Didnt they only use the d35 in the first year of the JKs?
@Lefishn17 күн бұрын
I'm new to jeeps and just bought my first Wrangler. So you went to 37" tires and are getting 4mpg better than the 35's???? How's that possible
@Expedition-FullSend17 күн бұрын
Hi there! We have 5:13 gears in this Wrangler. That killed the MPGs when we were running 35s. When we went to 37s it brought the ratio down which brought the RPMs down which then brought the MPGs up. With 35s the RPMs ran about 3300 at highway speeds but going to 37s brought that down to around 2700. That's a HUGE difference in effort hence the increase. Does that make sense?
@johnnastevens264028 күн бұрын
That was awesome guys
@tiffanytrott741328 күн бұрын
Best video yet!!!
@JoseAmberLopezАй бұрын
We live 25min from Disney, we’ll have to come try this out some weekend!
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
It's worth the drive!! I saw a video yesterday and the waterfalls are INSANE there right now from all the rain. I've now got an itch I need to scratch.
@JoseAmberLopezАй бұрын
@@Expedition-FullSend We'll definitely be making the drive sometime. If you get this way just holler if you want and maybe the stars will align, and we can do some wheeling together!
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
@@JoseAmberLopez We'd love to! I'll definitely keep that in mind and see what we can work out.
@Mel_OffroadАй бұрын
That tree has taken out so many tail lights. It too got mine. Recently went with the motobilt flush taillight kit.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
That will be an upgrade for us soon, too. I've hit that dang thing more than once!
@shanevanorder2644Ай бұрын
Do jeeps come standard with the engine light on
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
HA! It sure seems that way. It's okay though - it makes them go faster! ;)
@richardmiller3808Ай бұрын
2018 and newer JL AND JLU run a variant axel setup. In the spicer Advantek series ranging from the M186 D30. M200 D35, M210 and M220 D44.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
Ay ay ay, sooooooo many variables. We've definitely been schooled through all of this!
@SomoneTookMyNameАй бұрын
Just my personal opinion. I wheel a lot. And have done so for many years. I hang with the like minded. This is my take on running the D30s and D44s on 37s You can do it and there is nothing wrong with it. However there are several week points that need to be addressed. At least should be. I think where you really start to run into issues once you beef up everything in that stock housing is the ring and pinion. That pinion gets really small especially if you go into 5.38 gears. That is a serious weak point. Yes you can do it but your still risking it. One good bind up and that R&P is likely going to go. There are also other factors. Like how heavy your lead foot is. When I went to 37s from 35s I considered my axles. At the time I had a spicer 60 in the rear and a spicer 44 widened upfront. Long story how I ended up with that setup so ill spare you the details. What I considered was the ring and pinion as a 5.38 on that front 44. Did not want to risk it and put the spicer 60 up front. Yes 60s are costly. upwards of 20k or more for a crate axle set and going the junkyard swap may not be ideal once thats all built up. There are some deals out there every now and then. No doubt it is a big expense to do dana 60s on a jeep. So many other parts need to me changed or modified. On the bright side you gain significant amount of low end weight. A built Dana 60 is incredibly heavy next to a 44 or 30. Like I was saying. You can do it. Many have with little issue but I have seen that R&P go in a few built up 30s and 44s with 5.13 or 5.38s. If you can do the 60 swap just do it.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
That all makes great sense! I wish we could afford to go to the 60, but it's not in the cards for us right now as we've got MANY other things that are taking our money at this point. Maybe someday! For now, we'll try to keep our foot out of the pedal and see how far we can push it. Replacing R&P is a pain in the butt, but it's still far less expensive than swapping axles. Thanks for following along!
@miketuggle9273Ай бұрын
My jl sport 2 door has the M210 up front and the M220 in the back with full independent selectible lockers, lol. I must admit i stuck them on. Next will be rcv shafts with fad delete, trusses, gussets, rebuildable ball joints, steel knuckes, chromeoly rear axle shafts, and maybe an uograded ox locker with 4:88s. Lol. Ill fib and tell everybody it came factory like that.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
HA! I bet some will believe you, too! ;) There's always something to be upgraded, huh?
@darrenroos6408Ай бұрын
My son's Jeep at KZfaq channel Papa Surf Off-roading is a 2010 JKU Sport with 5.13s in a D30 front with 37" tires. 220K miles and no axle breaks.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
This gives up hope!! We'll check him out. Thanks for the comment!
@user-vu9pe8rw7zАй бұрын
There’s my beautiful sister!!
@tombarger2599Ай бұрын
This is the problem with every new jeeper starting there own youtube channel. Alot of inexperience and very green to the hobby and jeep world.
@RumpShaker_JKUАй бұрын
What’s the problem Mr. Perfect? They made a mistake?
@tombarger2599Ай бұрын
@RumpShaker_JKU there is nothing wrong with it. All I am saying is there is alot of misinformation out there because of social media. Everyone wants to be an influencer but they don't have the knowledge and experience to provide accurate information.
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
We definitely don't consider ourselves experts, and we owned the mistake because we don't want to be out here giving others bad information. We learned a lot through all of this. We will be more diligent in our research in the future, but at the end of the day, we don't consider our channel one that is educational or driven by How To's. We're just here to have fun and hopefully entertain some people along the way. Thanks for taking the time to comment! I hope you'll follow along.
@tiffanytrott7413Ай бұрын
You really need more ME in your videos!! I mean have you met ME!! I’m hilarious. Oh and be doing bad ass stuff in Dungeon Master. Cmon!!! Love the channel and you two!!
@Expedition-FullSendАй бұрын
You are right, we DO need more YOU! <3
@TheGoodkiloАй бұрын
Ball joint killers
@user-cb1fv5hf1z2 ай бұрын
Just Kill the Stupid Music.
@79staceface2 ай бұрын
I need to know.. how do you drive 70mph and take your hands off the wheel? My ‘14 JK is all over the lane at that speed 😅.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
I am forever wondering the same thing. I think mine is the exception to the rule! HAHA I know for a fact you are not alone. Our other Jeep is like yours - it's scary to drive sometimes!! Add that Oklahoma wind and you could be blasting off to the moon if you hit a pothole wrong. Coincidentally, it's also a '14. Wonder if there's something to that?
@BlueOxDiesel2 ай бұрын
I like the video and it’s good to see what your Jeep will do. As far as your breakage goes if your tires are straight I’ll bet it’s the front pinion,if tires are hard L/R maybe an axle u-joint. Time will tell. I’ll keep watching
@BlueOxDiesel2 ай бұрын
Yes when you measure the height after at the trailer hitch you can see the rear axle it’s a Dana 44
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
DOH. 😅We've got another video coming out soon that addresses this.
@Rubicon142 ай бұрын
Have any of you’s ever had death wobble after leaving the trails on your way home once back on the roads?
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
No. Thankfully not! I try to look things over while airing up, make sure nothing looks wrong, then hope for the best. It’s not uncommon for us to drive 4 or 5 hours from home too.
@Rubicon142 ай бұрын
@@Expedition-FullSend that’s good. It’s hard to tell tho if your gonna have death wobble unless you see something major wrong the stupidest things you won’t see can cause it. I had a Jeep grand Cherokee and I had to get rid of it cuz I could not figure it out smh. But so far i been good with my jk
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Nice! I’ve been through two sets of stock steering, because I bent them. I guess before they wore to the point of death wobble, lol. I finally went with the DOM steering with heims joints. We’ll see how it holds out.
@Rubicon142 ай бұрын
@@Expedition-FullSend well since my death wobble experience wit the wj now on my jk I did the 1 ton steering up grade in aluminum from rpm and the steel 1 ton jks adjustable trac bar and teraflex hd upper n lower ball joints.
@johnnastevens26402 ай бұрын
😅 Bleep bleep bleep!
@brendaschardine65312 ай бұрын
B made it a sawed off tailpipe 😂😂
@navyned2 ай бұрын
Great video, music terrible
@FahimibnDawud2 ай бұрын
@navyned Agreed! Shit was horrible.. almost ruined a great vid.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback on that. We’re curious, what type of music would you prefer? We’re definitely open to suggestions for making better content!
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
We’re always looking for ways to improve. What type of music do you think would be better?
@j.mitchellellis55512 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Thank you!! 🥲
@ghernandez64572 ай бұрын
Damn I thought I was crazy runnning 38s on JLUR D44s with RCVs.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
That’s not crazy in our book!!
@sixpest2 ай бұрын
Its the same housing as the dana 44 so its been there and done that; the actual difference is that the dana30 axles have no real gears inside of them so they can blow up
@st56372 ай бұрын
Why don't you sell the existing axles while they are still good and unstressed.
@donniepitts16462 ай бұрын
I've been running 37's on sport axles, dana 30 and dana 44 with 4.88 gears. I do rock crawling about 4 times a year. I have broken two axles but in reality, that's not too expensive compared to going to 1 tons and everything else required. I have a 6 sp manual and it crawls great with all my friends with 40's and 1 tons.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Definitely agree! Our thoughts exactly! Dozens of axle shafts replaced before paying for tons.
@clanrubicon2 ай бұрын
Run it! You won’t know until you do. I’ve never run 37s on a 30. Largest size tire was a 35. Axle was in my XJ. Broke both axle shafts on the Rubicon before getting to any of the hard obstacles. In my experience, it’s just a matter of time before a Dana 30 lets go. I wouldn’t dump money into building up a 30 for 37s. You’ve got free 5.13 gears and 30s of today are an improvement over 30s of yore. Run what you got and start putting money towards a better axle in the meantime. You’ve got nothing to lose and the experience will make you a better Jeeper.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That is precisely our line of thinking. It's likely that the weak spot will be the U-joint/axle shaft, and that can be replaced fairly cheaply. We talked about doing chromoly shafts, but that shifts the weak point to the ring and pinion, and we'd like to avoid breaking that if possible. That leaves the axle housing as another weak spot. I think a truss might help give us a slight advantage on that end, but it will eventually give out, as you said. We're going to have fun trying to make it last as long as we can!
@jonaathansimons79382 ай бұрын
If you're not locked, the D30 will live with a moderate skinny pedal. The first weak link is the axle U-joints. There are ways of addressing this: inner full circlip joints, Almost alloy weld on caps, or of course RCV shafts. A high spline count carrier (GrizzlyLocker, etc.) combined with axle shaft mods nets great results. The next weak link becomes the ring and pinion. Again, a moderate pedal greatly extends the lifespan of your parts. Bending the housing on a D30 generally only happens with high abuse; a truss or inner sleeving the tube (I pressed in and rosette welded hot rolled tube inside my XJ axle tubes) alleviates much of that worry. If you don't sky it out you should be OK.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
Thank you, this confirms what we were thinking as well. Truss and sleeving has been discussed, and may happen. Honestly though, with the 5:13 gears, I rarely have to gas it. I just take my foot off the brake and she'll crawl pretty much anything. Hope you'll follow along!
@mikemay71342 ай бұрын
I have a 13 two-door sport I've been running 37 bfgs for over 7 years, Dana 44 in the rear with a mini spool Yukon chromoly axles and Dana 30 in the front Yukon axles lock write Locker 488 gears Adams Drive Shaft CV delete, had a guy here in Florida break into the computer unlock it and create 18 so that I can run the Spool in the rear no lights or limp mode I will the hell out of my Jeep, yes every once in awhile I break something but it's usually an Axel not a big deal the Yukon chromoly axles can take pretty good punishment, don't underestimate a Dana 30 I know people will laugh but when it's all said and done my Jeep is extremely lightweight and that's the thing I was really trying to achieve mostly flat trail riding in a lot of mud here in Florida
@mikemay71342 ай бұрын
People will also say that you cannot run a spool on a JK in the rear you can if you get the delete in the computer there's a guy in Middleburg Florida tuners Inc. Does mostly Fords my jeep was the first one that he experimented with it took a long time but he was able to break into the computer and create a tune to run a spool, now that he has the program he's done a few more
@FahimibnDawud2 ай бұрын
@mikemay7134 care to post his info?
@mikemay71342 ай бұрын
@FahimibnDawud his name is Tony his business is tuners ink. Middleburg Florida
@jeradmiller45753 ай бұрын
Fun fact: all four door JKs (JKUs), except early 07 models, came standard with D44 rear axles
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
WELLLL, clearly we did NOT know that, and I am mortified. I swear I saw that when I looked up my VIN after I bought it a few years ago. We are so grateful to you for bringing that to our attention! I guess it's only HALF as bad an idea as we originally thought. 😜
@WBOS723 ай бұрын
As long as common sense stays in the pic, you will be fine. Subscribed.
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
We appreciate you following along!! We're looking forward to bringing you some quality content. :)
@smileyguyz3 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree that it's all about the driver. If you try to drive it like a rock bouncer with the 37s, yeah things are gonna break and bend. Driver mod above all else
@Expedition-FullSend2 ай бұрын
100%! I try really hard not to send it unless there is no other option, and even then, there are usually options. ;)
@brendaschardine65313 ай бұрын
😂❤
@wesleymillett41433 ай бұрын
I don't think vans were the best option that day...
@Expedition-FullSend3 ай бұрын
I tried to tell him! 🤣
@Expedition-FullSend3 ай бұрын
It was fiiiiiine🤣
@wesleymillett41433 ай бұрын
THE BACKWARDS WATERFALL CLIMB 🤣
@Expedition-FullSend3 ай бұрын
He’s a show off! 😂😂
@jchildress34763 ай бұрын
Where at in Oklahoma are you? I'm OKC and haven't seen y'all.
@Expedition-FullSend3 ай бұрын
We're also in OKC, and we actually were at Axcel's even on Saturday! We're even friends on FB. LOLOLOL We just haven't had a chance to wheel with y'all yet, so that's probably why it doesn't click. Soon. :D
@johnnastevens26403 ай бұрын
You can do ittttttt! 😂 We ain’t skeered
@GypsyJeepin3 ай бұрын
Well, you both know full well some of the crazy shenanigans Gypsy has been involved in and how much I can yeet! She was on stock D30/35 axels/gears and open diff with 4in lift and 37s for 75k miles before we did the axel swap. No bending or damage. Only upgraded because I wanted lockers!
@johnnastevens26403 ай бұрын
Pshh Pshh I'm a turbooooooo! LMAO
@MiniJeep3093 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s a lot of mud
@TheCoolkidds13 ай бұрын
can you leave the edits out? Otherwise great content
@wesleymillett41434 ай бұрын
Love Cross Bar so much! She dead-eyed that tree and it showed her it wasn't messing around 😂
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
Right!🤣then it bit her!
@MiniJeep3094 ай бұрын
www.youtube.com/@MiniJeep309
@MiniJeep3094 ай бұрын
Jeep
@1Up1Down4 ай бұрын
Funny how the people who sit on the sidelines are the ones tryin to tell people how to do it 😆😆😆
@brendaschardine65314 ай бұрын
Now I know where "that face" came from 🤣
@Expedition-FullSend4 ай бұрын
It was a good one!
@MiniJeep3094 ай бұрын
lol 😂😂😂😂😂 minijeep309
@wesleymillett41434 ай бұрын
Those waterfalls are so knarly, even more so in person! That side by side runs straight over everything so easily and can’t wait to see more of master splinter and the turtles!!