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MIND BLOWN! Thai ไทย-Vietnamese Việt-Chinese 中 Tones, Consonant, Vowel ONE Romanised Writing System

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Stuart Jay Raj

Stuart Jay Raj

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if you could have a precise Romanisation system that could be applied to nearly all Thai, Vietnamese and even Chinese languages and dialects. After this clip, you will be a master of Thai, Vietnamese and Chinese Consonants and Tones.
In this, Part 3 of my 'Developing a Vietnamese Chữ Quốc Ngữ Style Romanisation System for Thai, you will finally see how all Thai, Vietnamese and Chinese Consonants, Tones and Vowels can be 'LINKED' together in a way that will allow a universal way of writing Thai without having to really alter it for any dialect / region.
#Thai #Vietnamese #Chinese #Writing #Tones #Vowels
See Part 1 - Could Thai ไทย use a Romanisation Script System like Vietnamese Quốc ngữ?
• Could Thai ไทย use a R...
See Part 2 - Using Vietnamese Chữ Quốc Ngữ Tone Markers for Thai ไทย Romanisation? - Part 2
• Using Vietnamese Chữ Q...
See Part 3 - MIND BLOWN! Thai ไทย-Vietnamese Việt-Chinese 中 Tones, Consonant, Vowel ONE Romanised Writing System
• Using Vietnamese Chữ Q...
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@ml-mw7ms
@ml-mw7ms 5 ай бұрын
Finally, someone put it all together, connected the dots. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 All these years, I've been wondering.
@TalaySeedam
@TalaySeedam 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and mind-blowing indeed. However the system you're proposing might be a perfect tool for linguists, the practical application in e.g. teaching Thai would be limited, it's might be too counterintuitive for an average language user. But still the whole idea is eye-opening and proves what you've said, all these languages are working on the same engine.
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 жыл бұрын
This IS the system Vietnamese uses - the 2 main things that would be a deterrent would be 1. The tone marker doesn't always indicate the same pitch contour... just as is the case with standard Thai script now, and 2. The SHAPES of the tone diacritics were roughly based on Vietnamese contours, so don't really intuitively resemble contours of the Thai pitch contours that they render... but this hammers home the idea that tones are NOT pitch contours. These markers are just labels of throat actions and pitch just happens to be a by-product. When it comes down to it, an Abugida is actually much more suited to languages like Thai, Vietnamese and even Chinese.
@andrewdunbar828
@andrewdunbar828 2 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj I shall await your forthcoming videos where you devise abugidas for Vietnamese and Chinese (-:
@tiongkueng
@tiongkueng Жыл бұрын
actually voiced aspirated sounds exist in the gan chinese language. for example in the nanchang dialect(the new nanchang dialect has basically lost it,but originally it had it)大 is pronounced as dhai
@AlgyCuber
@AlgyCuber 2 жыл бұрын
next will you switch it the other way around and make a thai abugida for vietnamese? i think it would be a fun idea also.
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 жыл бұрын
you read my mind!
@daotruong2275
@daotruong2275 2 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj Please do that!!! I’ll be waiting for that brilliant content.
@daotruong2275
@daotruong2275 2 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj as a Vietnamese speaker, I have always found my writing system lacking something. There have been many people trying to use the logic of Hangul to reform Vietnamese writing. But Abugida!? Sounds fascinating.
@MaximTendu
@MaximTendu 2 жыл бұрын
@@daotruong2275 it does indeed and, if nothing else, it's much more practical than Chữ Nôm. As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't dislike grouping together syllables of the same word, making its use easier and more familiar to Western learners- for example tiếngviệt (Vietnamese language) quốctế (International) or ngàymai (tomorrow) :)
@andrewdunbar828
@andrewdunbar828 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaximTendu Years ago when Wiktionary was just starting out somebody was contributing their pet project of a reformed Vietnamese orthography that did just that. I think they called it something like Viet2000. As Wiktionary decided their direction the ended up purging it all in favour of stuff people actually use.
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