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Hot take but Hesperia/Reverse Gabriel was the best character in this special hands down. It’s so refreshing to have an adult in this series not be stupid, inept or a jerk. He’s a good character but he’s also flawed and made mistakes which makes him so much more dimensional and interesting. I hope he appears in more specials, he has so much more potential for interesting interactions with his own son and Chat Noir. But yeah Hesperia slayed in this episode.

I’m sorry, but Emo Adrien calling Shadybug “cockroach” is too funny

Claw Noir just TANKED a Cataclysm something that not even our Cat Noir could do or even Monarch, guy is really the real deal

I'm glad this lived up to the hype. Shady and her constant weapons was fun and Claw with his puns and shenanigans was good. The emotional moments also were great. The other dimension where Scarabella and Kitty noire were just the heroes made me happy

Reverse Gabriel is the only reverse character with a different color palette. He also seems to be the only character with a completely opposite personality.

Ladybiquity (Ladybug kamikotized) had the same power as Ubiquity. She was able to manifest herself through all her counterparts in all the universes, being able to be everywhere at the same time. If you pay close attention, in Scarabella's universe, she is just Ubiquity, since the Ladybug Miraculous is with Scarabella. In the last universe that was showed, that was Lady Noire, so she was Ladybiquity but with the Cat Miraculous instead of the Ladybug one.

We NEED a BetterFly spinoff series! Like seriously! Complex characters with more to explore, a serious world with great opportunities for lore and storytelling, it’s literally AMAZING!!

I think the best bet on who The Supreme is, is Master Fu. Who used Gimmi to make himself the only one able to use the Supreme power of Gimmi. I also think the Guardians existed in the reverse world just like ours, cause the miraculous WERE created to help humanity. But Master Fu used Gimmi to "erase" the Guardians and make the world what it is now

They fr had to deal with risk, strike back, monarch with all the miraculous twice, their alternative selves, go and return from London 2 times and defeat a villain at the beginning of risk on the same day.

Loved this special, makes me even more hyped for Season 6. Also, it gives additonal context for why Marinette took such a risk turning off her powers when trying to convince Gabriel in the S5 finale; she did the exact same thing for Shadybug and it worked. Still naíve of her, but if it worked once and resulted in the best possible outcome, ofc she's gonna feel confident enough to try it again.

Thomas has said that there's a possibility for us to explore the reverse universe and the return of the reverse characters. There won't be a spin-off since it is too expensive, but maybe we will see them return in later seasons (like how it happened with NY and Shangai) or in another special. There's a theory that says that the Supreme was the one appearing before Cerise at the end of season 5.

15:37: In the french version, he says "La Boulangère!" which means "the baker (girl)". That's why she turned around and asked him, if she knows her. I was wondering why she was turning around and asking him and1 if it was because of his dumb cute "Adrien loves Marinette" face (don't get me wrong, I loved it, but it makes more sense in the french version). 24:37 - 24:39 "I too was relentlessly bullied by Chloé!" Best quote! I laughed so much at this. 🤣🤣🤣

I actually got chills when shadybug said lucky charm but it had no usual sound like our ladybug makes when doing a lucky charm

I saw so many people saying this was the best special yet. And they were right. It was amazing

Not only was this the best Special to date, but there were also just enough stakes and content to make it feel okay seeing this after the Last Day. It was satisfying to finally see the Butterfly Miraculous being used for its intended purpose. I think we are finally in a position where we can wait for Season 6.

For everyone who’s wondering this Special takes place after Season 5 Episode 3(Destruction), and before Season 5 Episode 4(Jubilation)

27:47 = Miraculous, tales of scarabella and kitty noir 28:06 = Miraculous, tales of ladybug and cat noir: the anime 28:16 = Miraculous, tales of mister bug and lady noire Hoped that helped!

Dr Strange to Christine: "I love you in every universe" Thomas Astruc to Chloe: "I hate you in every universe"

Yeah I agree, that ending part with Alya/Marinette also came off kinda...romantic to me too lol

The diary. To be fair, the diary is in a box with a trap, Shadybug got it bc she used super strenght to break the box.

Literally the best Miraculous World special I love it sm

I clicked faster than adrien could say shes just a friend

If you notice at the end, in the Scarabella/Kitty Noire Timeline, Akumatized/Kimikotized? Marinette doesn’t have the Ladybug power. That’s because that’s not the main Marinette. It’s that universe’s Marinette. She doesn’t have the Ladybug power, since Alya has it. In the Mister Bug Timeline, Akumatized/Kimikotized Marinette has the Cat power. You can notice, she has features from her Lady Noire outfit. That’s because it’s that universe’s Marinette, who’s Lady Noire. Same thing goes for the anime and comic Timelines. Those are those universe’s Ladybug and Cat Noir.

Gabriel in the alternate universe was a treasure and an angel sent from Heaven.

this was honestly my favorite special… when i tell u i was sobbing on my living room floor at 4am im not kidding

This was the Miraculous version of “Phineas and Ferb 2nd Dimension”. Both were epic and we want more of both

I'm glad you enjoyed the special as much as the majority of the fandom did! And since Thomas had stated that there may be possibilities of their alternate selves coming back in a future episode, I have a kinda crazy theory related to the reveal Shadybug and Claw Noir's identities got revealed to each other in OUR Ladybug and Cat Noir's universe, so I think their reveal would happen in Shadybug and Claw Noir's universe instead, it's so fascinating to think about it don't you think?🌸

The supreme is believed to be Master Fu since he’s the one who gave a miraculous to Adrien and Marinette

I like how you're loving Shadybug more because she can summon more weapons.

What I find crazy is that this special happening the night of Destruction meaning that in the span of ONE DAY we had the events of Risk,Strike Back,Evolution, The first Part of Multiplication, Destruction, and now this Special ending that night which I find crazzy this is anime levels of arcs in the span of one day

i like the fact that shadybug and black claw are not trully evil but rather desperate to have a better life, it gives them more personalities than a classic bad for the sake of being bad

Best special ever!!! One of the best things Miraculous has ever done ❤

Adrien is working with his father and he doesn't even know it now so I guess you can say they're bonding

I always thought that if the butterfly was used for good it would be useful as a support tool. Especially helpful when amplifying other miraculous powers. I also like that butterfly causes butterflies kamikos. In Japanese it means “little goddess.” The opposite of akuma which means “demon” or “evil spirit.” Betterfly most likely calls them that in memory of his wife.

the scenes of Shadybug and Marinette's mother made me cry sm 💔

My theory is that The Supreme is Master Fu and his origin is the same but after using the Peacock miraculous to make feast, he begins to feel a large hunger for power instead of remorse for what he did and as a guardian and knowing that "too many miraculous at once could make you lose your mind" he would share that power for evil but still have control over everyone

I feel the need to say this but the English dub omitted a line, when Shadybug detransforms in front of Adrien and he gets his flashback, he says to her "the baker girl?" and that's why she turns around and says "You now me?"

15:44-I knew from the start it would come to this,since unlike their good counterparts,they have no moral restrain to use Gimme. 19:39-Speaking of villains slowly destroyed by magic,Monarch finally shows up! 20:10-Well,Monarch is also stronger than Betterfly,so plot armor will probably need to kick in! 21:27-If they found out a Gabriel is Betterfly by doing this,can't they connect to dots to figure out the other Gabriel is Monarch? 24:26-Well,we have already felt it all with Monarch! 25:50-The costume changes when the personality of the user changes. 26:15-Meanwhile: Monarch:What about me? Betterfly:🖕

The fact that Nino and Alya are his sidekicks- OH MY GOSH I LOVE THIS

I forgot to say that the characters always talked about the Supreme but we never saw his silhouette or him hiding in the shadows, like Sherabah in the Aladdin remake. The producers really hate the '' Show don't tell! '' method or else they would use it in this special. The positive side is that it keep the character mysterious. I hope we'll learn more about the Supreme in season 6. If this villain is created then enver developped, that's dissapointing ☹

The Guardians becoming the Supreme is definitely a good theory. Imagine if it was Master Fu, though. Single-handedly brought an end to the Guardians, had full access to the whole Miraculous set, probably allied with that world's Nazi equivalents to gain more power. He'd be absolutely terrifying as a villain

This really was the best special they've done, the animation was great, the story was spectacular and consistent. I would rather watch it a hundred more times then rewatch the previous two even once more

i love Nooroo. I'm glad he's happy

There is just so much to say about this special! First off, it was so much better than I thought it would be. It made me really nervous at first, with the cringe-worthy names of alternate universe Ladybug and Cat Noir, and with them staying in Paris, but it was amazing! I loved pretty much everything about this special. I also liked that, however briefly, Adrien showed fear over his power. I know Hawk Moth is evil, but murder is wrong, especially for superheroes, and I felt like the show never truly covered the possible trauma Adrien should've gone through after cataclysming a person rather than an object. I still think there's more to be said about that, but with Hawk Moth's death in the show, I doubt they'll cover it again. I also loved Adrien and Claw Noir's talk. Everything we knew about Adrien was more exposition from other characters. This was the first time we got to hear from Adrien himself how he handled his mother's death, and that he truly is well-adjusted enough to accept the tragedy. Ultimately, it was amazing to truly see the differences in the characters. A lot of times, despite how important the multiverse is to franchises, they never do it justice. This really showed how important circumstances are. It's interesting that multiverse Gabriel could handle his wife's death better and become a hero while his son can't and becomes a villain. (I love that Alya is a superhero in every world, however)! And it's cute that Adrien is the one in love with Marinette in the other universe. I wouldn't mind seeing more of these characters. Since this Gabriel is still alive, it might be fun to see a father-son Betterfly/Claw Noir reveal. Final notes: I also was obsessed with the red streak in Marinette's hair. I think it looks even better with her new Ladybug-esque costume. And I'm a huge Adrienette fan, but I've always lowkey shipped Marinette and Alya!

This special really show how a good writing and taking some time to dedicate to the project really makes a difference After this i have more hope for season 6 2025 could not come anytime sooner

Btw in case people didn't noticed The alternet universe from Scarrabella, Marinet has only the akuma powers And the last one Marinet was lady noir combined with the akuma😍🔥 (kinda obvious cause we see Mr. Bug next to her😌🤷🏽‍♂️)

I love zamber being hype about Shadybug with a sword or gun

One of the things I liked about this special is that it shows that Marinette and Ayla aren't best friends. They're sisters.

The scene of Adrien and the Noir Claw is simply magnificent and touching. It was great to understand how Adrien had grown up and was able to build his own life without living in the past.❤🥹

I loved Shadybug too! She was so interesting! And girl, when she threw a pair of high heels like a couple of ninja stars?! Holy woah! She's dope, I love her. And can't forget about Gabriel... I feel like that is his true self we saw. Thats who he really is underneath the pain and grief and greed. So It was awesome getting that. I do wish we had gotten this special earlier, as it fits in the timeline, but I guess it is rewarding to see BetterFly after Gabriel's sacrifice. To see that it wasn't just for his wife that he could be selfless, he was always capable of more. Anyway, if this special is a preview on what the upcoming season is going to be like, I am so stoked for the next season!

16:20 My initial guess was the mage who originally created the Miraculous as seen in issue 2 of "Miraculous Adventures". But since according to the wiki "Miraculous Adventures" isn't canon, a member of what is the Order of the Guardians in the bad world (probably Su-Han or Master Fu) seems more likely. I do think it's a singular guy though since Betterfly, Shady and Claw refer to the Supreme as "he" (singular and male).

Shadybug: lucky charms actually dangerous weaponry, especially gun-related. Zamber: 💅✨ celebrates like crazy 🥳🎊

😂😂😂😂 emily dying is the uncle ben of the miraculous universe

I like the name 'betterfly' but i would name him 'viceroy' which is a type of butterfly

I believe The Supreme is a single individual since Betterfly refers to The Supreme as "he". It think he is an evil version of Master Fu. My theory is that his unhappiness living at the Guardians' Temple, in the Shadybug universe, turned into anger and malice. He may have stolen the Miraculous and became the Supreme, single-handedly overthrowing them by combining their power.

I really want a spin off their world seems so interesting 😭 I want to see their world I hope we do get a spinoff also is Fu The supreme🤯

Shadybug: I'll call myself Ladybug. Please don't!😅 LITTERLY any other name. But not ladybug! Trust me! You do not want that name!

SHADYBVUG LOOKS SO GOOOD LIKE HER DESIGN IS SO PRETTY

28:55 Marinete's diferent outfit on Mister Bug and Lady Noire universe is cause Marinette Ubiquity outfit was merged with Lady Noir's. In our universe Marinete's Ubiquity was merged with Ladybug outfit with spots on it. And in Scarabella and Kitty noir universe Marinette outfit was just Ubiquity cause she wasn't the holder of any muraculous in that world

This special instantly became my favorite! I always hoped that they would one day do a multiverse take on the Miraculous Ladybug series, I especially love that it's the classic trope of a universe where the good guys have evil alternate counterparts!

I always felt that Marrinette kept such a detailed diary because she is the guardian of the box. That way she has a way to remember who she is/was when she inevitably loses her memories when she chooses a new guardian

Y'know... After this special, I'm starting to realize why Marc has been in the background so much, besides real life factors. Cause if bro was in the main supporting cast, it'd be joever

Better Question Marinette should’ve asked is Why didn’t Master Fu tell me about Parallel Universes ? Because that’s something a Miraculous Guardian should know about.

I loved all the new characters in This😍 all the designs were amazing too!

I'll be honest... I would not be mad if we got a whole spin-off series with them. Especially since it could mean not only keeping Keith in the show, but a version of Gabriel and Adrien that actually have a good relationship. I'm also 100% assuming that the Supreme has something to do with whatever that THING at the end of last season was with Lyla. I'm also assuming the Supreme is either their Lyla, or their Fu.

Not gonna lie. I was very worried going into this special based one the state current show. But, surprisingly, dare I say miraculously. It was really good! Great job to the team, especially the animators

There is definitely a possibility of shadybug and clawnoir returning in the later seasons!

Zamber: Admiring and fan-girling over Shadybug, thinking being bad is way better than being good😍 Me:.... which side are you on....? Lol😅

By far the best Miraculous World Special imo. SO GOOD. WOW. It blew my expectations away.

29:11 I’m pretty sure it was just Ladynoire, but she was akumatized yo be able to go to different universes just like our ladybug. I think it’s essentially just our akumatized Ladybug, but with the black cat miraculous instead lol

Maybe, as you say, The Supreme is the complete order of the guardians since in the intro we can see the Miraculous box from the reverse world with the symbol that Tikki and Plagg have over their mouths, which appears many times in the intro and the one that appears at Marinette's (reverse) feet when she summons Gimmi

Weird thought: That mention of 8 billion parallel worlds kinda just gave a bunch of fanfic writers license to claim canon status on so many of the wild "what if" scenarios that they've explored. Some fanfics have twisted the lore in strange ways (or were ignorant of lore not yet revealed in the show when they wrote their fanfics) but if there's any arguable way, if there's any stretch of the imagination, to get there from some deviation in the timeline they'll latch onto it.

Ladybug: "The Multiverse is REAL!?"

damn zhongli he can really sing

I loved all the specials so its hard to say. But i think This is my favourite😊 there were so so many new designs in this too😂

23:15 "A gun or a hammer" Shadybug:" yeah sure here you go"

Shadybug and emo Marinette my favorite character❤

I think Kamiko is suppose to be god or Angel butterfly like akuma devil butterfly.

Supreme is one person and its a man since betterfly called him «an evil being» so he might not even be human. I think its most likely fu. But the powers isnt guardian related since the symbol is different. Its a power he holds himself. Shadybug also said he would spare one of them so his goal may be to destroy everyone😳 Maby Fu turned to the dark side after killing everyone in the temple as a kid. Maby he didnt have a Marianne like How shadybug didnt have an Alya

By the way.. since Ladybug got akumatized into Ubiquity in the end (Lady Ubuquity bug). She was present in all universes, because that is what Ubiquity means.. to be omnipresent.. so she's just everywhere at once.. in the universe with Scarabella and Kitty Noire, she was there but without the Ladybug Miraculous, because she's not the holder of that miraculous in that universe, so she's just Ubiquity there.. and in the comic and PV version she's still Lady Ubiquity bug and in the last AU, it's Lady Noire, but as Ubiquity, so Lady Ubiquity Noire because no matter the universe... no matter what miraculous marinette has or not, she would always be Ubiquity and she would always be the one to stop Monarch, because that was the goal and she was present in every universe Monarch tried going into in that time. This reaction was amazing though. I'm happy that Adrien and Claw Noir bonded over Nino and Emilie. I'm happy that Shadybug and Marinette bonded over how they should deal with things for the greater good. This was absolutely amazing.

I just realized that in the scarabella and kitty noir universe, Zoe is a sentimonster and her mother is hawk moth 💀

Unless someone with super strength like Shadybug comes in or someone with a hammer or something, Marinette's diary is safely locked in her magic box, which as demonstrated in "Darkblade", clamps around the hand of anyone who tries to steal it.

I thought this special was pretty amazing too!!! The transformations were absolutely beautiful, the fight scenes were great and seeing the emotional side to Shadybug and Claw Noir was so sad but it makes me happy that they decided to be good 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

I thought it was Fu for a long time but now i know the supreme is actually gimmi. Betterfly called the supreme «an evil being». Also, the reason Marinette couldnt make a wish is because gimmi dont wanna be summoned. It says «the supreme is reality». Gimmi is the kwami of reality. Also, the supreme symbol is the symbol of the alternate dimension miracle box. The miracle box symbol is the signature symbol of gimmi. It was so obvious

Ok, glad to know I’m not the only one looking at the Alya and Marinette moment at the end through shipping goggles. 😅

Okay... now I have that in mind... Once Ladybug and Chat Noir saw that their version from that alternative dimension had their same civilian identity, couldn't they just ask Betterfly what is his identity as well? I mean, considering he is literally from another universe, it wouldn't be a risk to expose his identity and, even if it wasn't 100% sure, would already give our heroes in our dimension a good hint on who most likely could be Monarch.

In case no one caught it, cat noir was scared to use the cataclysm bc this was the SAME night he had used it on his dad. Which is why he freaked out when claw noir forced it on himself.

I know, I know. Adrien and Marinette are endgame...but girl!!! Marinette and Alya... That could be fun... 😅😅

One of my favorite things about these miraculous world specials is that each one reveals a huge secret about the miraculous: New York: there’s more miracle boxes, like the American miracle box. Shanghai: The prodigious, aka, some sort of prototype miraculous. Paris: the supreme. Presumably the one who probably made the miraculous in the first place. Which is more of a name drop than a reveal, BUT, still a huge thing.

My guess is, Master Fu is the Supreme..., it would make sense cause he might have a lot of knowledge about the miraculous...

I have a theory that Marinette kept her diary and kept it for when she forgot everything after giving the miraculous box, probably Marinette will forget everything and by reading her diary she will remember about everything.

I think the supreme is what might have been involved with our little deceiving azula olaf in the last part of the final day.

Interesting thing the wiki pointed out was that hesperias kamikos often make supporters instead of heavy hitters themselves. Probably because hesperia is always out fighting himself instead of hiding in a lair like monarch.

The last Universe was the reverse Version with misterbug and lady noire That why ladybug looks like she look We can see braids so it means she is mix of Ladybug + her akumatizing+style of lady noire

I AGREE THAT IS MY FAV SPECIAL THAT SLAYED SO HARD IT WAS WORTH WAITING FOR IT

Personally, I can't imagine myself ever getting tired of the multiverse trope. It has some overused cliches, yes, but the sheer fun of it comes from the endless possible characters, parallels and interactions between the same but different - yet - similar - at - some - points characters because literally ANYTHING can be a possible reality. The creative freedom what it grants for the creators and for the fan's fantasy both plot, design, relationship, emotional and worldbuilding-wise is what gets me hooked every time I see it (if it's done well).

Its a theory about Marinette's diary, Mari's been writing in her diary since she knows that one day she will renounce her guardianship and forget everything, the diary will keep as a reminder for herself when the day comes. It's foreshadowing.

I really loved this special

Oh man this special was really miraculous