There is a similar story where someone wanted to use Hawkman, however they weren't allowed to, so they created a character named Zauriel, who is a winged angel from Heaven...when Green Arrow sees him for the first time he thinks it is Hawkman.

...how about all the Superman rip offs? Captain Marvel (DC) for starters?

Cant let this go by without the obligatory mention of Jim Shooter and how he sort of accidentally mandated the Dark Phoenix storyline.

​@@matthewwriter9539 Grant Morrison justice league

With electric blue superman I think

Its Martian Vision. It does whatever the hell the writer wants it to do.

We need water but we can't breathe undervater. 😀

Martian Manhunter has expressed how dumb it is for him to be afraid/allergic to fire in spite of his powers.

Yes! And co-showrunner Brandon Vietti, of course. And writer Nicole Dubuc, who used her own sitcom experiences when writing a lot of her episodes.

seriously. young justice may be scattered at times, but the way it always keeps track of miss martian, dick, and aqualad on their journey from young inexperienced heroes to mentors and pillars of the superhero community makes it one of my favorite pieces of superhero media ever. it allows its characters to truly move forward instead of constantly bringing them back to square one and for a character like miss martian who really needs that level of character work it does so much to make her so human.

Oh I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t really know much about her at all before first watching Young Justice for the first time ever two weeks ago, but now that I have finished the first two series (I STILL need to read some of the comic book series and then get on with season 3 and 4), she‘s probably my top favourite character. Her abilities at such an incredible level that really warrant her existence ‘a lot sooner’, as well as her very interesting and surprisingly impactful back story, and her relationship with the other characters (not going to spoil who in particular for those who haven’t watched the series yet) really make her soo intriguing and shippable to me, and I think many others relate. I just feel so ashamed that I hadn’t watched this story until now. 10+ years late to the party, but it looks like it is still going strong in fandom and notoriety and glad now to be a part of it.😁❤️

Agreed. It’s also hard not to think of her and Superboy as anything other than a couple.

Too bad that show was cancelled once again ...the show is turning into Jean Grey lol

@@jfdracit’s technically in limbo, still. Hasn’t been cancelled yet (again). And, if it’s anything like Jean, you know it’s gonna come back again lol.

The writers did great those first 2 seasons. It literally made "Hellooo Megan!' part of my norm lol

I couldn’t agree more. For me personally M’gann is my absolute favourite character, closely followed by possible Artemus and I couldn’t imagine the story without her. I still need to get on and watch season 3 and 4 to see where things go, as I have only just now started watching Young Justice for the first time (27yo here so quite late to the party, but glad to finally join in), but I can’t imagine my position on her changing very much.

While doing the Carlton dance.

@@Vegadra I didn't even think of that! You win the internet today IMO

What's new, pussycat? WHOA u woah woah woah...

Beat me to it.

Well, being Welsh is sort-of like being an Alien. (Can you believe that guy is 83 and not only still performing, but still sounds good?)

What was the other time?

​@@Blue5StandingbyYoung Justice Cartoon, It was supposed to be Wonder Girl insted of her

@@Gabe600 interesting, as much as I like wonder girl and wish she was in young Justice more, I do think the show is better for having Miss Martian.

​@@Blue5Standingby It certainly stands out more.

I love that scene so much

agreed! Seasons 1 and 2 were so different yet so good and I love how each handled Miss Martian's character.

season 2 had such a logical evolution from season 1 without just repeating the same character arc she had in the first.

Agreed! The only real issue I had with her story line was that only Superboy seemed to have a problem with her lobotomizing people. I felt that at the very least Superman would said something.

@@projekttaku1 | I agree. I'm glad they were willing to go a little darker and let such a lovable character's morality become so muddled. Though I guess Young Justice was always a little dark.

@@obi_oma yeah, it was fairly interesting. Although I am disappointed that we didn't actually see her tamper with superboy's memories. Maybe a tie in animated movie set between season 1 and 2 could've cleared some things up.

maybe they just thought a martian cousin would fit better for "martian superman" than an alt world supergirl.

Power Girl fans aren't allowed to have good things.

@@projekttaku1 My point is why create a knock-off Supergirl when they already had one.

They probably wanted a character that could align more with certain supergirl traits that didn't fit with power girl since they're so different. Also, I didn't know Martian Manhunter was a stand-in for Superman--that's really interesting!

@@obi_oma that's a good point, Powergirl got a whole different personality than Supergirl also if I remember right MMH was a stand in for Batman too

The YJ version is by far my favorite, but of course it has the advantage of having ended. It was good, and will always be so because there's no danger of some future creative team pissing all over its legacy to feed their own vanity with ill-considered "re-imaginings" and careless retcons, nor can the show be ruined by editorial (or marketing department) mandates to participate in crossover events and daft reboots. The longer I live to compare the two, the more I'm struck by how much Western comics hurt themselves with their endless creative team rotations and corporate meddling with story direction. The manga business has many flaws of its own, but there's a lot to be said for (mostly) keeping one main creator in charge of a book for its lifetime and letting it end when they're done telling the story they wanted to tell.

​@Rich McGee I think you can gave different creative teams as long as you have strong editorial who malkes you stick to cannon and accurate characterization. Unfortunately, at the moment Marvel and DC don't have that. But they do have corporate overlords.

Artemis barely appear in the comics so they aren't that far off

Wait, Artemis isn't an OC?

Artemis was historically a villain until the New 52 and her lineage is mostly the same, so I love how YJ reworks it into an important part of her character arc.

I catch myself thinking "Hello Megan" a lot too lol

That was on Grant Morrison's JLA run. It seems to happen with him a lot. He wanted to use Colossus in New Xmen but was denied so he gave Emma Frost her diamond skin.

@@Superlad945 you know what? I do believe you are correct, it probably was Aquaman, not Green Arrow. ...they both are male superheroes who have Caucasian skin, blond hair, and a green super suit, and are members of the Justice League... however that is probably, I said probably, where their similarities end. ...oh, and like most DC heroes, they have both died and come back to life.

Did Marvel ever do 2101? That sounds really cool to change over for the millennium change.

@@vullord666 Peter David's 2015 series ended with the calendar finally rolling over to 2100.

And yet she joined the avengers before spidey did. That's gotta hurt.

T’omm J’onzz (or Tom Jones) is Martian Manhunter’s little brother, not his cousin.

@@joshuaingobo1559 the more you know

Martian Manhunter👿🐉🌑is Batman👿🦇🌑 and Miss Martian🐉🖤❤🌑is Batgirl🦇🖤💛🌑

As far as comics go? The answer is always no 😂. Looking at Across the Spiderverse they could do some amazing existential crisis and/or imposter syndrome storylines with virtually every character. Pretty much all were made by accident or by copying another popular character. The ones that did stick on purpose have still be through a ton of changes. Like imagine a Jessica Drew Spiderwoman movie where she comes to gripes with her like 20 different origin stories all in the SAME continuity. Or Wally dealing with the fact he got shafted and all his accomplishments handed over to Barry because DC hates legacy characters (and can’t decide who actually are legacy characters considering how long Barry was dead and Wally the flash). Or just Peter getting traumatized over his entire life being constantly screwed over because of some sick game played by editorial and random writers just to sell more books. … Actually they should really just make a full on horror animated adaptation of deadpool killing the marvel universe. Him realizing their entire reality is just a puppet show controlled by marvel to make money and entertain us (the audience) would make for a really surreal horror movie in theaters.

@@vullord666 the fact that wally was still considered a legacy character to dc after having a perfect mantle pass and being flash for like 30 years is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

@@Superlad945 yes, but nobody treats barry or hal as legacy characters. In the new 52 when dc basically removed all their legacy characters they still kept barry and hal as the flash and green lantern.

@@Superlad945 yeah, probably their biggest mistake, since it didn't fully please the old fans or the new fans just getting it. And it just got worse with n52 superman dying, being replaced with pre-n52 superman, then for some reason them both merging in rebirth superman. And superboy was equally as bad, with n52 superboy being overcomplicated, replaced by pre-n52 superboy with him dying first and now pre-n52 is also forgotten by everyone in the n52 universe.

he wrote infinite crisis and co-wrote 52, so he got to lead in to the gap year and fill it in as well as dealing with the aftermath. he was partly behind the whole thing, so it makes sense that he got some use out of it

Me too 😎😎

*2099 THEME INTENSIFIES*

@@baonkang5990 WOOOEEEEEUHWOOHOOO 😐😰

Or just put both of them so whoever stays wouldn't be the only girl on the team maybe that way the writers wouldn't make Donna date the whole team.

@@Gabe600 That would have been pretty progressive for the time. More than one female member and they’re both the powerhouses.

Except that Kara Zor-El Supergirl was in college by the time the Teen Titans made their debut in 1964. Although, I wouldn’t mode if Supergirl spend time with the Titans and team up every once in a while since the Silver and Bronze Ages.

@@Gabe600 Yeah sure, start the team off with Supergirl, then show Donna's origin and have her join later. I'm down.

How often is Superman called "The Last Son of Krypton" but Zod is still running around?