Vehicle Graveyard Avdiivka Ukraine
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Күн бұрынRussian lines near Avdiivka behind the front lines the road is littered with wrecks of trucks, ATVs, jeeps, IFV, APCs and even Main Battle Tanks. In this video I cover the geolocation, what vehicles and what modifications we see and also some insights from a Ukraine Veteran.
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Original Video: t.me/russianocontext/3682
Geolocation
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern...)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAZ-452
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIL-131
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ-66
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Location & Setup
02:06 Vehicles by Appearance
03:52 Blasted BMP-2
05:47 BTR-80 with Slat Armor
07:08 T-72 Hull with Kontakt-1
08:14 T-72 or T-64
08:43 “Barbie Mobile”
09:56 BMP-1
10:06 Comparison to Ukraine
10:40 Some Numbers
11:55 Summary
#avdiivka #ukrainewar #ukrainewar #tanks #logistics
@vaclav_fejt 4 күн бұрын
This feels like a Call of Duty intro sequence.
@dmytrogolovchenko2757 5 күн бұрын
Red car converted to cabrio was not Lada Samara but ZAZ Slavuta
@malcolm5514 2 күн бұрын
What is he talking about there? Did he mean convertible? I'm not familiar with the word he used in any language I know of haha
@in_absentia 2 күн бұрын
@@malcolm5514 Cabriolet?
@BlueCollar80 2 күн бұрын
red? I thought it was pink
@locusmortis Күн бұрын
@@BlueCollar80 it looked like a Barbie car lmao
@BlueCollar80 Күн бұрын
@@locusmortis That's what I mean, I thought Ken was having a tour in Ukraine 💀
@dukenukem8381 5 күн бұрын
Correction at 8:45 is a Zaz-1103 Slavuta stolen from local civilian car. Not a Lada. Zaz is a Ukrainian car brand.
@puzzled012 2 күн бұрын
stolen? so you know all the details, the owner legitimate and not so legitimate ...
@TheeWolfiee1 2 күн бұрын
@@puzzled012well if zaz comes from Ukraine, is produced in Ukraine and is now being used by Russian soldiers it’s probably not bought legally… maybe stealing had a different meaning in barbarian Russia 🤔
@Homobikerus Күн бұрын
@@TheeWolfiee1way too many assumptions here. There's a number of totally different possible scenarios.
@maryanchabursky9148 20 сағат бұрын
@@puzzled012well maybe if ruSSian soldiers didn’t keep stealing stuff maybe people wouldn’t assume
@marocho129 5 күн бұрын
Just imagine how a soldier going to the front line through this scarp yard must feel...
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
Somewhat similarly to the French on La Voie Sacrée behind Verdun. The more things change the more they remain the same.
@dzonikg 4 күн бұрын
But they are still adwancing ,Advika has fallen 4 months ago and since then they advanced 20+ km on this road
@D64nz 4 күн бұрын
Considering that it's mostly Ukrainian equipment I'm sure it gives them confidence but also reminds them of the seriousness of their situation.
@FinePrintKR 4 күн бұрын
@D64nz those are Russian. Ukrainians operating near Avdiivka used Western armored vehicles.
@FinePrintKR 4 күн бұрын
@dzonikg yeah at this rate they'll be in Kyiv in 300 years while losing 5 million men
@jprehberger 5 күн бұрын
I bet the person who shot the video had no idea the degree to which it would be analyzed. 😄
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 күн бұрын
I also wonder what the whole story is, I mean one guy shot the video, someone edited it, someone added as soundtrack this song: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9B0jLB7mrq4aGw.html Then someone shared it on telegram. This might all the same person, it might be a different person each time.
@user-ui8jt6cx2k Күн бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized As this video is shot behind the russian frontline you can actually spin the context - those could be ukrainian vehicles. Remember, most people do not have the experience for assessing losses properly.
@LayronPK 11 сағат бұрын
@@user-ui8jt6cx2k those vans you see in the video, they called "buhanka", like a brick of bread. They are used mostly by russians, since they still produce those and have vast amounts of them. Ukraine don't use it as much because you can't acquire them in such quantities and, quite honestly, they are total garbage. You can get few from civilian market, but that's it.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 11 сағат бұрын
@@user-ui8jt6cx2k Yeah, I should have stated it explicitly that the destroyed vehicles are here likely from both sides.
@bubba842 4 сағат бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualizedbut you didn't though. You even said "Russian Road of Death", implying that they are all Russian vehicles. There is a thin line between actual journalism and propaganda. Something most journalists need to learn.
@billwit7878 3 күн бұрын
I can see just as many abandoned vehicles driving thru Detroit.
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always from you.
@Kumimono 5 күн бұрын
One does indeed wonder about the, distribution of armored vs unarmored stuff, whether a place like this might be an example of a, reverse survivor bias?
@Del_S 5 күн бұрын
Maybe. I'd bet a fair few armoured vehicles were only damaged, and got pulled back - chances are some of the wrecks might have already been down the road a few times before until their luck totally ran out. Unarmoured vehicles, well, a drone or artillery shell is way more likely to take that out entirely.
@looinrims 5 күн бұрын
Nah it’s more so purpose, civilian vehicles are something they can buy from China for the war and so they use them for behind the line duties but that doesn’t make them safe from drones and artillery Or they could’ve been used as transport or CASEVAC and got caught, something Ukraine is struggling with. Armored vehicles are of course used in the attack but must be mustered and then trundle forward to the FLOT
@littlekong7685 4 күн бұрын
@@Del_S Even grenades or machine gun ambushes will take out a civilian transport and wouldn't touch a basic armoured vehicle. Heck, even road debris can pop a tire and force the vehicle to be abandoned to be later destroyed when fighting enters the area where a track would just roll over it.
@jamesrowlands8971 4 күн бұрын
@@littlekong7685 the road debris thing is a huge issue I bet. A bit of shrapnel slashing a tire. At worst it causes issues for the track that can be fixed. But it's unlikely. But it can stop a truck completely. And now it's a sitting target for artillery or drones.
@bubba842 4 сағат бұрын
Civilians were evacuated a long time ago from these areas.
@bons7823 4 күн бұрын
a lot of wrecks but it is possible that some are ukrainien wrecks too. It was the main supply road for the ukrainien army during the fight of avdiivka
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I should have mentioned that explicitly.
@sailingkadussa5675 4 күн бұрын
No, ukrainians don’t lose vehicules...😊
@fedoresko 4 күн бұрын
For a few month active frontline stood right along this road, or more precisely along railways on the right, which form a natural cover. The road itself goes on the Russian side of this front.
@hondaegg6 4 күн бұрын
@@sailingkadussa5675🤡
@dildo196 4 күн бұрын
no western stuff so it seems though
@JohnStoddart1010 5 күн бұрын
Really interesting analysis behind the front lines.
@300guy 2 күн бұрын
Wow that BTR-80 is straight out of Mad Max, just needing a leather clad bondage guy hanging over the nose!
@jmantime 4 күн бұрын
Both Russian and Ukrainian forces have been using unarmored civilian vehicles fitted with weapons since 2014, i've also seen a ton of homemade armored vehicles converted from both old military utility vehicles like GAZ-66 or Ford / Toyota trucks.
@MM22966 5 күн бұрын
That Samara car at the start...Isn't that the same general kind of cutdown 80's war wagon Corporal Reese was in, in the first Terminator film? You know, the one getting chased by the H-K drone??? How oddly prophetic James Cameron was.
@obsidianjane4413 4 күн бұрын
I thought the whole video was very post apocalyptic...
@DimoB8 3 сағат бұрын
Well one was cobbled together by a desperate army in a bombed out post apocalyptic hellscape and the other vehicle is in the terminator universe
@QALibrary 5 күн бұрын
This was very interesting - thank you for the share and especially the time you put into it
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@QALibrary 5 күн бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized it was very educational
@schlangen7889 5 күн бұрын
Total equipment - 58. 16 goose vehicles and 42 wheeled vehicles Wheeled vehicles: UAZ 452 ''Buhanka' (different versions) - 18 Desertcross 1000-3 - 4 GAZ-66 'Shishiga' - 3 BTR - 3 UAZ 469 'UAZik' - 2 VAZ 2107 'Lada' - 1 VAZ 2131 'Lada' - 1 ZIL 131 - 1 KamAZ-6350 with armored cab -1 Twisted equipment beyond recognition - 7 Hard to distinguish car make - 1 Of these, only 4 wheeled vehicles (KAMAZ with an armored cab and an armored personnel carrier) can be considered 100% military; everything else has military and civilian versions. Only VAZ 2107, VAZ 2131 and one more car that is not an established brand, these are only purely civilian cars. And guessing whether it’s military or not is nonsense. The equipment that the military uses becomes military by default. The equipment could have been issued by the army or the soldiers themselves bought it on the civilian market. Volunteers could have given it to them, or they found it abandoned in some garage and repaired it. Tracked vehicles: BMP - 8 MT-LB - 5 Tank - 3
@dukenukem8381 5 күн бұрын
"Found" a Zaz 1103 with Ukrainian plates and most likely unlived owners.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
Thanks. How many of these vehicles are exclusively Russian and how many exclusively Ukrainian and how many are used (excluding captures) by both sides?. I'm curious how Oryx treats the ones shown here.
@fedoresko 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 all of these are soviet vehicles used by both sides, except T-64 (if it is not T-72) which is used by Ukraine only and Desertcross 1000 which are more likely used by Russia.
@schlangen7889 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 Everything is mixed here, Ukrainian and Russian equipment. This technique is used by both sides of the conflict. There are exceptions, but this is just that, an exception against the general background. Exception: Desertcross 1000-3 KamAZ-6350 with armored cab And two armored personnel carriers, BTR-82A and BTR-80 with an additional set of armor (factory production) Everything else can be Russian, or maybe Ukrainian. Oryx presents itself as an objective source. But for some reason, they underestimate Ukrainian losses and exceed Russian ones. One destroyed tank but photographed on different days and from different angles is considered different by them. All T-72s are by default assigned to the Russian side, but the Ukrainian army also has T-72s in service. Also, the Ukrainian army captured T-72B3s in decent numbers during the Kharkov operation, but Oryx doesn’t care about that.
@schlangen7889 4 күн бұрын
@@fedoresko T-64s were used by the LDPR militia. But when the LDPR militias joined the Russian Armed Forces, they stopped using the T-64
@kirotheavenger60 5 күн бұрын
I'm not sure how common vehicle recovery is - it certainly seems that 'finishing off' disabled vehicles is very common practice. I'm sure part of the reason none of the vehicles are salvagable is indeed that all salvageable vehicles had been recovered, but I don't think there would have been many vehicles recovered either.
@T.efpunkt 5 күн бұрын
It's save to assume that both sides try to roger all abandoned vehicles with drones to prevent recovery.
@plushie946 5 күн бұрын
Numbers are impossible to determine but there's a lot of evidence that recovery has been of critical importance to both sides. Russia appears to have several factories/workshops primarily dedicated to refurbishing, repairing and upgrading recovered vehicles. On the Ukrainian side I've seen some footage of recovery actually being done. While "finishing off" is good practice in theory, in reality it is significantly better for 2 attacks to be focused on two different vehicles, rather than a repeat attack on one. Making a vehicle combat ineffective is of far higher importance than catastrophic kills. Recovery is part of logistics and requires manpower and fuel, and destroyed vehicles attract more destroyed vehicles. That said most recovery operations are being done very far behind the front, due to drones and artillery. Ukraine has one several occasions targeted locations with many destroyed vehicles again, knowing a lot of logistics will be running through that route. I'm sure Russia does the same though I haven't personally seen footage of it, due to the differences in outlets posting Ukrainian vs. Russian footage.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
@@plushie946 Crews or engineers often blow up disabled vehicles if they anticipate that the area may fall under control of the enemy. Provision is made ahead of time to do this. No drones required nor is it desirable to use one up on such a task if simple explosives will do the job. A lack of disabled vehicles means merely that the area has been scoured for repairable ones and probably has not been contested for some time.. Question of interest to me: How many of these vehicles could have been Ukrainian and how were they entered into the Oryx database?
@jintsuubest9331 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 I thought oryx stop updating? But anyway, I believed oryx has their methodology published.
@obsidianjane4413 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 That is not evident in the Russian army in Ukraine. I think you are projecting Western SOP and expectations on Russian forces. They often leave disabled vehicles with no sign of intent of either demo or recovery. When they breakdown or get hit, the crew just bails. There might eventually be an attempt at recovery, but in many cases this is very slow given the poor state of Russian logistics. That is why you see so many "finishing off" videos from the Ukrainians.
@seanp9277 4 күн бұрын
In addition to being a route of advance for the Russian army, that road was also the Ukrainian army's main supply and reinforcement route during the battle of Avdiivka. It was also one of the main retreat routes for them.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
So, how many of these vehicles (and bodies) are Ukrainian? How are they recorded in the Oryx database and why?
@dzonikg 4 күн бұрын
Actually Ukrainian's did not widwor try this road but to the west ,most Ukrainans loses were in Berdicki which is 3 km west from this road
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
@@dzonikgThx. "widwor try" = "withdraw via", I presume.
@D64nz 4 күн бұрын
The Ukrainians were using this road to resupply and reinforce for many months even while Russia had it until full fire control. Anything that moved was subject to immediate artillery and drone strikes yet the Ukrainians kept trying well past the point they should have pulled out, and we see the results of that decision here.
@scatterlite2266 4 күн бұрын
@@D64nz do we? There is no uniquely Ukrainian vehicle in this vid. Only that second tank is likely an ukrainian T-64. The rest is a pretty typical mix of russian vehicles, specially all the golf carts.
@TrzeciaWspolnota 5 күн бұрын
Thank you. Great content, so enligting and also presented with such a talent.
@birdmonster4586 4 күн бұрын
I suspect the device mounted on the front of the driving vehicle is a short range Jammer. It seems to be missing, or otherwise not equipped with at least one Antenna on the left since what looks like a antenna mount and the very large radiator is quite reminiscent of the old THOR II Backpacks from Afghanistan. Obviously these things can put out a lot of heat, especially if they are just trying to jam as many frequencies as possible. So some backpack Jammers run with a few fans not to dissimilar to the Fans on a PC. This isn't uncommon, There are some images of MT-LBs and other Russian vehicles with backpack Jammers mounted on them for ad hoc drone protection.
@craigtheng 4 күн бұрын
Wasn't this exact road the "Road of Life" that was supplying most of Avdiivka once Russia started trying to really take it?
@T.efpunkt 4 күн бұрын
@@craigtheng no, that road was further south and went west - east, not north - south.
@mikusoxlongius 2 күн бұрын
Hard to differentiate between Russian and Ukrainian wrecks.
@T.efpunkt 2 күн бұрын
@@mikusoxlongius you can use deepstates to look at this very section of the front, going back in time. Unlikely that there are ukrainian vehicles on that road.
@EsotericBachaBazism Күн бұрын
@@mikusoxlongius Ukraine didn't use soviet vehicles in Avdiivka, nor do they have them in great quantities
@tasoszonios5021 Күн бұрын
@@EsotericBachaBazism stop spaming lies ukraine uses more soviet vehicles than nato counterparts they just like to frame the wrecks as russian
@AlexRoivas Күн бұрын
The start of the video is literally Mad Max
@thrashes6208 5 күн бұрын
Im interested in the trees. Is this just what the trees of the areas look like? They look extremely weird as if the top was shot off but nothing was on fire??? Removed for visibillity?
@Kumimono 5 күн бұрын
Airburst, shrapnel?
@caracallaavg 5 күн бұрын
Damaged by fire and shrapnel back in autumn-winter
@looinrims 5 күн бұрын
Combat casualties, something that eco activists forget
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 күн бұрын
Good question! I asked, treetop gets easily "killed" by artillery. Similarly, leaves and then branches. It takes quite some time to regrow and what we see is the damage that has accumulated over time.
@HandleMyBallsYouTube 5 күн бұрын
So, I believe what's happened here is just straight up damage, the tops of the trees haven't been cut, if you look closely the entire trees have been mangled, probably in the winter / last summer, and the green you're seeing is new growth.
@VisciousPhishes 5 күн бұрын
awesome video, thanks.
@mrman5517 4 күн бұрын
outstanding work!
@kawaiiarchive357 5 күн бұрын
I could build a car port and a shed with all the cope cages lying around.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
No, you couldn't. Probably a tent or two, if you had the canvas. You just think you are saying something clever because you are stuck in the era when cope cages were being derided by Russian opponents. That's before when, e.g., all the US Abrams were withdrawn from front line duty until cope cages etc. could be added to them. Turned out that the cope cages were an example of the Russians being cleverer than the Ukes, but the latter caught on and you still haven't.
@GeloLego99 4 күн бұрын
they called it a cope cage, now every army in the world has them lmao
@sjonnieplayfull5859 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 the Americans have not caught on yet because they are not at war, no matter how many times Russians claim they are at war with 'all of NATO '
@therovingrobin5938 2 күн бұрын
@@sjonnieplayfull5859the US just guided cluster.munition missiles onto a beach full of tourists in Crimea...as for the US military not catching on: the US are a dead paper weight tiger...
@nvelsen1975 5 күн бұрын
3:52 Petition for a university to make MHV an honourary emeritus prof Soviet Vanologist. 😆
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
Is that sentence supposed to be in English?
@push3kpro 5 күн бұрын
That Samara made me.
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
@@push3kpro the LadaCamino with the rug wasn't half bad either.
@push3kpro 5 күн бұрын
@@marcusott2973 "LadaCamino" lol
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
@push3kpro the Samara with the C pillar left like a rollover hoop/ spoiler, in pink =Barbie Beachbuggy from the 80's.
@dmytrogolovchenko2757 5 күн бұрын
That is not a Lada Samara, but ZAZ Slavuta
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
@@dmytrogolovchenko2757 thx for the clarification,
@T.efpunkt 5 күн бұрын
That's a grim video.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
War is a grim business.
@torenico 4 күн бұрын
To think that a large portion of them had people inside when they were destroyed...
@Pilvenuga 4 күн бұрын
@@torenico dont cook beans in a closed can
@islandwills2778 4 күн бұрын
The scap metal recyclers are going to have a field day when this war is over lol
@dhxl 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video! Maybe this will help on how to pronounce Avdiїvka First letter is read as A in *father* [ä]. *di* letters are read as *dee.* Probably the same as you say *bee,* [ē] but with *d* Then the second *i,* which I wrote as *ї* on purpose. It is read the same way is *i* in *naive* [na·ive or na·ïve (nī-ēv′, nä-)]. It's a soft variant of *ee.* Since you've specified that your channel is from Austria, I suppose that you speak German as well. So, let's take a look at German *yes* (Ja). Try to replace *a* in *ja* with *ē* sound (from the word *bee* above) and say *jē.* The last *a* is the same as the first one. Thus the full word is read as äv-dee-ї-vkä with stress (accent) on *ee* Hope this will help to pronounce the name of the settlement and avoid all those comments about Advitka pronunciation.
@baryonyxwalkeri3957 4 күн бұрын
Would have been interesting to have an assessment how much of that destroyed material is ukrainian and russian respectively. I understand since much of the equipment between the two parties is very similar it would often be hard to say for sure. But still, it would have been interesting to know.
@gorbalsboy 5 күн бұрын
It looks like they were dragged off the road ,didn't notice any craters from mortar or artillery indirect fire?anyone else see evidence for indirect fire?I can only guess that when he went off road it was because the tarmac road was damaged (possibly)
@ForelliBoy 4 күн бұрын
mad maxim: fyodor road
@zhufortheimpaler4041 4 күн бұрын
*Vodka Road
@JH-lo9ut 4 сағат бұрын
9:14 That rug really tied that wrecked car together.
@eric-wb7gj 5 күн бұрын
TY 🙏🙏
@bCKization 5 күн бұрын
More analysis of regular war videos please
@theborg6024 3 күн бұрын
man that foliage damage is insane. i dont even want to think about how much ordinance was dropped on that road to shred that many trees that thoroughly. also that btr at 11:39 and earlier in the video feels very misshapen to me, i know you theorized it was add on armor causing it but i wonder if its some kind of specialist hull or something
@W1se0ldg33zer 4 күн бұрын
I would speculate that the majority of these were Ukrainian as most of them look like they were facing in the direction of Avdiivka. The Ukrainians sent a lot of re-enforcements and supplies to the town down that road. They tried to hold that road and the railroad tracks for years. The areas that were edited out probably had more Russian vehicles.
@danielkarlsson9326 3 күн бұрын
Some might be like BMP and MTLBs and maybe a tank or two but the most of them was vehicles only Russia Use in quantity such as the chines golf cars and the Scooby vans.
@W1se0ldg33zer 3 күн бұрын
@@danielkarlsson9326 Really hard to say. The Ukrainians used Abrams around that area too.
@tavish4699 2 күн бұрын
That bmp1 at the end for sure I don’t think the Russians use that many of them and it was parked neetly on the entrance of the village facing the enemy It must have been hit by a Russian drone
@Ailasher 2 күн бұрын
@@danielkarlsson9326 That would be true if the West was sending hundreds of tanks and IFVs to help Ukraine. So far, both sides are fighting mostly with Soviet equipment.
@Ailasher 2 күн бұрын
@@danielkarlsson9326 186 (in total) Bradleys, a couple of hundred of M113s (literally Scooby vans, especially compared to the older BMPs). Yes, of course, the entire Ukrainian army is a NATO standart now. (sarcasm)
@wppz7691 Күн бұрын
9:27 this might be an MLTb too with some overhead protection but I am not sure either
@hoegild1 4 күн бұрын
This could be the "the deat road" at Verdun!! The number of casualties here must be staggering..
@fedoresko 4 күн бұрын
Not that much, actually there is a hunt for vehicles at the front. At WW1 one destroyed vehicle was for thousands killed soldiers, currently fortunately just for few people.
@FPoP1911 4 күн бұрын
This war isnow the weirdest ARMA III moded server.
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv 4 күн бұрын
The problem in this war and what is being posted in the media war is though a bigger problem on the pro-Ukrainian side but does happen too on the pro-Russian side is when you see armor units in ruin they paint it as the other side and no actual vetting to see if they belong to one side or the other. Word of wisdom regardless of which side you're on don't trust the numbers or the reports of losses not just in this conflict but in general in pretty all active conflicts.
@ctrlaltdebug 4 күн бұрын
That's Oryx to you.
@sababugs1125 4 күн бұрын
Even if you assume 30% of Russian losses are Ukrainian, it's still in favour of Ukraine
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv 4 күн бұрын
@@sababugs1125 Seeing how much Ukraine has lost and what the Russians are able to replace I can't see how this in Ukraine "favour" it shows the other way around.
@sababugs1125 4 күн бұрын
@@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv in terms of material, the Russians have lost way more Replacing a tank with a golf cart isn't really replacing
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv 4 күн бұрын
@@sababugs1125 But on what? Both sides largely use the same said units that unless you have a anal guy like said Red Effect looking into each said one they could be either Russian or Ukrainian ones. All the people saying the Russians lost "X" in anything have all been proven BS and over the top then was actually sent over. If anything it's shown to be the other way around heavily.
@jorritpolder3409 4 күн бұрын
I would not attribute the lack of MT-LBs to the fact that they should mostly be used behind the lines. In the past half year, we have seen them used on a large scale in direct offensive operations such as assaults. It most likely has to do with the specific units on this part of the front being equipped mostly with BMPs and BTRs as they have some kind of priority for the more heavy equipment, with them being equipped like this because of the high priority of the offensive operations in this sector on the front.
@tavish4699 2 күн бұрын
This reminds me of many of the videos from ww2 that give a similiar picture of
@Korhanne 4 күн бұрын
Dear sir: I'm pretty sure this is visualized. It is, in fact, on video, a visual medium.
@kieranh2005 2 күн бұрын
The names a bit of a hangover from the olden days.
@asavelakuse6865 4 күн бұрын
Avdiivka was really a hard bloody battle impressed how far they were able to push further considering the type of warfare that is occurring.
@jayzandstra1830 4 күн бұрын
now drones might have not been a thing back then but looking at this can you imagine the roads in kursk? stalingrad outskirts? probably wrecks as far as the eye can see.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
Look up "The Sacred Way" at Verdun.
@torenico 4 күн бұрын
There's some photos of german trucks, cars, carts and tanks all smashed up or destroyed after the Red Army directly punched through Army Group Center during Operation Bagration. It's just tons of smashed up vehicles coupled with rotting corpses of horses all over the place.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
@@torenico Or just look up Falaise Pocket - 1944. Highway of Death in First Gulf War, etc., etc. What you see in this video is very small potatoes.
@borissokachev1471 5 күн бұрын
IFV volvos stuffed like clown cars, stolen rugs, assault bikes, battle taxi scooters with 2-3 occupiers on each.. Truly a "special" military operation.
@frigityfaceJR 5 күн бұрын
Oh they are *special* alright lol
@kuunoooo7293 5 күн бұрын
Hey if it works why fix it ?
@TheKsalad 5 күн бұрын
@kuunoooo7293 Its not working, were just seeing sadder and sadder targets for FPV drones
@plushie946 4 күн бұрын
Both sides extensively use civilian-style vehicles in the rear lines as it reduces the need for specialized military vehicles and supplements losses. Motorcycles have been used extensively by all sides of pretty much every major conflict in history since the Spanish Civil War at least. Being critical of Russia is good, they're self evidently in the wrong in this conflict. Being mindlessly critical just misrepresents things and forces people to adopt double standards. There's extensive footage of Ukrainian forces using civilian vehicles in the rear lines. A much more substantive criticism would be that this video shows a stolen Ukrainian civilian vehicle. Looting from civilians is something substantively wrong shown in this video. Russian soldiers using civilian vehicles in and of itself however is a completely logical thing to do, and they've clearly put some thought into it and adapted to the battlefield by cutting off the roof for easy dismount. They aren't mindless orcs, they're humans. That doesn't make what they're doing better, it makes it worse. Mindless orcs know no better. Human beings know better and yet still commit these crimes. Dehumanizing the enemy only hurts yourself.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
@@plushie946 Trying to get Uke fans to write rationally is a fool's errand. You fall for this yourself a bit. What vehicle are you identifying as "stolen" as opposed to "requisitioned"? Do you think that only Russian soldiers do this? Why?
@Axt3r 5 күн бұрын
Can someone point out where this "Atvidka" is? I couldn't find it anywhere
@slumzur 5 күн бұрын
Avdiivka, not "Atvidka"
@ctrlaltdebug 4 күн бұрын
Avdeyevka.
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
Saw a video yesterday of a soldier knocking track pins out of a catastrophic destruction of a T-80. A couple of links if track were still together. Apparently, one of the metal lumps in the clearing was a turbine. Salvaging track pins from a catastrophic loss, the rest of it was metal confetti, seems quite desperate.
@bobbymay8618 5 күн бұрын
save what you can. most army's throughout history have units for this very reason
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
@bobbymay8618 If said track pins weren't a rare commodity, I don't think any salvage unit would have bothered with such a catastrophic loss. Armies work under the same manpower, time, and efficiency requirements as everyone else. How much time, how many vehicles, men, diesel do I spend to investigate literally metal confetti for usable parts. Perhaps the T 80 has different tracks to the T-90/72, and they are like rocking horse poop in the war zone 🤷♂️ , that would explain such a salvage. As there are many wrecks around with tracks still attached.
@looinrims 5 күн бұрын
No reason to abandon perfectly good spares, if nothing else sell them back to the government, those guys gotta make money somehow
@bobbymay8618 5 күн бұрын
@@marcusott2973 yeah true. But it's hard times all around if it's there might as well try to salvage what you can.
@marcusott2973 5 күн бұрын
@@looinrims if the pins come out, they'll go back in, true.
@feedbackzaloop 5 күн бұрын
Would have been nice to have captions for vehicle names like there were toponyms on the map.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 күн бұрын
Would have done it, but it would have taken way longer, activate the regular captions, they are directly from my script, so the correct names are there.
@feedbackzaloop 5 күн бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized indeed, that takes time in video editing. Should have remembered you usually put proper subtitles, not auto-generated.
@tristan1234567890 4 күн бұрын
2:30. though not subject of the analyses, but interesting that they gou in the back appears to wear a Altyn helmet
@someone2549 2 күн бұрын
"MAD MAX" movie scenes are not much different than what we see here 😂
@steve_jackson9933 4 күн бұрын
that would be strange passing through that vehicle graveyard. so much life lost for what?
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
To win a battle (and, to the extent that the bodies etc. were Ukrainian, to lose one). Every war looks more or less like this.
@D64nz 4 күн бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 except we haven't seen war on this scale since WW2.
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
@@D64nz I guess you never saw, e.g., the "Road of Death" or whatever the Iraqi exit route from Kuwait was called. What you see in this video is very small potatoes as this kind of thing goes.
@Some_Average_Joe 3 күн бұрын
Mostly over which oligarchs will be in charge and the color of the flag
@tavish4699 2 күн бұрын
Well I’m part of a discord and there’s a guy that served on the Russian side He says most of them do it for the money I cannot remember the amount of rubles but it was the equivalent of 40k euros or something per year And for someone coming from rural Russia like most of them that’s a shit ton of money Even I as a European wouldn’t mind 40k a year😂
@hinz1 4 күн бұрын
Apocalypse Now vibes, but from Ukraine War is hell, no matter, where!
@hkja99 7 сағат бұрын
That was a video I enjoyed warching
@Doomsday42111 4 күн бұрын
this is the most german video on youtube. 😂 plz next time name what factory the vehicles wer made in. 😂👍🏼 jk love this type of video
@obsidianjane4413 4 күн бұрын
This video would get a US commander relieved. SMDH....
@sumotony 4 күн бұрын
Why? Please explain why? For example who cleaned up after Desert Storm "Road of Death", surely not frontline soldiers.
@sababugs1125 4 күн бұрын
@@sumotonythe road of death was for the Iraqis
@obsidianjane4413 4 күн бұрын
@@sumotony Its not so much the destroyed vehicles, but the stragglers and vehicles wandering around out of uniform with no security on a road that is interdicted and the untended corpses in with the trash. It shows a lack of discipline and poor leadership. In the US Army no Sargent Major would tolerate that clusterfuck.
@karkanrey1463 4 күн бұрын
For real. Walking wounded and people driving civilian vehicles with the top cut off. The Russians really will never learn logistics.
@nihluxler1890 3 күн бұрын
The US literally lost 10.000 aircrafts in Vietnam. That statement only makes sense because you haven’t been in an actual war for half a century.
@quill444 2 күн бұрын
_The most common "vehicles" found in Russian-Occupied Ukraine are those piles of once living Russian soldiers, stacked like cordwood along the side of the road._ 😱 - j q t -
@livinginvancouverbc2247 3 күн бұрын
I've never seen trees with such damage. Every last tree looks the same. It took me a minute to figure out that the trees have all been blasted by bombs. And, I'm thinking that there were people in all those destroyed vehicles. What a hellscape.
@joostdriesens3984 2 күн бұрын
Not all of those vehicles would have people in them. Some of them might have had lesser damage leading to them getting abandoned and fully destroyed later.
@aartamen 2 сағат бұрын
MTLB is mischarachterised, which is odd for now professional the video is. It's an artillery tractor not an apc. It's also heavily used as an apc, not as a logistics vehicle, due to dearth of armor in both militaries. It's armor is worse than m113, but both armors are awful for the circumstances. You can shoot through the side of mtlb with ball 7.62x39, regardless of what Wikipedia might say.
@sjonnieplayfull5859 4 күн бұрын
5:00 yes, that is a washing machine....
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 4 күн бұрын
oh, I missed that.
@Relyt345 3 күн бұрын
This video reminded me of the game “Mercenaries”
@avus-kw2f213 5 күн бұрын
Great to see some analysis of the less exciting part of the war this is more relevant to what the war actually looks like then much in the media
@fgm1197 14 сағат бұрын
7:12 The turret is in a low earth orbit btw.
@sjoormen1 4 күн бұрын
Cabrio tanks, interesting.
@Elongated_Muskrat 5 күн бұрын
Run out of tanks, run out of IFVs, now using bikes and 4 wheelers. I wonder when horses will make their appearance.
@WangMingGe 5 күн бұрын
We Ukrainians have already begun to make use of horses, either to pull wounded on sledges in winter or to carry mobile infantry carrying javelins, though the numbers are very small and it is likely out of choice (mobility in woods, perhaps) not practical desperation. You can find photos of these things by googling.
@renrutmat 5 күн бұрын
The Russians have probably eaten all of them in their zones.
@MrChickennugget360 5 күн бұрын
bikes and light utility vehicles are very useful in this war. High number of Drones means that its extremely dangerous behind the front lines, and motorcycles are at least fast making you harder to hit. Both Russians and Ukrainians are using them. its just the sad reality of modern war.
@avus-kw2f213 5 күн бұрын
Russia has only run out of 20% of tanks & IFV
@Elongated_Muskrat 5 күн бұрын
@@avus-kw2f213 then why not use them?
@Oheng75 5 күн бұрын
I think I saw this movie.. Mad Max I think?
@zhufortheimpaler4041 4 күн бұрын
yeah the russians turning more and more into the Mad Max Army
@Pepe_Silvia 3 күн бұрын
Warum hast du das erste Bild geändert?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 3 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZtyVrMqSsODImqs.html
@somerandomvertebrate9262 4 күн бұрын
Any idea of the amount of Russian vs. Ukrainian vehicles on this road?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 4 күн бұрын
Nope.
@EsotericBachaBazism Күн бұрын
All of them are Russian. Bmp ,btr, mtlb, desert cross golf cart are all flagship russian vehicles
@gagamba9198 5 күн бұрын
@9:15, shouldn't that Persian rug be hanging on someone's wall?
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
Why on a wall and not on a floor? The bed of the truck was presumably more friendly to being slept in with a rug in it. If you anticipated doing that would you likely "requisition" any rug you came across or not?
@waldmensch2010 4 күн бұрын
the barbie mobile shows all the madness
@michalpavloun 5 сағат бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLqbe8ibqta9ho0.html This cabriolet is definitely ZAZ Tavria Sedan, not Lada Samara. Lada Nova nearby is VAZ 2106.
@sale2168 5 сағат бұрын
Why are the trees so extremely fucked up, but there is still a lot of vegetation? artillery?
@bitkarek 3 күн бұрын
the front end device seems to be a jammer, i think.
@user-ui8jt6cx2k Күн бұрын
it is.
@arnevlerick064 5 күн бұрын
Perhaps I've missed it, but are we behind Russian or Ukrainian lines here?
@avus-kw2f213 5 күн бұрын
Z
@gandydancer9710 4 күн бұрын
It used to be one but now it's the other.
@CaspianSea-wt5kw 4 күн бұрын
They are in the Russian lines since Russia took over avdevika
@snafu1635 4 күн бұрын
@@avus-kw2f213Ever since september June 2023 gained a whopping 11square kilometers of Ukraine at the cost of 1106 tanks, 1772 IFVs, 744 of various troops transports, 541 pieces of artillery, 135 AA systems. If Russia keeps having "successful grand offensives" like this they are gonna demilitarize themselves by the time the get to +50 square kilometers of Ukraine captured. Source: groktown substack: Ukrainian and Russian offensive statistics.
@avus-kw2f213 4 күн бұрын
@@snafu1635 WOW 11 km² that used to cost 20,000 men
@jannarkiewicz633 5 күн бұрын
I watched and watched but Mad Max never showed up. First I hear you were comp sci. I'm a C# guy.
@jamesrowlands8971 4 күн бұрын
Nah, this is the spin off. It was Furiosa driving.
@janchovanec8624 3 күн бұрын
"Ad-Vidka".... ahhh, never change. Good content, anyway!.
@bigsarge2085 5 күн бұрын
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@alanwhite7127 3 күн бұрын
that drive sceane will be used in the new call of duty with that cabrio 😅😅😅😅😅
@spyczech 4 күн бұрын
War spectatorship channel, like those people watching the first battle of Bull Run from a hilltop picnic
@nobbynobbs8182 3 күн бұрын
Russkiy Mir = a Mad Max like dystopia
@andrewgreen1940 9 сағат бұрын
Remind me of mutla ridge or the Falaise gap. For any other country this would be a military disaster for Russia it's a normal day at the office.
@colinobrien3806 4 күн бұрын
6.18 the cope cages and the extra armour really worked didnt it ?
@Itachi21x 5 күн бұрын
Mad Max
@wcjones4079 3 күн бұрын
A bet there is a code 200 under that Persian rug...
@user-ui8jt6cx2k Күн бұрын
Likely
@Lovemate5571 4 күн бұрын
Wow! This video was kind of overdue. Mixed emotions. On one hand you just feel devasted about what the Russian occupiers did to this county and still continue to do while I watched this clip. On the other hand its odd, strange and sometimes even hillarious what you can see lying in a road ditch. The Scooby Doo vehicles look so out of place and out of time yet they are still there in 2024! Thanx!
@TheKsalad 5 күн бұрын
Year 3 of 3 Day Military operation They've run out of MRAP clones and are using motorcross toy cars to get around
@AkiWataru 5 күн бұрын
what is MRAP?
@fancyultrafresh3264 5 күн бұрын
@@AkiWataru Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected. US Designation for a variety of light infantry vehicles
@looinrims 5 күн бұрын
@@fancyultrafresh3264more specifically vehicles they contracted after the IED catastrophe in the early parts of the GWOT
@looinrims 5 күн бұрын
Good meme, but I just want to remind everyone that whilst funny to look at they’re still dangerous and would have no qualms coming to other countries to do the same atrocities
@nicolas2419 5 күн бұрын
I don't know if MRAP are so useful in Ukraine. They are not enough armored for the frontline where minefields are. Most MRAP can be easily destroyed by an IFV's autocannon. They are more dedicated for counter-insurgency warfare where IED are widely used.
@ChorltonBrook 3 күн бұрын
The word 'haemorrhaging' comes to mind
@cauwenberghsroeland8607 Күн бұрын
17 000 armoured chars lost in a day ! 510 000 in only one month... That is how the stock of munitions of Ukraina got lost ? ( 3600 seconds in one hour...).
@lukaszslowakiewicz9395 5 күн бұрын
Notice no trucks but so many destroyed scooby do vans - buchankas.
@vladimpaler3498 4 күн бұрын
What a waste.
@MegaDuckmonster 3 күн бұрын
You should check out Bradley Square but regardless, iron is cheap for the largest country on Earth.
@nobbynobbs8182 3 күн бұрын
Life is even cheaper than iron in Russia
@MegaDuckmonster 3 күн бұрын
@@nobbynobbs8182 I thought healthcare is free there?
@nobbynobbs8182 3 күн бұрын
@@MegaDuckmonster And they get what they pay for. Free that actually isn't free, with low quality and long waiting times for good measure
@MegaDuckmonster 3 күн бұрын
@@nobbynobbs8182 fair enough point, can't say I know too much on that subject anyway :)
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv 2 күн бұрын
By addressing Bradley Square then one will have to admit the following realities. 1) Everything bad said about the Russians wasn't true. 2) Everything said about Ukrainians and west wasn't true. 3) Everything said about the war as a whole wasn't true. 4) His means of gathering information and his sources were either at best weren't the greatest or at worse total BS. People need to see both sides from different understandings on the military side of things and put away their personal bias for one side or another when the reality doesn't agree with them. So many people and "Experts". I use to follow lost so much of their reputations at this point they can't ever go back now and it's only a matter of time until it's force upon them and people who still buy into their crap.
@thomastoadie9006 3 күн бұрын
“…Upgraded to a cabriolet”. 🤣
@joseSanchez-ej2oh 5 күн бұрын
Cluster duck road
@dreamcrusher112 3 күн бұрын
just leaving bodies in ditches is terrible.
@guntherhuemer1767 3 күн бұрын
0:05 schead 😅
@kameraldbahrul3432 6 сағат бұрын
In order to make its more neutral You need also ask russian veteran
@jayzandstra1830 4 күн бұрын
and those remains golfcart/scooter assaults/supply runs... comrade commisar would have to shoot me instead of giving me such suicidal orders lol.
@russwoodward8251 3 күн бұрын
Thank you.
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