл бұрын
We have a couple cops who train at my gym. One time while rolling one of the cops was kind of loosing the round and my coach goes “tell him to stop resisting” everyone started laughing including the cop lmao
@guilhermemrdeath
@guilhermemrdeath 4 жыл бұрын
This was a good one 😄😄😄
@miguelbermudez5426
@miguelbermudez5426 3 жыл бұрын
Well if he thinks that they won't resist in the street then he is wrong. That class was humbling to say the least.
@larryburns2806
@larryburns2806 2 жыл бұрын
Omfg I need to do this if ever in the situation
@willrangel4459
@willrangel4459 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelbermudez5426 shut up
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 4 жыл бұрын
My ego went out the window when I started training. There's always going to be someone with better technique, physical conditioning, and quicker reflexes. That has no bearing on your own personal improvement.
@shindrithargriethrat8408
@shindrithargriethrat8408 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a career cop and "former" Marine in my early 40's. I started training Jiu Jitsu about 3 months ago at a local Roy Dean affiliated gym. Best decision I ever made, I should have started years ago. And for the record, I've been tapped and tossed around by old dudes, younger women... and I have never had better training in my life.
@walmart7020
@walmart7020 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the u.s. army has been training in bjj since the 1990s
@johnd6258
@johnd6258 4 жыл бұрын
Army Combatives has been in since the mid 90’s.
@shindrithargriethrat8408
@shindrithargriethrat8408 4 жыл бұрын
@@walmart7020 I was a Marine, not in the Army. When I was in we had something called "LINE" training, which was an acronym for "Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement". One of the foundational principles of the LINE system was that it was intended to be fatal to whoever it was being applied to. US Army Special Forces adopted it after the Marine Corps switched over to MCMAP, the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program, which I never achieved a belt in. They have their places, but they are not good systems to learn to control people, they are more adapted to armed combat in a war zone. They don't translate well to civilian law enforcement or the street.
@kipallen4191
@kipallen4191 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's great Officer...
@walmart7020
@walmart7020 4 жыл бұрын
@@shindrithargriethrat8408 It's amazing what you learn from talking to ppl on the internet. I thought my supervisor who's a marine new bjj this whole time. I probably know more submissions than he does. lol
@PersonaN007Grata
@PersonaN007Grata 4 жыл бұрын
I saw my high school friend that I haven’t seen in many years. He was in the process of hitting the weights and bulking up. He said he was assigned to West LA, sipping lattes and check out girls but just got assigned to South Central. And those guys and gals are constantly having to wrestle guys to the ground. He had the right mindset. I think that if you’re in law enforcement, overcoming your ego and getting on the mat can be the difference of going home to your loved ones or taking a ride in an ambulance.
@matthewschutz1499
@matthewschutz1499 4 жыл бұрын
I started Jiu Jitsu last August because of videos like this. I've watched many cop videos saying you should train Jiu Jitsu, but it means so much coming from you by far my favorite channel. It's really special seeing you as a cop with a purple belt. I'm now two stripe white belt.
@mikethecop
@mikethecop 4 жыл бұрын
Keep after it man!
@Arsenec
@Arsenec 4 жыл бұрын
This is cool because I also started in August and also a two stripe white belt :)
@matthewschutz1499
@matthewschutz1499 4 жыл бұрын
Arsenec what are the odds! That’s so cool! What’s your favorite move to use right now?
@Arsenec
@Arsenec 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Schutz Don’t really have a favorite just yet I dont think. Im focusing on getting better with escapes from bottom and overall trying to get better everyday. I love it and cant wait to go back :)
@rogelioduenas8317
@rogelioduenas8317 4 жыл бұрын
I salute you sir
@timh1187
@timh1187 4 жыл бұрын
We have officers come into the boxing gym I train at. They come in real tough and leave real quiet.
@checkmate5101
@checkmate5101 4 жыл бұрын
Pigs
@timh1187
@timh1187 4 жыл бұрын
@Mattixx G hahaha a few weeks ago we have an officer come in. He is like 5.6 5.7 decent shape. man he talked more Shit in an hour then I've done in my whole life. We have this super talented pretty little Asian girl in the gym. She finally told him to put his money where his mouth was and try a little sparring. Hahahaha the most incredible beat down ensued shortly after. I honestly kinda felt bad after. He basically got Shit kicked by a super happy smiley care bear.
@ScottGarrettDrums
@ScottGarrettDrums 4 жыл бұрын
@@timh1187 Super funny, right up until you understand that that's reason why cops are so willing to go for their guns first. This method of "teaching" doesn't do a damned thing to build anyone up, it just satisfies -your- ego and drives a potential customer away... possibly from any martial art, for good. Instead, they'll just spend more time at the range learning how to kill instead time in your gym learning how to incapacitate. You didn't feel "kinda bad" at all. You felt great about it, which is why you're bragging.
@SuperPapadzul
@SuperPapadzul 4 жыл бұрын
I dont believe you. PA is tougher than any boxing or mma gym. PA(police academy). I dont know where your gym is.
@SuperPapadzul
@SuperPapadzul 4 жыл бұрын
@Mattixx G what dept you work for?...I thought so then keep your opinions to yourself!
@waaagh3203
@waaagh3203 4 жыл бұрын
I think BJJ is actually one of the best ways to improve actual striking (if you're trained in a striking style) because you no longer fear the ground, which honestly opens up a lot of your striking offense. If you fear the ground, you'll play it safe to avoid getting into grappling range.
@WillofStone08
@WillofStone08 3 жыл бұрын
Versatility>Specialization
@zedek_
@zedek_ 2 жыл бұрын
In that case, an art that actually emphasizes the stand-up component of grappling is probably better. Then you can actually decide when and if the fight goes to the ground, rather than being limited to merely enduring whatever is imposed on you. It's much better to be able to decide NOT to go to the ground when you need to, and also be able to decide that NOW you want to go to the ground _in a dominant position_ . Case in point: No one in the UFC fears being taken down by a notable BJJ guy, because they suck at it (unless they have also trained their wrestling properly) Contrast that with Khabib, and the very real threat of his takedown allows him to throw strikes he would not get normally get away with. You know what BJJ guys do when they run into a catch wrestler? They buttscoot. The same way an untrained person is laughable on the ground to a grappler, someone untrained in standup grappling is laughable to someone who is. That's not to say that I will always beat a BJJ guy, but he and I will both immediately know where I have a supreme advantage; so they will buttscoot in accordance with BJJ rules where we can have an even match for them.
@staceys2180
@staceys2180 4 жыл бұрын
I have signed my kids up for BJJ due to you. I really hope they develop the skills to protect themselves if needed. 1 month in, my 11 year old daughter freaking loves it, my 10 year old son, well....cries... but we will keep him going 🤣
@mikethecop
@mikethecop 4 жыл бұрын
So cool! Hope they continue on! You need to get out there too!
@michael_house
@michael_house 4 жыл бұрын
So - why aren't you training as well? ;)
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 4 жыл бұрын
My son's really didn't like BJJ. They love kickboxing, though
@m5a1stuart83
@m5a1stuart83 4 жыл бұрын
I teach my son Taekwondo and Judo.
@zephyrthewoderdog
@zephyrthewoderdog 4 жыл бұрын
Take him to a different club then. It’s probably the other kids he doesn’t like rather than the sport. If he doesn’t like BJJ - try judo or wrestling or a good JJJ club. Pointless taking him though if he doesn’t like it.
@dalekidd420
@dalekidd420 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, we see exactly the same thing at the range. I've watched cops show up once or twice, then retreat to the fairy-tale world of the police locker room where they feel safe that they are firearms "experts" and can't be beaten. And yet, even the most "average" sport shooter is probably a better marksman than the average cop on the street. Cops HATE being shown that they are NOT automatically the best at what they are often touted to be the best at, and far too many, instead of actually going through the necessary work to actually BECOME the best, retreat from the reality.
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how that changes under pressure, though. Like sparring in the dojo compared to a real-life confrontation.
@wesleyedge4499
@wesleyedge4499 4 жыл бұрын
@MoTC you fight how you train,
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 4 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyedge4499 More or less. And...?
@dalekidd420
@dalekidd420 4 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyedge4499 : Well, hopefully with the EXCEPTION of pulling your punches....
@railroadtrash09
@railroadtrash09 4 жыл бұрын
I've personally witnessed the same. Every cop knows another cop who shot himself in the leg or foot.. Also, a noncompliant suspect is not the same as an mma assassin. Fairy land is right.
@ImTheDaveman
@ImTheDaveman 4 жыл бұрын
If I were ever to have become a cop, I'd of wanted to be in the best shape as possible and have self-defense nailed down perfectly. The badge isn't a big enough shield with criminals who live to fight and have no respect for the law or anyone else.
@jonlanier_
@jonlanier_ 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I wish more officers had that mentality. I do have problem mostly with policy. In the military you not only have to prove yourself physically in the beginning. You MUST maintain that physicality throughout your career. Sure, the older you get the requirement lessen.... but you must meet them or you are out of the service. All law enforcement must have similar conditions. But something else.... the government makes sure you are paid as you stay in shape in the military. So should city, county and State for law enforcement! Let's say you are doing 10 hour shifts... then 1 hour of that must be for physical training... you get paid, to train martial arts, strength train, do cardio... whatever it is.... your job is also about being in top shape and you should be paid for it. (There, I've said my piece.)
@StoicObserverS
@StoicObserverS 4 жыл бұрын
"if I were ever..." What is holding you back. Sounds like you have an internal narrative blocking you from taking action. Listen, if others can do it, if others can learn it and achieve it.... So.... Can.... You.
@ImTheDaveman
@ImTheDaveman 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoicObserverS perhaps I should have added, "if I were younger and my body not as damaged". Does that clarify my comment for you?
@RoofTopFocus
@RoofTopFocus 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoicObserverS Some people have no interest in being an LEO. The pay is shit and it isn't exactly a career field that is fulfilling enough at face value to justify doing if you have no personal interest in it.
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImTheDaveman What kind of damage do you have? I might be able to offer some useful tips for recovering, and also for bypassing the damage so you can train without a problem.
@pdizz112
@pdizz112 4 жыл бұрын
8 years on the job, only 4 months into my bjj journey. Wish I started sooner :(
@NotKimiRaikkonen
@NotKimiRaikkonen 4 жыл бұрын
Black belts a white belt that never stopped showing up. Just keep going.
@quinmanley4928
@quinmanley4928 4 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring state trooper and new Jiu Jitsu practicioner, I found this to be interesting, informative, and encouraging. Thank you sir!
@bryandavies4662
@bryandavies4662 4 жыл бұрын
We have a whole gang of cops and correction officers training at our gym, most of them are older, late 30's 40's and have been there a while - are purple/browns. All of them are down to earth guys and gals and very respectful training partners. It's shitty the amount anti-cop comments on here, it's a pretty thankless job to begin with......
@badoocee1967
@badoocee1967 4 жыл бұрын
Understood and Agreed Bryan Davies OSS.🤙
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
The anti-cop comments are a direct result of bad cops doing bad things. Often because they've been trained that way by bad departments. Bad cops make good cops look bad. Bad cops make the job more difficult and dangerous for good cops. You'll notice that there have been BLM protests all over the country, but there have NOT been riots everywhere. That's because of all the good cops, from good departments, who took a knee and who listened and who showed that they weren't the enemy. The ones who made it clear they were there to serve and protect, not harm citizens and then whine about how it's a tough job and they shouldn't be held accountable for the consequences of their actions.
@agh9224
@agh9224 3 жыл бұрын
Arkone Axon it’s not coo doing bad things, it’s cops being PORTRAYED as doing bad things. Especially by the MSM. The overwhelming majority of cops are not bad cops, but get treated as such because of things like BLM
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
@@agh9224 No. It's bad cops doing bad things, and getting caught doing them. Also, when good cops don't take a more active stand against bad cops, they become part of the problem. Unfortunately, when they do take a stand against them... they suffer retaliation. Just ask Serpico.
@titanrott1837
@titanrott1837 4 жыл бұрын
I am a brown belt and GST level 1 certified instructor. In my opinion, every BJJ practitioner, who’s also a law enforcement personnel, should take this course.
@OCWatchCatMEOW
@OCWatchCatMEOW 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Loved the words of wisdom. We all can continue to learn, as long as we are open to it. Thanks, Mike!
@anim8torfiddler871
@anim8torfiddler871 4 жыл бұрын
When you have learned some skill enough to have mastered it, starting some entirely OTHER skill starting as a NOVICE can be mighty frustrating. It takes real confidence to be a newbie over and over, but it can be really rewarding. First, you have to get satisfaction from every little bit of progress you make. One thing that's helped me is to seek out training from people who actually know what the hell they're doing, not just some dub who's going to teach you wrong stuff and not even know it's completely wrong.
@jasonmurray8777
@jasonmurray8777 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for your effort to get more Police Officers training BJJ. I wholeheartedly agree that all LEOs should be training BJJ from the day they go to the academy and regularly thereafter. Our gym, Shark Pit BJJ, has several State and Local LEOs that train with us regularly in Winchester, VA. One benefit they mention a lot (besides how great a Kimura grip is for cuffing) is how much BJJ improves their comfort-level being near folks that are already agitated and how that comfort in turn helps to deescalate the situation. That said, we do our part to eliminate one of the other excuses you mentioned by providing a 50% contract discount for all full-time LEO, Fire-Fighters, EMTs and Active Duty Military. We have also done some free seminars for our local LEOs and have plans to do more in the future. Feel free to drop in if you find yourself in the neighborhood and want to train with some folks who wholeheartedly support your ideas concerning BJJ training for LEOs. Thanks for all you do!
@dsbond8048
@dsbond8048 4 жыл бұрын
Ego is why most cops will not shoot a civilian pistol match.
@shawnj1966
@shawnj1966 4 жыл бұрын
Some S.W.A.T. teams have outperformed military special forces units in competition but I get what you are saying. A lot of civilians train more with their weapons than the average law enforcement officer.
@AverageGIJoeOutdoors
@AverageGIJoeOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnj1966 most "special forces" teams are forward deployed and actually working so they cant compete....I would be hard pressed to find a swat team out perform delta or a team...… but most major metro departments those guys are former teams guys and other like minded groups.....
@spaceman5089
@spaceman5089 4 жыл бұрын
Yeti tracker 66 Yeah, no.
@gene8172
@gene8172 4 жыл бұрын
....but they have no trouble shooting actual civilians....
@ScottGarrettDrums
@ScottGarrettDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's that most cops aren't into guns. So, they only shoot them when they have to. It's only the "I was too pussy to enlist" cops who have the ego.
@vpweber
@vpweber 4 жыл бұрын
True words of wisdom, when you said it applies to every skillset. It's not about who is right, rather what is right. Check your ego at the door. We all learn from our mistakes and those that don't or rather won't because of a fragile ego are truly doing themselves a great disservice. Merry Christmas Mike!
@quityourfuckincryin
@quityourfuckincryin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for speaking for all of us Mike. You obviously have insight on everyone that has an mcoles number.
@checkmate5101
@checkmate5101 4 жыл бұрын
Reason cops don’t train: many of them believe they can rely on what they learn in the academy. Developing real grappling skill, sufficient to overcome a stronger aggressor, takes a lot longer than 2 hours during police academy. And it takes time and effort to maintain. Ego also plays a roll. People don’t like to be made to feel vulnerable, so they generally try to avoid anything that’s uncomfortable. I can attest to mikes point about people getting angry at being bested by a 150 pound kid, I’m 154 soaking wet after a big meal, and I can toss some bigger guys. They usually don’t like it. But that’s the fire everyone goes through at the beginning of training.
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not too fond of rolling with smaller opponents, because the size difference means that my size and strength prevent me from focusing on my technique (If I can just push you off me, that's not the same as a proper escape). But I LOOOOOOOVE to do standup striking work with little guys like you. It's sparring and not a full contact fight, so strength doesn't matter. Instead the little guy has the advantage from being faster and a smaller target... so it's the reverse for me. I have to work to maneuver and set up my shots. You got it pegged, it's all about the ego. If you want to get better, check the ego at the door.
@Brandonx-nb7rv
@Brandonx-nb7rv 4 жыл бұрын
The real reason I don’t train BJJ. I’m just lazy AF and the closest place is an hour away. But mostly cause I’m lazy AF
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 4 жыл бұрын
At least you are honest....now get ya butt to the gym bro 🤣
@dreaddemon12
@dreaddemon12 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I have been training in Krav Maga for almost 6 years, I have my brown belt currently working to get my black. I just recently started training in Brazilian jiu-jitsu for the last couple months and my ego does not stop me from being humble and analyzing all the movements and constantly asking questions every class. I even ask the dumb question sometimes if I see another student who looks confused because I remember being that confused student when I first started. Keep up the great training and videos guys!😎
@brazenmmabrazilianjiu-jits8488
@brazenmmabrazilianjiu-jits8488 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thank you for posting. I was not in law enforcement but I spent 20 years in retail loss prevention working with police. I have also been in martial arts for 29 years and I am a bjj black belt. I have been attempting to get law enforcement to join my place for years. My experience is ego and nonstop excuses. Very true money and time is the big one. Makes me sad that it's not part of their work day or mandatory. Problem is you don't know what you don't know.
@okinawanwarrior8689
@okinawanwarrior8689 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. In Japan, most of the policemen train in some sort of martial arts like karate, judo and jiu jitsu. Especially any techniques that deal with arresting and disarming. They would probably also train in BJJ if it is available there.
@roflswamp6
@roflswamp6 4 жыл бұрын
Masakazu imanari and satoru kitaoka and shinya ayoki
@DE-ew4vr
@DE-ew4vr 4 жыл бұрын
Been a black belt about as long as I've been a cop. My instructor is a soon to be retired cop for a department near mine. He always says "hit the nail on the head".. I tell all of my co workers that train with me, all cops are grapplers. From just cuffing to fighting. The thing I find when I try to get guys to train is the, "well I'll get injured." The real thing for many of them is, we work crazy long hours and they just don't want to find the time. Many do have an egos but I find positive responses from almost everyone during in service training. Love the video, keep fighting the good fight.
@jayblack9061
@jayblack9061 4 жыл бұрын
I am a 22-year officer. I started training in 2005 so I could get in shape for work. That progressed into me competing in MMA and numerous BJJ competitions. I beg everyone in my department to go train. One of the things I have found that it really helped me with is that I don't overreact because I am not scared of getting hit or getting into a grappling or fighting exchange. I still train regularly and I still get subbed on the regular. I do agree that ego is the number one hold up for most Officers. In my humble opinion, the reason so many Officers overreact and/or use excessive force is because they are scared or unsure of what really works.
@FreeSalesTips
@FreeSalesTips 4 жыл бұрын
It's a matter of toolset. Jujutsu skills are a significant toolset for the case of law enforcement. Without jujutsu skills what do you have left? Batons, tasers, and guns, and probably speech. Officers who don't have the jujutsu skillset can only go to the options that they've been trained with.
@Matt-ud9op
@Matt-ud9op Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I didn't know you were a purple belt at the recording of this video, that's awesome!! I have been training BJJ for a little over a year now and have been watching your video for 6+. Keep on keeping on!
@buffalowick8003
@buffalowick8003 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Mike The Cop is a purple belt?? I'm impressed man.
@219garry
@219garry 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't mention you're a cop. Problem solved. sheesh.
@SicFromTheKush
@SicFromTheKush 4 жыл бұрын
Theyre not scared of people thinking police are weak. Theyre scared of people thinking they themselves are weak. And thats what drives them to become cops
@na-ky8ou
@na-ky8ou 3 жыл бұрын
@@SicFromTheKush Yeah, of course professor dipshit, they only become cops for this, and for nothing else. It isn't like they want to protect the people and arrest criminals, noooo, it's purely an ego thing. This statement actually tells a lot about your personnality, you self-centered overly confident prick. Shut your mouth and buy yourself some common sens, idiot.
@spaceman5089
@spaceman5089 4 жыл бұрын
That’s unfortunate. It could potentially save their lives more often.
@NODAK9
@NODAK9 4 жыл бұрын
Plain clothes judo... Ju don’t know if I have a gun, ju don’t know if I have a knive, ju just don’t know.
@judoyodan
@judoyodan 4 жыл бұрын
Ju don't know how to spell "knife?"
@lilosnitch3247
@lilosnitch3247 3 жыл бұрын
u dont know....so u should "knee on head" them? in most situations..police cause harm to te citizen when they're HANDLING the person that has already been subdued
@davidtice4972
@davidtice4972 4 жыл бұрын
I taught a seminar on ground grappling for a group of Bruce Lee JKD type guys who mostly didn't know anything about ground grappling. Some of them said they don't go down on the ground ever.
@ro_meo19a.43
@ro_meo19a.43 4 жыл бұрын
Most cops have this power trip ego. That is why most won't train.
@6delta6pmcprivatesecurity45
@6delta6pmcprivatesecurity45 4 жыл бұрын
As a public safety officer contractor bjj has saved my ass probably 100 times. No matter what prison I work it always ends up on the deck.
@BigStickCombat
@BigStickCombat 4 жыл бұрын
I think of the undercover agent South Narc, who trained unarmed against 2 guys with knives! He said a lot of guys won't train like that because it's not an ego boost.
@Jusgoaway
@Jusgoaway 4 жыл бұрын
And the lack of good training partners that understand that you have a career after a class..
@NotKimiRaikkonen
@NotKimiRaikkonen 4 жыл бұрын
There's always one guy that rolls like he's trying to keep you from stabbing his mother.
@railroadtrash09
@railroadtrash09 4 жыл бұрын
Remembering a time when 2 State Trooper's were basically provoking me into a fight for no reason... It's been 6 years and here I am gritting my teeth dreaming I'll meet them on the mat some day.
@candelariotorres4590
@candelariotorres4590 4 жыл бұрын
My coach is/was a cop (swat). I was always surprised how few cops trained submission grappling. I asked him once why so few trained, he said they where lazy. Same goes for marksman training.
@haffoc
@haffoc 4 жыл бұрын
I used to work with my state's prison system. I liked to get with the defensive tactics instructors to find out what they were teaching and what they had found had worked. I was having this conversation one day with a DT guy and the subject of training came up. He said that the biggest single weakness of DT programs is getting COs to train beyond the mandatory time required for their certification. And this was a program that didn't require rolling with people like at a BJJ dojo, but just the general cooperative work that you see in most programs. We didn't get into the specifics of why COs were reluctant to put in the time and effort, but the DT guy left me with the impression that he just thought the guys were lazy.
@Kyle117031
@Kyle117031 4 жыл бұрын
Just got back from BJJ class tonight by my FTO Sgt. Awesome to see this video up!
@jesselowe9374
@jesselowe9374 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Professor Angelo and Mike the Cop! Awesome video guys!
@robbiefrentz9427
@robbiefrentz9427 4 жыл бұрын
I work for a city that has some of the finest officers around. They have their own gym and keep them in shape and trained in self defense. And that’s what is needed
@mikethecop
@mikethecop 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 4 жыл бұрын
I have been training in martial arts for 54 years and have black belt level in various systems, and I am absolutely certain that if I stepped onto a BJJ mat I would spend the next hour or so being tapped out by every white belt in the place! ;) That wouldn't bother me though, as I'd be learning new stuff that I currently suck at. I'm confident that my other systems are still valid in their areas but as far as grappling is concerned, BJJ is a huge eye opener! At 61 years of age, maybe I should give it a go! :)
@RoboBreaker
@RoboBreaker 4 жыл бұрын
Lesson one: no one calls it Bee Jay Jay. Sounds too much like a Craigslist sex worker ad. Its just, jiu-jitsu
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoboBreaker I see ;) Thanks for the tip.
@BTT72genX
@BTT72genX 4 жыл бұрын
I totally understand the ego excuse. I am a correctional officer with 22 years experience. I started BJJ about 7-8 months ago. There were already a couple guys I work with going. I am looked at as being one of the “tougher” guys at the Max prison I work at, and the fear of being exposed as “weak” was a legitimate concern for me. I battled through it, and now I welcome my BJJ failures as learning experiences.
@Dividenddream
@Dividenddream 4 жыл бұрын
Injuries are a big factor. I've seen almost everyone get hurt at some point or another when I was training. If that leo needs surgery for a torn meniscus then he/she may lose their special assignment or take a pay cut because they cant work extra hrs. That leo's dept is not gonna stand by and not fill in that vacancy at a busy unit and wait till that officer comes back. Long story short injuries are a factor and real.
@Denny347
@Denny347 4 жыл бұрын
I see very few injuries with the guys I train with in BJJ. There is ALWAYS risk of injury in ANY physical activity. That is no excuse to not train.
@bane3991
@bane3991 4 жыл бұрын
@@Denny347 I agree and disagree. I love jiu jitsu, but I have been injured before. It's a dangerous sport. If I get injured again, that would be my 3rd time in a close period to each other; If I get injured 1 more time the same way, my jiu jitsu training may be over for good. I can't keep getting injured and miss work. I am not a cop but I could imagine they wouldn't be too happy if you get injured and are out every year, no job will tolerate it. People have to feed their families and pay the bills. Most people do not have to worry about this, but a chunk of people do. My friend had to quit last year because he broke the same bone in BJJ 3x within a 2r period. You're risking your job over it, it's not worth it. I do agree that there's a risk factor in every physical activity so you can't shy away from everything, but at the same time, somethings are more important than others. If you hurt your shoulder 3x doing the bench, stop benching. The risk to reward isn't even good.
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
@@bane3991 Agree and disagree. If you're in danger of being injured from BJJ, switch to something less risky. I strongly favor classical fencing, especially for cops. Knowing how to properly use the baton defensively is a great skill to pick up. Also good: escrima. (And you can always reincorporate stick work into BJJ. Check out the stuff by the Dog Brothers)
@bane3991
@bane3991 3 жыл бұрын
@@Archone666 The problem with less risky stuff is that it's less effective. In jiu jitsu you have to spar and you have to spar hard. You don't have to go 100 percent but it's gotta be near 90 percent. If you don't you won't know if your techniques will work against a resisting opponent.
@Archone666
@Archone666 3 жыл бұрын
@@bane3991 Yes, but if you're looking to avoid injury, you want to avoid stuff that carries a strong chance of injury. And if you think escrima and classical fencing are less effective, you REALLY need to brush up on your weapons training. A good stick - such as an ASP baton - not only makes for amazing striking ability, but also blends very nicely into grappling work.
@robp.1637
@robp.1637 4 жыл бұрын
Could you give some tips in a video on what to look for in different gyms/clubs if someone is discerning starting BJJ?
@mikethecop
@mikethecop 4 жыл бұрын
1. A lineage that is legitimate with the instruction to back it up. 2. A welcoming environment with EVERYONE getting to learn and develop, not a select few. 3. Safety and respect being shown from the highest to lowest ranks. 4. Then it comes to flexibility in scheduling and price etc. Those are some quick tips.
@heidic3111
@heidic3111 4 жыл бұрын
What Mike the Cop said plus make sure they CLEAN their mates often. If its a good a Gym this shouldn't matter but I have heard that some gyms only compete within their gym so if that's something you want to do something to look into . I saw a video about this a while ago if I can find it ill share it with you.
@m.clayton79
@m.clayton79 4 жыл бұрын
If cops train bjj, robbers training parkour ☺️
@lilosnitch3247
@lilosnitch3247 3 жыл бұрын
? what?
@PewPewFig
@PewPewFig 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you were a damn purple belt in bjj, much respect! All cops should be this dedicated
@David-nq2uz
@David-nq2uz 4 жыл бұрын
Been in LE for five years and been training bjj for three. Very humbling and very necessary training. I wish the defensive tactics would take training from bjj.
@iHipHopVEVO
@iHipHopVEVO 4 жыл бұрын
Jiu-Jitsu will soon be banned in Virginia
@nasri
@nasri 4 жыл бұрын
What why?
@kalashnikov5544
@kalashnikov5544 4 жыл бұрын
@@nasri J3wz don't want people to be able to defend themselves. Sound familiar ?
@michaelvendick2785
@michaelvendick2785 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt that. I know what you're referring to and that law has been in effect since 1987. If you read the entire statute, the second part details that it applies to any militia type group with the intent of overthrowing the government, or something like that, but my point is, it specifically spells out who the law is aimed at, and it's not martial arts studios teaching regular people self defense. Like I said that law has been on the books since 1987 and no karate, kung fu, ju jujitsu, krav maga, or any other self defense school had been closed down because of it
@gbormann71
@gbormann71 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelvendick2785 Countdown started for a prick to come on to tell us that's because those are fake.
@davidweeks1997
@davidweeks1997 4 жыл бұрын
We learn from experience. That's it. The whole point is to improve, not pretend you're: "already as good as it gets." Fight the people who will kick your ass, and thank them for it. Yes, ego is shit nuts, quit following it. Embrace and live sincerely. That is the essence of all legitimate fighting studies. Competence, not ego, gives confidence that won't get you killed. Ego confidence will slay you. David Weeks, Tampa, Florida.
@justinmorgan4568
@justinmorgan4568 3 ай бұрын
Ego is the biggest defeater of man... I've considered myself to be humble many times. And yet, my ego has a tendency to sneak up on me when I least expect it "remind me" that it still exist. Be aware.
@marcusvanwambeke5676
@marcusvanwambeke5676 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Warrior Way so much! i'm in MSU rn and there's only taekwondo schools around and the MMA club isn't active rn
@jewel1953
@jewel1953 4 жыл бұрын
I did tai kwon do once a week when I worked patrol and it helped me. I needed it besides working out daily.
@TacticalStrudel
@TacticalStrudel 4 жыл бұрын
Ego and confidence are not synonymous. Inability to leave your ego at the door so that learning can occur is not a sign of confidence, it’s a sign of lack of confidence. A confident person is comfortable acknowledging there are things we do not know, which is a precursor to learning and personal growth.
@dlighted8861
@dlighted8861 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way he tied his belt. Is it a different knot? Confident and aggressive can certainly get you into trouble. Confident and assertive people often confuse aggressors.
@hayesman76
@hayesman76 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that might disuade anyone from training in BJJ is the fact that those training often pick up nasty fungal infections from contact with both opponents as well as the mats they’re training on.
@MrVictornistor
@MrVictornistor 4 жыл бұрын
My Angelo was my middle school teacher haha!! Always was a bad ass!! Great video
@KN-op3et
@KN-op3et 4 жыл бұрын
In a past life, I did some training with a federal LEO who did MMA (Shooto) and his opinion is that modified BJJ and even Judo is good for law enforcement, but not necessarily the 100% pure art itself. His perspective is that he doesn't really want to roll around with an assailant with a full gear belt or lose sight of potential accomplices/suspects if he's focusing on one guy on the ground.
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 4 жыл бұрын
I like the assessment and appreciate...i would suggest utilize both worlds...the combat/ self defense and the sport jj as well and learn to adapt. That has always been my focus as well as share with others.😊
@Eagle1349
@Eagle1349 4 жыл бұрын
I agree as a former cop who had 10 years of training before I ever became a cop, there is no way that the academy training would ever be adequate for real-life physical confrontations.
@BretAllen1
@BretAllen1 4 жыл бұрын
Trained with a few cops in tactical. The ones that could check their egos stayed around, the egomaniacs were one timers. Most had no idea how to safely operate a primary weapon (rifle) and were sketchy at best with a handgun. I understand the rifle skills not being great because cops aren’t soldiers, but the handgun skills I don’t understand. Had one SWAT guy come into our class once, he rocked it, but he was a prior military door kicker.
@1954cs
@1954cs 4 жыл бұрын
Yearly weapons qualification for most departments. Hard to be Delta force at a hundred rounds a year.
@0090cl
@0090cl 4 жыл бұрын
I'm much more proficient with a rifle vs a handgun. I'm a right hand, left eye dominant shooter. So the sidearm is more difficult with arms extended. My department also refuses to allow us to use rifles, don't issue shotguns, and we have to buy sidearm and shotgun of our choice... but have to qualify with the shotgun before we're allowed to carry it. So I'm hunkering down on training myself little by little until I can afford classes and the sidearm I really want.
@Pop_Shepski
@Pop_Shepski 4 жыл бұрын
Humble confidence
@anthonyw1499
@anthonyw1499 4 жыл бұрын
I recall back in 1986 when the local SWAT team came to the mat at our school in Australia (early days of BJJ in OZ) They were invited so it wasn't weird at all but after their strongest guy got his ass wiped by one of the gals they were hooked, and many continued for years as they felt that if this was going to be a thing, with members of the public able to "smash them" on the ground they wanted to know it all :)
@Macovic
@Macovic 4 жыл бұрын
A question. Is it also that bjj and judo strategy is about taking control by shorten distance? By shortening distance one is more susceptible to knives and such, which rhymes badly with basic police training to maintain an advantage. Of course whoever do a bjj lock first might have the advantage. But it is a risk getting stabbed. Perhaps many think whey will benefit from bjj skills. Then they find out the strategy is mainly about wrestling. Perhaps I am wrong.
@carystallings6068
@carystallings6068 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Firefighter and occasionally ask Police if they train any form of grappling, they've always said no ( there are a few in my Dojo however ) Seems their reason is the same as most people in America, they still think striking is more effective.
@williambreen4290
@williambreen4290 2 жыл бұрын
I think Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu training is absolutely awesome! I cannot say that I'm too fond of the sport version! I think training for real-world circumstances and implementing a takedown strategy and distance management training and defense against punches and kicks is a lot more realistic than starting on the knees and doing that pulling guard bullshit! That is my single and only issue with Brazilian jiu-jitsu is the guard pulling
@gmoops8986
@gmoops8986 4 жыл бұрын
I commend you on the desire to be competent for the job. Of course, I wish my locals have that same commitment. Can a student drop the ghe(sp?) and get experience with a full required attire incl a duty belt?
@glock22shooter
@glock22shooter 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to talk about the cops that train at my gym. But we don't have any. We have a LOT of other firefighters besides me. But it's damned difficult to get cops in there.
@railroadtrash09
@railroadtrash09 4 жыл бұрын
If we had an mma competition with firefighters vs cops in my area, it would be no contest. The cops would get decimated by almost everyone at our mma gym. Sad.
@mommajaned4352
@mommajaned4352 4 жыл бұрын
Lookin good Mike!
@saa7742
@saa7742 4 жыл бұрын
View everyone as bigger faster stronger!! NEVER underestimate someone... they might kick your ass.
@nocturnalnights27
@nocturnalnights27 4 жыл бұрын
That violet gi is just so cute on you, can you get one next time that has my little ponies on it?
@nicoelgreeko
@nicoelgreeko 4 жыл бұрын
Until he chokes the life out of you.
@nocturnalnights27
@nocturnalnights27 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicoelgreeko Spoken like a true pleb
@FlowLai
@FlowLai 4 жыл бұрын
@@nocturnalnights27 Spoken like a true pleb
@nocturnalnights27
@nocturnalnights27 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlowLai Spoken like a true pleb
@Joe_Snuffy7
@Joe_Snuffy7 4 жыл бұрын
@mikethecop you should do a crazy unrealistic jiu jitsu/ cuffing technique. Like iminari roll or DLR X sweep to some cuffing situation. Anyway good video. Happy rolling 🤙🏽
@ca177
@ca177 4 жыл бұрын
Its a journey through ALL budo, regardless TMA or Sports MA.. Start and get humbled to empty your cup, then start learning to fill your cup, then persevere.. As you grow you realize SOMEONE IS ALWAYS BETTER, and fighting is the last resort.. I think cops can learn lots of de escalation by studying grappling arts... A pin cools everyone off, but a good right hook I don’t think so..
@jerryrios1227
@jerryrios1227 2 жыл бұрын
I believe one of the reasons that cops don't train is because of shift work....switching nights, days, days ,nights can take a toll on the body. I train in the Martial Arts and I sacrifice time with family sometimes to do so, but shift work kinda makes it challenging.
@cadmus777
@cadmus777 4 жыл бұрын
I used to train at the police academy (sub wrestling, not actually bjj - my coach (and his) worked as trainers at the academy), and there were way more 'civilians' than cops training - and it was free!
@Lars_Paulsen
@Lars_Paulsen 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda like the first weeks in military training camp, when you find out that your mother isn't there to pick up all your stuff anymore... Sometimes that's hard to get through...
@dudeseriously79
@dudeseriously79 4 жыл бұрын
The pain is real and the rewards...well, are you familiar with micro and macro economics?
@Lars_Paulsen
@Lars_Paulsen 4 жыл бұрын
@@dudeseriously79 Yes I am familiar with micro and macro economics, and I also know that with every new thing you venture into, there will be some bumps in your way. You have to deal with it in order to get ahead in life.
@darealist3342
@darealist3342 4 жыл бұрын
Jiu jitsu is a reality check you quickly see who you can put in the grave and who can put you in the grave.
@reaperronin8898
@reaperronin8898 4 жыл бұрын
Very wise my brother...!
@KlaasVKH
@KlaasVKH 2 жыл бұрын
We have had a few cops at the gym where I used to practice Muay Thai. Most cops think they are tough guys because they use violence against untrained civilians. They feel like they are familiar with violence. But when they have to spar against another person who is really and truly comfortable with violence they get a reality check and find out that they aren’t the big tough guys that they thought they were. Most of these guys walk out and never come back.
@drewbob3030
@drewbob3030 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, I think before we get into cops training BJJ/self defense, we need to get cops into training for general physical preparedness/basic fitness. I don't know about your department, but the one I retired from had no physical fitness requirements/standards that had to be met/maintained after graduating from the academy. True, practicing BJJ or any martial art will help to keep you in shape, but I think the first focus needs to be on getting in better shape as a profession.
@Scorch1028
@Scorch1028 4 жыл бұрын
Many BJJ techniques are difficult to perform while wearing a bulky gun belt.
@M1911jln
@M1911jln 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, the same is true for action shooting competitions like IDPA and USPSA. There are some officers who compete in these competitions, but they are the rare cops who are gun guys and gals. Most cops won't compete. More than a few come once, start the competition thinking that they are awesome, get humbled by some 50-year-old computer programmer who is also a USPSA master, and never come back.
@M1ke10191
@M1ke10191 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, how long did it take you to get to purple belt?
@ZergleJerk
@ZergleJerk 4 жыл бұрын
Basic knowledge of BJJ and 'Wrastlin' saved my life multiple times.
@sandip-mukherjee
@sandip-mukherjee 4 жыл бұрын
Because most of them are trained in judo and wrestling and Karv maga
@nkcommunitypatrolwatch7965
@nkcommunitypatrolwatch7965 4 жыл бұрын
Ego is more likely to get you hurt on the job than training in JJ is.
@dustancorpman4574
@dustancorpman4574 3 жыл бұрын
Some Officers will downright try to delegitimize jiujitsu and training because of an unintact ego. Unfortunately there is a lot of scowl at training today but it will change. I hope.
@jmc4181
@jmc4181 4 жыл бұрын
I did 4 years active duty USMC and 29 years as a cop. At the age of 50 we were mandated to attend the BJJ training. I cautioned the instructor and administrators that throwing out of shape 40,50, even 60 yr old cops on the mats to contort their bodies around once every two months for 8 hours is a recipe for serious injury. Guess who got seriously injured after that? Me. A life threatening dissected carotid artery in a headlock escape maneuver between me and a giant 57 yr old cop who fell on me with my head locked and twisted. After being misdiagnosed by Workers Comp flunkies I admitted myself to the hospital where I was told 3 times in one night by 3 doctors that I might die any minute. 3 days in ICU, 3 cerebral angiograms, weeks more in the neuro ward. Years of battling workers comp and my own agency and I finally was forced to retire. And, I was in better shape than most of the 30 year old guys. So the training is valuable but it cant be done safely when its done every so often and without proper conditioning. So if a cop finds himself in a life threatening encounter, donuts or no donuts, use whatever weapon you need to go home to your kids, despite what the cop haters will say. Blue lives matter.
@tmoss1900
@tmoss1900 4 жыл бұрын
Great training, just don't be lulled into a false sense of security with it! Cross fit training is necessary for cops in addition to Jiu jitsu or hiit training for endurance.
@timparkes4718
@timparkes4718 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a correctional officer and started training almost a year ago and bjj was really humbling for me. I train in multiple martial arts but bjj is by far my favorite. I think it’s almost essential for my profession being around 100’s of inmates at time we’re greatly outnumbered. Being submitted by 60 year old guys is pretty humbling lol
@mrdune5479
@mrdune5479 4 жыл бұрын
BJJ isn't bad to know, but if it's not a 1 on 1 fight it's dangerous
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 4 жыл бұрын
I trained with a handful of cops over the years and i do mean a handful..like 5 LoL 4 nyc cops and 1 dc area cop. But its kinda true the excuses for not doing BJJ as the average person as well
@bigsexydaddy69
@bigsexydaddy69 4 жыл бұрын
I have several Police officer friends that practice BJJ, they are real good at it.
@themurz6576
@themurz6576 4 жыл бұрын
I think law enforcement folks obviously don’t want to be vulnerable and get worked. However, you can say this about anyone. People have ego, don’t want to show weakness, and are not used to giving up their power. That’s why martial arts in general have high turnover. I’ve seen law enforcement folks who are very nice and train smart and I’ve seen the ones who have ego issues - just like other people who walk in the door.
@feliciafelicity5456
@feliciafelicity5456 4 жыл бұрын
i will not be studying bjj as they dont teach it here in wasilla alaska. so i figured i would take seibukan jujutsu. and work on getting my black belt in that. i have my 1st dan in chinese kenpo. so figured i would take up a different martal art this time. and go as far as they will let me. and when they had nothing more for me to learn then id move into krav maga. and then over to shoshin ryu. from there.
@funincluded
@funincluded 4 жыл бұрын
Having a schedule that allows you to make it to a regular class is a major issue, the rest is nonsense
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 4 жыл бұрын
At the bjj gym i went to, there was a cop who was one of the highest ranks... Once i got him by luck in a guillotine, he got so mad he started going 100% on me( a white bekt with a few weeks of training)
@pappagamingpoo9766
@pappagamingpoo9766 4 жыл бұрын
Did he get out of the guillotine?
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 4 жыл бұрын
@@pappagamingpoo9766 nop, he tapped to that... Have in mind the highedt rank among the students is a ble belt with s few stripes, and this guy in particular was a white belt with a few stripes if im not mistaken, soon enough he will be s blue belt... Still he had been traoning bjj for much longer than me, and also has his cop training too... I have to admit, i landed that guillotine by luck... Not by skill at sll.. is not that im even close to his level, he was going light on me because i had just a few weeks of training and he didnt knew i would try something that crazy... He ended up turning me into a pretzel, make me practice contortionism and fold my gi while i was still inside of it in mny different ways as a revenge on my guillotine 🤷
@pappagamingpoo9766
@pappagamingpoo9766 4 жыл бұрын
@@gingercore69 That's a weird mindset to have. He should have just said good job and that's it. He is still a white belt. I understand him have an ago too but I leave that home everytime I got to gym.
@willright9146
@willright9146 4 жыл бұрын
Listen up rookies!! Stay safe
@NetAndyCz
@NetAndyCz 4 жыл бұрын
I still prefer Krav Maga, but I am not against someone training different martial arts as well. It is good to learn your limits and how to work with them. Or even overcome them with training.
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