Miki Ando - quadruple salchow attempts

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Seresu1

Seresu1

13 жыл бұрын

New version of my video with Miki Ando's quad salchow attempts. It's twice longer, therefore includes many new quads.

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@MrsBubaloo
@MrsBubaloo 10 жыл бұрын
Several aren't fully rotated, but still really impressive. She left her mark on skating for sure.
@ReynaRetalia
@ReynaRetalia 7 жыл бұрын
This is what determination looks like
@greenpuffle
@greenpuffle 6 жыл бұрын
Practically all the quads in the 7 minute mark were all clean. You can tell they look much more confident, high and sure than her attempts in competition. It looks like she got the rhythm of the quad sal down at that era. Fantastic. Even though almost all her quads in compeition were underrotated, she was evidently able to land them. Quite the genius.
@lukeferrante497
@lukeferrante497 8 жыл бұрын
Some of them at the end are actually clean so I'm not sure why people are saying none of these are clean because some are.
@scotte8629
@scotte8629 3 жыл бұрын
when they didnt' count yes.
@Dunika
@Dunika 3 жыл бұрын
she pre-rotates quite a bit, and often her landings are under-rotated
@L_k08
@L_k08 Жыл бұрын
@@Dunika it’s almost impossible to not prerotate especially in salchow
@Dunika
@Dunika Жыл бұрын
@@L_k08 Thats why there is a rule that penalizes too much rotation, but not all rotation
@NIQ31
@NIQ31 11 жыл бұрын
Some of these jumps are so amazing. She made history, she made figure skating more intresting. I wishe she had tried them more often! Thanks, Miki!
@casperado666
@casperado666 8 жыл бұрын
thanks youtube, now I can count in Japanese up to 4
@pipertye2882
@pipertye2882 7 жыл бұрын
casperado666 Ichi ni San Shi/yon go roku nana/shichi hachi kyuu juu 一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九 十
@ezzie164
@ezzie164 9 жыл бұрын
The first and only women to ever successfully do this. Woahh her future kids will be so proud!!
@ArchivatorRUS
@ArchivatorRUS 6 жыл бұрын
Now not only one.
@gerijokub7737
@gerijokub7737 6 жыл бұрын
Archivator-RUS, who else did the quadruple jump?
@kadencel.3929
@kadencel.3929 6 жыл бұрын
Geri Jokub Alexandra Trusova of Russia she’s a junior skater
@anthonymugg3879
@anthonymugg3879 5 жыл бұрын
She will not be able to land it after puberty.
@archimedespalimpsest1697
@archimedespalimpsest1697 4 жыл бұрын
How much are you ready to bet for it?
@RrkmMr
@RrkmMr 6 жыл бұрын
7:10〜 perfect quads
@Bnizzofashizzo
@Bnizzofashizzo 9 жыл бұрын
well damn!!!! I didn't know that there were so many good attempts. bravo
@soniquecat4745
@soniquecat4745 7 жыл бұрын
Some of these falls looks so painful and nasty. Gotta admire her for trying and trying.
@GioMariatex97
@GioMariatex97 11 жыл бұрын
The ones between 7:09 and 7:32 are the best, they look quite clean!
@adellemarian3732
@adellemarian3732 6 жыл бұрын
GioMariatex97 i checked them in slow mo, they’re clean
@CleoLau0318
@CleoLau0318 8 жыл бұрын
omg your ankles are gonna hurt
@sk8ingcoach1
@sk8ingcoach1 12 жыл бұрын
The attempts in the last minute of this video are the best... Many were clean. If only she did them clean in competition
@EnzoFoove
@EnzoFoove 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely got better with time. I think the "peak" of a skater's career is sometimes much later than people think. You just have to take good care of your body and any injuries.
@Nolongerapresidentcandidate
@Nolongerapresidentcandidate 3 жыл бұрын
7:10 perfect
@francisco.nicolasnicolas5778
@francisco.nicolasnicolas5778 9 жыл бұрын
Javer Fernandez and Miki Ando make a beautiful couple
@Seresu1
@Seresu1 11 жыл бұрын
What doesn't change the fact that they are EXTREMELY difficult.
@kaskw726isjshsml7
@kaskw726isjshsml7 4 жыл бұрын
Seresu1 yess these jumps are extremely hard Bcz of the pressure on your leg and the falls can hurt and get minor injuries.....
@iosebdzamukashvili5360
@iosebdzamukashvili5360 3 жыл бұрын
She does all clean in 2007.
@taylorbreckenridge6390
@taylorbreckenridge6390 2 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing is knowing how many times she had to have fallen without giving up.
@user-uu8rm7vx6d
@user-uu8rm7vx6d 2 жыл бұрын
今、ようやく女子も4回転時代に突入、20年近く前に成功(認定)された安藤美姫は、やはり凄い! 既に3Lz−3Loを成功させていて、しかもスケート⛸️を始めて6年しか経ってないという…正に天才。 エッジエラーの判定が厳しくなるのに合わせFのエラーを矯正。 以後、試合で6種すべてのジャンプで、ただの1度もe判定がない! フリー後半5回ジャンプにも成功。チャレンジ精神も素晴らしい。なぜか日本のマスコミには当時の女子で最も難しい3−3を跳んでいることも、e判定がないことも、後半5回ジャンプは勇気あるチャレンジということもスルーされていたけど…大丈夫!スケートファン⛸️💖は、ちゃんと解って応援して📣称えてましたよ!
@user-il7dz7je8j
@user-il7dz7je8j Жыл бұрын
あのインチキなさい 体がなければ 安藤選手は もっと気楽にジャンプに挑戦して 4回転を飛び続けたかもしれませんね あの時代は 暗黒の時代でしたね フィギュアスケート連盟は その時代を作った 責任を とるべきですよね
@jorgeluis8064
@jorgeluis8064 6 жыл бұрын
the last qadruple was so fast, looks like Yuzuru Hanyu. Japanese skaters are great.
@therealightkim
@therealightkim 10 жыл бұрын
well that's more than i can do, i'm learning the single salchow
@user-cz5ny5hm4v
@user-cz5ny5hm4v 5 жыл бұрын
2007年ワールド練習時、2002年EX月の光、このあたりは回転も足りてるように見える。
@maomao1703
@maomao1703 3 жыл бұрын
アンダーローテーションやいまのクォーターの判定があればもうちょっと試合でもできたと思います
@user-il7dz7je8j
@user-il7dz7je8j 2 жыл бұрын
この時代は一人を除いては 点数を厳しく 抑えられていましたよね フィギュア暗黒時代 それがなければ安藤選手は もっと 上位に入っていましたよね
@truthdecay3438
@truthdecay3438 5 жыл бұрын
this is awesome!
@markverdad6320
@markverdad6320 10 жыл бұрын
Miki Ando is really my fave Japanese figure skater
@shuraowen
@shuraowen 11 жыл бұрын
Yes I think you are right. The attempts in the last minutes are "closer" to be admitted... I am a Miki fan but most her quad attempts were about 3 1/2 and would't be admitted anyway... even though they were "clean". Waiting for her to come back...
@jfaf89
@jfaf89 13 жыл бұрын
This is what you get if you have a beautiful air positon.
@asheeasmith
@asheeasmith 12 жыл бұрын
lets all try and b supportive of her...miki ando is trying her hardest and is the only woman taking it to the next level in competition.....she will be the one who will have changed the sport when she leaves....shes working on big things, while people like Lady Mao senshi, (WHO I LOVE TO DEATH WITH A PASSION) is still cheating triples......we should commend miki as figure skating lovers
@francisco.nicolasnicolas5778
@francisco.nicolasnicolas5778 9 жыл бұрын
Javier Fernandez's girlfriend
@Seresu1
@Seresu1 11 жыл бұрын
It IS like this NOW my dear but back then it WAS like that. Every score is given according to the rules under which the competition was held.
@karlshanabarger
@karlshanabarger 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@thangvuong9196
@thangvuong9196 8 жыл бұрын
Thank her genetics that she has such flexible knees and ankles because she was always VERY short of rotation on her quad salchow attempts, which could of caused a catastrophic injury.
@gavinwilliams8518
@gavinwilliams8518 7 жыл бұрын
what rhe fuck
@hughbrabyn-jones5805
@hughbrabyn-jones5805 11 жыл бұрын
Technically quad toe and quad sal are only 3 and a half...
@iosebdzamukashvili5360
@iosebdzamukashvili5360 3 жыл бұрын
She should have tried a 3 axel. Don't get why she didn't try it.
@nicothefae
@nicothefae 7 жыл бұрын
And here's me, still trying to land a single axel
@biborkanemeth3109
@biborkanemeth3109 5 жыл бұрын
And here's me who don't even trying to do any jumps and afraid of falling in ice I just writing an ice skating novel and I need ways to fall lol
@angelicareilly8356
@angelicareilly8356 6 жыл бұрын
In 2007 she landed many clean ones
@asiacheetah1010
@asiacheetah1010 7 жыл бұрын
has she ever fully rotate one in competition? because all I see are 3.5 on every jump
@megabix004
@megabix004 7 жыл бұрын
Some at the end are actually pretty good, the ISU accepts that she successfully did one 4S. I don't know which one though.
@rafael00084
@rafael00084 7 жыл бұрын
According to ISU, she only did one clean quadruple salchow in competition, and she did it in the 2002-2003 JGP Final, the second clip in this video. I don´t know if the judges counted it at that moment
@kaskw726isjshsml7
@kaskw726isjshsml7 4 жыл бұрын
A quad salchow can be deduced to 2.5 points!? I’m mean ATLEAST 7 points will be enough but 2.5!?
@markverdad6320
@markverdad6320 10 жыл бұрын
She is really brave, quad jumps are usually men stuff in figure skating, I wonder if there is already a figure skater who attempted and landed a quintuple jump, that seems to be impossible at all unless he or she could defy gravity
@Ojalalluevapronto
@Ojalalluevapronto 7 жыл бұрын
i guess is impossible unless they fart strongly towards the floor
@megabix004
@megabix004 7 жыл бұрын
I bet some males have attempted it in practice, but none in competition. There's some videos on KZfaq, but they all seem to be 4.5. Maybe it will happen one day, just not any time soon, just like I think women will start to attempt quads more often. Until not too long ago, men didn't do quads and now it's almost essential.
@ledisinichka4783
@ledisinichka4783 6 жыл бұрын
Scientific American :"The quad is the physical limit, To do a quint, we would have to have somebody built like a pencil, and they can't get much smaller than they already are." Still, certain skaters have the body build and skills to achieve it. But even so, many coaches don't allow skaters to attempt the quintuple due to the risks associated with falling while spinning at such high speeds and with such force. Even falling on a quadruple jump can take a serious toll on the body, In a quadruple jump, you are landing with seven times your body weight, That is a lot of force. When they fall on a jump like that, some say it feels like their intestines end up in their throat."www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-quintuple-jump-in-figure-skating-physically-possible/
@Yurito12
@Yurito12 9 ай бұрын
​​@@megabix004well women bearly started jumping triple triples just a few decades ago now they are jumping quads, soon they will learn how to jump quads more consistantly. Miki ando stuggled with the quad sal after she turned an adult but still manage to jump it towards her mid 20s
@hughbrabyn-jones5805
@hughbrabyn-jones5805 11 жыл бұрын
And the '3S=4.5'...nope. It's actually 4S
@MrsBubaloo
@MrsBubaloo 11 жыл бұрын
Most of these are a half turn short, but somewhere in there she probably got around enough.
@michaelshelley1289
@michaelshelley1289 6 жыл бұрын
we could do without the writing in the middle of the screen so that we could actually see the jumps!!
@hughbrabyn-jones5805
@hughbrabyn-jones5805 11 жыл бұрын
@Seresu1 oh alright I understand. In that case you're right ☺
@malhalsey4994
@malhalsey4994 6 жыл бұрын
I could tell several in the practices are clean/just a bit underrotated. Not sure about the competitions but Miki is still amazing anyway
@imnegan9849
@imnegan9849 6 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do they all just look like Tonya Hardings triple axle.
@danieeccc
@danieeccc 4 жыл бұрын
Sasha Trusova has entered the chat
@totesgene
@totesgene 6 жыл бұрын
Great attempts, but I didn’t see one that wasn’t under-rotated.
@alazjaw.8968
@alazjaw.8968 Жыл бұрын
then you didn’t watch the video
@kwphoto7653
@kwphoto7653 Ай бұрын
Severe pre rotation by 75 degrees, 3/4 almost 1/2.
@malhalsey4994
@malhalsey4994 6 жыл бұрын
If any of you know Alexia Paganini...I think she might get it soon :O
@jhpark2947
@jhpark2947 3 жыл бұрын
걍 봤을 땐 네바퀴인가싶었는데 0.5배속으로 보니 심지어 3바퀴밖에 안 뛴 것도 있음..ㅋㅋ흠...
@jenelleonice9174
@jenelleonice9174 11 жыл бұрын
I wonder when they will ever give deductions for two footed takeoffs. Good job Miki! I wish I was as good as Miki... =)
@user-kf6yt4mn9v
@user-kf6yt4mn9v 5 жыл бұрын
@@imsuingyou2184 A lot of current 4S jumpers are taking off on two feet or coming very, very close to it. There is nothing in the rules forbidding it.
@amberelibrennan
@amberelibrennan 12 жыл бұрын
WOW! a couple of times it looked like she landed them clean xD ou
@onereviewer4461
@onereviewer4461 6 жыл бұрын
if you fail one jump and be judged as under rotated, the point falls extraordinarily. that is why women dont challenge difficult jump lately.
@Hjalmar_an_Craite
@Hjalmar_an_Craite 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, lately there are many junior ladies attempting 3A and quads. Most of them still in the pratice, but Kihira, Trusova...
@oweneiffel3149
@oweneiffel3149 3 жыл бұрын
I thought female not allowed to do quad in SP?
@magyomagyo
@magyomagyo 4 жыл бұрын
2007年の練習は調子よさそうで7:39が一番いいね。だけど試合のは全部回転不足😢
@user-kh9ki3kq8m
@user-kh9ki3kq8m Жыл бұрын
it seems like she really got her technique down after 2006 they got way stronger
@juanxchita99rigg
@juanxchita99rigg 7 жыл бұрын
can anybody explain me why theres not to much woman who can do a quad?
@Hilfiata
@Hilfiata 7 жыл бұрын
Jen Carlyle S. Upper body strength also plays a big factor, which women naturally lack compared to men. Moreover, women tend to store fat in their hips and breasts, making it more difficult.
@tendrugimichal
@tendrugimichal 6 жыл бұрын
2 days ago a 13yo Alexandra Trusova landed a fully rotated quadruple salchow in competition
@omggirl80
@omggirl80 6 жыл бұрын
tendrugimichal yeah but would that count? Shes young, her body is not fully developed yet but i think if she keeps on practicing, maybe in the future she might be the first woman to land 4s perfectly
@agirlwithdreams15
@agirlwithdreams15 6 жыл бұрын
omggirl80 wow. it doesnt matter. women are stronger than girls, holy shit lmao. if she can do that at 13, imagine later on
@dawnbaswell1853
@dawnbaswell1853 5 жыл бұрын
Well 2 14 year old Russians have landed quad Lutz and quad toes
@TT-ee4qp
@TT-ee4qp Жыл бұрын
Without a kid's body and weight, everything changed.......
@user-jj7pb8qh4w
@user-jj7pb8qh4w 6 жыл бұрын
회전수 제대로 나오는 점프가 없구만
@asheeasmith
@asheeasmith 12 жыл бұрын
mao is a genius on blades...period.............
@womaner1004
@womaner1004 3 жыл бұрын
자꾸 정경미가 보인다....
@alexyuferov2944
@alexyuferov2944 5 жыл бұрын
Полоборота на льду
@YanTales
@YanTales 10 жыл бұрын
All of them are underrotated, but still very nice for a woman
@YanTales
@YanTales 10 жыл бұрын
Puckles100 Are you surprised by the fact that there is a physical difference between men and women on a muscular level? It's nowadays a standard form men to do Quads and 3A, while 1 or 2 women have ever attempted those. Why are you automatically assuming I'm referring to the gender in an "inequality" type of perspective? Your comment says more about you than it does about me.
@YanTales
@YanTales 10 жыл бұрын
Puckles100 Ok I'm really not in the mood to argue with a 12 year old. Go read a book or finish elementary school, or both. bye now
@YanTales
@YanTales 10 жыл бұрын
So I'm watching the Olypmics right? Even the lowest group of men ALL do triple axel RIGHT. So later I'm watching the women's short program and what do you know? ONLY ONE woman TRIES to do a triple axel AND FAILS HORRIBLY. Now shut the fuck up you dump bitch.
@emmalia3806
@emmalia3806 10 жыл бұрын
Gaming Power Puckles100 ahahah, this so so funny, tbh. Just to let you know, in 1984 Scott Hamilton won the Olympics without doing a triple axel. Mao Asada- the woman who "failed horribly", actually only fell for one triple axel in her short program. She landed one in her free skate program. Lastly, Yuzuru Hanyu, the 2014 men Olympic gold winner- fell doing a triple flip, a jump element that has base points as 5.3, while the quad salchow has base points of 10.5. JSYK, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I understand that men's legs are usually stronger than women's in figure skating. For a woman its more "standard" and conventional for a waif figure.
@YanTales
@YanTales 10 жыл бұрын
Emmalia Aradeil I was obviously trying to show an example of how men and women differ on a physical muscular level by the sheer number of rotations done. OBVIOUSLY in figure skating jumps are just a part of the whole complicated performance.
@raeymond5552
@raeymond5552 2 жыл бұрын
なぜ安藤には4回転が跳べるのか→4回転じゃないから
@piznoctsauo8141
@piznoctsauo8141 7 жыл бұрын
Sasha Cohen's 4S is quite more aesthetically pleasant.
@user-zi6rd8eh2n
@user-zi6rd8eh2n 6 жыл бұрын
Piznoc Tsauo where to watch?
@alazjaw.8968
@alazjaw.8968 Жыл бұрын
she could barely do it
@trashtm352
@trashtm352 7 жыл бұрын
a h
@cvcfoundation8413
@cvcfoundation8413 5 жыл бұрын
Wow actually made it all the way around on some unlike those Russian teens doing 3.25 revs
@ryuuji7656
@ryuuji7656 7 жыл бұрын
YURI ON ICE
@rafaworldwide
@rafaworldwide 7 жыл бұрын
Yaaass hahahaha
@caiti_4897
@caiti_4897 6 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEEEEEEES
@carat3365
@carat3365 6 жыл бұрын
kwon fire!!!
@B___T985
@B___T985 6 жыл бұрын
No, it's not. It's a figure skater.
@monosha404
@monosha404 5 жыл бұрын
This is Miki on Ice, not Yuri on Ice.
@user-ug1on2wl5e
@user-ug1on2wl5e 10 жыл бұрын
아래사람 미쳤냐
@yeahji969
@yeahji969 8 жыл бұрын
??
@hughbrabyn-jones5805
@hughbrabyn-jones5805 11 жыл бұрын
@Seresu1 definitely agree on that. Gonna sound sexist here but it's true...it's even harder for the women
@agirlwithdreams15
@agirlwithdreams15 6 жыл бұрын
Hugh Brabyn-Jones because women are told to be thin and pretty
@archimedespalimpsest1697
@archimedespalimpsest1697 4 жыл бұрын
There are important anatomic differences, regardless of what people are told. But if you really want it dearly... Anna Shcherbakova might land two 4Lz's in her free skating 2 days from now. Kamila Valieva will definitely land two 4T's (likely 4T3T with one of these) this season. Alexandra Trusova is just moving boundaries of impossible.
@archimedespalimpsest1697
@archimedespalimpsest1697 4 жыл бұрын
And indeed did Anna Shcherbakova land these 4Lz and 4Lz3T, with GoE of 3.29 and 2.96. Mesmerizing. Not a single male succeeded with the 4Lz here (at Skate America; three tried, Nathan Chen included).
@asheeasmith
@asheeasmith 12 жыл бұрын
AND....Miki Ando has a HOT fucking body
@user-wo2iw5vy2c
@user-wo2iw5vy2c 4 жыл бұрын
엥 너무 비비는거 아닌가
@jhpark2947
@jhpark2947 3 жыл бұрын
@승리 ㅇㅇ 토가 빙판에서 떨어지는 순간부터 4바퀴인데!!!! 미키가 거의 다 3바퀴만 뛰네요 ㅋㅋㅋ 0.5 바퀴를 프리로테로 인정해줘도 3.5바퀴이고 4바퀴가 안 돼요 .....
@user-gs9bp3pn9n
@user-gs9bp3pn9n 10 жыл бұрын
뭐여;; 회전수 부족이구만 일본놈은 공중에 올라지도않은거랑 반바퀴돈걸가지고 세고 앉았네;
@bestheerim
@bestheerim 11 жыл бұрын
많이 돌면뭐함 안이쁜데
@lola-qx1fu
@lola-qx1fu 9 жыл бұрын
Javier´s fake girlfriend. Why they are lying the whole time?
@12markito
@12markito 7 жыл бұрын
lola lmao 😂
@tylerchandler575
@tylerchandler575 9 жыл бұрын
1) Javier aka javie is gay. 2) I'm not a figure skater but for u gals out there trying to land a quad and to land it cleanly and to do it combo try this..(a Jill trenary cheat landing trick)..instead of landing on your real landing leg..land on the other leg..its already in position for u to land forward and then go up into a salchow jump..thus landing a quad combo jump....someone try and tell me if u get credit...laters
@user-ht3ee4ze4k
@user-ht3ee4ze4k 4 жыл бұрын
回転不足です。素人でもわかりますね。
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