Mini MSDOS gaming PC

Mini MSDOS gaming PC - Part 1

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3 жыл бұрын

Using PC/104 components to build a mini 486 MSDOS gaming PC with NO EMULATION!
Part 2 is here - • Mini DOS Gaming PC Par...
Thanks to Foone for the soundcard idea and just generally being awesome : / foone
MSDOS Setup Guide : www.legroom.net/howto/msdos
PC104 soundcard : circuitmaker.com/Projects/Det... (although I wouldn't try building it yet, I'm going to do a second revision to fix some issues)
ISA to PC104 adapter : circuitmaker.com/Projects/Det...
Virgin Megastore Micro Machines 2 tracks : rasteri.com/virginmm2.zip - copy these into the "construc" folder in your MM2 directory, the tracks can then be found in the construction kit

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@NielsHeusinkveld 3 жыл бұрын

And the winner of the most casual "So I designed and build a working SoundBlaster compatible soundcard'" award for 2020 is....

@LindenAshbyMK 3 жыл бұрын

just reverse engineer the shit out of this crystal chip, solder a bunch of connectors - EZ, right?

@twolechesconquick 3 жыл бұрын

bout that life

@CaptainDangeax 3 жыл бұрын

@@LindenAshbyMK surface mount chips are not that easy to solder bro'

@vandit6354 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I design and build those in my sleep!

@mzflighter6905 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainDangeax How? xD You hotair the shit out of them

@markhimself 3 жыл бұрын

You could easily sell these... I would buy one!

@szogun112 3 жыл бұрын

me too !!!

@stonebleeds 3 жыл бұрын

✋

@richardkind2794 3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Let me know when you're building them for sale.

@markhimself 3 жыл бұрын

Take my moneh! 💰

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely would buy one (or more) too!

@jody5661 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not going to lie, coming into this I figured it would be some idiot shoving a raspberry pie into a box and thinking it's hot shit. What I found was actually a really cool story and some awesome specialty and custom hardware. Really enjoyed it.

@MostlyPennyCat 3 жыл бұрын

I too but then I saw the magic words (?) pc104. I remember drooling over them 20 years ago and thinking about building the tiniest computer evar

@munxcorp 3 жыл бұрын

11:27 Build engine needs a FPU to render sloped surfaces, so Duke3d runs slow on this SX processor without one.

@matsv201 3 жыл бұрын

I seen several dx 486 industrial boards back in the day.. so they should be avalible. A 300Mhz Dx 486 should have excelent performance.

@Joshikins360 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who understands the importance of having a banana around for scale!

@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible work on this! I was aware of the PC/104 boards, but stopped looking because of the difficulty of getting sound. You may have just sold me on building my own.

@phate1489 2 жыл бұрын

Came here for some 486 action... found craft computing

@ITVOIP 3 жыл бұрын

Best DOSCEMBER video i've seen so far! I hope everyone appreciates the huge effort involved in all this. Must have taken you a long time to complete this.

@MadsonOnTheWeb 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! I couldn't agree more.

@crowsinthenose 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! This not only wins DOSCEMBER, but is one of THE best retrocomputing vids I think I ever seen. Simply awesome!

@winMANhun 3 жыл бұрын

This is literally one of the coolest things I’ve seen in IT.

@joefish6091 3 жыл бұрын

ZX Uno

@RetroSpector78 3 жыл бұрын

Just hitting pause here after you created a custom sound card pcb. Wanted to say I am really enjoying this video so far !! Wow ....

@RomaniaOverpowered 3 жыл бұрын

LGR or Druaga1 should get their hands on your videos. Or the 8bit guy. The way you made a mini 486 in 2020 is AMAZING.

@fnjesusfreak 3 жыл бұрын

I could dig this, because I bought a mini Pentium similar to LGR's mini-486 a couple years ago. xD

@LGR 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how to get my hands on a video exactly ;) But I have seen them. Love projects like this!

@TheRasteri 3 жыл бұрын

@@LGR not gonna lie when I saw the notification for your recent single-board-computer video my heart skipped a beat, I thought you'd beat me to it :)

@lucasRem-ku6eb Жыл бұрын

see them ever collab ??? too nerdy

@krank23 3 жыл бұрын

I'd definitely buy one of these, if available. Perhaps do a kickstarter? I'd back it in a second.

@JimLeonard 3 жыл бұрын

This was crazy comprehensive; I had no idea these were still available. Your level of dedication getting a sound device onto these is really admirable. Really nice work.

@matsv201 3 жыл бұрын

Those industrial boards was produced far into the 00tys

@adamengelhart5159 3 жыл бұрын

@6:48: I think the name "Wee86" is *great.* Also, KZfaq's automatic captions spell the name "wii eight six," which is kinda hilarious. Very cool project! Just subscribed.

@vlaktorbb 3 жыл бұрын

selling these soundcard board wouldn't be a bad idea at all :-)

@TheRasteri 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I don't really have the analog skill neccessary to design one good enough to sell, but I'd absolutely encourage others to do so

@Kenny-bw2cz 3 жыл бұрын

You rushed through this build as if it was easy-peasy. This is way beyond the normal geekiness..... Wow I'm impressed!

@eotsdev 3 жыл бұрын

Duke3d uses floats on sloped floors, might be the reason for the dropped framerate. Nice build!

@lucasRem-ku6eb Жыл бұрын

Where you run Duke3D on?

@DarylCook63 3 жыл бұрын

So the difference between men and boys are the price (and size) of our toys...except for the brilliant engineers who prefer a different tack. What a truly brilliant project and video! Kudos, mate!

@cocusar 3 жыл бұрын

wow, this is seriously awesome! I would like to see more about the building of that pc104 sound card! (or any other pc104 cards)

@TheRasteri 3 жыл бұрын

I'll do a follow-up with more details, as I haven't really finished the PC104 card yet (if you look closely there's some components bodged onto it to make it work :) )

@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын

This editing was really tight, your methodology really well thought out, your build satisfying! What a great thing to get recommended by the Google bot.

@CZpersi Жыл бұрын

What a blast from the past! We used to run Win95 on our 486 machine and boot to DOS for gaming.

@adamsfusion 3 жыл бұрын

This was my favorite DOSCember video. That was a super neat idea.

@MartinPaoloni 3 жыл бұрын

You won DOScember... This is unbelievably cool! And thanks for open sourcing your work!

@9wattcat 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. I've been in the same mini 486 rabbit hole for quite some time.

@benjaminvanderjagt Жыл бұрын

OH MY GOSH! This is the greatest thing! I BEG YOU, make these and SELL them! Even just as a parts-kit, they would sell well, and as a completed set with FreeDOS you could make a bunch out of each one. Like many others, I have no love for the PlayStation 7 or the XBox-One-Zero-X-2.50. I *do* have love for an old PC. THIS would make me happy, and that matters!

@Destide 3 жыл бұрын

Who remembers their first 1gb drive? Seemed like an infinite amount of space back then.

@twolechesconquick 3 жыл бұрын

I was a tech at circuit city early 2000s and I remember this photographer/videographer came in and wanted somthing installed he had a terabyte and all of us gathered around in awe of his like 20 harddrives jammed into this massive custome case hahaha I remember thinking there is no way I could ever fill this even with all my games , back ups ,rips, etc haahahah now I install like 3 games in a terabyte hahaha

@sonkorinda7312 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 42gb hard drive(win98 installed) and a pentium 3, some ram, (idk how much) culd it run win 10

@UNSCPILOT 2 жыл бұрын

And now 1TB drives are starting to feel small fast. Amusingly I still have a 900 megabyte iPod shuffle from ages ago though that still works, entirely eclipsed by my Fiio M9 with 500 gig SD but it's still cute

@NoMoreCandies Жыл бұрын

haha mine was the cheapest possible : a 5.25" ( yes, 5.25" ) Quantum Bigfoot hdd . huge and slow but... 1gb!

@Colt45hatchback Жыл бұрын

Yeah i thought all my christmas's came at once, was rummaging through a hard waste collection pile out front of a house when i was 9 or 10 and found a pair of western digital caviar 1gb drives in the pile, and amazingly a new in box quantum fireball 3.5gb drive. I was like "oh my god i can have all my games on the computer at once" turns out the wd drives were faulty hence thrown out, but one had jazz jackrabbit on it which i copied over to my old connor 512mb drive while it was still working (they worked fine for about 10 minutes runtime then seemed to start clicking and getting read errors) but then i put all the stuff onto the quantum drive and had the connor as the master with just windows 95 on it and a few small games. Was absolutely amazing to be able to not have to uninstall something in order to put another game on

@HrLBolle 3 жыл бұрын

I always find it great if KZfaqrs are considerate and include metric measurements for us metric heads

@mangothedutchie7462 3 жыл бұрын

And just like that. A new community of dos gamers was born. Really amazing job!

@NZ2Pepper 3 жыл бұрын

This came in my recommended and I am glad it did. This is also the first time I have seen DOS on a network. I had read about it, but never seen it work. THANKS!

@psychoticgiraffe 3 жыл бұрын

please sell these, find a way to make 1000 of them, they'll sell.

@_Digitalguy 3 жыл бұрын

I am sure many 40 year old people like me would pay up to a $1000 to buy something as cool as this

@psychoticgiraffe 3 жыл бұрын

@@_Digitalguy yes

@windwalkerrangerdm 3 жыл бұрын

@@_Digitalguy Well, not 1.000 but I can safely say that I would cough up anything up to 500.

@enilenis 3 жыл бұрын

I built a decked out 486 just a few years ago. Since the temptation is high to go for the best retro components available, the pricetag ended up being well over $1K. Cache chips, RAM, sound, wavetable, network, I/O, video, POD83 CPU, Gotek Floppy, flash IDE, case, PSU, cables. Hundred dollars here, hundred there. Eventually it's ends up costing a fortune. But that's kind of the whole point of irrational nostalgia. To build things that could only be dreamt of back in the day.

@jolex_nerd8132 3 жыл бұрын

finaly someone that thinks like me...

@SimonJ57 3 жыл бұрын

With windows 3.1 you can have Castle of the Winds, in your living room! My earliest Rogue-like.

@TastyBusiness 3 жыл бұрын

This is spectacularly implemented. Well done!

@otg-on-tech-and-gear 3 жыл бұрын

It just dazzles me to imagine how much work and time you spent on this video! Its dope!!!

@SUCRA 3 жыл бұрын

I love how casual you sound about this AMAZING mini retro gaming pc you invented. Awesome video and accomplishment.

@ms-dosman7722 3 жыл бұрын

That's really cool! And the fact that you made the extra effort to build your own freaking soundcard makes it really really cool. Next to missing the fpu, do these boards come with any L2 cache?

@Vokabre 3 жыл бұрын

And here i thought that period computers by Unisys were small. Very impressed with the concept and the result!

@SomePotato 3 жыл бұрын

A PC104 soundcard? Sounds like a fun project to build in 2021! Great work!

@mrsadrobot 3 жыл бұрын

I had an industrial mini 486 a lot like this a few years ago and happily played DOS games for a few days. But, because it didn't have a sound card option it ended up shelved. What I didn't do is design and build a sound card module for the thing, that's next level DOS dedication!

@justz00t48 Жыл бұрын

That tip to use PCBs for the front and back cover is pretty great. I never would've thought of that and it really opens up options for a wide range of projects.

@thesmokingcap 3 жыл бұрын

The amount of work that went into this! Amazing haha, so cool to see this unfold

@StevenS757 3 жыл бұрын

oh man, I really wish these were available for purchase.

@RobsonRoverRepair 3 жыл бұрын

I'm absolutely in love with this. About to build a retro mini pc myself, but it will be emulation based as I've no where near the technical ability seen here. Fantastic work.

@davidinark 3 жыл бұрын

Truly one if the coolest builds I’ve seen! I would buy one premade in a heartbeat as I do not possess the skills nor equipment to do all the soldering. Great video!

@retronoobtech8551 3 жыл бұрын

the only time I saw a pc with this form factor was one of those boxes to attach to the TV. They must be very rare

@billfusionenterprise 3 жыл бұрын

not really, just not well known, like Mbed

@zenitpro 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm amazed! I wish I had all this type of skill to build things myself, I've always wanted solutions that do not exist - yet. Thanks for sharing.

@johnshek8727 3 жыл бұрын

This is so amazing, im blown away and so envious of people who cant find what theyre looking for and build it, you sir are amazing, and a great great engineer. I loved this so much.

@spladam3845 3 жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC build, what a brilliant project, your DIY approach to so much of it was very impressive, this got you an instant subscribe. Also, reaching out to Foone Turing was the smart call, I hope he's seen this build, he would love it.

@c.b.1378 3 жыл бұрын

You should get a deal to mass-produce these! Look at the popularity of TheC64 and other retro computers. I think there are many others who had the same nostalgic feelings as you for PCs from late eighties/early ninethies, and who would love one of these!

@connercole100 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, glad to find one of these videos from a guy that sounds local !!

@roanhemmings6107 Жыл бұрын

Congrats, your Homestar Runner wallpaper just got you a subscriber.

@TheRasteri Жыл бұрын

great jorb!

@MadsonOnTheWeb 3 жыл бұрын

This is the PC MINI we deserve

@TheBinaryAvenger 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to a parts list and build guide. I think a lot of us retro computer enthusiasts would love to put one of these together especially considering it’s getting harder and more expensive to build an old legit 90s pc anymore. Also as great as vms and emulation is we love our bare metal! Thank you so much for sharing.

@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын

Just for the network tutorial alone I have to give a big thanks. But the project itself is amazing. And I really love how dense the ports are on the finished system. There is a certain charme to machines that fully utilise the size they got available.

@mattscomp 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible. You made a DOS NUC! I wish I could just build a sound card.. I am in awe. So very well done!

@JamonyorkeRecords 3 жыл бұрын

Wow!! This video blows my mind!!!! What a great job you did!!

@CTFC-GERMANY 3 жыл бұрын

I am totally blown away. Thats great!!!!

@teslastellar 3 жыл бұрын

Great job making the sound card.

@Damaniel3 3 жыл бұрын

Now I have to go buy a PC/104 CPU board before the secret gets out. I've been wanting a small DOS compatible PC for a while (mainly as a way to test games I develop), and this seems like the easiest way to get what I want. Thanks for the excellent video!

@ZeroWalker26 3 жыл бұрын

Man that´s just brilliant and awesome little PC build.

@draggonhedd 3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY my kind of thing, LOve this stuff.

@TheFalschspieler 3 жыл бұрын

I just have to say I really like this guy's voice and how he explains. So casual, humorous... Subbed! Thank you KZfaq for this recommendation.

@stephanevermette145 3 жыл бұрын

OK. You blew me away when you said you made your own PC/104 SB/Adlib card! WOW

@trocitosdefresa 3 жыл бұрын

Damn... You deserve a lot more views, you are a quality youtuber. Amazing job!

@jimmydansbo7847 3 жыл бұрын

All I want for christmas is ... this :)

@funxiobolic 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, amazing build, great job!

@Whipster-Old 3 жыл бұрын

The name is absolutely perfect, you legend. Love it. My first PC was a Highscreen 486 SX from PC World in Northampton. It was DOA on Christmas Day, so when we returned it on boxing Day, my dad screamed at the manager and I played the devastated son. We got a free upgrade to a 486 DX, more RAM and an EA games collection. Badass.

@CommodoreGreg 3 жыл бұрын

REALLY cool build sir!

@DerekSpeareDSD 3 жыл бұрын

builds retro pc and designs sound card from scratch...respect...

@randywatson8347 3 жыл бұрын

Still got my tiny Unisys CWD4002 PC. The smallest 80486DX from the mid 90's. Then few years later, the even smaller Toshiba Libretto CT70 with color lcd screen which is a portable. But I went for the PI4 build, which uses a mounted usb floppydrive working in dosbox. Fit's very well in my custom enclosure.

@BadBunny 3 жыл бұрын

I think this is the most wonderful thing I have ever seen in the world of pc retro gaming!

@joefil1991 3 жыл бұрын

This is incredible. Once this gets completely fleshed out and perfected, I'm definitely interested in purchasing an assembled unit if the price is sensible.

@l3chevalier 3 жыл бұрын

I was a developer in a embedded systems company that used PC104 boards to run a Speed Trap Camera system, I've worked on this project. Awesome to see it for real fun use! =D Nice video, congrats!!

@rille47 3 жыл бұрын

I´m amazed, ata boy, phreakin´n fantastic good job Sir.

@bartomatic 3 жыл бұрын

Here's some engagement man, another cracking upload.

@DosGamerMan 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic project. Great implementation!

@grimreboot 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent work sir!

@vkuolema79 3 жыл бұрын

What an excellent build!

@ben_jammin242 3 жыл бұрын

2:21 Liked. Subscribed. Excited! Dude, you're a beast of a man. Thanks for the content.

@EmilianoFraga 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing work, congratulations

@akhurash 3 жыл бұрын

This is awesome. Thank you for making this video!

@z80dad61 3 жыл бұрын

This is amazing! I had just put dos on a hp thin client and the usb sticks would not work properly trying the multiple sticks trick had to clone the install from a virtual pc install just simply awesome!

@beejayOne 3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I did some time ago. But the problem with thin clients is the missing ISA-Sound. The mostly use AC‘97, which is incompatible with MS-DOS :(

@z80dad61 3 жыл бұрын

@@beejayOne I built a covox, I want to build a DSS compatibility plug as well but that's more work 🙂

@Chris-yc3mm Жыл бұрын

Really wish these were for sale. Would buy one in a heartbeat.

@gothfather8741 Жыл бұрын

This is great! Excellent video !

@aetherspoon 3 жыл бұрын

Daaaaaang. I was thinking about trying to build a mini PC similar to what LGR did (only smaller, as I found the right parts), but this... daaaaaang. If only I could actually solder, this would be my solution to the mini-DOS PC dilemma. What I really want is a mini-8088, mini-486, and mini-P3 for early-DOS, late-DOS, and Win9x eras.

@ThiagoPaes_mrprompt 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome project!!!! Congrats.

@Toreonify 3 жыл бұрын

Finally somebody that have time and passion to build a proper mini-PC! I am so tired of emulation boxes) They don't suck, but they lacking charm that building a PC or modifying a real game console gives you) Great stuff!

@rkornilo 3 жыл бұрын

Great work! That was fun.

@nimaabachianghasemi1378 Жыл бұрын

There are 1 million of 486 build video on KZfaq. This video beat them all together.

@santasl 3 жыл бұрын

Impressive! Thanks for letting me learn that old hardware is still buyable and how "easy" it is to get something like this up and running. Yeah the "I design my own soundcard" isnt really an easy part, but I mean the BOM didnt seem too high.

@EshmesVid Ай бұрын

Looks nice. Bet the amount of work is priceless

@damjanmozetic 3 жыл бұрын

Inspiring build! Congrats!

@SuperNicktendo 3 жыл бұрын

This is what I've been looking for - I tried to build a pentium 2 and it just wouldn't work and it was bulky. I think I found my next new project. Thanks really for finding this and detailing the process.