How To ACTUALLY Use LA2A and 1176 On Vocals [FREE LA2A Inside]

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@shayeasy
@shayeasy 9 ай бұрын
that’s really interesting how higher ratios on the 1176 can actually compress less due to the shape of the knee. thanks for sharing!
@BrockBarr
@BrockBarr 9 ай бұрын
Yes, amazing. Very surprising
@stupendousmusic4190
@stupendousmusic4190 8 ай бұрын
The 1176 is really a limiter. So in theory, the threshold would be higher than in a compressor. If anyone can post the exact threshold specs for the limit and compression settings, that would be interesting.
@lalocura1828
@lalocura1828 8 ай бұрын
You notice it when the threshold is already set and you change the ratios and the needles dance or movement changes. Higher ratio less movement.
@samsonlovesyou
@samsonlovesyou 8 ай бұрын
I noticed that you were knocking a lot of db off on each compressor. Up to 20db (just under 10db each on the word "nightfall"). I read somewhere that when using serial compression like this, you only want to take off 2-3db with each compressor. Was that bad advice?
@ultragukuss1325
@ultragukuss1325 8 ай бұрын
@@samsonlovesyou with a stable signal 2-4 db is good, but with a crazy dynamic range like he was showing on purpose, that’s probably the way to go. Only to get rid of the high peaks.. but well, who am I to state. As long as it sounds good? 🎉
@rishabhbose29
@rishabhbose29 9 ай бұрын
The Higher Compression ratio trick on the 1176 is an eye opener. Never noticed this till now. Thanks David for sharing your knowledge and expertise with us. Really helps us Engineers a lot. Much love.
@ixxirecords26
@ixxirecords26 9 ай бұрын
This is why you're the goat of YT mixing tutorials. All business, no bullshit.
@JMarT96Dx
@JMarT96Dx 9 ай бұрын
i’ve been using the 1176 and LA2A completely wrong for years before this video. thank you David!
@lalocura1828
@lalocura1828 8 ай бұрын
Wow the movement on the 76 with 12 ratio was so beautiful the way it was just timed to perfection good job
@paul_arntz_mixes
@paul_arntz_mixes 9 ай бұрын
I've heard this same explanation but this was the most in depth, to the point and had a few nuggets of knowledge I had not heard before. NICE!
@DreamsongsProductions
@DreamsongsProductions 9 ай бұрын
That's also my go-to combo for vocals. I love the AE1176 too. You can also use 1176 and Fairchild 660 on vocals and it sounds amazing as well.
@vocalbooth_tonstudio
@vocalbooth_tonstudio 9 ай бұрын
​@taeknowsyes 😅
@CH-en9rv
@CH-en9rv 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, nobody ever seems to talk about the inner workings of these compressor types. Seems pretty critical to understand this stuff.
@uriel-heavensguardian8949
@uriel-heavensguardian8949 8 ай бұрын
Awesome information!
@jackstanton9955
@jackstanton9955 8 ай бұрын
Great, as always. Thanks, David
@SoCalPatriot
@SoCalPatriot 9 ай бұрын
Loved the video! Thank you for lifting that veil.
@Fred.A.Dubeau
@Fred.A.Dubeau 9 ай бұрын
thank you very much, i’ve seen many conflicting versions of how to use this combination, now it makes much more sense
@kshep39
@kshep39 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic demo and instructions David!
@SvgeRose
@SvgeRose 8 ай бұрын
You just earned yourself a subscriber! i've been learning how to mix my own vocals and this helps me understand the process a bit more!
@Jacosr1
@Jacosr1 7 ай бұрын
Great to read/ see/ hear any info on this combo. Awesome! Thanks.
@sleeptownProductions
@sleeptownProductions 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful explanation! I've been doing this combination for a minute, but this explanation really helps solidify the intention even better 😎 Thanks for posting this one!!
@realguitarstuff
@realguitarstuff 9 ай бұрын
I saw many videos about the 1176, but I love about this video that you gave new insights about the knee behavior on higher ratios. Didn't know that. Also a great explanation about the release curves of the two units. With this background info I actually know what I do when I apply this technique!
@michaelorourke5848
@michaelorourke5848 8 ай бұрын
This is great info! Thank you!
@JohnJeevasingham
@JohnJeevasingham 9 ай бұрын
Super educational take on this classic combo!
@robertopistolesi2735
@robertopistolesi2735 8 ай бұрын
I'm loving these new short videos, thanks a lot fot giving so many tips for free. E complimenti per il tuo canale.
@MichaelLevine
@MichaelLevine 8 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! Very eye opening.
@tomguarente
@tomguarente 4 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@regnifelrub
@regnifelrub 9 ай бұрын
That was very teaching! Thank you!!
@ArloTarr
@ArloTarr 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video David🤘
@zachary963
@zachary963 3 ай бұрын
Great tip, thank you!!
@josku5
@josku5 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been learning mixing my own music for the past 6 months and every once in a while I find a gem like this video! Great help, thank you so much!
@marksinger5954
@marksinger5954 8 ай бұрын
An absolutely outstanding and clear explanation of the more nuanced aspects of both processors. I like the way you used r-comp to easily illustrate your point!
@dyob_official
@dyob_official 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@sbanville4761
@sbanville4761 8 ай бұрын
Great tip. I've been banging my head on a Jazz record I'm working on where the vocals are so dynamic. Never thought about using the high ratio to slam the peaks really fast. Once I made the4 changes to my 1176, the vocals sound immediately natural and not squished. Thank you thank you!!!!
@offlmts3594
@offlmts3594 9 ай бұрын
This is great content. Grazie David
@ideez_
@ideez_ 8 ай бұрын
Super interesting! Thanks
@edsohovocals
@edsohovocals 7 ай бұрын
Great video. So practical and useful. And short. No waffle. Thanks.
@bf4lvr
@bf4lvr 9 ай бұрын
I was just needing a video on this, let’s gooo
@michaelciccaglione3921
@michaelciccaglione3921 8 ай бұрын
Great lesson given here. Nicely done. Thanks.
@aholder4471
@aholder4471 6 ай бұрын
David, you always have that key piece of info that fills in the blanks for guys like me that have been home schooler students of this black art for a long time, and even though I have learned way more then I needed to, there is always something new ans useful to learn to put more pieces of the puzzle together. The variable knee on the 1176 and the difference in release times between the units are true pro tips for sure, and I always appreciate that you have better demo audio then even the pro manufacturers do. They choose some crappy rapper that is basically talking and you give us people actually singing and singing well. You can do this because you are working and building great relationships with your artists (some more than others, for sure, I'm prerty sure your girl don't mind) Love it man, its always a pleasure watching you grow and growing with you. You truly love audio engineering and it shows man. Thanks for sharing the love
@IntheDAW
@IntheDAW 9 ай бұрын
So the way you explained how they work is just so spot on. It's exactly what I hear when using my hardware. The plugins sound good too you can't hit them as hard but very good
@MoveTrueRecords_
@MoveTrueRecords_ 9 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEOO
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio 9 ай бұрын
Best video you’ve released in a while! Great explanation of this trick and showing the a/b of it all. I often default to an LA2A. Though that’s because I often found when i put an 1176 in front of it i couldn’t for the life of me get the right setting it always felt too aggressive, and the LA2A often did it good enough. Sometimes I’ll do a distressor before the LA2A though. I had NO idea that the higher ratio made such a difference! I knew the knee changed, but didn’t realize it was so drastic. I usually had it on 8 ratio. I’ll try 12 now. It’ll add that little bit more control and transparent sound. Thanks!
@999GNG
@999GNG 8 ай бұрын
i love your work and your channel bro!!! hugs from Brazil
@BlurredTrees
@BlurredTrees 9 ай бұрын
I’ve had these plugins for so long. Great tips!
@miutpr
@miutpr 8 ай бұрын
Great video super useful info
@przybylskibartek
@przybylskibartek 3 ай бұрын
Love it, thanks for showing this combination. Greatly appreciated. I have them Three and I was not using too much, exactly because I could not find them working as I needed. I know now why. Thanks again. Will play around now.
@stamecec2003
@stamecec2003 9 ай бұрын
thanks man dope class about dynamics
@jamescave7102
@jamescave7102 9 ай бұрын
David thank you, now it’s all make sense.
@ceed3d396
@ceed3d396 9 ай бұрын
Got the LA-2A yesterday. Hear a lot about it. Time to master it and put it to use.
@pedrovanzeler1185
@pedrovanzeler1185 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video David!! The release curve explanation was pure gold, I feel like this type of knowledge is what separates the amateur/semi-pro "mixers" to the real world class professional mixing engineers. Perfection is on the details. I know it would be a ton of work, but I'd love to see a series of in depth analogue classic pieces. Something like "what makes this song great" from Rick Beato but about gear "what makes this piece great" and talk about the general aspects and then some quirks unique to that piece that made it a staple in most professional studios.
@AshboNZ86
@AshboNZ86 7 ай бұрын
Dr Mix has in depth videos on analog synth gear.
@Listosondabeat
@Listosondabeat 8 ай бұрын
Thanks alot ❤
@michaeld.7520
@michaeld.7520 8 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Never heard such a detailed explanation and demo of why these two are so favored in tandem. I'm sure, once again as with some of your other videos, I'll be using it as a reference. Thanks again!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support! Much appreciated
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 8 ай бұрын
wow I've never heard a lot of what you talked about actually, definately learned a few things, thank you!
@waves7300
@waves7300 9 ай бұрын
I love your content sir ❤
@MatveichAF
@MatveichAF 8 ай бұрын
Great explanation of release differences!
@fredrway
@fredrway 8 ай бұрын
Amazing Tips, was beautiful see this combination in this particular voice
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de 8 ай бұрын
best explanation I've found. Thanks bro
@billesposito2112
@billesposito2112 4 ай бұрын
That cleared it up for me . Sounds way better with the higher ratio. Thanks man your advice is always rock solid.
@sqwop
@sqwop 8 ай бұрын
I remember UAD explaining this technique many years ago but you know a lot more, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@daniel-5377
@daniel-5377 9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@wallacewallets7557
@wallacewallets7557 8 ай бұрын
nice!
@stupendousmusic4190
@stupendousmusic4190 8 ай бұрын
I work with a grunge singer who I always put through an 1176 at 12:1 first in the signal chain after the pre; then, followed by a tube compressor. Never fails with him. 👊🏻
@I.D.Y._
@I.D.Y._ Күн бұрын
Very well explained
@defmike617
@defmike617 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and free plug-in bro.
@BlugubriousMusic
@BlugubriousMusic 4 ай бұрын
This is the best short video on how those two compressors work ever!
@matheusmmr6929
@matheusmmr6929 9 ай бұрын
This tip is really cool 🤘🏽😎🔥
@alban6101
@alban6101 8 ай бұрын
Okayyyy ! ... I see ... Perfect tips.
@goobstersroom
@goobstersroom 9 ай бұрын
Great video Mr Gnozzi
@thomasschlachter299
@thomasschlachter299 6 ай бұрын
Woah 🤯 the step with the high 12x ratio makes mega sense. You think it's so simple but then often overlook details like that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 🙏🏻 greets from south west germany near the City saarbrooklyn.
@JohnGauge790
@JohnGauge790 8 ай бұрын
Great combo for acoustic too.
@themagicbullet
@themagicbullet 8 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful to watch, I understand using multiple compressors way better now
@andbe
@andbe 4 ай бұрын
really good and informative tutorial
@LeakBanga
@LeakBanga 6 ай бұрын
You technique’s help me so much, Might be too advance for beginners.. Your a level 5 teacher
@AVDRE
@AVDRE 9 ай бұрын
DUUDDEE what a great explanation
@alexhulme6135
@alexhulme6135 9 ай бұрын
DAMN I had no idea about the knee changing! I always struggled with the 1176 grabbing a little too much makes a lot of sense now! Thank you SO much for the vid, learnt so much from this channel 💪
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 8 ай бұрын
Same, seems counter intuitive, but the higher ratio kinda provides a cleaner, less messy form of compression that I never got from a 1176. Real eye opener
@1blues1box
@1blues1box 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the ratio tip with the 1176
@lelegambera100
@lelegambera100 8 ай бұрын
goooood
@barrymagner713
@barrymagner713 9 ай бұрын
Totally forgot about the knee change. Great tip. 🤘
@alexinfanti4252
@alexinfanti4252 5 ай бұрын
Great Mr.David!!!! Oh Captain , My Captain!!!!
@hrorm
@hrorm 8 ай бұрын
Woo !! Free compressor !! Thanks man !!
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 8 ай бұрын
Your 76 settings are world class - I will steal that. I made the mistake of always having the LA2 (CLA) first in the chain, definitely going to change that!
@regnifelrub
@regnifelrub 9 ай бұрын
Danke!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support! 🙏🙌
@delmixedit
@delmixedit 3 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhhhh that detail about the 1176!!!!!!
@74goldenjet
@74goldenjet 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation of this nice method, David. I read that even Kate Bush recorded her vocals like this back in the day. And she has quite a dynamic range.
@SayajinKanak
@SayajinKanak 9 ай бұрын
Nice 👍🏾
@AironExTv
@AironExTv 9 ай бұрын
How interesting. I‘ve often tended to soften the knee with higher ratios. Guess I‘ll just give my 1176 and La2a plugins a good workout and see where it takes me. It costs next to nothing to keep a few tracks like this around. Thanks for sharing those details.
@rainsound5811
@rainsound5811 9 ай бұрын
This was a great insight for me, thanks a lot! Honestly when I heard UAD giving away their plugin for free (and the LA-2A of all, also Polyverse before with loopcloud subs) kind of surprised me haha
@guycohenhanoch7721
@guycohenhanoch7721 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant! I will do the same only with a RETRO STA level.
@jeremythomas2865
@jeremythomas2865 9 ай бұрын
Wow that ratio on the 1176 was so interesting. I need to comp “harder” on that thing to get “less” compression.
@treatedsound
@treatedsound 7 ай бұрын
This video was viper helpful! Thank you! Do you ever use this combination with hardware when tracking the vocals?
@davidjohnart
@davidjohnart 8 ай бұрын
🔥...👍TOP Trick 👍...🔥...Thanks a lot...🔥
@donnythompson9233
@donnythompson9233 4 ай бұрын
Back in the days when I was still using HW compressors, my go-to compression for vocals was almost always serial compression, with a later 70’s model black face 1176(LN) first, then into an early 70’s LA-2A. It’s a great combination for vocals, but also very good for bass, and “some” electric guitars as well. But, there were also occasions when I would use compressors other than the 1176, such as the Focusrite Red, and a few different dbx models, too, and while these VCA compressors weren’t as fast as the 1176 FET (hell, what compressor is? The 1176 is blazingly fast even on its slowest setting) there were times when using various VCA’s in front of the LA2A did produce really nice results…one example that comes to mind was for a hard-strummed acoustic 6 or 12 string. While the 1176/LA2-A is certainly considered to be the “classic” combo for serial compression (and for good reason, it’s a great combo) serial compression doesn’t always HAVE to be that classic combination. FWIW 😊
@jason.martin
@jason.martin 8 ай бұрын
Great description of how this combo works, side note, what brand/where did you get that shirt? classy but modern !
@codee-music
@codee-music 8 ай бұрын
Yup a classic combo.
@aleksamrkela831
@aleksamrkela831 9 ай бұрын
Awesome. Bet it's even better when using hardware!
@mystikrebel1089
@mystikrebel1089 9 ай бұрын
Ok David getting it...
@jjones7837
@jjones7837 9 ай бұрын
Dopeness.
@Anders01
@Anders01 9 ай бұрын
I found that the UAD LA-2A has an interesting sound, it will be interesting to try it on vocals.
@lms421
@lms421 8 ай бұрын
Are the compressor inserted in the channel or is it in parallel? Thanks a lot for the video, very awesome!
@tobiaskagstrom
@tobiaskagstrom 8 ай бұрын
Ah, I knew the most of this but I did NOT know that higher ratios on the 1176 changes the knee!? Great video and thnx for charing this!
@wavkingz
@wavkingz 9 ай бұрын
I've been using them in this way for the most part but I think I've not been using a high enough ratio on the 76 and also pressing it too much into the 76 sometimes, thanks D!
@Mr.Facebox
@Mr.Facebox 8 ай бұрын
Super knowledge increase
@davidgardell
@davidgardell 9 ай бұрын
Until October 31! 🤘
@__AbA__
@__AbA__ 8 ай бұрын
I use those two compressors the way you've shown - for the same reason. However, I had no idea about the knee changing with the ratio on 1176. Seems that towards higher ratios it starts working more like a limiter.
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