You need to pay for zwift?

@@punisher288 Yes. I believe they do a month free trail tho.

Do you think the Peloton has enough resistance to get even the fittest cyclist out of breath and above 170HR? Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so was it higher resistance than a Peloton?

@@bmp713 i have only used the peloton and the resistance was good enough- but zwift is even better on a smart bike or bike on off wheel trainer due to the fact that you adjust the resistance like you would on a bike [instinctive] unlike the peloton where you just turn a dial

Which power meter do you have?

I 100% agree! Just gotta find a way to justify the purchase 😅 I'm super tempted to dump the Peloton.

Have you tried a Keiser M3i? How would you compare the intensity of workout with other quality spin bikes?

Yeah, that's been my experience too. I really need to make a follow-up video! I ended up getting a Wahoo Kickr and rarely use the Peloton for Zwift anymore. My wife loves the Peloton, but she doesn't use Zwift.

@@MitchBoyer ahh the kickr is great, good choice. I bet u can really notice the difference between the 2!

yea, whos going to buy a peleton for 1500, then power pedals for another 1000. for 2500 you can buy a smart trainer for use on zwift.

lol thanks dude!

I was wrong :( there are only two ways to do it-power meter pedals or a third party attachment like the Shift Smart Trainer. Still need to make a video comparing the two. So far, the pedals seem to be the better option in my opinion.

I actually use wahoo speed and cadence sensors to ride Zwift using my Stryde bike. Cadence sensor on the crank arm and speed sensor on the wheel. Search KZfaq for Stryde Zwift setup. Eventually I hope yo get power pedals since I hear it’s more accurate but ~$80 for the two wahoo sensors was a perfect price point to just try it out .

😂 thanks dude!

Hi! I would trust the Assioma Duos over the Peloton any day of the week-even the Peloton Plus. I believe the Peloton uses an equation based on cadence and simulated speed to calculate an estimated power output, whereas the Assioma use an actual strain gauge and have a claimed accuracy of +/- 1%. Sounds like your Peloton is also inaccurate, underestimating your power instead of inflating it, so a very nice surprise! You’re even stronger than you might have originally thought!

@@MitchBoyer appreciate the reply! Happy cycling 🚴‍♂️😎

I'm kinda in the same dilemma right now :) Originally, I purchased the Peloton for both me and my fiancee, however, she's started training at Orange Theory and I'm the only one using the Peloton. I'm seriously considering selling it or trading it for a Wahoo Kickr or Tacx Neo. There are only two programs Peloton provides for serious cycling training: Discover Your Power Zones and Build Your Power Zones. The courses were good and I was able to increase my FTP from 234 to 275 in less than 4 months. Unfortunately, they don't offer any other programs so I'm afraid I've out grown the primary usefulness. I haven't used another trainer, so I cant 100% promote something else, but I would caution against the Peloton (unless you really like their spin classes) 😬

To Mitch and anyone else. My Boss/friend bought me a Peloton over a year ago. Loved it, but the training is just “ok” if you want the best training plans. With the peloton your going to have to develop your own training plan. If you were to use the 3 zone system (easy/kinda easy)---(upper medium/hard)----(hard/very hard) I would say that the Peloton rides you would “fall into” are upper medium/hard “Z2” most of the cycling coaches suggest staying away from that. They want a lot of upper Z1 and a little bit of Z3 (very hard) Mitch, should I get pedals (I could obviously use on any bike) or a Wahoo kicker (no power meter when I’m riding on the road)?

I got it in the mail about a month ago, but haven’t had to time to make a full test video (got married and went on my honeymoon 🎉). My initial impression is that the Shift Smart Trainer does provide a better Zwift experience compared to power meter pedals alone. However, it’s not as responsive as a direct drive trainer like the Kickr. I would keep riding the Kickr if I were you. I’m actually considering selling my Peloton 🤫

@@MitchBoyer Congratulations on your wedding!!! 🎊🎉. Thanks for the update. I’ll sell my peloton then. Anyone interested?

I ended up selling the Peloton and buying a wahoo kickr instead 😬

The Peloton Delta clips do not work with the Look Keo clips. I just bought my wife a pair of Keo clips and she was good to go :) 100% worth it!

Ah, but can I put Keo clips on the Peloton Cycle shoes? That’s the question. Like, yeah it’s 3 holes for screws, but is the sizing of that the same? New clips are totally fine if they specifically can be mounted onto the Peloton Cycle shoes (bought from Peloton)

@@MatheMattical yep! they both work on the peloton shoes

Thanks! Super helpful. Stumbled upon you thanks to the algorithm, probably Mark Lewis related. Love the story-telling. Subscribed! Still enjoying PeloZwifting?

@@MatheMattical thanks for watching! I ended up splurging on a Wahoo Kickr for more intense training sessions, but I still use the Peloton for zone 2/base training rides occasionally.

Yeah it is a bummer. Apparently the Bike + is more accurate. I ended up getting a Wahoo Kickr and use that now. It’s a much better experience on Zwift.

Totally agree and in the exact same position. I'm waiting on delivery of the Shift Smart Trainer--it allows you to broadcast power and cadence data form the Peloton. That will probably be the final determining factor for me.

Yeh come on Peloton I love Matt Wilpers classes too, I’ve done all of his 90 minute classes so many times I know the script!!

Do you think the Peloton has enough resistance to get even the fittest cyclist out of breath and above 170HR? Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so was it higher resistance than a Peloton?

@@bmp713 the Peloton definitely has enough resistance but everything is manual. Rider controls the credence and then the power generation.

@@alansunshinemd Thank you. Are you able to get up to a 170HR? Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so how does the resistance compare?

I ended up selling the peloton and buying a direct drive trainer instead. Now I use the wahoo kickr

Yeah it’s not quite as fun w/o the dynamic resistance. Looking forward to trying it out on a proper direct drive trainer!

No unfortunately I haven't yet. The device is still in beta and I'm waiting for a few more bugs to be ironed out before making the video. Might make another Zwift/Peloton video. For now, I'd recommend power meter pedals if you wanna Zwift on the Peloton.

@@MitchBoyer I'd be curious to hear about the bugs. I'm thinking about buying a beta unit from someone.

If you’re considering it, I’m sure they’d appreciate the help debugging. Automatic resistance is cool, but is a bit too laggy for my liking (currently). I find the power readings to be more accurate with my pedals. The accuracy issue is not the device’s fault, but rather, Peloton’s. It’s almost impossible to get good power readings with the regular Peloton Bike.

No, I ended up selling my peloton and buying a wheel-on trainer for my bike. Tried Tacx first and then swapped it for a wahoo kickr

Yes, but it’s still in beta and has some bugs. I’m waiting for everything to be ironed out before I review it. For now, I would recommend getting power meter pedals if you want to Zwift on the Peloton.

@@MitchBoyer did they give you an ETA?

Nope, sorry

Hi! Okay I’ll try my best to answer your questions. I’m working on another Peloton/Zwift video so keep an eye out for that. 1. Yes, if you turn up the resistance the pedals register the change. They operate on their own, so as long as you’re literally pushing harder on them (by spinning faster, standing up, or increasing the resistance) they will reflect the change in output power and that will be registered in Zwift. 2. You will not feel any difference in effort on the Peloton when you go up or down hills in Zwift. The power meter pedals cannot change the resistance on the Peloton or make it tilt up or down, so 200 watts going uphill feels exactly the same as 200 watts going downhill (this is a bummer) 3. If you use the brake on the Peloton and abruptly stop your character on Zwift will not stop immediately, they will coast to a stop. You could take your feet off the pedals and let them spin to a stop. The result would be the same as if you were to hit the brake on the Peloton. I hope that helps! I think Zwift is a much better experience with a dedicated trainer compared to a Peloton and power meter pedals. There will be a lot more in the video. It will probably come out in December.

@@MitchBoyer thanks so much for a thorough answer! So basically if you turn up the resistance knob then your character will not drop as much as it did in this video? I'm trying to run zwift on a bike+ and just ant to make sure it will be worth it before tinkering with it. I've had motivation issues with hopping on the peloton and am hoping that zwift will be better motivation to actually get on and pedal. I'll be looking forward to your next video, I've been checking in from time to time to see if there have been any updates so I will continue to do so Thanks again!

The power meter pedals operate independently, so the resistance works almost like a regular gear set-just with a single progressive dial instead of set gear combinations. I can adjust the resistance to whatever setting I like. It’s helpful for endurance rides because I can dial in the exact resistance I need to match any power/cadence combo. The only downside is that the resistance does not adjust based on the terrain. It’s purely dependent on the resistance setting I manually set with the knob.

@@MitchBoyer, great content! Are you still liking the Assioma power pedals for the Peloton?

@@jacquelynreneeschneider8121 Thanks for watching! I don't ride the Peloton munch anymore, but I still use the pedals on my road bike almost every single day.

@@MitchBoyer Thank you again for the recommendation!! I made the purchases and retrofitted the Peloton. Now also racing on Zwift and love it. 🙌

@@jacquelynreneeschneider8121 glad it was helpful, welcome to the world of Zwift!

I did and I got rid of it :/ didn’t work out for me. Ended up buying a wahoo trainer for my bike and selling the peloton and the shift device

I think so :/

I have Favero Assioma power meter pedals and they transmit power data to Zwift. They are pretty expensive, though. Check out SHIFT-they’re making a device that you can use with the Peloton. It is much more affordable and has more functionality.

ah, true--thanks for pointing that out ✌️