To be honest, even today writers with too little scientific knowledge casually use the terms 'Universe' and 'Galaxy' interchangeably. Which is like using 'Desert' and 'Sand-grain' interchangeably.

The stuff discovered by the Enterprise alone (all iterations of it) is enough to keep armies of scientists and philosophers working for centuries, and yet, they encounter this stuff almost on a daily basis and then forget all about it the next day.

So there’s a possibility the q know this particular galaxy is extremely important in a few million years

There was a book series where the Q were responsible for the galactic barrier. I believe it was to keep out a malevolent entity from the galaxy...

Given humanoids are so common in the Milky Way, canonically, due to the progenitor species, it does make a lot of sense that far more interesting creature designs would be more common outside of it.

6:48 I'm always amazed how far the Arabic numbering system made it. You travel halfway across the galaxy and you find an alien species using it there, too. Amazing!

Is it just me or does the name "Old Ones" send shivers down my spine?

the TOS enterprise left the galaxy 3 times.. in the 2nd pilot, "where no man has gone before", where they attempted to cross the barrier and they encountered the strange energies effect. in S2Ep21 "by any other name" the Kelvans hijacked the ship and modified it for an extragalactic journey, taking it past the barrier and into the void before the crew was able to reclaim it and return it to the milky way. no difficulty in crossign the barrier was seen, presumably the Kelvans modified the ship having lost their previous one to the barrier. and in S3Ep7 "is there no truth in beauty" where the medusan ambassador drives an engineer mad and he takes the ship on a trip past the barrier (no strange energies encountered, probably due to remaining kelvan mods)

Based on their bones and their homeworld being a gas giant, I kinda expect the 10C to have maybe a whale like appearance...being able "swim" through the skies of their homeworld. In any case they likely won't have a traditional humanoid appearance just like most species highlighted in this vid

I've been thinking about a potential series set outside the Milky Way for a while. Setup: The Q contact the Federation that they are now satisfied with their progress and are deemed ready for a task they have selected them for. They are to ready a small fleet which will accompany one of theirs on an excursion to another galaxy to observe a phenomenon that is predicted to occur there. Starfleet is interested in charting unknown space, but suspicious as to why the Q would need the help of "lesser creatures" for a mere observation. Turns out that galaxy has their own Q-level species that is very territorial - which means freely using their powers there would risk a "war of gods", likely to devastate both galaxies. So Starfleet would take on the task of traversing and exploring that galaxy, with a Q as guide and observer, mostly contained to a static body. They would not use their power unless the mission would otherwise fail, or to return the fleet home after fulfilling it. This would set up a Voyager-like series that has way more plot hooks built into the setting already. You have the conflict of a god-like being with the power to handwave any hardships refusing their help and demanding they push forward. In them you also have an available reset-button so you can afford to push the crew to the very brink. But in that there's the potential to set up an end-series cliff hanger with the local powers becoming aware of and confronting the Q... Multiple ships means several factions that interact with each other, with the potential for conflict that slowly unfolds over multiple seasons despite them constantly being on the move. Having individual ships go on solo missions. Having the fleet prepared for a long-term mission allows the writers to address many of the gripes people had with Voyager's supposed plot holes as well. And in contrast to pretty much all other Trek series you already have a pre-defined end you can push out as far as you need to and then use it to wrap up once you're done.

Nothing better to listen to that Rick while sitting in the cab of a truck. Before people yell at me, I'm not the one driving

Nice work. Hey, by the way, in Star Trek: Picard, I've heard that Starfleet ships that were only in STO are becoming part of Star Trek canon. The Templin Institue did kind of a review of the first episode of Season 2 of Picard where he gave a 'review' of the Starfleet ships, which seems to include classic ships, but from what that KZfaqr believes, it also includes starships that I've only heard about in STO. Did you check out that video? Later and best wishes.

Yes another excellent video. Thank you.

I remember a book that covered the doomsday machines. Reunion by peter David. . ( tng novel)

It says a lot about the absurd size and breadth of the universe that even in Sci Fi there is no faster than light speed that can make traversing the distances between galaxies reasonable.

The biggest INTRAgalactic threat in canon? God.

How about the 4D Jehovah in STNG episode, Justice? “Leave my children alone” maybe the vengeful sprite wrecking this little patch of space in the galaxy.

I was going to mention the Caeliar/Borg, but apparenty they're from Erigol, they just happen to do a lot of their work across the entire known universe... somehow.

Well done!

There was 3 Original Star Trek novels, made up a trilogy, The Abode of Life, Chain of Attack and The Final Nexus. The middle one, Chain of Attack, took place in another galaxy far removed from ours, The Final Nexus takes place in the void between galaxies. All three very well written, would make nice feature length TV serials or movies. Hadn't thought of these books in years, growing up the the 80's and early 90's these were some favorites 😀, there really wasn't much Trek back then. Had The Motion Picture in 79, The Wrath of Khan in 82 I think, Search for Spock in 84 and the Voyage Home in 86, The Undiscovered Country in 91, so all you had were non canon books or the Star Trek Logs (books) of the series episodes. Not like it is now Though

That little note at the end where the majority of entities that cross the barrier are psionic is really interesting, it hints at an origin of the phenomenon. But i don't know where that hint may lead

Very good and informative videos!!!

I sort of wonder if the Giant Space amoeba came from the Galactic Barrier.

Thank you this was so interesting

1701 tos did it three times not just two… third was with the alien that was in the box and no one could look at it without going insane Is There in Truth No Beauty?

I’m glad you talked about the Ornithoids. Someone with good background should do a thorough analysis on them. Most likely they came from one of the Magellanic Clouds. Distance not too great, studies the galactic barrier from a distance so worked out passage, etc. Your summary here seems more correct than some others I read.

Isn't it suggested the Tholians are also not native to the Milky Way? Considering how unique their physiology is I'd say its a strong possibility.

I can’t help but notice the connection that most were non humanoid. That is obviously explained by the progenitors, but of course it also seems to imply that the humanoid form evolving outside of the Milky Way is a lot lot less common without interference.

Thanks Rick!

The Makers can't be completely wiped out by a supernova, just that branch of them. Because they established several worlds and several galaxies.. Would be interesting to see them in the future

It's been a long time since I've seen the episode but wasn't the crystalline entity not from the milky way galaxy ? Who knows about the Q as well but that's just speculation.

I believe Spock speculated that the neural parasites from "Operation: Annihilate!" may have also originated from outside the Milky Way Galaxy.

*spoilers* They made the iconians cannon.

just watch season 4 , so this came at just the right time.

🌎🌏🌍 One world, one galaxy, one universe. Beyond you'll find thoughts, that will astonish.

I think it would be a more likely explanation that the giant space amoeba somehow slipped over from fluidic space maybe with an undean incursion accidental stow away in the transfer

Wasn't the whale probe stated to be extragalactic?

26th Century Coaxial warp drive is capable (with a fair number of years) able to get to another galaxy.

Perhaps the space amoeba lives inside the galactic barrier & is native to it - heck maybe it is even a bunch of them generating it's energy field in the 1st place ?

V'Ger's machine world and the Whale Probe's makers were in all likelyhood extra galactic.

Thought question: would the Federation, if it had a drive system that could breach the galactic barrier only once, send a ship on a one way journey of exploration and why. Oh, the ship can still communicate, it just can't cross the barrier again.

Can you make a video on the Sphare Builders from Enterprise the one with Captain Archer compair them to The Iconains . Which Species has the superior technology the advantages an disadvantages of both species . Who is better .

Was speculated the tholians were intergalactic based on starfleet battles

You actually neglected to mention the USS Valiant, which was swept past the galactic barrier by an ion storm, before trying to limp back. It was that ship's jettisoned recorder that the Enterprise crew found.

I heard that the Tholians might be from another galaxy. Idk if that's true though. But it's fun!

I wonder if the 'Giant Amoeba' was actually created by the Galactic Barrier...? Maybe when the Valiant was destroyed, or even when the Enterprise went in.

Isn't that the whale probe in the thumbnail? Did you not talk about that one or did I miss it?

can you cover Extra dimensional entities and threats

What about the Whale Rod Satellite from ST: IV?

I haven't seen disco season 4 due to it not being available here... So, I'm not that bothered as personally I enjoyed the series 1 and 2 but 3 was a tad confusing.

The planet destroyer was said to be a prototype of a much larger craft created by Guinan's people to defend the milky way.

Would you classify the aliens from the STNG episode "Schisms" as Extragalactic or Extradimensional??? I call them the click click monsters.....

I mean you could do a whole startrek show outside the Galaxy. Like Voyager, but good. Follow a more DS9 style for characters as well. Oh, and use adults, not people barely old enough to drive.

wasnt Gomtuu suggested to extra galactic?

What game does the ship footage come from?

Star Wars also has the galactic barrier, and I bet there is several others

I'm personally guessing that the 10-C will be the Kelvans, because both are extragalactic beings whose homeworld is now uninhabitable, and because Discovery has brought back TOS characters before (like the Guarsian of Forever). The fact that the Kelvans were shapeshifters could explain their different appearences in TOS and Discovery

Not sure if this applies but what about the civilization the "reprogrammed" Lt. Barclay?

So, uh, you forgot the machine species from Picard Season 1. I personally like the (Beta canon) idea that the Q continuum put the barrier there to keep something that Q accidentally let into the Star Trek universe - there's a trilogy where Q takes Picard off on some trippy nonsense mission and they go over it there. Which, I might add, has one of my favorite Q bits in it, wherein Q explains to his, er, wife?, why he's so amused by Picard finally - in his own words, "he's [Picard is] the 'straight man'." To which lady Q responds that that's absolutely "carbon based of you," and Q shamelessly admits that it is. He's such a great trickster god when written well lol.

sigh so the dooms day weapon was basically a prototype weapon of the DMA in 3989 or w/e freakin year discovery is in now an Picard warned them bout it

How did you forget the Tholians?! In apocrypha they originate from the Messier 81 galaxy.

Still though, they mentioned that the mycelial network goes across and between universes, and yet in the show it was later stated that it only goes as far as the edge of the milky way. My guess is that the mycelial network does stretch across the universe, but the barrier also cuts through subspace, causing the mycelial network to be split between the galaxy and the wider universe. And the reason why I think discovery wont try to jump into the 10c hyperfield is because they simply don't know if it can work outside the galaxy.

it is always fascinating to discover what can exist outside our own galaxy i think that barrier was put there so that humans one day figure out fully to traverse it and truly go above and beyond naturally

Would you consider 8472 as extra galactic threat?

An object launched in space will keep moving until another force acts on it. The Doomsday weapon could've easily been launched on an intercept course to a neighboring galaxy running minimal sensors in case of the unexpected. It wakes up and moves then return to half-asleep mode. When it comes within scanning distance of a galaxy, it'll power up to 100% and can then navigate through the barrier just fine and comes on in for munchies!!

Quite a coincidence and kinda reassuring that you uploaded today since I had a nightmare that you nearly lost your channel to DMCA abuse and decided to abandon sci-fi stuff in favour of a career in chess

The Kelvin don't need to emigrate to the Milky Way galaxy. They just need to wait for a couple of billion years until the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies merge/collide.

What about the 10 c

Lol the traveler, I wonder if that’s where bungie got the name for their traveler.

In apocrypha, Voyager was ABOUT TO exit the galaxy. But how far they got before the universe was erased was not depicted.

Shame the Discovery crew couldn't all get godly powers from the barrier like Gary Mitchell did to even the playing field against the 10-C

Anyone else hear ice cream truck music around 5:56?

What about the fried-egg parasites? (Sure wish they'd shown up again in ST:TNG or ST:VOY)

If Vader invaded our galaxy with his Imperial fleet he will find out that Force powers do not work in our galaxy.

How about the being in the undiscovered country that was trapped on the planet past the barrier

What about “O”? He is imprisoned outside the Milky Way galaxy

Bro the traveler took the enterprise d to the ascendant plane

Hello rick! :)

You forgot those... things Soji tried to bring to the galaxy in the end of the first season of picard!!!!

isn't the Crystalline Entity an Extra-Galactic being?

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All you would need to do to destroy a planetary alliance would be to go to their capital planet and warp speed into it

So, does this mean that the Tauri ships in Stargate have more advanced engines than all of Star Trek? Since they travel between galaxies quite often.

So why did'nt anyone on Disco get super mind powers?

Planet Killer could have used a wormhole

More research required, at least if you want to include books (see Vendetta) this book describes the "doomsday machines" origin and the bigger threat, It is a fantastic story that combines Guinan's people and the Borg, Basically the Doomsday device was a prototype designed to destroy the Borg but the story combines Captain Picard's life and connections, tying in many of the "cannon" story lines (Sorry Must try harder😉)

The first ship to leave the galaxy was the SS Valiant. RIP

The tryanids invade the star trek universe hahahahahahahaha now that would be funny for the Feddie's to deal with.

The Iconians fled to Andromeda, a galaxy that in canon was dying or at least being overrun with deadly radiation that the clarktech advanced Kelvans could not cope with? Granted, Star Trek usually gets time scales wrong and explains such errors away as "subspace shenanigans" and so if the Iconians fled to Andromeda hundreds of thousands of (Earth) years ago, they could have been there when the "scouring" of the galaxy was not so bad the Kelvans had not left yet. Again with that stupid galactic barrier. It serves no meaningful purpose, and almost does not even actually exist in the Star Trek Universe. Space travel being as hard as it is it makes no sense that the barrier that is supposed to keep out extra galactic threats can not stop a starship from pushing through the bramble and back in. Any exo-galactic species wanting in could literally just push in with moderate effort and it is not like they can not get the energy they need along the way, go to sleep, save that energy pulled form wandering star system or rogue planets, or hit up some minor galaxy nearby the Milky Way until its time and then get to work. The Barrier rightly makes no sense and serves no meaningful purpose. Hinting at alternate universes, or that there is actually life beyond the galaxy (when you still have not actually touched and mapped the far side of the galaxy you are in) seems like a set up with no pay off ever.

The young Jean-Luc should have stuck to archaeology because he clearly doesn't know beans about astronomy. There's plenty of matter in intergalactic space that a Planet Killer could feed on. Whole star systems have been ejected out there. Besides, a spacecraft that's miles long with a hull made out of solid neutronium would have the mass of a small star, its momentum would be enough to punch through the Barrier like it wasn't even there.

Discovery also leaves thr galaxy in season 4

The galactic barrier really bothers me. I can usually suspend my physics knowledge for a good bit of sci-fi but I just cant in this case. Its too silly.

Theo Marcluse, had he lived, would have made a GREAT Lex Luther... 😏

Doomsday sent by the Iconians?

Season 4 disappointed me greatly, just drags on an on...

woops this episode starts off with STD right off the bat darn shame that

Caution, Spoiler. Hm, I think the from-outside-the-galaxy artificial life in Star Trek Picards Session 1 finale.

The fact that Kelvans and other extragalactic entities like the ones in Cat's Paw only show up in TOS shows how poor and less imaginative TNG and the following series are when compared with TOS (not even counting the socio-political/philosophical commentary level of TOS). Even the Q are just more like comical devices than actual interesting plot elements.

INTER-Galactic.. not extra-galactic. That line in Discovery made me cringe so hard. Do they not have anyone proofread the science jargon anymore? Inter-Planetary: The space in between planets of a solar system. Inter-Stellar: The space in between starts (in between solar systems) Inter-galactic: The space in between Galaxies. For making reference to species it works, but not for the actual space in between galaxies.

why would anyone in their right might give the most remote crap about STD spoilers