THE ultimate VESPA TIMINGS guide | OPTIMIZING intake & cyl | FMP-Solid PASSion |

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FREAKMOPED Vespa Tuning | FMP - SolidPaSSion |

FREAKMOPED Vespa Tuning | FMP - SolidPaSSion |

Күн бұрын

step by step INTAKE & cyl TIMINGS measurement, calculation & modification. 1) by hand & 2) with an online calculator.
0:00 intro
0:05 the setup
0:17 cyl mount
1:24 PBT measuring
2:04 case marking
3:11 crank CLOSE & OPENING
3:41 TOP & BOTTOM dead end
4:04 crank intake OPENING
4:58 crank intake CLOSING
5:42 intake timings CALCULATING
6:21 NEW intake opening
7:10 NEW intake closing
8:17 cylinder timings
8:58 TENINCH online calculator
9:14 current timings
10:15 NEW timings
13:36 needed adjustments
13:49 TENINC circular calcs
- needed setup & cyl mounting
use a thick foot gasket so piston stay under the top
- measuring pbt, piston below top
- intake opening & closing current
- new opening & closing
- cylinder measuring
- calculation of the new setup:
a) raising cyl (4 transfer setting port timings)
b) raising exhaust port edge
exhaust port optimising:
• vespa COATED cylinder ...
• vespa 150cc O-TUNING |...
TENINCH calculator:
ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php
FMP timings tables, 4cylinder: www.freakmoped.at/downloads/fm...
4intake:
www.freakmoped.at/downloads/fm...
(new english version coming up!)
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DISCLAIMER: the information shown in this video, is about THIS specific hardware. it is my personal observation documented with this video. It DOESNT automatically mean, that all such parts by this producer or seller do have or will have same issues.
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@DJD8RR
@DJD8RR 4 жыл бұрын
😊👌 Profesor.... 👏😊 Bravo, la Vespa PX no tiene secretos para ti ... 👍
@auliarahman7820
@auliarahman7820 4 жыл бұрын
man, u r so detail!
@confusedmonk1754
@confusedmonk1754 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS GOLD! You Sir, deserve some Belgian beers!
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 3 жыл бұрын
😃👍 warning: i may gonna collect them. Next time i am in brussels on a business trip 😉 🍻
@confusedmonk1754
@confusedmonk1754 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreakMoPed8 make sure to let me know, we'll work something out!
@adeirawan319
@adeirawan319 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mates. Learn a lot from you.
@vuhoang594
@vuhoang594 3 жыл бұрын
thank u so much
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 3 жыл бұрын
you are very welcome 🍻
@jocco225
@jocco225 5 жыл бұрын
Its like you are reading my mind, I'm just fitting a 57mm mazzu crank to my malossi166 and this video came in perfect time. One question, do I need to cut my mazzu crank to extend the closing time to 70 or can I cut the rotary valve on the case?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 5 жыл бұрын
Maximum at intake, rest at the crank. Also use space to the back the extend the intake timing
@chanelmonellamotorbyedybng2925
@chanelmonellamotorbyedybng2925 3 жыл бұрын
💓vespa indonrsia, mr
@SyukorRohani
@SyukorRohani Жыл бұрын
hi sirr.. where can i get timings tables for english version
@worldcollections2839
@worldcollections2839 4 жыл бұрын
for a person understands how to adjust ignition timing on 4T Scooter : it is really veryhard to understand how to adjust timing on Vespa or scooter that has no valves .. but I try to understand ..
@Bob-lv1dz
@Bob-lv1dz 25 күн бұрын
nice vid. are you still active in this world? cant find that tool anywhere.
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 23 күн бұрын
i am. which tool? www.ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php www.race-base.com/2t-tools/steuerzeit
@revanantyo
@revanantyo 5 жыл бұрын
Any idea for malossi 166 mk3 timing? Need to optimize my current setup
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 5 жыл бұрын
What is ur current setup ;)
@3FEET-
@3FEET- 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sir, i have a question about 5:47 how did you convert from mm to degree° ? you really help me understand a lot of thing & i appreciate your effort explaining all this, thanks ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ps : im working on piaggio ciao / si / bravo ( rotary valve ) My problem is i adjusted the gasket below the cylindre, because when the piston is at BDC ( ports was not fully open ), so i add 1.5mm to fix it, now the ports are fully open, but the timing is bad, after i turned the engine on, he went crazy idle & hole in acceleration, i knew it's coming from the gaskets that i add below the cylindre. now im trying to fix, i did a lot of research, im still learning but i want to be accurate. here's some info's if you cound give advise or help and thanks again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ( PIAGGIO CIAO ROTARY VALVE ) inlet open : 112° inlet close : 53° total inlet : 165° conecting rod : 78mm stroke : 43mm pbt : 3mm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ( TEST 01 Gasket 1.5mm below cylindre ) Exhaust port duration : 103° - 257° = 154° Transfert port duration : 118° - 241° = 123° -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ( ORIGINAL GASKET 0.1 very thin gasket - ports cylindre not fully open at BDC ) exhaust port duration : 102° - 249° = 147° transfert port duration : 121° - 235° = 114°
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 2 жыл бұрын
thx. Opening ports is overrated, timings are more important las u just experienced. Better use an online calculator, there are plenty, ie this one: ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php
@3FEET-
@3FEET- 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreakMoPed8 thanks 🙏 for the reply sir, So I have to use the cylinder timing to get the the right crankcase intake timing and website you sent me will help me get that timing i guess.
@habanadecuba9746
@habanadecuba9746 5 жыл бұрын
kann man nach diesen Modifikationen noch den original Zylinder verwenden oder sind diese dann nur noch mit dem tuningzylinder kompatibel? Gruss
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 5 жыл бұрын
verlängerte einlasszeit mit dem originalen zylinder macht wenig sinn, man muesste ihm zumindest den vorauslass vergrößern, dann sollte das halbwegs funktionieren. Anpassungen am block sind egal, der 200er hat eh nur 2 fake ports, 125/150 mit echten ports macht auch nichts, hats halt ein paar mehr toträume
@mangkoes
@mangkoes 3 жыл бұрын
Herr Moped, I'm still confused why you add another scratch mark on the closing time? What was that for?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 3 жыл бұрын
End of rotary pad i guess
@MRT92LXR
@MRT92LXR 4 жыл бұрын
Based on your experience, what rotary pad times do you recommend for a malossi sport 221? The engine has also a polini box and pinasco 26 SI.
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 4 жыл бұрын
You nees forst of all 0,05mm toleramce, than you can go up to 200, with exhaustbooet widening it will peak Up to 25hp. I prefer openining intale to the back max, to the front original. But 0,05mm is the most important thing, if not provided, also short timings will cause blowback and engine will never work normally
@MRT92LXR
@MRT92LXR 4 жыл бұрын
@@FreakMoPed8 when you say to the back, are you referring to BTDC?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 4 жыл бұрын
looking at crank, to the LEFT away from the cylinder
@phuongrose1917
@phuongrose1917 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your master tutorial, i also how did you convert from mm to degree° ? I want to know may i looking for download datatable about strock relationship with degree (60mm.....57mm to ....degree). Have any formular? Help me! and Thanks again!
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 2 жыл бұрын
Checkout Www.freakmoped.at
@phuongrose1917
@phuongrose1917 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@phuongrose1917
@phuongrose1917 2 жыл бұрын
@DZ-jh5cl
@DZ-jh5cl 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,,how to optimize the reed valve timing?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 4 жыл бұрын
U mean cyl. Timings?
@trihayyumajiida5303
@trihayyumajiida5303 Жыл бұрын
Why raising cylinder does not change the pbt measurement?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 Жыл бұрын
oi it does. did i say / show something else? pls give me the min & sec of the vid the value u raise the cylinder is added to the PBT
@user-uf7te3tq5f
@user-uf7te3tq5f Жыл бұрын
كم هي كمية الزيت المطلوبه داخل المطور الثنائي 150cc
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 Жыл бұрын
standard oil fuel ratio
@museic17
@museic17 Жыл бұрын
What does blow down mean?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 Жыл бұрын
ex port minus transfers divided by 2
@afiqghafor8166
@afiqghafor8166 3 жыл бұрын
what cylinder it is?
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 3 жыл бұрын
Cast iron polini 177
@antoniomarto8742
@antoniomarto8742 Жыл бұрын
Can't understand the logic of 112+45=157degrees. If it starts open when piston is at 43.1mm from the top cyl which is 112degrees and closes at 10mm from top cyl which is 45degrees, then the oppening time shouldn't be de difference between open to close which in my mind is 112-45=67degrees? This is freaking out my mind and can't understand where i'm thinking wrong here :)
@FreakMoPed8
@FreakMoPed8 Жыл бұрын
look at the graph, ie here: ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php
@rclavier
@rclavier 5 жыл бұрын
you make the 8th day....to repare la Vespa...!
@handyman7297
@handyman7297 3 жыл бұрын
i watch the hole video and didnt understand anything but still i think you know too much about vespas
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