In the Star Trek multiverse, there is a 90% correlation between Janeway and addiction to coffee.

Voyager's finale shows that Janeway can be quite a nasty one, if pressed into a corner. It would be hardly surprising to see an overtly aggressive Janeway coming from the Mirror Universe, while keeping the same traits of the Prime version

"...she's still addicted to coffee." Some things can't change even if the rest of the Universe does!

Pirate Captain Janeway:... THERES COFFEE ON THAT SHIP! COMMENCE RAID!😏

I really like Janeway in this STO storyline. Frankly, I'm tired of these cartoonishly evil Terrans who just yell about killing you painfully, over and over again. It gets tiresome very quickly. Janeway is clearly more intelligent, and more of a strategic mind than anyone else we've encountered so far. I'm curious what they'll do with her, now that she's on the run from the Emperor and is acting independently.

If anyone else is familiar with the English sea song/shanty "John Paul Jones" Cat Janeway is a pirate No loyalty does she possess Keep it up we'll catch the pirate And sink her along with the rest Set feet, row Set feet, row Set feet, row Set feet, row ...

I'd imagine that the mirror Anika Hansen looks younger than her prime counterpart. Hard to imagine S3ven didn't see some time in a maturation chamber, accelerating her aging between the ages of 8 (probably when she was grabbed) to her late teens to early twenties (when most human growth processes finish). If the mirror Anika managed to stay unassimilated and stay growing naturally, she'd probably be looking ten years younger than her prime universe counterpart when the mirror Voyager found her.

Marshall Janeway does seem to command respect. I like the route STO and the comics went with the Terrans. They are ruthless but still pragmatic and will use alien technology, alien races in their ranks, and will honor teamwork until it comes time to advance (though their seems to be suggested "rules" for when advancement is appropriate)

I'm glad they decided to go with the Warship Voyager version of Janeway as that's how I always imagined her Mirror counterpart to look like. _"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative. Violence... Force must be applied unapologetically..."_

From the lines of dialogue in STO I took it that Marshal Janeway conquered The Borg and usurped the Borg Queen as ruler. She literally is the Borg Queen now and used that new power to gain a position of power in the Terran Empire under the Emperor. Just like Mirror Leta got power from the Pah-wraiths and became Captain of the ISS Enterprise.

Unlike a lot of the other mindlessly violent Terrans, she probably learned that she isn't always the biggest fish in the pond, so showing some digression probably helps. Can't see any Janeway fighting their way out of first contact with the Voth and surviving. Knowing when not to shoot probably proved advantageous enough for her to develop an uncharacteristic level of restraint..... for a Terran.

It’d be hilarious if the Equinox, realizing that Terran supremacy was useless in the Delta Quadrant, ended up going the path of interspecies cooperation like Prime Voyager. It’d gain a reputation of a reserved yet surprisingly eager helper in order to further its goals of reaching home (as fate would decide that its journey was less harrowing than its Prime counterpart). Eventually, however, many of the species they encounter end up immediately surrendering their cargo upon hearing “ISS”, thinking that Equinox was a vanguard of the Pirate Queen’s fleet. Equinox would take advantage of this boon, of course, tho would grow wary of this “ISS Voyager” whose reputation is preceding even their own modest vessel. Inevitably, Equinox is encountered by Voyager, and Pirate Queen Janeway would sneer at how “soft” its captain & crew have gotten in their desperation. They’d be offered a place in the Pirate Fleet, of course, but more likely, they’ll be seen as a liability that would be destroyed at the first sign of treachery.

When O'Brien went to the other universe when he went to Deep Space Nine he downloaded a lot of technical manuals about Starfleet ships one of them was the defiant he downloaded over 300 technical stuff regarding Starfleet and ships from Galaxy class ships to Excelsior class ships that's how the Rebellion got their ships from the other universe they built them in the other universe but they use the specs that O'Brien got from the other universe

Warship Voyager in "Living Witness" was probably the closest to a Mirror Universe Voyager they could get, given the Lore established by DS9: According to DS9 the empire had fallen, so there was no logical way for the Voyager to even _exist_ without a Imperial Starfleet. I kinda assumed that Janeway in STO traveled into the Delta Quadrant much later. Like 10-20 years later, after the Rebellion had somewhat re-established them Empire. That should not make much of a difference. Except Harry Kim being a _even older_ Ensign.

when i saw this thumbnail it tickled my brain 😂 the idea of janeway being a pirate lol that's pretty dead on, cause she's a pirate in the prime timeline 😅 the scourge of the delta quadrant lol saving the borg causing countless civilizations to fall in defeat, fall to assimilation lol all types of other shenanigans

Now I can’t stop imaging “You are a pirate” playing when I hear about mirror Janeway.

Ive been a storyboard artist and it takes alot for me to say "I wouldve worked on this unpaid scenario for free, make it so good that paramount sends lawyers"....but here i say THAT! well done.

I thought Mirror Janeway would be competent, caring, and an all around decent person.

Mirror Barclay is an awesome character and I like him much more than the prime Barclay as he is not a menace to the entire crew but ACTUALLY COMPETENT! hilariously he stows away on the Prime Enterprise D as a saboteur for the Mirror Picard and replaces his more idiotic self and is so much better at his job that the crew are frankly just too happy to ask any questions about how he suddenly got so much better and baddas. AND THEN he decided that he likes prime Starfleet more than the Terran Empire because they don't treat him like shit so he just stays LOL.

I'm always interested in anything mirror universe

It disappoints me that we never get to see Mirror universe episodes in Voyager. Those could have been awesome episodes to watch.

I just got back into STO, so I'm glad to see this video.

Even though they've never appeared in any Mirror Universe stories, I'd be curious to hear what your take on a Mirror Universe version of Captain Ransom and the crew of the I.S.S. Equinox would be like.

Mirror Tuvok was in DS9 though, which makes me wonder how long they could’ve spent in the Delta Quadrant…

I'm really curious how she met tuvok in that reality, since he was part of the resistance cell near Bajor.

Mirror Janeway would be baking the crew cookies, drinking herbal tea, and have a goatee.

Suddenly from behind: "When diplomacy fails, there is only one alternative. Violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the starfleet way"

Yes !!! More Mirror Universe characters and Ships please!!

How would this story will unfold when mirror verse Janeway welcomes mirror verse Equinox and it’s crew? Would Captain Ransom be more cunning that he will actually kill Janeway and take Voyager for himself? I’m not sure if you covered the Equinox crew.

The second iteration of the Terran Empire is an interesting concept, but I do wish the lore would actually tells us some specifics about what happened between that lore-breaking DS9 episode where Regent Worf is captured and how the Terran Rebellion ultimately prevailed. I am also wondering if the alternate Mirror Universe presented in Dark Mirror, where the Terran Empire lasted well into the TNG era and was much larger, might present interesting possibilities for STO.

Everytime I see the picture of Voyager with all those doohikies attached I can't help but to giggle.

Welp, I'm officially simping for Mirror Janeway. Step on me, Pirate Mommy 8D

One of my favorite versions of Captain Janeway !!!!

Aww come on. The regular universe Janeway was a pirate. She just chose to play nice. Lol My favorite captain.

That is kinda cool there is a running theme with all forms of Terran Janeway depicted in beta materials as being a Pirate of some kind...wonder how intentional these connections are from one and another

I kinda want one similar to the Janeway depicted in Living Witness

Just gonna say what everyone is thinking, Mirror universe pirate Janeway gonna make everyone act up. Them arms

Yes to all!!! Do this as a series!!!

Even though the mirror universe didn't appear on Voyager, I'll consider the Voyager episode of Living Witness the only mirror episode as in what if.

I imagine Mirror Janeway to be a lot like the in-universe fictional representation developed by the Kyrians in “Living Witness”.

I like the alternate Janeway with the guns ...

As I am a huge fan of alternate timelines and universes: Beam over more of this! Much more 🖖😁!

"Janeway Jones is pirate, No loyalty does she posses, Hurry up we'll catch the pirate, And vent her along with rest."

I could only imagine how Mirror Janeway could have handled the Krenim and their Timeship

God damn, those guns though. She clearly lifts.

Voyager is by far my favorite Star Trek show and it blows my mind that so many folks dislike it lol Voyager is just one large family struggling to survive together and that isolation makes the main characters feel so much more like family than it does in other treks where folks can move freely throughout alpha/beta quads with minimal fear. The Voyager crew HAS to become very close over time or they'll lose it all

Holy moly that thumbnail, more like Captain Gainsway.

This would make a great TV series.

Yes please let's have more! I love this video.

Mirror of what happened in Startrek The Motion Picture and ST 4 the Voyage Home... virtually unbeatable foes...

Good 😊 video

They really should have done a mirror episode where an apathetic character is the exact same in the mirror universe. Even better, a total ass from our universe has a super pleasant alternate in the mirror world lol. Ex: Gul Dukat is the savior of Bajor, overthrowing his government and liberating Bajor lol. Also, this Janeway should've drank Irish coffees...

I understand the appeal of alternate universes to some people. But seeing as the entire franchise is being forcibly held under the boot of the Kurtzman alternate universe at the moment, it's kind of a touchy subject for a lot of us.

Pirate Janeway looks badass

2:54 get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head GET OUT OF MY HEAD

I always like the Mirror Universe episodes.

"The mirror GOOD Janeway..." - Lore Reloaded

Interesting This makes an interesting interation of Janeway

I like the idea of a piratical Janeway 🙂.

In the VOYAGER episode LIVING WITNESS, even though the first depiction of Janeway is fictionalized by the descendants of the people in the conflict that Voyager had gotten involved with, I think it's a good depiction of what the mirror Janeway might have been like.

I'd very much like to see more of these. Very interesting lore. All the mirror universe stuff is great. Remember Keiko showing her stomach in Enterprise? That's some sexy acting.

I would be quite interested in a mirror Picard, maybe he despies the flute?

God I love mirror universe stuff, it's always fun

"She is also very much addicted to coffe" constants and variables.

Interesting that you mention Star Trek Timelines as I have both the Warship Voyager and the ISS Defiant on that, they make great PvP combat ships.

27 millennia later, the Emperor of Man launches his Great Crusade to reunite the once-more shattered realms of Mankind...

Mirror verse Janeway never lost control of her ship. I swear the number of times Voyager was hijacked!

And she's still addicted to coffee" glad some things never change

Yes more mirrorverse versions please

You didn’t mention the Dark Passions mirror Janeway who ended up commanding the IKS Voyager under Intendant Seven. Think there was an image on the front cover of Dark Passions book 2.

I hope they one day adapt those comics into animated movies while all the actors can repraise their roles.

Hi Cert, Now this Voyager i would have liked more.

That would be awesome

Spoilers for Prodigy season 2, but it fits pretty well with this canon

Admiral and Marshall Janeway are great characters.

i believe i read this theory. perhaps on 3/4 sites.

No coverage of the Janeway in Shatner's books? Sad. I need to get those books again, they were fun to read ^^

There's coffee in that Caretaker array, and in those Kazon ships..

Janeway always had the dark soul of a pirate it just took the dark universe to truly bring it out.

Great video! Please do more mirror universe characters. LLAP 🖖

We NEED more story for this crew.

You never said what happened to the Caretaker's Array in this timeline. Did she perhaps destroy it when the Kazon showed up so that they would not get their hands on it, or did she have the chance to threaten and coerce people with it first?

Amusing how the older Pirate Janeway looks like Flemeth from Dragon Age.

I enjoyed the video

If Mirror Janeway WASN'T addicted to coffee as well, I'd call bullshtako on this whole thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know I’m late but a video on alternate, alternate Janeway could be fun.

😳 Oh, Lord...Marshall Janeway is addicted to...COFFEE?! 😆

I just happily assumed Janeway's Mirror version would be very similar to what we saw in Living Witness.

Video idea….Who do you think the Emperor is in STO? Do you think it will be revealed?

Swole Janeway isn't real, she can't hurt you. Meanwhile Swole Janeway:

Look at those arms!

Given that Mirror Tuvok is in the resistance at Terok Nor in DS9, does this mean he had a duplicate somehow who went with the ISS Voyager? Or from the DS9 Mirror stories, should we guess that any ISS Voyager and crew met a different fate? Also, does Mirror Harry Kim stay an Ensign, or does he somehow move up in rank, better at it than Chekov's failed attempt? :) Or what about Naomi Wildman or Icheb and the other Borg children? Vicious feral Mirror children? -- For that matter, what would Mirror Borg be like? Hmm, or Mirror Talaxians? Instead of like an overgrown puppy-dog, more like a lean junkyard dog? I'm not sure I'd want to run up against a Mirror Des, given the powers she started manifesting before she left. Interesting stuff.

80, 100 years after Kirk it is inaccurate to speak of THE mirror'verse. There have been divergences. There will be timelines were the Terran Empire didn't fully fall, just was reduced and is pushing back as we see with the ISS Voyager. There is no way that can be the same mirror'verse that we saw in DS9, but a different one. Personally, I've always wondered if the Kurians (sp) had a thin spot between uiverses, so their Doc is our Doc, but the other data is a mirror'verse's. So they're both telling the truth, and we have seen a mirror Janeway as an Imperial Captain who is claiming whatever it takes to get home. Spock's reforms, but still as ruthless a wasp.

i can picture mirror Janeway´s ship shooting kindergardens to enemy ships

Mirror Leeta or Mirror Tilly seems next logical choice :)

If I could exist anywhere in the Trek continuity I'd want to serve in Commodore Janeway's terrible fleet. Edit: And eventually become Commodore myself. Nothing personal Kathryn, it's just good business.

Insaneway would like her pirate counter-part.

Okay the mystery of who the Terran Emperor is in STO better be revealed soon! I could only hazard a guess to whom he might be.

very curious of the mirror data and the whol soong line of droids in the mirrorverse and other possible alt realities including the kelvinverse also.

The Mike Nelson Janeway is also a pretty great alternate universe version.