Also happy holidays everyone

We stan eirlin

Moonkitties new name is MoonEirlin

*begins foaming at the mouth*

U R SO BASED. ROSETAIL SUPERIORITY

I assumed she was a hopeless romantic sorta. (albeit an annoying one but still)

@@klltx2001 I agree, on how I interpreted it was that she was genuinely happy for Bluefur (Bluestar) and she couldn’t contain herself. I don’t think she had a malicious intent with the gossip but I can see it on how it could be annoying.

Same here, she’s like, the one girl in class who would see two people talking and assume they were getting married, not in a mean way just like, over excitedly lol

Exactly she was that one really extroverted person with the very introverted friend

Exacty, most people know a person like that so I think it's kinda fun that they gave us a character like that, since in later books there is almost no gossiping, or clan life in general just existing from plotpoint to plotpoint. And her not getting a mate might be just showing that she is so excited about all that stuff because she longs for that kind of relationship and experience herself but can't have it since no cat falls for her.

I’m stealing this headcanon thanks

I support this!

one of my fav chimera headcanons is squilf having a fluffy tail due to chimerism

We don't need Realistic generation coat it's just a book so creative as you can.

@@KebleStone I'm not disputing that. It really is just a fun kids' book series about cats and I think the writers can make the coats as nonsensical as they want. This is just a scientific explanation for the sticklers in this fandom who insist on realism so that everybody can be happy with Rosetail's wacky color.

Omg knowledge! /pos I had no idea these are a thing :0

@@snowycavern Yeah, they're super cool! I love nerding out about cat genetics.

YES. That’s a great idea!

Yeah, always made me feel weird how easily he was forgiven.

I agree, he was always forgiven, despite time and time again doing bad things and he never got a GIGANTIC consequence (from what I recall, correct me if I'm wrong) and I think he really had potential to develop more and have more interesting plot points

GET THIS TO THE TOP OF THE COMMENTS

blackstar is my favorite cjaracter for this reason. he has a lot of potential and was dealt a horrible deal with his father. if youve read yellowfangs secret you might remember how Blizzardfang, Blackkits dad was completely distant from him, and personally i believe thats why he was so easy to manipulate time and time again. idk im probably thinking this into this too much

Yass! Her design is so cool! I also love unrealistic designs!

I love rosetails design! It’s so pretty ❤

Rosetail x Bluefur supremacy 🙏

it could be explained pretty easily as a dilute tortoiseshell

@@caitlinw8351 Or somatic mutation.

But blackstars a good character!! Definitely a good guy!!! 100%!!!

pretty pretty kitty

I think this is why i love her so much… and cause her personality is so very different from mine

Yeah! I can absolutely see her being a dilute (grey) calico or torbie/torbico. Ive seen torbie cats with distinct patches of alternate colors

yeah hurts that she never had a mate tbh,,, bi rosetail my fav hc now

@@xevilgothgirlx as a kid i remember assuming she was related to redtail since they were both cats with ginger tails. Kind of weird that with such a distinctive trait they WERENT related tbh

@@crystelthewolf yk what im now saying shes his mom idc haha

Omg she’s literally bi herself *dies*

I LOVE THIS

Out of all the cats in all the books, Rosetail is definitely one of them

I mean... What do you think food poisoning usually does to you...

I'm sobbing The sass from moonkitti 💀

yes he is the bestest boy

To be fair, he should have been upset with Bluefur. After all, she was (at the time) breaking the Warrior Code, by seeing someone from a different clan, which they had been taught meant that she was unreliable.

Sunnyfall made a video about Thrushpelt that you should see! Although I would like Moonkitti to also cover him, for now that works.

@@jeremiahbristow7609 to be fair he didn’t know that the father was from another clan or not unless i’m remembering wrong

@@neet_. I also think he didn't know, Bluefur never said to him that OakHeart was the father I think.

Me too. It seemed logical at the time.

I just thought they were related in some way

I never even considered that and it's goddamn incredible holy shit

If you write that could you put a link to it here that sounds great

That's what I was thinking! Chimeras make cat designs so much more fun (and still technically genetically-accurate for the fandom sticklers.)

Can those happen? If they can then that is neat and I am so going to snatch this for oc designs.

@@Floofies Yes!! Those can. There was recently a dilute/non-dilute chimera maine coon circulating the internet!! She's a red(non-dilute) and blue(dilute) chimera!

Except it's not. Even if you ignore what they probably meant by saying "a cat", Rosetail's idea of a mate is one that can produce kits like every other character in the series. It's not homophobic to note that the Warrior Cats society thrives off the concept of a life and death cycle, requiring a need for kits constantly to support the numbers and survival of the clans. It would be incredibly hard to justify cats being of different sexualities when it's something not inherent in cats specifically. I don't mind cats like Jake and Tallstar being cannonically mates, because it's obvious that Tallstar had feelings for Jake, but in another mindset Jake later went on to father two litters of kittens so I guess Jake didn't care the same way about Tallstar that the windclan leader did. I wonder why they didn't just make a seperate cat. Weird.

@@madisonlange8053 I don’t think this was you’re intention but this makes it sound like you’re only ok with male cats being canonically gay lol. There’s actually been cases of homosexuality in cats, but either way the OP was just talking about head cannons so it’s kind of hard to argue against that.

@@madisonlange8053 I mean canonically there's also ravenpaw and Barley. But I want to say, while Rosetail is excited about kits (namely Bluestars) I don't think there was any indication that she was desprate to have her own if that was the case she would have found her own mate. Instead the path she chose was to care for all the kits in the clan, we know just before her death she is the guard of the kits den and she seems to take that role very seriously. Also the cats of warrior cats are barely cats. If they were they wouldn't be getting into large scale battles, have a singular mate or do much more then hunting and sleeping, maybe a little playing and grooming. Plus all the males wouldn't be in a clan, they'd all be rogues. Hell even in the made up warrior cats universe there are quite a few female cats who do not mate, like hollyleaf, firefern, freckelwish, other freckelwish, cloudmist, majority of medicine cats and of course Rosetail herself. You actually see a high prevalence of feral or farm female cats in reality form what many speculate being lifepartners between another female cat in there clowder. These two cats will still mate with males but they will come back together and raise there children together, typical staying together for life, grooming each other and sleeping next to each other, grieving if one dies. If that's not more of a human equivalate of a couple then the one night stand male and female cats have I don't know what is. Still I find it a dangerous game to ascribe too many human attributes to animals, they all have there own way of life, that would be foreign to us.

@hyena1373 The cats are personified, but that doesn't make them not cats. I'm also extremely surprised people still ship Barley and Ravenpaw due to all the predator callouts in warrior cats, as Ravenpaw was an apprentice when he met Barley, who was an older cat. I also genuinely think of Ravenpaw and Barley as a strong friendship, as there isn't any evidence they love eachother on a deeper level than maybe even a family dynamic. Jake and Tallstar do give off those vibes however and the author confirms she thought of them as mates.

@@Alexis-tx5en where? Because I mentioned one pairing of cats? I mentioned Tallstar and Jake as they're very well known.

I think she mightve had post-partum depression, and of course losing her kit so soon after did not help.

Just because she was hurt doesn't excuse her actions. She was a good partner but a negligent parent. One doesn't have to exist without the other

i read this as “can you talk about die hard?”

@@billcipher8645 exactly that’s what I didn’t like about her, she 100% was a neglectful parent even if it wasn’t intentional, and I feel like Tallstar had the right to be jealous when he saw his half siblings get the childhood he never had because of that tbh

Yes hard agree!! She's sort of similar to Sparkpelt, in that she suffered hard with depression, but the fandom's misogyny presents her as an awful, unreasonable person (not trying to excuse her bad parenting, she is a morally grey character)

Her tail would have to be cream/pale ginger and not ginger to be a gray cream tortoiseshell

It's just what Moonkitti image her look like we don't need Realistic gen thing.

yeah because they really look like they could've been related

Ah yes, my favorite arc, The New Phophecy

There’s a difference between someone being born disabled and learning to be a warrior and someone who becomes disabled in the prime of their healthy young life and having to rest and lack exercise for a while and then relearn how to do everything BUT, I agree, cinderpelt didn’t necessarily have to become a medicine cat or stop warrior training completely. She can hunt, and all she would need is a buddy or two in battle like brightheart and cloudtail. That’s a good example of someone who becomes disabled and relearns warrior skills!!

Deadfoot had a dead front paw he could still slightly walk on or hold up. Cinderpelt had a twisted back leg that she could only drag around post injury. These two things are not the same.

@@limabatz2990 Yeah but Deadfoot still limped??? She should’ve never been forced to be a Medicine Cat just because of her disability. Same with Jayfeather and Alderheart

@@brolylook And the fact that Briarlight was also still a warrior too; it just makes no sense that Cinder had to become a medicine cat just because of her simple disability

@@brolylook This is a good point, and it's my main argument for why Jayfeather would have made a fine warrior. Longtail retiring, if not forced, makes sense to me. After all, he was one of the older warriors by the time of his blindness. However, Jayf here was born blind, he doesn't have to get used to it. He can already get around fine by the start of Po3. A bit unrelated, but hey, it's important to me.

And wouldn't the dilute version of dark ginger be a pinkish orangey color? _it all makes sense now_