When Your “Progressive Christian” Heresy Is Really, Really Clever

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Mike Winger

Mike Winger

3 жыл бұрын

Since Brandan Robertson has accused me of editing his clips to take him out of context here is a link to the full teaching on “Truth” that I got the clips from. The teaching portion begins at about 37 minutes in. You can see for yourself that I haven’t done that. vimeo.com/257414376
Here’s the video where Brandan makes this rather odd and baseless claim. vm.tiktok.com/ZMeaj3R3H/
He also said that I don’t want people to ask questions. Which is a great time to remind you of my weekly Friday Q&A! See you there!
Sometimes it's helpful to examine a theological car accident. Brandan, or any of those who share his views, I have no bitterness toward you and hope that one day we can look at the Bible together and see the same Jesus.
Most of the other video content I used can be found on Brandan Robertson's web site. Just match the background of the video to find whichever one you are looking for. www.brandanrobertson.com/audio...
My website BibleThinker.org

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@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 3 жыл бұрын
Since Brandan Robertson has accused me of editing his clips to take him out of context here is a link to the full teaching on “Truth” that I got the clips from. The teaching portion begins at about 37 minutes in. You can see for yourself that I haven’t done that. vimeo.com/257414376 Here’s the video where Brandan makes this rather odd and baseless claim. vm.tiktok.com/ZMeaj3R3H/ He also said that I don’t want people to ask questions. Which is a great time to remind you of my weekly Friday Q&A! See you there!
@revbrandanrobertson
@revbrandanrobertson 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a baseless claim, Mike. This is a video of fear-mongering, and is not at all what we talked about you were going to do. Deeply saddening.
@pyro7521
@pyro7521 3 жыл бұрын
good bless you mike
@revbrandanrobertson
@revbrandanrobertson 3 жыл бұрын
Also, you didn't point out that this message was given, not to a Christian community, but a Spiritual community. Therefore, the language I used to teach here was very different then what I teach in my own church. Which again, is why you choosing this one message out of the hundreds of hours of preaching I have, is disengenious to say the least.
@newt_3097
@newt_3097 3 жыл бұрын
@@revbrandanrobertson well don't want to break a bubble but people cannot expand their minds and fit God according to their perspective, rather God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 3 жыл бұрын
@@revbrandanrobertson Neither of those statements are true. I literally told you my critique about this specific “truth sermon” to you over the phone in our nearly two hour talk. I was extremely open with you, and honest. I told you that you had the serpent telling the truth and God lying. I also explained several other critiques that I repeated in this video. I think what you are saying here, along with saying that I selectively edited you out of context to misrepresent you, is deceptive. My only concern about having that private chat with you was that you would later misrepresent it the way you have misrepresented Scripture for your own purposes. My intention was not to talk publicly about our private conversation because I think it’s rude and lends itself toward one party being able to act like they are the spokesman for the other, when we obviously disagree on some very important things. But if you are going to bring it up to undermine me with false allegations then I’m going to respond.
@armchairtheologian
@armchairtheologian 3 жыл бұрын
When you paint Satan as the truth bearer and God as a liar, you show your true allegiance.
@sunilchoudhury8957
@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын
It shows he is currently deceived.... but I don't think it shows an allegiance to Satan. Obviously if he's deceived, he won't be consistent with the truth... and being a teacher, he will be judged accordingly should he fail to repent... but if he's sincere about his love for Christ, the Holy Spirit will guide him to truth. If he's not, I pray he becomes sincere about it. By all means, rebuke... but we are not the judges of his heart. That alone is God's responsibility.
@scwienert
@scwienert 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunilchoudhury8957 wrong. Jesus said you will know them by their fruit. He is a bad tree because he is bearing bad fruit and Jesus instructs us to judge (discern) him based on that so that we may “beware”. Bad fruit like this doesn’t come from a “sincere” tree.
@DearestFandoms
@DearestFandoms 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunilchoudhury8957 Following up the previous reply with its Bible reference, adding a little context to what Jesus said right before talking about good/bad fruit: “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad, for the tree is known by its fruit. You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:30-37
@sunilchoudhury8957
@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын
@@scwienert lest we forget that jesus washed Judas' feet to give him the opportunity to be forgiven.
@sunilchoudhury8957
@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын
@@DearestFandoms does every born again person have perfect theology? No. Is everyone who professes Christ born again? No. Is there any sin that cannot be forgiven besides blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? No Is God slow to judgement hoping that all should repent? Yes. Is this young man wrong today? Yes. Can he still repent? Yes He's deceived today. That doesn't define his allegiance.
@grubbsbubb3276
@grubbsbubb3276 2 жыл бұрын
Brandan's theology is a literal reflection of the lies the serpent told in the garden. 1. God is a liar. 2. You will not die. 3. You will be like God.
@coolstorybrou8324
@coolstorybrou8324 2 жыл бұрын
Facts, goes to show Satan's strategy is the same today as was in the garden of Eden.
@RussellHernandez73
@RussellHernandez73 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, except we did become like him. "Then the LORD God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil'" (Gen 3:22) Classic half-truth.
@cdecross9314
@cdecross9314 2 жыл бұрын
📖Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron...I Timothy 4:1‭-‬2 📖Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” II Timothy 2:15‭-‬19
@cdecross9314
@cdecross9314 2 жыл бұрын
@@RussellHernandez73 but that really DIDN'T elevate us to God status as the enemy deceitfully promoted; we ended up dying on the spot spiritually, alienated from God and the TRUE holy knowledge He desired for us...
@deeschoe1245
@deeschoe1245 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolstorybrou8324 what facts?
@lucyfox8298
@lucyfox8298 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who has raised a child through their teenage years is very familiar with how Brandon thinks. He has to make scripture agree with his lusts and wants. We need to pray for Brandon.
@DgardsGaming
@DgardsGaming 8 ай бұрын
there it is, lust. the thing people mistake for love these days. They will say things like Love is Love, but not really know Lust is not Love.
@tempvssolvs
@tempvssolvs 6 ай бұрын
We live in an age of instant gratification, so the concept of discipline and short term discomfort in exchange for long term success or gain is almost lost. And love definitely includes giving someone truth that may be painful, but is meant to help them going forward. Love is the parent disciplining their child so they grow up stronger and wiser. People today see love as lust and constant sycophantic affirmation... And that's how we end up with some of these disgusting views of what it means to love someone.
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 6 ай бұрын
I'm not praying for him sorry.
@Anabee3
@Anabee3 5 ай бұрын
A thousand "likes" to you Mama Fox!
@sues3218
@sues3218 3 ай бұрын
@nqnix_ Someone may have already told him the gospel, and he may have already rejected it in unbelief. If he did, you can't pray that away. Pray for the ignorant who are listening to him, that God would show them truth and remove the scales from their eyes. The willfully ignorant are a different story. They want teachings that tickle their ears, and tell them what THEY want to hear, and not what God actually says. They are in rebellion against the LORD. You may want to pray that God give them a humbling like he did for Nebuchanezzar. You need to discern what you are dealing with, and act accordingly. Sometimes the iniquity is full and the wound is incurable. If they reject God's truth, let your peace return to you and move on to tell another. There are different soils of the heart out there, some will land on good soil, but some won't. Read the parable of the sower of the seed in all the gospel accounts it is contained within (Matthew, Mark, and Luke), so read them all. God Bless.
@thekingatlarge
@thekingatlarge 3 ай бұрын
The fact that God hasn’t destroyed everything that’s against Him is a true testament of His mercy and holiness.
@Drewicitoz
@Drewicitoz Ай бұрын
I love Jesus ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@teriyaki6914
@teriyaki6914 Ай бұрын
He kind of did that when he flooded the earth. Not a chill move bro
@Foreva_Trading
@Foreva_Trading Ай бұрын
He's also going to use it as a testimony against them when all the scrolls and books are open, so they are without excuse
@warholcow
@warholcow 23 күн бұрын
@@teriyaki6914 but he made a covenant bro not to do it again.
@hs7wings
@hs7wings 23 күн бұрын
God's grace 🙏
@garrettmorano3038
@garrettmorano3038 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine more terrifying words than hearing Jesus say "I never knew you."
@jyow-xe7pw
@jyow-xe7pw 3 жыл бұрын
There is none.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Many who follow man, and not Christ, will hear those words.
@jdm11060
@jdm11060 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@sallyannhines7193
@sallyannhines7193 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😶
@dallywilliams6606
@dallywilliams6606 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@AlexJosten
@AlexJosten Жыл бұрын
"I don't believe in hell" The greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince people he doesn't exist.
@grimuk3817
@grimuk3817 Жыл бұрын
And yet they are entirely different things.
@sol-hunter2332
@sol-hunter2332 Жыл бұрын
@@grimuk3817 yet intertwined. To say there is no Hell, is a way to tell people there is no punishment for indulging in sin.
@grimuk3817
@grimuk3817 Жыл бұрын
@@sol-hunter2332 No. That's just the interpretation of someone who doesn't have a bloody clue what they are talking about. The Bible is _very_ clear ... What do you think the Lake of Fire is?
@shilohbased211
@shilohbased211 Жыл бұрын
​@@grimuk3817 yes it is
@grimuk3817
@grimuk3817 Жыл бұрын
@@shilohbased211 If that is your attempt to convince me ... I grade you a very poor *F-*
@hitune
@hitune Жыл бұрын
Wow, God’s patience not to strike him down where he stands
@sameash3153
@sameash3153 Жыл бұрын
Psalm 74:11 O God, how long shall the adversary do this dishonour * how long shall the enemy blaspheme thy Name, for ever? 12 Why withdrawest thou thy hand * why pluckest thou not thy right hand out of thy bosom to consume the enemy?
@manuelochoa9266
@manuelochoa9266 Ай бұрын
Exactly! 👍
@1ofThemRangers
@1ofThemRangers 11 ай бұрын
2 years later and this is still revealing the truth and keeping people on track. KEEP DOING WHAT YOURE DOING, brother
@derrickcarson
@derrickcarson 3 жыл бұрын
This man said "God kinda lied" and that Satan "spoke a word of truth". That was all I needed to hear to know who this man serves.
@thechickengamer9521
@thechickengamer9521 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@engmed4400
@engmed4400 3 жыл бұрын
I figured it out when he put out a video claiming that Jesus was racist. This just sort of cements it.
@aerialpunk
@aerialpunk 3 жыл бұрын
@@engmed4400 In that one, when he said "She spoke truth to power", I rolled my eyes so hard I'm surprised they didn't fall backwards into my head 🤣
@gweltawenydd6176
@gweltawenydd6176 3 жыл бұрын
I have still to find a clear explanation of how that is not exactly what happened. God said, "on the DAY that you eat of it you shall surely DIE." They ate and continued to live for centuries. The serpent said, "You shall not surely die for god knows that when you eat of it you shall become like him knowing good and evil." And sure enough they become like god in the respect that they know good and evil. The serpent even enlightens us about gods motivation because god later says "Lest they eat of the tree of life and become like one of us and live forever." (something along those lines I don't have the exact quote any more) I have long thought that the god of the old testament seems very different than the god of the new. That's one of the reasons I began to incorporate some aspects of Gnosticism into my spirituality.
@derrickcarson
@derrickcarson 3 жыл бұрын
@@gweltawenydd6176 Where are Adam and Eve right now? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that they "surely died"
@sydnifrancis388
@sydnifrancis388 3 жыл бұрын
I was pagan for 7 years and when I accepted Jesus I didn't know the Bible and I watched a lot of Tiktok, which is where I found this guy. I had no way of knowing that what he was saying was false and a lot of it sounded right to me. It wasn't until I deleted Tiktok and began studying the Bible that I understood how warped his ministry is and as a new Christian he almost led me away from God. It was God who convicted me to get rid of Tiktok and it's been mindblowing to see how he saved me from something I didn't even realize was a problem. This teaching is so so evil and dangerous.
@TheMidnightModder
@TheMidnightModder 3 жыл бұрын
The media my peers suck into their minds is destroying them and most are so lost they can't or refuse to understand it. I've got an acquaintance who's going through the same thing. She's a "Christian" who "reads her bible" but her view of the truth is so warped and now she's flagrantly bisexual.
@samanthajeffers9339
@samanthajeffers9339 3 жыл бұрын
@Deja Sierra that’s amazing. I’m glad that you got away from that.
@samanthajeffers9339
@samanthajeffers9339 3 жыл бұрын
@Deja Sierra You’re welcome (:
@deepeetut
@deepeetut 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back ❤️
@snowberriesx
@snowberriesx 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and that’s so dangerous because as a baby Christian if you hear someone use the name ‘Jesus’ you just automatically think that person is a friend or trustworthy. Your discernment isn’t up to par yet when you’re just starting off. Btw congrats on being saved! I was saved by Jesus too from the occult/new age just a couple months ago. 😊🙏 Another one pulled out of the dark and into the light!
@rlrieth
@rlrieth 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this so clear. I have not been confused about Progressive Christianity but I’ve felt that they are so deceived that all I can do is pray for my friends that are under the spell. It’s satisfying to them to think they are not in sin and people like Brandon Robertson justify that sin. It makes me want to cry.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 ай бұрын
Ikr, Brandon and his followers ignore The Bible and think they're ok even though they're not! Brandon is not a very good Christian, he is a deceiver. I hope he will actually become good one day, but I doubt it. D:
@VoVina111
@VoVina111 6 ай бұрын
But y'all teach faith only and sins don't affect salvation and wonder why churches divert like this and assume that homosexuality doesn't affect it. After all why would it if sin didn't affect salvation? Y'all Western Christians are sowing what you reaped
@dafence_
@dafence_ 5 ай бұрын
​@VoVina111 western churches teach this bc its the truth. if you are truly saved and truly love God, you wouldnt indulge in sin bc that is a direct offense against God who loves you. its not the west reaping what they sow, its Satan finding an avenue to deceive people in today's individualistic "what can i get from this" western culture. i pray you can see that
@tyleradams6990
@tyleradams6990 2 ай бұрын
​@@VoVina111salvation by faith alone isn't the western church. It's what Jesus taught! The thing about salvation by faith is when you have true faith, you don't go around blaspheming the Lord every chance you get. A truly faithful and saved person does not make plans to willingly sin. They do not justify their sin. They repent it, flee from it, and pray and admit to the Lord and ask for forgiveness when they fall. But I'm sorry you feel that works are what saves a person. Or at least, that's what your comment sounds like you're saying. Which is just as wrong and blasphemous as this Brandon robinson guy
@tyleradams6990
@tyleradams6990 2 ай бұрын
​@@VoVina111also, no true church is gonna teach that sin doesn't effect salvation.... that sounds like some head canon you made up after hearing these progressive preachers. Which are by and large not representative of what the faith is. Progressive churches are not indicative of western churches. They're indicative of satanic churches.
@lindawitz3548
@lindawitz3548 6 ай бұрын
Im so thankful for your videos. I was away from God for many years. And December of last year God woke me up and told me to read my bible. I was so sick with an infection that the doctors didn't even know what it was. The whole left side of my face and neck was swollen almost three times its normal size.. I opened my bible and read all day and have read everyday since. setting up in my bed God touched and healed me . Thank you Jesus. But there are so many ministers out there that just don't seem right to me, but I feel so blessed to have found you. I love how you bring these things to light but in love not judgment. Thank you for your ministry Pastor Mike
@jonengler1296
@jonengler1296 3 жыл бұрын
"The serpent speaks a word of truth..." Forget a car accident. This whole thing is like a theological Chernobyl.
@heatherreese5915
@heatherreese5915 3 жыл бұрын
Or like a theological mass murder. Chernobyl was an accident, this dude is butchering God’s word like Michael Myers 😬
@carlosquinones2242
@carlosquinones2242 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@stevenrogersfineart4224
@stevenrogersfineart4224 3 жыл бұрын
😆
@christianastrophobe
@christianastrophobe 3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherreese5915 no cap
@marinalina6348
@marinalina6348 3 жыл бұрын
He should just change it to Adam and Steve and be done with it
@BeefyMatt
@BeefyMatt Жыл бұрын
The phrase "they will come to you, as wolves in sheep's clothing" has never been so true
@J.F.331
@J.F.331 Жыл бұрын
What’s even more interesting is the Greek words for ravenous wolves. The words are ἅρπαγες λύκοι (harpages lykoi). The word ἅρπαγες for ravenous is the same exact word used in Luke 18:11; 1 Corinthians 5:10-11; 1 Corinthians 6:10, translated as swindler. One who is rapacious, and extortioner and a robber.
@michaelwinton8866
@michaelwinton8866 Жыл бұрын
This guy ain’t even in sheep’s clothing haha he’s just a wolf in wolves clothing. Not hard to see that his teachings are false
@Parks179-h
@Parks179-h Жыл бұрын
We may be underestimating the deception of the old world false teachers.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock Жыл бұрын
Worse: Wolves in shepherd’s clothing.
@danyboon4851
@danyboon4851 Жыл бұрын
Remember the "Many will scream teacher teacher we made miracles in your name but I will say unto them go away for I do no know you?"Sorry translating in my head but yeah that's it
@beneficeofupperwensleydale1487
@beneficeofupperwensleydale1487 3 ай бұрын
Greetings from the Church of Jesus Christ in Upper Wensleydale, North Yorkshire, England. Thank you for your ministry and teaching and Biblical explanation on this issue and so many others - I am reminded of 2Tim4 - people drawn with ‘itching ears’ to hear what they want to hear rather than the Truth - May the Lord ‘enlarge your territory’ that more can understand deception when they hear it.
@stephenslater412
@stephenslater412 11 ай бұрын
People who define themselves by their sin have reached the threshold of blasphemy and have chosen to reject salvation.
@laniftallon
@laniftallon 3 жыл бұрын
Satan quoted the bible to Jesus when attempting to deceive him.
@Austin-es6lx
@Austin-es6lx 3 жыл бұрын
Ofc he did. he’s had a lot of time to study it and pervert it. The devil knows more about the Bible than most believers. he actually doesn’t care if you read as long as you don’t act on the word. Know the devils tricks and devices(that doesn’t mean read the satanic Bible)
@eliargumedo4728
@eliargumedo4728 3 жыл бұрын
Your mind is Satans playground if your not careful
@showusjustice523
@showusjustice523 3 жыл бұрын
Yeap, and this Brandon guy is straight from Satan. Definitely one of his many minions.
@SymphonyZach
@SymphonyZach 3 жыл бұрын
And many people fall for those tricks today. A badly quoting bible verse can mean the death of a man.
@2ndPigeon
@2ndPigeon 3 жыл бұрын
Where did he do that? In the bible? How does that work?
@jennaphillips3217
@jennaphillips3217 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not as bothered by what Brandon believes, rather I am more bothered that he is teaching his beliefs to an entire congregation
@jhamilton1007
@jhamilton1007 3 жыл бұрын
I'm bothered because he's misrepresenting God and His Word. In doing so, he is leading people down the wrong path.
@DaveBaldwin1
@DaveBaldwin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhamilton1007 I feel that anyone who follows him down that path, was already on that path...they were just waiting for someone to follow. True believers in Christ know his voice and know this is a doctrine of devils.
@valeriemckenna4590
@valeriemckenna4590 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhamilton1007 exactly!!! The church leader is responsible for guarding the flock he’s not he’s going against scripture
@jordanlaplante1131
@jordanlaplante1131 3 жыл бұрын
The bible did warn about false teacher
@studentoflife2484
@studentoflife2484 3 жыл бұрын
so am I. how many people ACTUALLY believe what he is.teaching?
@igobydubri
@igobydubri 3 ай бұрын
“And then the serpent speaks a word of truth” and the conversation is over
@skecchi3201
@skecchi3201 7 ай бұрын
This had my jaw dropped almost immediately. I urge everyone to please pray for this individual! Please, this is scary and please please, pray for him because he's influencing people and leading a flock of people straight into hell!
@samuelbarrett5701
@samuelbarrett5701 2 жыл бұрын
Brandon: "God doesn't want you to have knowledge" Proverbs: "allow me to introduce myself"
@davidbell2547
@davidbell2547 2 жыл бұрын
Brandon doesn't want people to have knowledge
@boreragnarok4680
@boreragnarok4680 Жыл бұрын
Genesis: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@UnclePengy
@UnclePengy Жыл бұрын
@@davidbell2547 Brandon : "Pleased to meet you; hope you guessed my name."
@davidbell2547
@davidbell2547 Жыл бұрын
@@UnclePengy let's go Brandon!
@johnherlihy260
@johnherlihy260 Жыл бұрын
@@UnclePengy - 👍🏻 “But what’s puzzling you is the nature of my game.”
@madcinder257
@madcinder257 2 жыл бұрын
"Jesus was feminine." Dude, have you ever met a carpenter?
@samaritan_sys
@samaritan_sys 2 жыл бұрын
Most men of Brandon’s sexual persuasion experienced childhood abuse from father figures, and therefore tend to view emotionality and tenderness as feminine traits.
@yellowcoat970
@yellowcoat970 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@holyheathen435
@holyheathen435 2 жыл бұрын
@@samaritan_sys define feminity
@Meggsie
@Meggsie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she was very talented
@jamesparker7528
@jamesparker7528 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meggsie did you accidentally add the "s"?
@Sombody123
@Sombody123 Жыл бұрын
It's like peering into a leaky can of perishable food that has been in room temperature for months. You fully expect it to be rotten before you look and then you look at it while going "Yup, I was expecting this in the current date, and indeed it is as rotten as expected."
@asearch.for.insight1292
@asearch.for.insight1292 23 күн бұрын
My jaw hit the floor hearing him call God a liar and satan a truth teller
@williamsmiley859
@williamsmiley859 3 жыл бұрын
This is hard to wrap my head around. This kid is basically making his own religion.
@defiance1790
@defiance1790 3 жыл бұрын
This kid has a lot of sin and is rewriting scripture to justify himself. It’s not hard to build a theology around that
@feedtheworld5654
@feedtheworld5654 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, he's teaching the oldest fools gold on the planet "As Above So Below" with "Christian" attached ; people are so blinded now days, so they don't realize how much the occult has hijacked Judea/Judeo-Christianity. Seriously, everything he spews, is what they spew in the Churches of the Dark Arts; I pray for all the lost in his congregation. Not at all surprised that "Progressive" is the tag on this type of Christianity. Any true follower of Christ should understand that twisting God to please your carnal, so "self" feels all warm and fuzzy inside = idolatry of false Gods "You shall have no Gods above Me" The Father didn't stutter when he commanded this.
@blanktrigger8863
@blanktrigger8863 3 жыл бұрын
To the contrary, this has already been taught in various forms in the past. By gnosticism, post-ancient Jews, other kinds of pagans etc.
@sasha.horning
@sasha.horning 3 жыл бұрын
where is his Bible? 💔💔 psalm 1/romans 1
@blanktrigger8863
@blanktrigger8863 3 жыл бұрын
@@feedtheworld5654 Yeah, your comment was there when I posted mine, I don't think. If I saw yours I would've just liked it without commenting.
@AzariahWolf
@AzariahWolf 3 жыл бұрын
If your god is completely in agreement with you at all times, even when you change your mind, you don't have a god: you have an imaginary friend in your own image.
@scholasticbookfair.
@scholasticbookfair. 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. How small would my God be if He agreed with EVERYTHING I thought. Like get a grip man, humble yourself. It's so prideful and disgraceful.
@nyambsdeborah8954
@nyambsdeborah8954 3 жыл бұрын
@@scholasticbookfair. HONESTLYYYY!! like I don't like or want God to agree with everything I do. It's like my parents. I don't want them to be my "yes man and woman". I want them to correct me and tell me when I am wrong in LOVE and discipline. The laws and rules of God are not to hurt us, but to protect us from our own wrongdoing. Sin hurts and destroys. And like you said, HOW SMALL would our God be if he agreed and encouraged all our behaviors especially since we are wretched sinners.
@brettkirk1944
@brettkirk1944 3 жыл бұрын
Timothy Keller makes a similar point in his Reason for God book
@victoriakohler627
@victoriakohler627 3 жыл бұрын
an Idol of self
@CrypticHowl
@CrypticHowl 3 жыл бұрын
Well put!!!
@krufty47
@krufty47 5 ай бұрын
What is the point in having a religion at all if you're just going to change it to absolve yourself of any wrong-doings?
@connerdavis9884
@connerdavis9884 3 ай бұрын
What I'm recognizing from modern evangelicals or "deconstructionists" is they like to take the gospel and retrofit it to fit our "current thing" world view, effectively worshipping a social gospel over the true one
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 3 жыл бұрын
Premise 1: Brandon loves his god. Premise 2: Brandon's god thinks and feels what and only what Brandon thinks and feels. Conclusion: Brandon loves himself.
@nathanloan3334
@nathanloan3334 3 жыл бұрын
Or rather, Brandon is his own god.
@neodaltiair8624
@neodaltiair8624 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, all false theology and gospels stem from this.
@spencergsmith
@spencergsmith 3 жыл бұрын
There is a reason God made the first commandment “Thou shall have no other god before me.”
@xhotwolfx
@xhotwolfx 3 жыл бұрын
Could not have defined Brandon any better myself!!
@annalau9645
@annalau9645 3 жыл бұрын
Exactamo!
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
“Holiness” I’m going to go full Princess Bride on this one.. “You Keep using that word. I do not think it means what you thinks it means.”
@aworobetz1
@aworobetz1 3 жыл бұрын
“Full Princess Bride” 😂 YES!
@christopherdukett4158
@christopherdukett4158 3 жыл бұрын
This nonsense is truly inconceivable
@christopherdukett4158
@christopherdukett4158 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody want a peanut?
@shooterdownunder
@shooterdownunder 3 жыл бұрын
Justin Peters even uses that quote. The Princess bride quote of course.
@SavannahSedai
@SavannahSedai 3 жыл бұрын
Good movie. Good quote for this video 👍🏼
@Kameraspie
@Kameraspie 3 ай бұрын
He calls it tree of knowledge but its actually the tree of knowledge of good and evil
@Anabee3
@Anabee3 5 ай бұрын
Watching this again 2-29-24. What an important corrective teaching from Pstr Winger. What a blessing he is! Further proof that I.Q. is not necc'rly synonymous with WISDOM.
@legacyfarmmarket
@legacyfarmmarket 3 жыл бұрын
He literally said, "The serpent tells the truth." Brandon is speaking favorably on behalf of the father of lies.
@nyambsdeborah8954
@nyambsdeborah8954 3 жыл бұрын
Eh. Well technically, the devil gives HALVE truths. The issue I had with this guy is that he didn't say that the serpent gave HALVE truths, he just said truths. At the end of the day the serpent used halve truths and lied to decieve. While on the flip side saying GOD lied??
@Juicedude502
@Juicedude502 3 жыл бұрын
@@nyambsdeborah8954 a half truth is a whole lie tho
@lizicadumitru9683
@lizicadumitru9683 3 жыл бұрын
@@Juicedude502 It's worse than a blatant lie and it's an intelligent way to hook people. That's why it's used.
@smash0005
@smash0005 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a Luciferian
@PeeboTyson
@PeeboTyson 3 жыл бұрын
@A Girl Named Billie The point of a "half truth" is that if you mix a bit of truth in your lie, it's easier to fool people. This is a time tested method used by con men and propagandists. Still a lie, of course, but the point is thayt it can be more dangerous then a total lie in that more people may be fooled by it..
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time evil doesn't run up to you shouting, "I'm evil! Look at me!" It presents itself subtly and tries to convince you that it's actually good.
@jeremiahhecita1027
@jeremiahhecita1027 3 жыл бұрын
Lie needs to look as close as the truth
@MikeMcG58
@MikeMcG58 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, subtly, just Genesis 3 describes the serpent.
@anthonygelbert3818
@anthonygelbert3818 3 жыл бұрын
True. Lucifer uses the carrot more often than the stick.
@mrcombustiblelemon2902
@mrcombustiblelemon2902 3 жыл бұрын
That evil's name? Jesus Christ.
@MikeMcG58
@MikeMcG58 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 so are you saying that evil’s name is Jesus Christ, or did I misunderstand something?
@user-jo5vz5iy9d
@user-jo5vz5iy9d 2 ай бұрын
I know I’m late to the party (3years lol) but I just came across this video, & I noticed that he literally admitted that God gave us an abundance! A whole garden, minus 1 tree. & satan came to twist God’s words for Eve to focus on LACK!
@hei5770
@hei5770 3 ай бұрын
May God bless and keep you Mike❣️ Your work is SO IMPORTANT. THANK GOD AND THANK YOU
@amarleborgne9073
@amarleborgne9073 Жыл бұрын
“Christian terms but un-Christian teachings.” Thank you for this exposing what is evil.
@OnTheThirdDay
@OnTheThirdDay Жыл бұрын
It is modern day gnosticism. Saint Iraneus, disciple of polycarp, disciple of St. John, criticized gnosticism by saying that it is like having a mosaic of the emperor but someone takes apart the pieces and assembles it into an image of a fox then says "this is the emperor". He wrote a huge book on gnosticism: Against Heresies I recommend looking into it if you are interested. (There are short videos on YT summarizing the contents of the book.) There are so many parallels between gnosticism and this modern day heresy that it is surprising but also not.
@themainmanborah
@themainmanborah Жыл бұрын
@@OnTheThirdDay Thank you!! This is precisely what I tell people is happening. Progressive "Christianity" is the rise of Gnosticism in the Modern World.
@priscilabarros4960
@priscilabarros4960 Жыл бұрын
He is coping what satan did tempting Jesus in the desert. The devil using the scriptures to try to deceive is not a new thing! 😞
@lovinghim2160
@lovinghim2160 Жыл бұрын
i feel this is the Truest form of the Antichrist
@d.sander6228
@d.sander6228 Жыл бұрын
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@korilemay7877
@korilemay7877 2 жыл бұрын
“And then the serpent speaks a word of truth” - this is so vehemently demonic. Please, brothers and sisters, let’s PRAY for those he’s leading astray
@holstonmatt
@holstonmatt 2 жыл бұрын
at least brandon not a homophobe like a lot of crhristians are i am sorry but being gay not a sin and if it is it just god hating people for no good reason i mean i like men so what it not hurting anyone
@korilemay7877
@korilemay7877 2 жыл бұрын
@@holstonmatt being in a romantic homosexual relationship is a sin. It is very clear in the Bible. Jesus asks us to sacrifice things for Him. Brandan is leading people straight to hell, and if you follow him, well…. There’s a good chance you’re headed there, too. Some things that make us happy are not what God has designed for us. Repent, and follow Christ as He actually is. Not the “Jesus” that Brandan preaches.
@johnlewis8934
@johnlewis8934 2 жыл бұрын
@@korilemay7877 Amen I don’t think I could of said it any better. Brandan really has scripture mixed up because we are not supposed to follow our hearts desire’s, but God’s. That is where true life comes from, from God.
@holstonmatt
@holstonmatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@korilemay7877 you mean the same book that justify slavary i mean look up exodus 21 and oh yeah that part of the bible was talking about p3dos not the lgbt
@holstonmatt
@holstonmatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@korilemay7877 i mean you all say you are the non judgemental tpye and then you justify homophobia, transphobia with the bible you guys are really hypocritical
@shelleythomas1046
@shelleythomas1046 9 ай бұрын
Let us pray that young people especially and older people (that do not know the Bible) are protected from this man. Not sure but I have this strong feeling that he went into the pastoral work to turn others away from the truth.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! Brandon is very sus, the things that comes out of his mouth are obvious lies!
@timmills9727
@timmills9727 8 ай бұрын
We live in a culture that wants to be validated, not held accountable...
@kahundumatengu3543
@kahundumatengu3543 3 жыл бұрын
When I hear Brandon preach, all I hear is "did God really say..."
@ezassegai4793
@ezassegai4793 3 жыл бұрын
perfect summary
@stevew2996
@stevew2996 3 жыл бұрын
It's very strange that Brandon is saying the same thing as the serpent and he doesn't realize it....Or does he?
@ezassegai4793
@ezassegai4793 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevew2996 I am sure he knows
@kariking3539
@kariking3539 3 жыл бұрын
And your question is the reason that we desperately need to study the Bible and Know what it says. Satan comes as an Angel of light...he also is as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.
@stevew2996
@stevew2996 3 жыл бұрын
@@kariking3539 The question was rhetorical. It is blatantly obvious that this is from satan. This so called sermon wasn't even close to being as an Angel of light. Yes people need to study the Bible. You don't have to study the Bible for years and be a scholar to know this guy is way off.
@chrischandler9909
@chrischandler9909 3 жыл бұрын
Brandan literally uses the same semantic argument the serpent uses in the garden. That should be a red flag
@naklovesjesus3204
@naklovesjesus3204 3 жыл бұрын
Red Flag🚩 Dude literally said the serpent was truthful, and God was the liar.....I almost went crazy then 😡
@darkma1ice
@darkma1ice 3 жыл бұрын
@@naklovesjesus3204 satan is the deceiver, he definitely DOES tell the truth, PARTIALLY. Good deception only works if there’s partial truths scattered in it
@naklovesjesus3204
@naklovesjesus3204 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkma1ice Very true
@Nancie6290
@Nancie6290 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ethanmoon3925
@ethanmoon3925 3 жыл бұрын
"Weird" how Adam and Eve didn't thank the serpent, they had such a negative reaction to "enlightenment". And I'm sure the fact that their kids literally killed each other had nothing to do with "the KNOWLEDGE of EVIL".
@Ruby-wise
@Ruby-wise 2 ай бұрын
TY MW..for a straightforward approach to this subject. It’s refreshing to hear truth..about disagreeing about this subject.,,while honoring the person with whom we differ.
@pinkpaige477
@pinkpaige477 2 ай бұрын
We need to pray for everyone including our friends, family and enemies for their salvation. All for the glory of God!
@getthegoons
@getthegoons 2 жыл бұрын
So literally the first thing this guy says is "Maybe Satan was right", I don't understand how anyone who knows anything about Christianity would sit past that.
@probrickgamer
@probrickgamer Жыл бұрын
Satan is not God. Satan can be right about some stuff and wrong about other stuff. He can also have a mix of lies and truth he is saying.
@randomanun4278
@randomanun4278 Жыл бұрын
@@probrickgamer think in terms of double speak... would adam and even immideatly die on the spot? no because they didnt but did they die yes... absolutely they did its just satanic double speak they absolutely mean something different than what you are used to the word being used for. its how they twist words and meanings to lie.
@ds90seph
@ds90seph Жыл бұрын
@Wylted Correct, but he's stating and phrasing it as if this is in direct contrast with the word of God. Or as if the general opinions of Satan hold weight even in the face of God and his teachings/works.That's inherently manipulative, and a strangely bold tactic. What was Satan right about exactly? Was it everything or simply one idea? Simply the fruit of the tree? It's a strange way of attempting to equate the two figures when in truth it's apples to oranges.
@ds90seph
@ds90seph Жыл бұрын
@Wylted Just to clarify, I was posing those questions to and discussing the language of this "Brandon" guy. I agree with your statement. He's not God and I believe he, like us, can speak in a combination of truth and falsity.
@switzerlandful
@switzerlandful Жыл бұрын
At 4:59 he lies by omission. He said it was "the tree of knowledge" (making it sound innocent) when we all know it was "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil".
@Shawn-363
@Shawn-363 3 жыл бұрын
Peter warned us about this! “But false prophets also appeared among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their indecent behavior, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.” ‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-3‬ ‭
@charmainelee5085
@charmainelee5085 3 жыл бұрын
yep was just reading this epistle, and it's a sobering reminder. God is good!
@photonz1812
@photonz1812 3 жыл бұрын
Galatians 1:6-10: I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
@abtm798
@abtm798 3 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏽
@sallyannhines7193
@sallyannhines7193 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God forgive this false teacher and bring him to his right mind
@christywright3430
@christywright3430 3 жыл бұрын
OP, you are correct. And Jesus told us over and over..."Be not deceived".
@Praying4UinPA
@Praying4UinPA Жыл бұрын
We must pray for Brandon and those he’s leading astray. Speak the truth but speak it with humility and love… that’s the way of Christ! 🙏🏼
@crazyman4985
@crazyman4985 Ай бұрын
Hi Mike, tell me if im wrong but I feel when God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil was pretty much maintaining the free will of his creation say opposed to the angels who already had the knowledge of good and evil imbedded in them. Well 1/3 of the angels fell with this knowledge of good and evil because the enemy wanted to be higher than the Most High. But 2/3rds stayed. God didn't make robots and free will was necessary for love/trust etc. So I feel he gave humans a more free will option instead of the knowledge already imbued in them like the angels. Is this an incorrect theory? I am curious on this.
@bugen5
@bugen5 Жыл бұрын
"Those who are teachers in the church will be judged by Me with greater strictness" James 3:1
@iampanashejoy
@iampanashejoy Жыл бұрын
Oh man. I pray he remembers this.
@Stephanie-ft9pv
@Stephanie-ft9pv Жыл бұрын
Very much the truth
@natalyd9674
@natalyd9674 Жыл бұрын
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil". Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves". Matthew 23:15 (Said by the Lord Jesus.) "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea". Mark 9:42 (Also, said by the Lord Jesus) We can go on and on and on and on, but those were the passages that stood out for me when listening to this apostate.
@MoonHutMusic
@MoonHutMusic 8 ай бұрын
Yep including Mike Wigner.. who is teaching heresy against what God actually said to do and what His WILL is … He’s taking you all to hell with him because he doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ and what he did for him or anyone else. Believe in Jesus Christ alone .. no ifs or buts.. Teachers especially will be judged harshly for misleading the masses.
@Penguinzero1
@Penguinzero1 6 ай бұрын
@@MoonHutMusicyou’re wrong
@Sinslikescarlet100
@Sinslikescarlet100 3 жыл бұрын
This man just said.., “the Serpent tells the truth”. that’s all I need to here.
@GApeech08
@GApeech08 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, excuse me, coming through, get out of the way, please! I GOTS TO GO!
@alexismena6812
@alexismena6812 3 жыл бұрын
I’d argue a half truth. The serpent said some truthful things followed by lies. “Your eyes will be opened...” which did happen just not like they thought. “...and you will be like God” utter lie. This is why he’s a deceiver. They say the best lies are ones that have some truth to them. And Brandon here is doing the exact same thing. And whether he’s been deceived or knows he’s being deceiving doesn’t matter (eh, somewhat) because the harm is still being done. It’s infuriating and just causes more confusion.
@jan_777
@jan_777 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexismena6812 Since he's a child of this world, and not of God, he must reason like the ruler of this fallen world (aka Satan). Someone who has been deceived, can only deceive others, whether it be conscious or unconscious.
@lawvere
@lawvere 3 жыл бұрын
Then he followed it up with "God lied". His logic is nuts.
@jonathanz.9675
@jonathanz.9675 3 жыл бұрын
*hear
@Anthony_Stewart76
@Anthony_Stewart76 10 ай бұрын
“If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” 1 John 1:8
@FreedomBeaconMinistries
@FreedomBeaconMinistries Ай бұрын
Thank you for confirming what I thought I was seeing as I have been researching NAR and the Progressive Social Gospel in recent months, which is that there is, indeed, a definite link between what appears at first glance to be diversely different theologies. You clarified for me that there is, indeed, a link and that is the same old Gnosticism/little gods theology which was promoted in Genesis 3 and which the Apostles Paul and John tenaciously combatted. Evidently, this minister of Satan sees the embrace of queer theory as a form of enlightenment that supercedes what God has stated in His Word, just like Satan promoted in Eden. On another note: when you mentioned sack cloth and ashes, my mind immediately went to the Nineveh and Jonah account, so I was glad when you brought that into the discussion, because that account definitively portrays the biblical definition of repentance.
@ryanzondervan7780
@ryanzondervan7780 3 жыл бұрын
I spent nearly a decade living as an openly gay man, eventually ending up in the heart of the Castro in San Francisco. Almost 20 years ago exactly I went to my first service at the Metropolitan Community Church in SF; it was comforting in a way, but the longer I was there the more hungry I became for one thing - truth. I was being pursued by the “hounds of heaven “ as my friends would later say - a front page article in the SF Chronicle would eventually lead me to a true Bible preaching church in the Mission district, and in January of 2004 I finally stopped running and let Jesus find me. I pray the men and women listening to this man’s teaching will find themselves hungry for the same truth and pursued by the same God who so relentlessly pursued me.
@ramoth777
@ramoth777 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Zondervan, thanks for your post. Francis Thompson's poem is the inspiration for that term. The late and great Dr. D. James Kennedy preached an awesome sermon on it about 20 years ago.
@ryanzondervan7780
@ryanzondervan7780 3 жыл бұрын
@@floopdyfloop103 I didn't think much of it when I was; been married for 11+ years now so it's N/A
@jimboslice149
@jimboslice149 3 жыл бұрын
@@floopdyfloop103 God changes your affections. jackie hill-perry was a lesbian who is now married to a man. she is not bisexual, her affections and desire for women were changed after coming to the Lord.
@jimboslice149
@jimboslice149 3 жыл бұрын
@@floopdyfloop103 so your situation or experience is the definitive experience? your life/experience is what determines what is true?
@jimboslice149
@jimboslice149 3 жыл бұрын
@@floopdyfloop103 i'm sorry you are still in bondage to sin. i don't know what it's like, but like i said that type of bondage is one of the hardest bc God says it is sinning against your own flesh. and if you would like, we could talk about it more. but i'm sorry just because you feel a certain way or because it's different for you doesn't mean you are god and get to say what is true and what isn't. there are people who have LITERALLY changed. who are you to say that it isn't real? i would recommend you look up jackie perry hill and other testimonies. i have a masters degree in biblical counseling as well, although i would inevitably have you speak with a male counselor, i can start talking with you if you would like. just going through the Scriptures to see what it says, not any sort of licensed counseling.
@littlerascaleventing
@littlerascaleventing 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only 45 seconds in and already... Oh this is so cringeworthy. And so blasphemous.
@afkcnd2395
@afkcnd2395 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't Christian, it's a wolf.
@itsMe-ey2lv
@itsMe-ey2lv 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@littlerascaleventing
@littlerascaleventing 3 жыл бұрын
@@afkcnd2395 Agreed
@afkcnd2395
@afkcnd2395 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsMe-ey2lv How can people be that blind. That's absurd.
@deliaadams5
@deliaadams5 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@shevrianobillet
@shevrianobillet Жыл бұрын
Context is Key 🔑 ‼️
@kehaulani1467
@kehaulani1467 Ай бұрын
Mike, your content is meat for the mature. Thank you for addressing the comments involving petty issues, and redirecting commenters to substantive material.
@abigailallen5567
@abigailallen5567 Жыл бұрын
I'm stunned. He literally says: "And then the serpent speaks a word of truth." Those words just came out of his mouth so freely. This man should be trembling right now. Hebrews 10:31: "It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
@Thebigem
@Thebigem Жыл бұрын
I don’t even like that Phrase entering my Mind
@abigailallen5567
@abigailallen5567 Жыл бұрын
@@Thebigem Exactly! That's how horrifying it is.
@bitrudder3792
@bitrudder3792 Жыл бұрын
technically, the best lies always have some truth in them. It’s too bad Brandon doesn’t understand or want to talk about that distinction. No, Adam and Eve didn’t die immediately… They got to watch the destruction of their family though when Sin entered their world and one of their sons killed the other. And they died later after getting to watch an awful lot of sad things happen. And God doesn’t say that he denies knowledge to Adam and Eve, he just prohibits them from getting it through eating the fruit. After all, God is walking and talking with them every day before this all happens. It’s not like they’re going to have these conversations with God, daily, for eternity and never learn anything. The temptation was about being like God, which is what Lucifer/Satan wanted for himself. Half truth. Truth mixed with a lie or two or three or four.
@Greyz174
@Greyz174 Жыл бұрын
@@bitrudder3792 "They got to watch the destruction of their family though when Sin entered their world and one of their sons killed the other." the text doesnt say that this was an experience that showed them how bad sin and death was. they just had another kid. if we can infer features of the whole backstory that aren't said in the text, then Brandan can come up with his own backstory about what this all meant and the grand narrative too, no?
@bitrudder3792
@bitrudder3792 Жыл бұрын
@@Greyz174 - we’ve had a few millennia to observe the consequences and Adam and Eve were probably more shocked by death than anyone since. I just said that they got to see the destruction in their family, And we get to see the subsequent consequences. As for Brandon, if that is Brandon, which I don’t think it is for too many reasons to go into here, he doesn’t have the cognitive wherewithal to rub two thoughts together and come up with an idea that makes sense. Much less a few millennia.
@pandakawaiidebby890
@pandakawaiidebby890 3 жыл бұрын
There are two dangerous things we do in this generation: - Not reading the Bible - Not communicating with the Holy Spirit, who inspired the Bible.
@leegaesswitz181
@leegaesswitz181 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@jjgems5909
@jjgems5909 3 жыл бұрын
The scary thing is he does read the Bible and I’m going to assume he prays.
@pandakawaiidebby890
@pandakawaiidebby890 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjgems5909 And the reason why we need to Holy Spirit. He's the one who make everything different. Let's pray for him that he may come to his sense. He's not only hurting himself but others who believe his teaching.
@kenim
@kenim 3 жыл бұрын
@@pandakawaiidebby890 Also this is quite forgotten: WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
@Doris1888
@Doris1888 3 жыл бұрын
Except I think this guy reads the Bible and misuses it. It doesn't help to read the Bible if you are going to misuse it and that happens from many "so called" ministers.
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 8 ай бұрын
The bible is so "crystal clear" that its followers split in hundreds of confessions and even different religions that fight agaisnt each other till today.
@VoVina111
@VoVina111 6 ай бұрын
This is a false prophet, just one out of the multitudes that Jesus warned us about
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 6 ай бұрын
@@VoVina111 Brandan is one light in the darkness of american christianity.
@VoVina111
@VoVina111 6 ай бұрын
@user-hr8dx9qw4n no he's not. I agree with you that western Christianity is horrible compared to Christianity in other parts of the world but he's not a light in the darkness, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, he's twisting God's Word to deceive many
@kimberlykreiner8388
@kimberlykreiner8388 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike for this video! Let truth reign! 🕊️
@seanritterpusch5273
@seanritterpusch5273 3 жыл бұрын
The phase “maybe God lied” is just a redubbing of “did God really say?” That Satan used in the garden. I pray this man realizing whom he is really worshippping
@desnock
@desnock 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the red letters that he concentrated on ain't Satan's words. But ain't much Bible in that supports the breaking of Jesus' Commandments that the religious folks who oppose critiquing shitty dogma do - in pretending THEY know what God means (and are obtuse to the history and/or education as somehow being satanic - for fuck's sake!). There is a reason Jesus said to those who said "but did we not do these things in your name" and HE said to them (those religious zealots) - GET THE AWAY FROM ME, I NEVER KNOW YOU. He is talking ABOUT the chest-beating religious wingnut that breaks Jesus' Commandments. I'd suggest looking at the log in thine own eye. Satan's got a hold of you and you're oblivious to it. Oh wait, you only think it's valid when you haphazardly suggest OTHERS are under Satan's influence? No self-awareness?
@BadWolfSilence
@BadWolfSilence 2 жыл бұрын
@@desnock What exactly are you referring to? Can you be more specific? None of what you just said was an argument against what the OP stated, that was unrelated and vague. What do Christians believe specifically that you find hypocritical or against what the Bible says?
@desnock
@desnock 2 жыл бұрын
@@Red-jl7jj mirroring behavior is an intentional methodology. sometimes you can’t get through to people unless you talk their language. understand that might not have been apparent at first glance.
@desnock
@desnock 2 жыл бұрын
@@Red-jl7jj further, not condemning, holding them to their own stated standards and recommending critical thought, reading and adulting. NOT promoting that I am perfect NOR trying to inculcate them.
@JustAnnaGsK
@JustAnnaGsK 2 жыл бұрын
That verse that speaks to the religious zealots beating their chests also refers to persons like this pastor in moments like this, when there is misrepresentation of the words of Jesus, leading people away from everlasting life. His teachings in this video are sweet to those whose ears are afraid of a truth that may hurt, and is very dangerous to the cause of Christ... Not saying this moment will determine his salvation, but this message is wrong, and for pastors who continue to spread this message, with no repentance (or realizing their error and making amends), I do believe that passage is for them.
@cringe_papi4690
@cringe_papi4690 3 жыл бұрын
He is “preaching” literally what satanists believe and follow.
@mrsmaealtema5562
@mrsmaealtema5562 3 жыл бұрын
Right smh
@brandonrose4388
@brandonrose4388 3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking. I dnt know what they preach but it sounds like what they would say or believe.. I think of it like this. If I was the devil this is exactly what I would be preaching and would be having people preach and in the name of Jesus its the perfect plan for stealing souls
@paulbogle8161
@paulbogle8161 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like gnostic heresy 101
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ 3 жыл бұрын
"Do thou as thy willist" -Book of Satan 4:4
@devonmachado9045
@devonmachado9045 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLYYYY
@PatriotismandPrayer
@PatriotismandPrayer 3 ай бұрын
Can you guys please pray for me. My mind has been a battlefield over the past few days. I’ve been fighting blasphemous,murderous,lustful,and satanic thoughts. I know the Gospel is all I have. Please pray for me. Thanks guys
@DarthVader-il2cy
@DarthVader-il2cy 24 күн бұрын
Prayers! 🙏
@mariananortje6938
@mariananortje6938 3 ай бұрын
It's so scary listening to this man slipping down this slope straight into he'll.😢
@angelapowers7194
@angelapowers7194 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all let's lift up Voddie Baucham in prayers. His church FB page said he's recovering from a quadruple bypass surgery from last night and the next couple days are very important. Let's cover him and his family in our prayers. God bless all 🙏
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. 🙏
@sandigrace2271
@sandigrace2271 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reminder. 🌹
@angelapowers7194
@angelapowers7194 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I'd like to add this because Mike brought it up a few videos ago. The church (and maybe some not part of the church body) raised over a million dollars for his medical expenses. Not 100% but I gather he's uninsured. Needless to say they turned off donations, but praise God that he and his family (wife + 9 kids) don't have to worry about the medical expenses associated with this. Hearing about this really blessed me and I hope it does for y'all. God is so so good, all the time! 🙌🙏🙌
@kkb892
@kkb892 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa I didn’t know that wow. I’ll be praying.
@melindamercier6811
@melindamercier6811 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update!
@Shlambez
@Shlambez 3 жыл бұрын
"Jesus didn't come to tell us to repent of our sins.." Me outloud alone to myself: WHAT!?
@DivineRenegadeDeanna
@DivineRenegadeDeanna 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't. In fact he died on the cross and said it is done. He said to the adulterous woman go and sin no more. Meaning go and be without sin and he said it very easily. He came to free us from the laws that put us under sin with our own consent. But Jesus ended sin over 2,000 years ago. It's the churches who want your money who want you to believe otherwise. Because they want your money. Says right on the money In God We Trust they know that money is their God and they want it. And in order to get your money they have to do exactly what the government tells them that's how they maintain their 501c3 tax exemption.
@laylascott6096
@laylascott6096 3 жыл бұрын
@@DivineRenegadeDeanna I’m having a hard time understanding what you’re saying. Could you rephrase it? Very overtired recently born again Christian here
@TheShiningEnergy
@TheShiningEnergy 3 жыл бұрын
@@DivineRenegadeDeanna did you actually watch the video? The bible says to repent. The bible is the inspired Word of God. Therefore, We are called to repent by Jesus.
@Lieutenant_Dan
@Lieutenant_Dan 3 жыл бұрын
@@DivineRenegadeDeanna Nope. Sin still exists. That's why He told the adulterous woman to sin NO MORE. The POWER of sin does not exist anymore, if you accept Jesus sacrifice for your sins. Sin is certainly not ended. You don't have to watch the news for very long to figure that one out.
@Shlambez
@Shlambez 3 жыл бұрын
@@laylascott6096 I would encourage just to go straight to the word. Don't entertain "comment theology" . FInd a church or teacher (like Mike) that is humble in its approach and is dedicated to prayer. I would also encourages you to go to the word and read everything within its context. If you want to someone to walk through this with you I'd be happy to accompany and discuss these issues. I'm not a scholar or theologian but I've been a christian my whole life and have had many seasons of searching.
@ChristisLord7777
@ChristisLord7777 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I didnt understand progressive christianity until now. God bless you bro
@budsimpson6154
@budsimpson6154 2 ай бұрын
Well done sir. I know it takes a lot of time and effort to do these videos. Thank you.
@gabriellogi6981
@gabriellogi6981 3 жыл бұрын
I think it really shows his heart when he says that the father of lies speaks the truth. Let's pray for him and his followers
@noobartist3762
@noobartist3762 3 жыл бұрын
God's patience is amazing
@antoniosurl
@antoniosurl 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a true statement!! If I, a sinner saved by the Grace of our God and Father and Christ’s work on the cross, can be disgusted by this heresy to my core... imagine how amazing it is that the infinitely Holy God of the universe withholds His judgment even for a single second. He truly is rich in mercy and abounding in love. Jeez
@laeticialaeticia4474
@laeticialaeticia4474 3 жыл бұрын
🗣🗣🗣🗣 A M E N !!!!
@laeticialaeticia4474
@laeticialaeticia4474 3 жыл бұрын
Preach!! 🔥🔥
@allcoolnamestaken4672
@allcoolnamestaken4672 3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@joelunruh6534
@joelunruh6534 3 жыл бұрын
He was so patient with me. I hope that He likewise turns this young man away from the doctrines of demons that he's turned aside to.
@destinypaez8197
@destinypaez8197 24 күн бұрын
How can he say God is the liar and yet proclaim to be a minister of the Gospel ? …..
@Totinatorsandi
@Totinatorsandi 3 ай бұрын
I am so glad I found you! You are grounded in the Word and calling out false teachers, preachers, and prophets!
@justinhebert5155
@justinhebert5155 3 жыл бұрын
I work with a gentleman who used to be a Luciferian. He told me the central idea of Satanism is self-worship, pursuing whatever you as an individual want over and above everything else, which is exactly what this message is.
@jon6car
@jon6car 3 жыл бұрын
I've read the satanic bible written by Anton Lavey and what he told you is 100% true. It's about giving in to all your urges and living a hedonistic life.
@banditkeef3864
@banditkeef3864 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like capitalism if you ask me
@m.d.sharpe8892
@m.d.sharpe8892 3 жыл бұрын
Can be summarized as the phrase "Do as thou wilt" or do what you want
@horseman4now
@horseman4now 3 жыл бұрын
@@m.d.sharpe8892 "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the Law!"
@Jupiter__001_
@Jupiter__001_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@banditkeef3864 Well, "the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil"
@mitromney
@mitromney 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon: There is no one truth. Everyone has his own truth. Also Brandon: Trust me, I'm telling the truth, other christains are lying! Me: bruh.
@mechadoggy
@mechadoggy 3 жыл бұрын
It makes sense. This false teacher belongs to the devil. Jesus once said the following to people who belonged to the devil: “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44)
@lildms3691
@lildms3691 3 жыл бұрын
Uf you nailed his double standard
@revcanada2147
@revcanada2147 10 ай бұрын
What English Bible Translation does Brandon read from ?
@dawno9007
@dawno9007 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this Mike. I feel so sad abt what is happening. God's wrath is surely near fullness.
@johnhenry3022
@johnhenry3022 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon is so confident in his teaching that he has comments turned off in that video. He knows it will not withstand scrutiny. Pray for him and the people he is leading astray.
@dhowa862
@dhowa862 3 жыл бұрын
That shows me that he knows what the truth is. He just chooses to not listen to it.
@jojoruba675
@jojoruba675 3 жыл бұрын
Brendan’s view of the Garden of Eden is literally what Satanists teach: Satan brought knowledge and God was the bad guy. Whatever his views, they are not Christian.
@progodspeed2311
@progodspeed2311 3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY!!! Straight out of the Satanist bible
@nicolemast1955
@nicolemast1955 3 жыл бұрын
For real! Nearly fell out of my seat as soon as I heard it.
@disciplewill7696
@disciplewill7696 3 жыл бұрын
Yep what Madam Blotvaski believed and taught!
@disguisedcentennial835
@disguisedcentennial835 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a Gnostic, not Satanist
@Steve_T14
@Steve_T14 3 жыл бұрын
@Candise Carlson it’s even more simplistic than that, it’s the doctrine of do as thou wilt, people can be satanists without even believing satan is real
@danaro7563
@danaro7563 7 ай бұрын
Wow…..thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is such crazy theology. Unbelievable in how he depicts God as a liar. Shocking!
@aj225
@aj225 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike, I have mentioned on other channel comments, that we are not in a position to negotiate with Yahweh but to endeavor to follow his direction. Yeshua made the point and so have you with this presentation! I've hit the "Subscribe" button. All best wishes, AJ225
@masbucket3083
@masbucket3083 2 жыл бұрын
“the serpent speaks a work of truth” that sent shivers down my spine, it scares me that people listen to him
@Wario_B
@Wario_B 2 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@brainbomb.
@brainbomb. 2 жыл бұрын
What's really scary is that he believes it.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 2 жыл бұрын
The serpent is one of God's creations included in His Perfect Plan.
@timothynelson5992
@timothynelson5992 2 жыл бұрын
Without the choice between God and sin, we would be enslaved to God and we couldn’t truly choose to love him. The serpent is in the plan for a reason.
@brainbomb.
@brainbomb. 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothynelson5992 How do you think sin came about?
@Wedelinecasimir
@Wedelinecasimir Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely the scariest thing I have ever seen or experienced. So much so, that I don’t even want his words playing out loud in my home. I grieve for his soul.
@donna3675
@donna3675 Жыл бұрын
Literally, Satan is dividing the Church. Trying to destroy the Cornerstone. Separating the wheat from the chaff. I will NOT be moved-my soul belongs to Jesus. Period.❤
@mindlessjack3189
@mindlessjack3189 Жыл бұрын
Seriously I almost had to stop the video.
@jerm2011
@jerm2011 Жыл бұрын
All your prayers and studying of the scriptures will be tested in theological combat against this soldier of the adversary. This fight is what we are here for, brothers and sisters.
@user-eb4gw8ym5i
@user-eb4gw8ym5i Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed, it is very scary. But the Lord did warn of these things and perilous times to come. Mat.24: 15 " When ye therefore shall see, the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth let him understand.) Amen, praised God.
@BedboundME
@BedboundME Жыл бұрын
Multiple beliefs all around the world, every religion that allows free speech has shades of opinion. Queers are entitled to have a perspective on a religion outside that which is orthodoxy/ convention. It might shock you to know in the UK a lot of senior academics on religion believe genesis is story, myth , legend rather than actualLY a literal description of creation. They also believe that evolution is the way men came to be.
@austintf1182
@austintf1182 3 ай бұрын
3:45 I really respect you a lot for saying this sir, something I feel like a lot of people need to work on including myself
@savvycavvy7859
@savvycavvy7859 7 ай бұрын
Brandon’s teaching eerily remind me of Aleister Crowley’s theology(Do as though wilt shall be the whole of the law)… Basically it echoes and imitates the manner in which the devil works. Putting thoughts in peoples heads, what they’re really doing is for the betterment of everyone! You make me think of the scripture where the devil comes to tempt Jesus himself. All of the devils suggestions, are appealing to the flash!
@tagaldersibes
@tagaldersibes 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon is just reiterating the same old lie, “Did God really say?....”. Bless you Mike for so clearly exposing this!
@Thedisciplemike
@Thedisciplemike 3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@12sdmckown
@12sdmckown 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t believe that KZfaq recommended this video to me - I held off on watching it for a long time because I assumed that anything KZfaq recommended that was Christian-related was going to be something akin to Brandon’s Christianity. But I finally clicked on it and I am so so thankful there are people like you posting things about the real Jesus, the real Scripture, and I hope you continue to do so. Keep up the great work!
@samuelolayemi9474
@samuelolayemi9474 2 жыл бұрын
Tiktok*
@ameriCAN_Dude
@ameriCAN_Dude 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest it's hard listening to him twist & turn the Bible the way he does...
@alldadsunited
@alldadsunited 2 жыл бұрын
@@ameriCAN_Dude But it's necessary so we can know how the enemy is attempting to lead folks away from the truth. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
@olson_media
@olson_media 2 жыл бұрын
Some great Christian KZfaq channels that are actually Christian KZfaq channels for you to watch: Living Waters (my favorite) Wretched (my second favorite) Reformed Wiki 2.0 Wisdom International Mike Winger (obviously lol) Cross Examined And if you want some more just let me know and I'll edit this message and post it :)
@kennethneece4838
@kennethneece4838 2 жыл бұрын
@@olson_media May I suggest another very good Christian video to watch! “ David Lynn and Christ forgiveness “ are very good videos to watch!🙏
@reinoehlz
@reinoehlz 7 ай бұрын
I was a 90's teen. They called this moral relativism. There's no such thing as absolute truth--of that they were SURE.
@YahnathanThompson-rv2hr
@YahnathanThompson-rv2hr 6 ай бұрын
The only absolute truth they believe is that there are no absolute truths. That they believe absolutely.
@sammcrae8892
@sammcrae8892 7 ай бұрын
Wow... Even so, come quickly Lord! For if You delay, will truth (let alone belief) be found on earth?
@GL1TCHG4MING
@GL1TCHG4MING 3 жыл бұрын
"Progressive Christinity" is not Christianity at all.
@epa901
@epa901 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. How can people call themselves Christian - followers of Jesus - if they choose not to follow Jesus' footsteps? Doing everything God hates is not going down the road of life. We can choose God's road, or the world's road. "Progressive Christians" have chosen the latter, since human acceptance is more valuable to them than that of God. We have to pray for them to see one day.
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 3 жыл бұрын
If progressive christianity isn't christian, then it is better. Pragmatism defeats dogma.
@epa901
@epa901 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 If you believed in Jesus, you would not say that progressive Christianity (mostly ignoring His will) is a good thing. You can say it's universally good only if you're an atheist or someone who hates Jesus. It largely depends on perspective. We want to follow Him so we view this from a totally different angle.
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 3 жыл бұрын
@@epa901 Then you should question the story of Jesus. It makes more sense that the supernatural elements of the story are made up. An all powerful god wouldn't need to send someone to earth, much less allow his story to be misinterpreted.
@epa901
@epa901 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Brother, I have already found God and got answers to prayers and all kinds of things. It's too late for me keep searching for Him - thankfully so. If you want, you can pray to try to find Him. If you want God to show his existence somehow, it would be best to see it from Himself, not from a human. Think about it, what do you lose from trying? Remember that it's important to be patient and not give up. God answers in His own way, in His own time. Jesus sees value in you. I hope the best to you.
@mitchryan257
@mitchryan257 2 жыл бұрын
“God believes what I believe.” -Progressive Christians
@Wine_n_cheese
@Wine_n_cheese 9 күн бұрын
This video was 3 years ago... It's mid-2024, and even 3 years ago, they had no idea how bad it would get
@Fanta93
@Fanta93 19 күн бұрын
I had auto play on and when I started hearing this I felt my gutt twist. Can't believe people twist the word to such extreme lengths
@poik247
@poik247 3 жыл бұрын
Broooooo he straight up sides with Satan in church!!!! He swears he’s a Christian!! He’s an open Satanist!!! I’m shook!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@themadlass5584
@themadlass5584 3 жыл бұрын
Right?! I literally was thinking how clearly he was blaspheming God. I am honestly baffled that no one picked up on it. 😦
@benry007
@benry007 3 жыл бұрын
How could someone even sit through that sermon. I'd be up on my feet shouting for him to repent and stop blaspheming. If that is not his church then shame on whoever let him finish that sermon.
@charko4191
@charko4191 3 жыл бұрын
When Listened to it The first thought was he is actually spreading what satan wanted and wants people to believe. It's truly terryfying
@sachinmasih3628
@sachinmasih3628 3 жыл бұрын
isn't what is written in Revelations about False teachers?
@amybee40
@amybee40 3 жыл бұрын
@@sachinmasih3628 Jude 13 --"Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever."
@user-dd4fv6qj8g
@user-dd4fv6qj8g 3 жыл бұрын
He lost me at "The serpent speaks a word of truth."
@italicthegoat2948
@italicthegoat2948 3 жыл бұрын
Thats literally saying Satan was right!! Like what??
@chelseyt7091
@chelseyt7091 3 жыл бұрын
Right!? What a joke.. satan is the father of all lies..
@thelamb642
@thelamb642 3 жыл бұрын
He lost me at saying he don't believe in hell. That's it for me
@lilyluney6015
@lilyluney6015 3 жыл бұрын
That’s literally what satanist said
@chriskoschik391
@chriskoschik391 3 жыл бұрын
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44 I mean, how can the Bible be more clear than that? We all need to pray for this man because the lake of fire is indeed real.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 3 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos from you. I keep coming back to it even though it's pretty obvious that what Brandon is saying is wrong. I like the way you break this down.
@markroy4971
@markroy4971 2 ай бұрын
It’s like nails on a chalkboard, when you call Brandan reverend.
@johnflodeen6405
@johnflodeen6405 Жыл бұрын
What really got me was in the end of the video. He's saying open yourself up to the changing winds of spirits. He's literally telling them to open themselves up to demons. That's terrifying
@paulmuresan1252
@paulmuresan1252 3 ай бұрын
And he is doing that in the name of Jesus, how crazy is that?!
@sues3218
@sues3218 3 ай бұрын
The bible said these days would come. Tickling ears and heaping up teachers to tell you what YOU want to hear, instead of what God say's in His word. The difficult times are here.
@sues3218
@sues3218 3 ай бұрын
@@paulmuresan1252 Nothing new under the sun, this has been happening for generations. What we need to do is tell people to read all their bible themselves, for it will protect them from false teachers. People who are biblically ignorant fall for false teachers, or people who only want their ears tickled to feed the desires of their flesh. It has always been around, and the way to protect against it is the same, know and believe the word of God. Test the spirit against the word of God.
@sirianfelixbrightonesquire3247
@sirianfelixbrightonesquire3247 3 жыл бұрын
I’m proud of everyone wanting to pray for him as opposed to ripping him apart.
@timothylong3110
@timothylong3110 3 жыл бұрын
Christ saved Paul...
@bubbasantonio7563
@bubbasantonio7563 3 жыл бұрын
Then you ain’t proud of me
@RealAugustusAutumn
@RealAugustusAutumn 3 жыл бұрын
We can pray for his soul, but he is still subject to the justice of Man
@dhowa862
@dhowa862 3 жыл бұрын
This is true. I think Brandan knows the truth but he rejects it. It’s hard for me to pray for someone like this. He isn’t confused. He knows exactly what he is doing. My prayer would be for God to soften his heart.
@jackriddle4017
@jackriddle4017 3 жыл бұрын
Christ doesn't tell us to pray for the false teachers. He tells us to discern and judge the sin harshly.
@Shawndorestin
@Shawndorestin 3 ай бұрын
I will be in the fullness of God AMEN ❤❤❤
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