Mix With Analog Outboard Gear In Reaper

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Mix With Analog Outboard Gear In Reaper

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Pod Peak

Күн бұрын

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@TheREAPERBlog 2 жыл бұрын

Really well done Evan. so for the printing part, watch out that your send volume is at unity. That's basically the same way I do it. I've also figured out a way to print to the same track, which is too many steps to list here, but can work really well as long as there aren't a bunch of splits on the original source media. You can also disable full-speed-offline in the render window and set to 1x online to render the mix through the hardware. Necessary for master fx.

@PodPeak 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jon!

@G_handle Жыл бұрын

Jon PLEASE make a video on this!!! Evan like me and many others have interfaces with 16 plus channels of I/O, and many pieces of outboard gear. Your videos were great, as are the others out there, but incomplete as to this step. Printing back through ReaInsert to the Same channels, as Takes, then hiding the Original takes and de-activating ReaInsert is what we need whether manual or scripted. The comments in All of these videos come back to this but I can’t find a video showing how to set it up. Obviously Evan if you figure it out I’d love to see your video walking us through it as well. This one is the most clear of all the dozen I’ve seen so far, and a Part 2 would be fantastic. TIA Brothas!

@TheREAPERBlog Жыл бұрын

@@G_handle I actually did do a video on this recently

@G_handle Жыл бұрын

@The REAPER Blog Great! Thanks for replying so quickly. I've been watching videos on this all day, both of yours on ReaInsert and Recording with and without Takes. Haven't found where you print through ReaInsert to Takes using Track Output. (Posted by mistake) I did find an old video from Kenny that covers many scenarios, except ReaInsert. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLySesufuMXXgYE.html So combining Tutorials we get there. Do you have a link by chance to the video you're referring to?

@TheREAPERBlog Жыл бұрын

@@G_handle right here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbycrZSXsMeWp2g.html

@thomasshugar5636 Жыл бұрын

I really like the fact that you took the time to label the routing in Reaper. It seems that all of the Reaper 'experts' have overlooked that. SUBSCRIBED!

@MusicThoughtHouse 3 ай бұрын

Finally a video on this topic that is simple and easy to follow. Thanks so much and I can't wait to go through the rest of your content.

@hozozco 21 күн бұрын

Excellent tutorial. Very, very clear. I’m going to check out your other videos.

@BeGoodNow5 11 ай бұрын

Could you have made this tutorial more clear? I don't think so. What's your day job, a school teacher? If not, you should become one! Excellent job! Thanks.👍

@PodPeak 11 ай бұрын

Hey what can I say? I wanted to make the video that I needed (but could never find)!. Hope it helps

@ephraimwarrior6766 6 ай бұрын

this open my eyes wow. i been wonting to go stand alone with 0ut a daw the dat and this making me take a 2nd l00k at daw recording.

@chrisherrera108 Жыл бұрын

Finally mixing with my first bit of outboard gear, so glad I found this video, thanks a lot you made it so simple.

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@philnorris9179 26 күн бұрын

Very clear and helpful thanks

@georgemickel6608 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Evan. That's incredibly helpful info @7:46...I didn't realize that was an option.

@teashea1 Жыл бұрын

good video with nice production values ..... I have recently set up a separate mixing/ mastering station in my studio with an SSL Big Six, SSL Fusion, SSL Bus+, SSL UC1 and SSL UF8. Now that they are set up to work with Reaper, the system works well. It is nice to have physical hardware to use. I don't claim that it improves the quality of the songs but it is quite enjoyable.

@FALLENOUTOFTIME 11 ай бұрын

hey :) did you connect the analog gear to you're master manualy in reaper ore did u use reinsert ? just asking ...

@teashea1 11 ай бұрын

Manually @@FALLENOUTOFTIME

@billyhughes9776 20 күн бұрын

Well done and useful video. I am currently not a Reaper user. I have a multi UA Apollo set up and switched over to their LUNA daw from PT a few years ago. I REALLY like it a lot BUT, it's restrictive for routing and really no good way use hardware inserts. I track with all analog frontend and then mix ITB (my tracking room is decoupled from my mix room, so, separate setups) However, I recently got a nice Stam Audio bus comp and I'm looking to add a few more pieces to mix with as well. Reaper looks to be an amazing option for this so I think I'm going to take the plunge, install Reaper, deal with the learning curve try mixing with it. Thanks.

@nickolaynaydenov3292 6 ай бұрын

This is what I've been looking for! Great job explaining, thank you so much!

@PodPeak 6 ай бұрын

Hey thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

@btidelius7344 6 ай бұрын

Great work! Thank you!

@MikeMoroneyNZ Жыл бұрын

Presumably you could save your Reainsert instances as FX chains to recall them ready-patched for your hardwares?

@WalterBaccoli 10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Evan.

@metalfather8139 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a simple explanation

@drzazgi666 9 күн бұрын

thanks for the great vid!

@andthensome512 Жыл бұрын

Excellent info! Thanks so much!😊

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Any time!

@aydenpetric-sd6qu Жыл бұрын

Thank you Evan!

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

No problem!

@the_red_channel 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, mate, it's so helpful

@teashea1 Жыл бұрын

Very well done

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@pvalenti Жыл бұрын

Thanks...I have a rather unique set-up and while my external gear isn't here yet...I'm trying to prepare myself as much as possible in advance. There is definitely some good info in this video. However, my situation is that I have a desktop interface with no extra sends or receives. But I also have an X32 Rack. So that will be my new interface going forward. I know the easy route is to use the aux ins and outs. However, I don't believe that those show up in Reaper. I know running into a couple channels is the work around for that. But what I am unsure of, is if the aux outs will work to feed the external hardware or not. The X32 has infinitely versatile routing and so does Reaper. I expect this to be a bit of a 'Journey' for sure!

@matthewdraaik9269 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, it was really helpful!

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@nickoricko4564 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. Really informative!

@narddevos Жыл бұрын

Great Tutorial 👌

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙂

@RiverSongMusic 9 ай бұрын

Great tutorial. You lost me at 13:00 where suddenly a new track called "mix" shows up. What is that track and how is it routed/connected to the other tracks? Thanks!

@andygrichting 7 ай бұрын

Nice video and good demonstration, although I would've loved to see whether you've got now also a good way to route through multiple HW at the same time, from your SSL to Bus-comp and then back to the DAW or from 1974 to Bus-Comp to SSL and then back to the DAW, or do you have to bounce it every time, to then route it through another piece of HW?

@SteelTone Жыл бұрын

Thanks !

@hamanino Жыл бұрын

thank you very much

@crhkrebs 9 ай бұрын

Bit late to the party, but I would say to make presets in ReaInsert for all your effects. This way you can call up your, for example, compressor with the inputs, outputs, levels and latency compensation already made. I find it best to “ping” again as my system’s latency for my outboard gears sometimes changes.

@owlmeetscatofficialpage593 Жыл бұрын

Great instructional video ! I have a ton of vintage outboard that I track with never mixed with, but this is something I have wanted to do for some time ,and had to get my head around. I spent all day yesterday trying to send out a signal into a Hologram Microcosm pedal for one part using ReaInsert and my ID 44 using outputs 3 and 4 and still have not been able to get a return signal no matter what I did. This was just a test to see if I could get this system working. I was pulling my hair out with the routing. The ID44 wants to send the audio out ThruDaw which I did but still no return. Going to explore more today and see if I can figure this out. I have a Metric Halo ADDA coming in a few days and hope I have this routing sorted before then. I have a vintage Pultec EQ that will really sweeten an overall mix if I can get this routing sorted. Thanks for your effort and clear explanation.

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

Yeah i'll be curious to see what happens. I hope you get it figured out (I"m sure you will)!

@sbenson76 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever get it figured out? I have an ID44 and I want to run VST synths through my guitar pedals live. Trying to figure out how to do that so that I can play the VST synth in real time while it sends through the guitar pedals and then back into the ID44 for recording.

@owlmeetscatofficialpage593 Жыл бұрын

@@sbenson76 I did end up getting Reinsert to work but not with the ID44. I was upgrading my ADDA at the time and went with the Metric Halo ULN2 3d and got that up and running and able to mix with my outboard and reamp with my pedals etc with no latency. It took a bit to understand my new workflow but I got there in the end. I am sure I would have figured out how to do it with the ID44 had I stuck with it. The main thing would be to set up your alt outputs and run those out to your pedals,(be careful there as far as volume and feedback loops) and then run them back into your system via your normal 1 and 2 preamp inputs. From memory I had to go into Reapers preferences and go to Audio, the input and out put alias/naming and organize my inputs and outputs. After that when you are in Reinsert you need to set your output buss and your input, in my case it was send 3 and 4, and returns 1 and 2. Take your synth track and make a track below it, and send the vst signal there while taking the original synth out of the mix. Arm the track. Set your input on that track to input 1. Now send your signal and you should see your signal returning. Now go ahead and ping it, and it should correct the latency automatically and you are good to go. Even did a much better job of explaining this in his vid, but I am happy to chime in and help you get going. It's frustrating not being able to figure something out quickly as it kills the vibe of creation. Good luck and let me know if you sort it out.

@nolarocks Жыл бұрын

@@owlmeetscatofficialpage593 That is super helpful. My biggest problem is ReaInsert and wanting to use it and outboard gear as a plug-in. (Instead of sending the processed signal to a new track.) I get horrible feedback when trying this method. If I take the routing to the Mains out - I lose the ability to hear the track! I suppose I just have to send to a new track and take the original source track out of the Main send?

@owlmeetscatofficialpage593 Жыл бұрын

@@nolarocks are you routing the output out through the mains or alt outs. What is your interface?

@stephanedanis 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video! I'm guessing this video was based off an older version of Reaper? I ran some testing and I was able to render to a stereo wav file without needing to print back the effected channels into Reaper. My only slight issue is I seem to have a delay in the hardware VU meters but the audio is fine.

@ODBmusic314 8 ай бұрын

Hi i do have the art voice channel strip i am confuse the cables connections going to volt476p interface to be use as a hardware insert in reaper

@bobeschism9426 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant and thorough explanation. Thank you! For Mix bus processing, do you recommend creating a folder and putting all of the other tracks inside, as opposed to just putting ReaInsert on the Master Track?

@PodPeak Жыл бұрын

That should work just fine.

@FALLENOUTOFTIME 11 ай бұрын

now how do you do it without real insert plugin ? routing manuals in master track ?

@StudioNalli 6 ай бұрын

if your audio interface doesnt have many inputs, can you connect a compressor to a mixer instead?

@princephilip-v5t 6 ай бұрын

I’d say so. Just send the out of the mixer to the interface in. Just another link is all it is

@ZombiePenguinStudios Жыл бұрын

so i'm following the video but some how the signal is coming in earlier than the original track that's sending what i want processed so when i print, it's over a beat early than the source signal how is this even possible, i'm so confused

@conrow1157 6 ай бұрын

any tips how I can do this in mid/side mode like in Logic?

@robertopistolesi2735 Жыл бұрын

Hello and thanks for the video. I'm having a lot of problems trying to use external hardware with a portable audio interface, the EVO8. On the rea inserts ins and outs I have renamed the sends as you've suggested but I can't seem to send the track to the matching pair or returns. Also, on the outputs it only shows 1 and 2, no 3 and 4😢 Also, how do tou monitor the wet signal coming from the outboard?

@sytiravajous 11 ай бұрын

I have the monitoring problem also, followed steps of the video but all I'm hearing is the dry signal.

@dabulamanzi919 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I’m enjoying your vids great job. I’m having an issue when I try to select a region on a track it keeps connecting to timeline loop points how do I fix this

@PodPeak 2 жыл бұрын

I believe you can enable / disable this by going to "Options-Toggle Loop Points Linked To Time Selection". You can can also find this action in the Actions List.

@jadedsean 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video dude, I pretty much do the same,. Although, i was wondering how you deal the delay compensation? Even after using the ping button on Reainsert audio will still be slightly out of time. Have you noticed this?

@PodPeak 2 жыл бұрын

You know I've only been mixing with the gear for 2 weeks or so. I did notice that when I print, the audio can be 1 to 3 samples off (which doesn't seem like a huge deal) but I suppose it could make a difference over time with a bunch of tracks. I'll look into it and see if I can figure out a solution. An excuse for another video...;)

@phoenixmediaforge Жыл бұрын

You have to add manual compensation.

@StudioERecording Жыл бұрын

I print a lot of stuff through hardware using reaper. I actually haven't found a real use for Reainsert because I just use the hardware output section on the MCP. To get around delay compensation I'll put a sound like a click track click in the beginning or end of the original track and print that through the hardware then manually line the waves up in the TCP. It may not be an airtight way to do it, but unless you're only printing one channel of a multimic'd drumset or something horribly phase coherency dependent it will probably be fine. It works better for me because you can just line them up visually and don't have to figure out what the exact offset is.

@crhkrebs Жыл бұрын

@@PodPeak instead of rendering by using Record Output: Stereo, use Record Output: Stereo Latency Compensated. This setting incorporates the latency compensation determined by the Ping feature of ReaInsert. Great video and it’s nice to find I’m doing this the same way for my hardware effects.

@ChandTechnical Жыл бұрын

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@nolarocks Жыл бұрын

Where is the extreme feedback / tin can sound? LOL I send out and return in using the Reainsert and all I get is horrible feedback. I'm clearly overlooking somehting simple.

@solosabbath8940 11 ай бұрын

It only took me 2 years, but I figured it out today! I'm using the Focusrite 2i2 and the 2 "stereo outs" are combined with the front headphone jack. Using both creates a feedback loop of sending and monitoring, so I just unplugged my headphones. On the 4i4 unit, monitoring is set to 3/4 by default so you can't send from 3/4 and monitor UNLESS you go into the Focusrite software and re-route monitoring to 1/2. Hope this helps with whatever setup you have!

@jasonandrew81 Жыл бұрын

Can you send the FX to the ( IN FX ) input , Print while record? Or just right click and freeze?

@catloverextreme 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@WooDeWow Жыл бұрын

So I want to start adding outboard gear to my studio, im running an Appolo twin and have been using UAD n waves plugins mostly . My question is, so if I want to use the outboard gear , pre, eq, comp for tracking , and mixing . How would I do that? Say I have multiple tracks like chorus and adlibs and want to change the EQ on the outboard gear on that track ? If I change the setting on the outboard gear it would change it on the other track ? How does the daw save those specific settings on an outboard gear for individual tracks? I can’t wrap my head around this.??

@nolarocks Жыл бұрын

It doesn't! You will have to take a photo or write down your settings on the hardware so you can "recall" it later.

@simoninkin9090 Жыл бұрын

I’ve changed my mind about Reaper in the past month. However, I still consider Ableton to be superior, because of LOM, Max integration, Session view and the overall workflow ergonomics. Though, Lua/Python scripting sounds quite good! In Ableton you can accomplish most of the scripting tasks with ClyphX Pro, if you’re looking for similar functionality.

@simoninkin9090 Жыл бұрын

All other DAWs are simply outdated and are not what we want in 2023 as integration engineers. (Maybe good for _musicians_..those logic, protools, etc)

@garymorrison1009 Ай бұрын

Ok so after many frustrating hours of trying to get a decent signal through send and returns from HW to Interface through ADAT, Ive come to the conclusion that this is basically not going to work. Also, in this day and age with advances in plug in quality and fidelity I just can't see a reason to use inferior external 30 year old hardware. I think Reainsert is a failed attempt at routing sends and returns between hardware devices. Yes I did follow the steps in this video and it simply does not work. I'm unplugging and shelving my old (lousy sounding hardware devices) and boxing them up. Sorry I wasted so much time on it .I guess its 2 days I'll never get back ....