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@mikemorris7776Ай бұрын
You guys keep doing you. Great videos. Keep them coming
@jima4656Ай бұрын
The D44 is now called a M220 & the D30 is now called a M200. It is still unclear to me if there is a physical difference, or if it was just a name change. Depending on if you get a manual transmission or an automatic, the rear axle on the sport changes. The automatic gets a D35/M210. The manual gets a D44/M220. They both still get the same small D30/M186 up front. When I looked up gear sets for inside the axles, the manufacturer of the gear set for the D30 indicated that 33" tires were the max for their gears. The Willy's, Rubicon, etc get good axles front & rear, as well as different gear ratios. If you have your VIN number, you can look up the build sheet for your specific Wrangler & find out which axles it had from the factory & often also the gear ratios inside the diffs.
@ptm7809Ай бұрын
Willets get the m220 rear, we have one
@user-vu9pe8rw7z4 ай бұрын
There’s my beautiful sister!!
@richardmiller38084 ай бұрын
2018 and newer JL AND JLU run a variant axel setup. In the spicer Advantek series ranging from the M186 D30. M200 D35, M210 and M220 D44.
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
Ay ay ay, sooooooo many variables. We've definitely been schooled through all of this!
@SomoneTookMyName4 ай бұрын
Just my personal opinion. I wheel a lot. And have done so for many years. I hang with the like minded. This is my take on running the D30s and D44s on 37s You can do it and there is nothing wrong with it. However there are several week points that need to be addressed. At least should be. I think where you really start to run into issues once you beef up everything in that stock housing is the ring and pinion. That pinion gets really small especially if you go into 5.38 gears. That is a serious weak point. Yes you can do it but your still risking it. One good bind up and that R&P is likely going to go. There are also other factors. Like how heavy your lead foot is. When I went to 37s from 35s I considered my axles. At the time I had a spicer 60 in the rear and a spicer 44 widened upfront. Long story how I ended up with that setup so ill spare you the details. What I considered was the ring and pinion as a 5.38 on that front 44. Did not want to risk it and put the spicer 60 up front. Yes 60s are costly. upwards of 20k or more for a crate axle set and going the junkyard swap may not be ideal once thats all built up. There are some deals out there every now and then. No doubt it is a big expense to do dana 60s on a jeep. So many other parts need to me changed or modified. On the bright side you gain significant amount of low end weight. A built Dana 60 is incredibly heavy next to a 44 or 30. Like I was saying. You can do it. Many have with little issue but I have seen that R&P go in a few built up 30s and 44s with 5.13 or 5.38s. If you can do the 60 swap just do it.
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
That all makes great sense! I wish we could afford to go to the 60, but it's not in the cards for us right now as we've got MANY other things that are taking our money at this point. Maybe someday! For now, we'll try to keep our foot out of the pedal and see how far we can push it. Replacing R&P is a pain in the butt, but it's still far less expensive than swapping axles. Thanks for following along!
@tiffanytrott74134 ай бұрын
You really need more ME in your videos!! I mean have you met ME!! I’m hilarious. Oh and be doing bad ass stuff in Dungeon Master. Cmon!!! Love the channel and you two!!
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
You are right, we DO need more YOU!
@darrenroos64084 ай бұрын
My son's Jeep at KZfaq channel Papa Surf Off-roading is a 2010 JKU Sport with 5.13s in a D30 front with 37" tires. 220K miles and no axle breaks.
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
This gives up hope!! We'll check him out. Thanks for the comment!
@CuriousDils22 күн бұрын
Hey can u guys help me I’m a total newbie so I have the 2018 Sahara jku. It’s got 35 inch tires and I don’t really wanna go higher until way later and so I got Dana 44 in rear and I think it’s 30 in front. And I was thinking of strengthening the front axel would that be good for 35s for off roading??
@Expedition-FullSend2 күн бұрын
Consider looking at changing the gear raito with the bigger tires. This helped us the most.
@miketuggle92734 ай бұрын
My jl sport 2 door has the M210 up front and the M220 in the back with full independent selectible lockers, lol. I must admit i stuck them on. Next will be rcv shafts with fad delete, trusses, gussets, rebuildable ball joints, steel knuckes, chromeoly rear axle shafts, and maybe an uograded ox locker with 4:88s. Lol. Ill fib and tell everybody it came factory like that.
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
HA! I bet some will believe you, too! ;) There's always something to be upgraded, huh?
@tombarger25994 ай бұрын
This is the problem with every new jeeper starting there own youtube channel. Alot of inexperience and very green to the hobby and jeep world.
@RumpShaker_JKU4 ай бұрын
What’s the problem Mr. Perfect? They made a mistake?
@tombarger25994 ай бұрын
@RumpShaker_JKU there is nothing wrong with it. All I am saying is there is alot of misinformation out there because of social media. Everyone wants to be an influencer but they don't have the knowledge and experience to provide accurate information.
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
We definitely don't consider ourselves experts, and we owned the mistake because we don't want to be out here giving others bad information. We learned a lot through all of this. We will be more diligent in our research in the future, but at the end of the day, we don't consider our channel one that is educational or driven by How To's. We're just here to have fun and hopefully entertain some people along the way. Thanks for taking the time to comment! I hope you'll follow along.