Thats a mini comment just made 😂

Smoke minis all day in my GTI,

Yeah til a Cooper JCW B48 shows up, grande problemo😂

Because it’s true 😂😂

Lmao I literally beat cooper S’s in my Polo GTI 😂😂😂

They are BMWs, but FWD BMWs. The engine is a detuned version of the B48 engine used in more than half the BMW fleet (lower spec variants at least). It's the 4-banger version of all the current modular BMW engines, but small changes here and there like no extra intercooler in the intake manifold, etc. I know that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but it's true. :) Plenty of fun, but definitely not meant for drag racing really, haha!

People still call it a girl car. The horsepower is low but that doesn’t mean it’s slow

@@sethstearns2090 There is no such thing as a girl car. If they're saying that, they're a fucking idiot and probably not a car-person. I mean, I know a girl who drives a Turbo LS-swapped FD RX-7. Does that make that a girl car too then? I know girls who drive trucks. Are those now girl cars? Nope.

burner12 I have 2 Minis (R53 and F56). The people who buy Minis are frequently not into modding their cars. If they are, they want stripes or some other aesthetic thing. They also don’t seem to like to get their hands dirty and do the work themselves. I come from the Scion community that is SUPER DIY, so the fact that the Mini people aren’t is weird to me. That’s just my personal take on why the tuner scene isn’t very Mini-centric.

@@zachattackzero Both Cooper S'? Which do you prefer? I have a r53 JCW with a handful of mods, always wondered what a go in the r56 would be like.

It’s slow

@@LoXHumaN not really

itachi uchiha yeah it is lol

@@LoXHumaN have you even driven any mini in your life?

Ove Lumiste yes friend had one fbo and tune, it’s nothing special

about to say the same thing

Me and my brother just make videos for fun. So we're not professionals. Of course, we can always learn to make our new videos better. We will certainly think about your idea! Thanks for your feedback!

CSR TV well if your videos are this bad you should just stop... im playing but next time no music. At all literally 0 music.

Truth Hurts Fact! Which BMW do you own? 😜

CSR TV Sorry I meant the BMW engines they use in the MINI haha 😊

@@the___truth8038 Haha no problem, my mistake! I will rephrase my question: Which Mini do you own?

It's either BMW underrate their engine performance or other manufacturers overrated their own. And also the F56 feature over-boost

Cheng Hoo Sew How do you mean that the F56 has overboost?

Why is it that BMW engines have more horsepower than they officially communicate?

Surces please..

Boost Wars Here’s one and there’s loads of videos on KZfaq about this. www.google.com/amp/s/www.minif56.com/forum/833-engine-powertrain/64234-stock-dyno-runs.html%3Famp%3D1

www.minif56.com/forum/289-mini-f56-general-discussion/81633-stock-2017-f56-cooper-s-dyno.html#/topics/81633 Wars And another...

Mini Cooper S is acc 192 HP from manufacturer

Well first off. A couple of foot ball fields is 600ft almost 1/8th mile and second off a 1/4 mile is only 1320ft.

fatwalletboy2 If you pay attention to it, you are actually right! 😂

Michael Tabhan Haha woops 😂

Parking by braille

Jacques Cloete We will try to set up a race between these two cars but can’t promise anything 😊

I wouldn’t say you can do more with them, the aftermarket for the mini is insane. It’s a bit intimidating almost, I don’t know what I wanna spend my money on most

​@@j240x7 if say the gti has a bigger aftermarket, and the sleekness of the gti is almost undefeated for the pricepoint

@@david.m5099 I wouldn’t say so. I went to a 230i coupe which I’d say is more sleek and costs the same.

I had a GTI, spent 20k on aftermarket performance... it was still slow... So I got a WRX, but now want a MINI

@@Nigriff If you spent $20k on a GTI and it was still slow that sounds like a you problem

My brother owns a GTI, he wants me to get a cooper S so he has "worthy competition"

@MrKillerrellik2008 I agree power to weight ratio is the big thing. But they are both great cars and I would argue the GTI would be a better daily driver with more affordable maintenance

😂😂😂 you idiots really believe a Cooper s is on the same level as a Golf GTI. I’ve heard it all now.

Matt Samuels stfu

Matt Samuels well it weight less than the gti and the cooper S makes 210 hp tested on the dyno stock the car is basically a bmw and bmw always lies about there numbers mine is currently making 215 with a dinan intake i also smoked a 2018 gti so....

Cant be, the cooper s reached 232 kph at the end (144 mph) so I imagine the race was likely a 1/2 mile

@@RotaryMan1776 there’s no way they went 1/2 mile in 12 seconds. The posted speed (232 v. 217) is likely the governed top speed for each car, not speed they achieved.

Yeah I just bought a Mini Cooper S R56 they're hell of a lot faster than what they say I love it

I have a 2020 and whhat I’m really impressed is the gears to 1-3 it’s so fast in those gears and the transmission is so nice. I haven’t seen much on 2020 versions but Ik they are faster then year16’s cuz of the upgraded engine

Can confirm, mini has short gears which are really well matched to the engine, so it feels really nice when launching and at low revs, and the golf feels so much more powerful through high speeds, and cuts through everything.

Stiffer rear springs

Arsenic Legendz A local carwrapper did it. It’s not an original carbon part.

The only bimmer car with loads of carbon is the bmw i3 or i8. Rest is all sticker tuning or useless carbon parts

No, the Mini Cooper S is front-wheel drive. As I know there exists a performance version of the Golf GTI with 245 BHP but in this video we used the standard version with 220 BHP. Correct me if I’m wrong 😉

@@CSRTV007 its pre facelift golf so it has 220hp or 230 with performance package. red badges mean its PP. Facelift golf PP is 245hp.

Yeah neither one of those are true guys. Pre face lift was 210 or 220 with performance pack, after face life was 220 all trims and 2019 is 228 all trims. These are American numbers though

@@pwdt4r313 True but golf in this video is EU version as it has electric handbrake.

I disagree I believe it’s how you maintain them because I’ve owned a Mini Cooper s for 4 years and the only issue was the clutch going out at 120,000 miles which is normal on all manual cars, I know the early automatic transmission models like 2009 for example has issues but the new models seem to be vary we’ll maid. Even though their made by bmw

@@ghostedwarrior1968 I wasn't specific, I had a r56 Cooper s and had 55k on the clock. And the timing chain started making noise at 60k. And I know they were flawed for burning more oil than engines usually burn and their service interval stated by mini was 10k so .. 10k mile intervals plus oil burning engine, plus a oil pressured timing chain tensioner was not a good mix at all. By the time I got my hands on it. Thing couple had only 5 oil changes in the matter of 50k miles. I did 3 oil changes in the matter of 4 months of owning it. It still shit itself.

The mini cooper s is rated top 5 most unreliable car in the world, and after owning 2 mini coopers.. I'll stand by that top 5 most unreliable rating..

@@yukiiscrazy5676 lol how do you even use and maintain your car?! 😂 had 3 the past 12 years with barely any major issues . Well looked after cars! its how you damn look after it.

@@yukiiscrazy5676 was yours from Brand new minis or used ones? There will be a difference.

We just want to let you know that we are not professionals. We are making video's because we are passionate about cars. With every video we make, we learn new things and we will definitely take your comment with us for the following videos. So, thank you for the feedback! 👍

Golf has rear wheel mini front wheel???

I own both and the day that the GTI lost piston #3 was a truly bad day, especially at the labour rates VW dealer wanted to charge

Mini Cooper will smoke a GTI anyday

Naja, die tun sich preislich nicht viel. Ich fahre nen 20er Cooper S, und die Preise sind recht human. Humaner hast es bei der VAG definitiv nicht. 👌

The GTI has a better power to weight ratio

Robotic Venom the mini has around 217 hp its been proven and has been tested on the dyno plus it weight less than the gti so???? And bmw always lies about their numbers

@Cali Bassin TV Because subjectively the older gen cars look nicer ..and are truer to the small car ideals of the original. Plus those turbo charged 1.6 engines are brilliant. But once you step on the throttle of a TwinTurbo 2.0, your days thinking about high performance 1.6s and cute small gen cars quickly disappear. Dude, even in standard "MID" mode traction is an issue ..in Sports Mode, the F56 is another class. I will give up all sentimental longings for that ...

@@johnypiston I'd also guess the 2-litre engine will not have the reliability issues the 1.6 had, it being much less squeezed for performance.

Brayan Guillen Hi Brayan! Both cars are stock, only the Golf GTI has BBS rims.

I have a golf r and trust me I’ll leave a cooper s in the dust. Before I even hit 6th gear I’ll be 3 bus lengths ahead.

@@808LAND Ahh, but then there's the JCW... and don't forget the GP.

Song name is "BULLSHIT"

Mini S comes with twin turbo stock, its pretty small but adds close to 90-100hp

You've got a point there! Thanks for your feedback, we will keep these things in mind for our next videos 😊

I have a mk6 gti with a down pipe and intake stock tune I ran a sti from a 30 roll and I gaped him have a video to prove it as well

@@Qlayertwo wrx are slow as fuck stock, that's not impressive.

Census You won’t regret it, trust me 😉

CSR TV yeah I was going to buy a paceman but someone bought it before me. Now I’m looking at the F56

You are not the only one 😉

High life Have you ever driven a Mini Cooper S?

High life The same version as in the video (F56) with 192 BHP?

@High life Haha no, I am just trying to understand your comment. You drove the older model with 211 BHP. A lot has changed I think. From my experience the car drives very well and accelerates good, much faster than most of the hatchbacks I drove. But everyone has their opinion when it comes to cars, no problem 😉

High life i think only butthurt here is you buahah mad that vw got owned ;)

Exactly so your saying power isn't everything

Robotic Venom We also thought that the Golf GTI would be much quicker than the Mini Cooper S but in fact the first 50 meters of the GTI are really slow...

VW fanboys hating hahaha..

@@Tom933 How am I hating? Please restate your statement with some actual facts or insight. I'm just revealing the facts, both awesome cars, the mini cooper s is cheaper and sounds better.

@@CSRTV007 Well from all the magazines and comparison I don't understand this, turbo kicks in @ around 1500 rpm which is pretty impressive. This is a good real world test to be fair, but frankly, the GTI has a faster 0-60 so it doesn't make any sense that it would be beaten by the mini. I love both cars I really do, the mini cooper s is cheaper and sounds better, but the GTI picks up quick. I just think either the driver or the car is at fault here, in the sense that there's something out of the ordinary. Especially since the GTI is a DSG with much quicker shifting and a better powerband makes it even harder to believe. The GTI is lowered and has some rims on it, so that might've had an effect. This might also be the rare GTI with an open diff, as the large majority have LSD's. If so, come back with the more common LSD that's found in all SE, autobahn, Wolfsburg, Rabbit, and performance package cars, and nit a base model S without the PP

Robotic Venom The mini won both races. And youre making up exscuse, talking about drivers and remaps. Its just a youtube video, chill ffs lol.

Yeah we just seen that xD

Shit VW lose

@kevin leigh One turbo for the low revs and one turbo for the high revs?

Bailey Pate Yes, the damage is from the previous owner.

MrLee 123 Thanks for the support! 🤙🏼

Which is still less than the GTI

@@aarongrisham5555 that being said the mini will still take the GTI to Gapplebee's

@@ChrisHiler4EG63T I know lol

Have fun going to gapplebees

Wrong mini 270nm golf 350 👌🏼

OZZY ZIG The Volkswagen could use a supercharger for the low revs. But this would also have many disadvantages like more weight, more power would be needed,...

Turbos are better than superchargers my friend… mo powa baby…..!

R is much more powerful than a JCW and it's all AWD too. JCW vs golf GTI is a better match (or GTI performance package)

@@jimjamthebananaman1 Or compare Golf_R with M140i_xdrive.

J W except the S beat the GTI

@@Garciae20 doubt it. Basic GTI has much more power and torque than the cooper S.

J W what do you mean you doubt the S beat the gti? Video says it all. Also weight, tires, and balance come into play Sorry but the gti couldn’t keep up

dachte ich mir auch 😂

The first meters of the Golf GTI are in general not really fast. We found this also remarkable so we searched the internet for answers. Apparently the slow first meters are due to the DSG gearbox. When the GTI reaches higher speeds it is indeed faster than the Cooper S. As you know, the result would be completely different if we had to do the test over a longer distance.

VW Fanboy alert

@@boostwars6912 lol just stating facts. I love minis too. I've been in a 2017 Cooper s and it's got a more darty feel then the gti. Power wise though it's not the same and this video is only comparing acceleration.

Kermit The frog I think that would not be a fair race, no? 🤔

Yeah but then against a jcw

///M5

You know the Cooper S is made by BMW, right? Better engine

@@Leozyoo yeah I know