Milwaukee M18 Palm Router Review. "The Re-Do!!

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@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Be sure to watch the entire video, there isn't a problem with the tool I was using it incorrectly which I demonstrate in the video.

@passenger3 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this John. Just bought it and taking it on the job this morning, I've been frightened to death over it with all the bad reviews lol wasn't cheap

@B-DINO Жыл бұрын

@@passenger3 I haven't seen any bad reviews. Everyone is raving about it. I have one but I've yet to actually use it. I had fear of missing out and had to get one lol

@passenger3 Жыл бұрын

@@B-DINO yes mate...as long as you don't forget to open the locking latch before you micro adjust the setting with the little wheel , your absolutely fine. I've purchased it because I'm in the platform and I love it 💪👍

@passenger3 Жыл бұрын

@@B-DINO but there's bad reviews because people are not using it properly and are breaking the mechanism.

@passenger3 Жыл бұрын

@@B-DINO but this guy gets to the reason why and it's because it's not being operated properly

@Thomas998822 Жыл бұрын

I suspected user error on that height adjustment. A lot of people and reviewers are misusing and trashing this tool. I searched through many videos to find yours. I knew someone had the solution, and you did. You just convinced me to buy this, instead of the Makita. Many thanks.

@JustSomeGuyJ14 2 жыл бұрын

I have this router and I always pass with a standard flute cutter before a dovetail but I'm impressed it managed it without the initial clearing pass! Also very good of you to go back and redo your review after learning more about the adjustment mechanism.

@ianstonham8727 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for this vid i used mine for the first time today and the blade was going down as i was using the router so came on here to see if anyone else had same issue and yours was the first vid that showed this issue. now i have tightened the screw up it works perfectly. i have now subscribed to your channel thanks again

@charlesthomas4032 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining the fine adjustment in detail. I had my router base raise up mid cut on a round over. I was fine adjusting with it locked. I read you have to open that latch and was worried I blew mine out. You showed the latch adjustment now I’m back in business!

@SlyPstmn 3 жыл бұрын

Respect on the correction John. I'm not the best at accepting I was incorrect initially and correcting myself. Saw the earlier video and watched this one. I appreciate the honesty here.

@bcnssupport9359 Жыл бұрын

Thanks John, I have this router myself all the other videos I have seen use it incorrectly and complain about the fine adjustment. One chap was on his Fourth Replacement body for the locked fine adjustment issue. great to see it corrected.

@iamjtbe 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. I recently purchased this router also being in the the M18/M12 lineup. I have not had a chance to use it as I have moved on to other projects that don't require me to buy crazy overpriced lumber. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks again for the review.

@steven_vogt 2 жыл бұрын

1. Kudos to you for being open about the "user error". Your transparency and honesty is one of the reasons you are among my favourite channels 2. #toungeincheek :) you had me in stitches on this one. 7:21 "come on America come to the 21st century - move to metric like everyone else" 11.21 "I'm using a 1/4inch bit" ;)

@MeToob 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful review, I can see myself making the same mistake! Suggestion: get yourself a couple of bench dogs. Your work surface is all set up for them with the holes already, and they wont get in the way like the clamps do.

@thegoodfight365 2 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same experience and opinion. Many videos make a point to show they're not interested in checking the manufacturers instructions. But your self critique of how easy it is to get it wrong regardless of your experience. Many content makers take themselves far too serious and pointing out your error shows integrity and a load of other great characteristics. In my humble opinion. Thanks for sharing. May God bless you.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 3 жыл бұрын

Awsome review...... I started watching you when you star your channel, was among first to subscribe, you were actually motivation to start my own woodturning channel. Thank you for inspiration 😀

@rodv7779 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, yet another great video! I purchased this model a few months ago, and sadly it is still sitting in the box. It's on my list to do once the weather warms up a bit here in Canada to put it to work! I was apprehensive about the slop issue and tried to remember where I put the receipt to return the router for something better. Thankfully your honesty with what had happened once again restored my faith in my purchase decision. Out of all the tool reviews I've seen elsewhere on KZfaq, I value your opinion the most. Keep up the great work. Cheers mate!

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Wow still to cold to work, that's hard going my friend.

@juantascon Жыл бұрын

I was scratching my head about the play I was also experiencing with this router. Turns out I was using it the same way you were. You just gained a new subscriber. Thanks for solving the mystery. Tragedy averted.

@andre1987eph 2 жыл бұрын

Each of the top three Makita, Milwaukee, and Dewalt each have cordless tools that offer something the other brands don’t. It makes sense to buy a battery/charger combo pack of each of the top three, preferably when one goes on sale. This leaves you free to chose the best cordless tool type in each category. For example you can chose to own, Dewalt Cordless Router, Makita Multi tool and Impact drivers, Milwaukee Hacksawz, or whatever combo has the best price, etc.

@engjds 2 жыл бұрын

Makita good but Dewalt is not in the same league imo.

@reubenca Жыл бұрын

Hi John, just a comment about battery size. A 2.0AH battery will work fine in most applications, this battery is much lighter and makes it easier to control. I was having trouble with the micro adjustment control as well. Glad you made this video to help me with this issue. Thx, Reuben.

@three-phase562 3 жыл бұрын

Good investment, they are handy little tools aren't they. Had my Makita unit for around 18 months now and it is so useful for quick simple jobs.

@rightpassage 2 ай бұрын

I added this to my lineup yesterday. Quite happy with it! Just have to feel it out to get the hang off it. I use the 6.0 for longevity. I DO recommend keeping the bit clean as you go. When I get to the edge. I air the router off. Wet my finger to wipe the bit, & use a little paintbrush to keep it fresh, & continue. No more burns!

@ifiwooddesigns 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love Milwaukee and all their quality products. My issue is I bought all cordless when I started woodworking and while cordless is convenient to use, some products like tablesaw, orbital sander and router drain batteries on big projects. I’ve bought the largest batteries and didn’t help much on these 3 tools. I’ve since went back to corded since then. So my question to you as a woodworker and master electrician: any way I can create an adapter to feed my cordless Milwaukee tools? Some have told me the 110V system can’t handle the amps a cordless requires. Milwaukee doesn’t have corded tablesaws, so would love an option to use it on my workbench. There is an adapter for Dewalt tools. Would love a video or insight on an adapter. Thanks and keep up the great videos.

@tonyw8529 3 жыл бұрын

As always John an honest review and it’s good to see you explain how easy it is to miss things if you don’t check the instructions, but who does ! 🤣

@engjds 2 жыл бұрын

So glad i committed to this platform, no disappointments, even the non fuel planer is quality though other non-fuel are not meant to last a lifetime though so be wary. PS: The fuel multitool, brad nailer gen 3, and the legendary Sawzall are rock solid. The little M12 rotary tool is better than Dremel and should last providing you dont stall it in which case it will burn out the mosfets and they are very difficult to replace even with good soldering skills. The M12 soldering Iron is great, but order in some spare 250deg thermal inline cutouts, as they burn out after 50 hours or so.

@michaellionart4841 3 жыл бұрын

“Honest John, renowned throughout the seven collieries” 👍

@avu_metalsmith 2 жыл бұрын

8:50 Thanks for the tip on the fine adjuster… been searching on how to fix that!

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@conantdog 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent that you sorted that out I have one on the way in the mail I was wondering if I bought a defective product 👍 Also in the mail is a plunge base and a simple two handled base 😵. Thanks again 👌

@engjds 2 жыл бұрын

I got a plunge base, but hardly use it since its very cumbersome for most work, plus it limits visibility on cut lines.

@heriothandyman3148 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve the Makita R0700 and it had exact the same issue, or so I thought. Mine would slip and just felt rubbish. Tighten bolt and it’s been golden ever since.

@markchadwick77 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I can see from your demonstations that I might think twice about using the dust collection because it seems to defeat the purpose of being cordless. It's probably better to just let the dust go flying and concentrate on the task at hand. You convinced me to buy one since I'm already on the Milwaukee platform (drills). Thanks!

@ex8280 Жыл бұрын

It would be wise to use a dust collector, for health reason. A little, I think is okay, but not for long term.

@bonniemaynard8125 2 жыл бұрын

So glad you talked about the fine adjustment on this tool. Has been a big problem for me.

@Twelvegoldteeth 2 жыл бұрын

Dude…me too! I’ve had this router for a while but never used it because I didn’t understand why it could still be adjust with the quick release lever closed. I mean, “it worked” but I noticed it was possible that the depth could change during a cut. This video cleared everything up. I reread the instructions, and although it IS in the instructions, it’s not emphasized. I believe they are being sold without being already at a “locked and ready to go” position.

@thomasgilbert9347 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the details presented in this video.

@TheBluealan2000 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks John, brilliant to leave the mistake in as well.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@sustainableliving880 Жыл бұрын

Glad you sorted that slop problem! We don’t have it in Australia. Nice n tight!😅

@natethe_skate_2805 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Have one on order and am glad I found this!

@adrianpreston 3 жыл бұрын

Thats great information - nothing like seeing the wrong way and then the right way - well done mate. It would have been so easy to have edited that out/replace the video - thank you for showing us the right way. I have a similar system on my Ryobi so double check how I'm using it.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

No problem Adrian

@MelbourneAlan 3 жыл бұрын

i dont have the milwaukee but do have the makita and dewalt. they are both brilliant. amazingly handy for round overs etc.

@davealvis 3 жыл бұрын

Great video . Can you help me with a query ..What are dimensions of the parallel (edge) guide bars and the distance between the holes in the plunge base that they slide into ?. Was wondering (probably rather optimistically) whether my Bosch edge guide would fit ...

@jason-hh6lu 2 жыл бұрын

That router must be handy for door hinges when hanging doors, nice big view of the bit too. 👍🏻😊

@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome review, John! Thanks a lot! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@house9850 2 ай бұрын

Went to home Depot today, and now they have the Milwaukee MX battery platform.... I just invested in the M18 !!

@brentfowler2317 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you figured that out my friend. I was disappointed to see you having so much trouble with yours. I bought that same router couple months ago. And I hadn't had any trouble with mine. So I was really surprised to see you having such a hard time with yours. But I'm happy it worked out my friend. Congrats, and yes there's no problem with power with that router. Lol I was like dang, that thing is insane.. lol

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Brent, it is a powerful little tool

@peternatoli2555 Жыл бұрын

Nice to see your honesty John. Thank you. All the best

@JohnMcGrathManInShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@kingsteegg 2 жыл бұрын

It would be great to dump the fractions. I remember when they stopped teaching it to us in school. My cool snoopy ruler had metric on one side and imperial on the other. I was just a kid, but I was pretty angry they got rid of metric and stuck with the fractions.... Ironically, they kept teaching Latin, a pretty much dead language. It was the Regan years. Ketchup was considered a vegetable in our lunch program.

@scottcallan3897 3 жыл бұрын

Once again on the money. Thanks for your honest reviews. always the best.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Scott

@kenerickson4923 11 ай бұрын

I bought a metric bolt to replace the supplied bolt for the edge guide .I could not get the original bolt tight tight enough. Now I can tighten with a wrench.

@cato4603 11 ай бұрын

Thank u so much I thought mine had a little play in it I was so disappointed fixed now thank u!

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 11 ай бұрын

You're welcome!!

@michaelwadsworth4170 3 жыл бұрын

Metric only matter outside the US!!! We "Good ones" can convert in our heads at the drop of a Euro. Amazing Review, Mate. Def Subscribing.

@Realism91 Жыл бұрын

I've been wondering about making a lipping base from the offset base for flushing solid wood edging. In place of a lipping planer.

@arshadalishah3817 3 жыл бұрын

Nice amazing Milwaukee, pity it's too expensive in Fiji. Well for us cheap Chinese brand does the same job and when it's worn out, it just goes down the bin 😂😂😂😂😂. Cheers man have a good day and Easter weekend. May God bless all the woodworkers and makers around the globe.

@colinmcdonald7591 3 жыл бұрын

I love it! Not just honest, but humble too. I love Milwaukee M18 tools. I hate Milwaukee battery prices. More often than not the best battery for the tool costs significantly more than the bare tool. But the platform can't be beat for reliability, toughness and power. Can we expect this great little router to appear regularly during the house reno and upgrade projects?

@ChargedPulsar Жыл бұрын

Lol, I'm pointing out the metric system as well, whenever I can, sometimes I even get insulted back. They sure love their inferior system which they themselves can't even understand.

@MD-gc4xq 10 ай бұрын

I’ve got one of these and only used it a few times and when pushing the spindle lock to stop the head turning when releasing the bit I find it’s not engaging properly and the spanner just turns. Any ideas how to remedy this as it’s out of warranty? Do you know if it can be stripped down? Cherrs

@stephensimpson5283 3 жыл бұрын

Great review mate. I was thinking about getting one of these.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

@SB-tf5de 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. Greetings from Seattle area.

@gnewt821 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, watched Milwaukee M18 Palm Router re-do and I got this router as a gift so no returning it.....lol I would like to use it in a table as well and hard to find a plate that it mounts to. Do you know of any brand that this router can attach to or I'm I stuck at trying to make a custom plate out of wood or HDPE seaboard material? Any input would help and thanks.

@roar40s 3 жыл бұрын

Do you lock your chuck correctly? I was doing it wrong for years. Not many people know that you have to twist the chuck back one click after tightening it. That's what stops it loosening during use.

@tphilbro 2 жыл бұрын

Great video really useful for a prospective buyer

@aidankennedy8924 3 жыл бұрын

Love the dado cutting with the trim router. Dog it into her! Was on the fence with it but now my mind has been made up. Keep up the good work love the videos. .

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Its not what a trim router is for but just to show it can do it.

@aidankennedy8924 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed it's a mighty little machine by the looks of it

@retrobombstudios1258 Жыл бұрын

ive just brought this off ebay and the collet holder is silver not black plus it too small to accept a quarter inch bit im not intersted in trying to chase down the seller now as too much time has passed Does this seem right to u and is it possible to change the collets?

@brendandowling00 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, just had to laugh at the dovetail sounding like the small T. rex in Jurassic park, maybe I’ve seen it too much who knows, keep it up pal and good shit keeping that little mistake in here, I’ve often seen videos of people shite talking something just because they don’t know how to use it properly, nice to see someone correcting their mistake

@markgeezey1809 3 жыл бұрын

Fair play John. Easy mistake to make in all honesty. So funny as thought why is your video coming up as new when I had already seen it?🤔 It was only when I went in to the comments that I realised you’d redone it. Fair play and at least you have a top tool now. 👍. I am thinking of buying one of those Bosch router guide rails you have as look superb for dados? I believe it fits on the Makita palm router and track. Do you think your Milwaukee would fit on it?

@patjacobs9616 2 жыл бұрын

Never touched a router so first time ever using a router, I bought this guy. Not knowing anything about a router, I knew right away to use the latch for the adjuster!? Come on man! Haha good video though.

@mattlong6359 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know if they make a bushing kit for this router ? Thx in advance

@mrpatel8322 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one John, another great video with honesty

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@sathancat Жыл бұрын

Sorry about metric, we kinda get it but we're hard-wired to lean Freedom Units :) Thanks for the review

@jlmfoy365 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, just a quick question is the router soft start? My old corded router kicks in at full revs and frightens the s##t out of me. Thanks. Regards Jim.

@jeromephilipon750 8 ай бұрын

Very informative. I am ordering one

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@adamgoddard5143 3 жыл бұрын

Great job bud. I always think the sign of a good tool is; if it broke would you buy it again?

@itusvirus 6 ай бұрын

Wondering when they are going to release a new generation of this router and get rid of the wobly edge guide and awkward lock & adjustment mechanism.

@cuebj 3 жыл бұрын

For dovetail groove with a trim router, wouldn't you use a straight bit followed by the dovetail bit? That's what I had to do 25 years ago with 500 Watt 6mm collet routers

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

yeah sure but that wasn't the point of the demonstration

@dannymeil3294 Жыл бұрын

Great job very educational

@microheavy21 3 жыл бұрын

Good review John, after take 2 ! Good honest explanation and a reminder to us all to RTFM ! Looks like a good piece of kit. Never had a red tool, all of mine are yellow. Can you get them here ? The imperial thing might be a pain but not that much for the type of work you'd do with this reckon. Happy Easter !

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the red tools are readily available here.

@microheavy21 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed Right, totally missed them. Blinded by the yellow I suppose but I'm not about to start again !

@lesliekho8970 5 ай бұрын

Hi, Does anybody have the heat issue? I just bought a new one and operated around 10mins for a few of rabbet joint, the router start to heat up. Is that normal??

@tzuwarrior499 2 жыл бұрын

Well done and good catch on the micro adjustment. Also i may add no the U.S. wiil never move the building trades to metric its just to engrained in our way of life. Fine a bottle of coke is 2 liters. Thats all we're going to get..😉

@stevehoward4747 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am moving back to Great Britain soon and bringing all my Milwaukee tools from USA. How much are the m12 m18 chargers there?

@juliant3871 Жыл бұрын

I haven’t used the router yet. But this is the best video I’ve seen on that router. Thank you for being honest and thorough with your video

@firstlast189 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from America! I like your review! I am a new Subscriber. I hear you on the imperial units scale haha. We are just too stubborn to change.

@firstlast189 Жыл бұрын

I see how it is. Instead of me saying I have 9 inches, you say you have 228.6 mm. I see what your doing there. 11 months and not a single like. ✌

@danphilpott6302 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome content! Cheers from Newfoundland!

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks and hello from Ireland

@jennifercousins9603 6 ай бұрын

What is the lock washer and regular washer for? The book doesn’t say.

@paulpurcell4735 2 жыл бұрын

John is there a way of fitting 16mm bush guide to the router for hinge jig

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 2 жыл бұрын

you will need an adaptor plate

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 3 жыл бұрын

Keep up with great videos.....

@duncanabbot8352 3 жыл бұрын

The insert edit was very useful. I have that little fella and had experienced similar concerns with the locking mechanism so it as good to see I was not alone. I agree 100% about the metrics: I can no longer think in Imperial.

@theRealSintaxi 2 жыл бұрын

I'm the opposite. I can only reason using imperial.

@thegoodfight365 2 жыл бұрын

There are screws to remove the slop. And the clamp should be open when adjusting the depth.

@jinkyjinx9048 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John can you get a guide bush for using the router with jigs

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

you can get a trend base for it that will take guide bushes

@pctatc66 3 жыл бұрын

man john, you took down the other video where I commented on my unit having only very minimal slop. I had MAYBE 1/10 of a mm of slop. are you using a gen 1 or the new Gen 2 palm router?

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think there is a gen 2 version of the router it was only released last year

@Dr2009king 2 жыл бұрын

They say 1 in 10 will admit to his mistakes .. I'm lucky to find that one on KZfaq.

@RudiVDS 3 жыл бұрын

Hello John which brand of routerbits do you use on the Milwaukee router? I think Milwaukee doens't have there own routerbits

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

the ones I was using in this video were Trend

@RudiVDS 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed ok thanks for your quick respons

@affliction1979 Жыл бұрын

I just picked this up from Home Depot for $199 USD with a charger and 2 5 amp hour batteries. It should arrive by Friday. I am pretty excited about it.

@andre1987eph 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the slop issue. The locking mechanism is still a bad design.

@profuse007 2 жыл бұрын

John: in most cases, is 0.5mm (1/64" to 1/65") tolerance acceptable in high-end furniture building? BTW, are you a former machinist?

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 2 жыл бұрын

It really depends on the joint and where it is. I'm not a machinist though I'm an Electrician

@celticwoodreations 2 жыл бұрын

Could this work for rounding chopping board corners pal

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah no problem

@celticwoodreations 2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed what bit would you reccomend. My boards are between 20 and 25mm thick

@harryharris7663 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@kaleb_barbour3 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, we don't like the imperial fractions either...

@hillertj 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, when a mistake like with the fine adjuster is that easy to make, reading the instructions cover to cover is not a defense. It is a design flaw. At the very least they should sell these things with a sticker on the match warning the user.

@chrisweigand1817 2 ай бұрын

wee beasty! I love it but don't love the router at all.

@tek_soup 2 жыл бұрын

thank you.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@josephgodleski6910 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, they should have put the tightening system on the metric side then you would have seen it. Just kidding thanks for the review.

@projectrebuild908 3 жыл бұрын

I was devastated when I clicked the vid and it had been removed

@user-xt5lv1rv4c 8 ай бұрын

were still not using the metric system thank god.....

@suzesiviter6083 2 жыл бұрын

I bought this to remove dirt from behind my toe nails, I lost the first toe but continued on different speed settings thinking it was user error, now I have lost all my toes and cant stand up, be warned.

@swami15 2 жыл бұрын

TOO FUNNY!!

@keithanderson7720 2 жыл бұрын

Ear protection but no eye protection?

@owendukes145 3 жыл бұрын

What was wrong with the first one

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't have the correction in it

@TheBlueCollarConservative 3 жыл бұрын

And if you have just gone down the Makita line instead of Milwaukee, all would have been perfect in the first place.😉😅 I was building some shelves about 2 months ago and ended up buying the Makita palm router. Anything less than a 4mh battery is a waste of time in any of these tools.

@suzesiviter6083 2 жыл бұрын

No one buys Blue tools anymore, their power sucks ass.