I'll just start off a topic for now, that all those that say Khabib hadn't fought wrestlers, or that Khabib doesn't know striking suited for UFC. Don't know what they are speaking about.

Shinya Aoki, Kazushi Sakuraba, and Michael Page should be on there somewhere.

@@ahmedhaaqil3903 Khabib does have the most padded record in UFC history.

There is no denying what Jon Jones has achieved, but the minute you pop for steroids, not once, but twice! You're not even in the conversation. He shouldn't have a place on the pyramid at all. Imagine Messi being found out for performance enhancing drugs? Imagine any great of any sport. Its game over. It makes me sick how much everyone is pushing the narrative of Jones being the greatest of all time. He's a fucking drug cheat. Game over. This takes the UFC back 30 years.

Can i post a link here? If you say NO i won't be mad. If you say nothing i will take it as a YES.

Yep the video just ended early, and did not show that the whole pyramid is just a pedestal for the undefeated mr. Sonnen

Of course! Chael IS the pyramid

this channel is a clown

You guys need to come up off this tired ass cringe virgin joke

The rest are not even close! Fkn amateurs

nah the "most what if" in mma is what if chael sonnen lost a round

@@philiptnt to be fair he did lose a round when he tapped to Anderson - but only to win the fight.

But who did he really beat?

@@yteriaereh6467 well if u actually watch MMA and not just for the hype you'll know

@@blobpoop6301 You know what I mean, he really didn't beat any top contenders. I say edson, porier and justin were his most significant wins

Was thinking the same. I think izzy being in the same tier as aldo is crime.

Volk will just lose to everyone if doesn't avenge his loss to makhachev. That loss dented volk's confidence and he would never be the same.

@@DarkWarrior_1 Not true Volk is still a beast and also defeated Yair Rodriguez after

@@DarkWarrior_1 He literally dominated Yair straight after. Makhachev took about 8 months off only to face the opponent he beat prior to his loss to Volk. What're you on

If you watched the video he said he made a mistake and he would probably swap volk and Izzy.

The difference here is Khabib retired on his own terms, while Dominick was cursed with injuries. No one can recover from that while you're constantly aging. Time beat Dominick, while Khabib was still on his prime.

still not really a good argument, thats like putting TKZ on the list, he was robbed of his prime years for mandatory military service but potential cant be a deciding factor in a GOAT tier list imo @@Zombade80

​@@Zombade80 and? he still contradicted himself

@@noctiuagus1369 No, he didn't. The context of Khabib and Dominic are very different. If those two were in a similar situation, then it'd count as a contradiction

@@Zombade80 It doesn't matter because either scenario does not add more to your resume/record. If someone argued in favor of Dominic Cruz, I would not accept that. If someone argued in favor of Khabib Nurmagomedov, I would not accept that.

Ah same, I didn’t notice till you said it. Longest Lw streak and supreme conditioning and the boogeyman for years

Agree 100 percent

Probably genuinely forgot about him tbh

With all due respect, I disagree. He fell of quite hard, plus he's never been a champion

No it wasn’t khabib was gone win all 5 rounds

Facts

I wish he had stayed hungry. He was so smart though to understand without the hunger the lion can't fight.

You had us in the first half not gonna lie

you really think GSP was clean his whole career? kids at the gym start taking steroids right after 2 weeks of training and you're talking about elite UFC fighters being clean? get a grip man! just cuz Jon got caught doesn't mean he's the only one.

@@mkyashar91nuh uh

You're stuck in the Machida Era.

@@Tri_Beam If YOU'RE going to talk sh/t, at least get YOUR elementary school grammar in check. Otherwise you just look stupid.

@@Tri_Beam doesn't make sense

@@Tri_Beam fr

Machida is better than fucking Hendo 💀

Undefeated undisputed

Thank you mate! I know it’s a subject for contention! I think it’s super super super close though, and feel like you can swap anyone of them 4 on any given day!

Man I'd put him next to Jones. I feel like he before that Gane fight he was Number One but it was close. Now it's even. What most people don't remember is that in One Flyweight is 135 lbs so he was a champ in two divisions

You can and should hate this list.

@@MixedMartialAcademic Well, i am disappointed in you young man. Shame on you.

​@@adrapolska671 if you don't care about PEDs, a shit ton of eye pokes that can't be accidental and real-world crimes than he was number one even before the gane fight. If you do than he will never be the GOAT. IMO the GOAT needs to also represent the sport and i don't want Jones to represent my favorite sport. Mighty mouse all the way

These cats are too young. Context is crucial with Wandy. That dude used to give me nightmares.

Wanderlei and Cain used to haunt my nightmares.

That dude got slept by Krazyhorse. He needs to be swapped with Charles.

IWANNANOW

And then he appeared... Mirko CroCop

Lmao bus. The roid era pride beasts would stomp some of these new dudes

I agree. There are VERY FEW knowledgeable fans 25 and under nowadays. I'm born in '83 and I was 10 when I saw UFC 1. My gramma had the black cheat box, so all ppvs/movies/p*rno were free. And it was because of that 3 hour long BJJ commercial in Nov. '93 is how I found out about the p*rno. I was 10.5 and never really stayed up that late. AND by myself. Flicked through the handful of ppv channels and just accidentally stumbled upon 2 naked ppl doing it. My love for UFC and @$$ came in the same night, one after another. I'm 40 and fighting and screwing are still my two favorite things. All thanks to Gramma having the cheat box and an early bed time.

@@JamesHeinrich-vk7vz that’s beautiful bro. I’ve always said that life is all about the F’s. Fighting, F***ing, Food, Family, Friends, and Fun. We didn’t have the cheat box but my cousins did, so every time they had everyone over for big PPV events, us kids would be watching the skinamax channels later that night. Channels 22-25.

@@HighFightIQ YEA!!! I'm from Toronto, and if I'm not mistaken, it was 102-105 on our cheat box. I remember my Gramma would sometimes come out cus she couldn't sleep and would grab the remote and ALWAYS FORGET THE FIRST MOVIE CHANNEL AFTER 11PM IS THE DIRTY, so she'd go "let's see what movies are on" and flick to 102 and there'd be some dude getting topped CRAZY and she'd start fumbling the remote "omg, omg, JESUS" lmao. God I love the UFC.

none of the old heads are even in his top 10 tho

​@@jootpepet imagine bj pen trying to beat colby, usman,isreal or pereira, ufc has come along way. Even Aldo, he's biggest fights are against Connor and max and he lost badly. He's overrated.

@@thialhoinj1971 adesanya and pereira are middleweight man, BJ was lightweight/welterweight. Nnot sure you know what you're talking about

@@thialhoinj1971 also Usman aint a pushover, he defended 15 times, BJ could possibly beat him sure but Usman has better credentials, idk why u gotta pull any of them down

5*

thank you man! thanks so much for watching and subing it means a lot!

Fedor was a beast and like he said the docu is deep. I wish he would have left the game on top. I love him for spitting in UFCs Face

I really do believe fedor was overated. He sure was a beast in Pride but he had a lukewarm career when performing in the US (where the competition was arguably better - we can compare old records from pride champions who moved to the US and definitely faced more defeats). Unlike Anderson Silva, who fought only top 5 contenders waaaayy past his prime, Fedor fought similar level (post-prime) competition, and failed to gain momentum. He was good - and many saw him as the best in the early 00's -, but, in my opinion, although he was a beast against the early generation of arguably one-sided MMA fighters (who were either good at striking or grappling, but not good at both), he just wasn't as good when facing fighters trained in the more well-rounded post-GSP-era.

kid cro cop was a beast

@@oohlala5394 I genuinely cant believe anyone can call fedor overrated. Serious disrespect man. I support Fedor for giving ufc the middle finger but this is the consequence. Ufc has become so mainstream that anyone who doesnt set foot there has their whole career questioned. That man was a sight to behold in his prime. Till today i still dont understand how he survived randleman and even went on to win the match. There is a reason why Khabib put him at the top of his Goat list next to Jones as the greatest to ever do it. There is a reason why he is the only fighter in mma history who made almost all the old legends come to pay him homage in his last fight

So, you like when one person spits in another person's face? That's a little weird. "I love how that girl just SPIT in her bf's face, YA!!! F*CK HIM!!!" lol.

Stop hating, he ended dj crazy undeafted run, close fight but dj looked invincible for a decade before fighting Henry, than Henry tko steriod head dj, moved up and tko cruz like never before and became doubt champ He has 2 loses and beat them both.

Meanwhile Aldo is a tier above and he's biggest fights by far are Connor and max and he destroyed 3 times. That's overrated.

@@thialhoinj1971 hating? Please enlighten me: tell me EXACTLY which sentence I said that wasn’t an objective fact? I’ll return to this comment eagerly. The fact that you call it “hating” while not being able to identify a falsity proves my statement valid. And if it’s valid, you sure you’re not projecting? Maybe you’re not so secure in his status? Meanwhile, your comment has flat out incorrect info. EPO is not “steroids”. Full stop. Please note I said nothing more, nothing less. Anything you add you’ve done on your own to my statement. Net, I could care less how Henry’s legacy is remembered. I don’t work for him nor am I related. I’m just a guy. But it’s factually accurate that he he fought a Dom 1,000 days beyond his last contest and a DJ who resorted to EPO to cut the final pounds (I was a collegiate runner I’m very familiar with what EPO does which is highly relevant). And I only comment on DJ bc YOU. Notice I never mentioned that fight in my comment. You went out of your way to incorrectly attribute steroids to him to weaponize the status of the win to suit your narrative.

@@CYMotorsport you're hating because you are reaching for excuses. epo , steroids, the point is tj was cheating lol. Cruz goes out for 2 years and it means nothing, he's done it many times and never lost any speed or skills. He's like Jones or gsp. He's the last guy to make excuses but here you are. Hater.

@@thialhoinj1971 You brought up EPO, remember? Remember when I anticipated that and made that perfectly clear prior to you attempting this broken logic ? It was obvious you’d cling to that as your olive branch but I already removed it sir. Be a man enough to admit you’re incorrect claiming I brought up ANY thing steroids or EPO. I simply corrected a factual inaccuracy. And even said this prior to your responding. YOU brought up “steroids”. I also never brought up Dom’s absence in my original comment. Will you knowledge you incorrectly attributed this to me to suit your own rationalization? I simply said yet another objective truth: the fight was stopped at the closing bell of the round which is questionable. Operating word: “questionable”. Fighting through a knockdown if there’s some level of scramble when the shots aren’t sleeping a fighter is expected to granted universally. Before you object, HENRY even said this: “is it me or do all these referees now days stop fights due to knockdowns? Give these guys a opportunity to fight back. A knockdown is not a knockout!” Mind you, he said this in direct response to Kopylov faceplanting Chirico lol so yeah mate that’s questionably even if I’m conservative. That doesn’t even provide commentary on whether I agree or who I think won. Yet you’re getting emotional on a diatribe about excuses. When you are the sole person who introduced a SINGLE one. I did however reference another fighter. But it wasn’t Dom. Do you really not know who i was referring to? I didn’t say his name bc I figured you were capable of checking which I still believe. I find it odd and interesting you have gone out of your way to move goal posts and avoid the reality that the form of that fighter I referenced has been, unfortunately for his career, blatantly evident. Answer my question as I said to your response in the first place: what part about ANY of my original comment is inaccurate? Stop adding things that YOU offered up without thinking the ramifications of your own argument prior to introducing. Below is my original comment bc you don’t seem to be referencing facts anymore. Please consult the below: “… Took an interim strap over a guy who has lost 6 of his last 7 only to defend a very questionable stoppage a couple seconds before the round ends.“ And again, just so you don’t feel the urge to anger type without thinking: tell me what sad factually Incorrect in my original statement that constitutes an excuse. Please don’t run or side step or move goal posts. You made a claim I’m holding you firmly to it to answer and I will refresh this often to read your response. I respected you enough to be specific and on topic. I ask you afford me the same courtesy. Or in the least I’ll take your honesty and not more lies.

You can't say GSP without Matt Hughes...

It’s Jon Jones and it’s not debatable

@@krispybananaz Drug cheat. Unbelievable fighter. Piece of shit human being.

@Clipped You do realize Silva popped for steroids, correct? EDIT: Also, let's not forget GSP lost against Hendricks who had more juice in him than a Tropicana factory. That loss should be erased from his record considering after Hendricks got popped he was never the same fighter.

GSP probably juiced as well, had greasegate, didn't have a lot of finishes and arguably lost to hendricks and retires immediately after. DJ is the GOAT

Tell me about it ahahaha 😂 GGs to my channel

@@MixedMartialAcademic This is the single worse thing Academics has ever done. Only Napoleon can save him now.

A true legend was Anderson.. Unfortunately both for his fighting and then stupidity.. It was incredible how devastating Silva would become; and incredibly stupid that he lost, then got injured and had to retire, all because of his taunting.. It's about trying to make it look easy for some fighters, but that and or taunting can lead to a whole career thrown away, as Anderson Silva would prove.. So disappointed that he didn't get to show us his full talent and career, as he had a fighting ability I don't think anyone else ever quite matched up to!

Kabib analogy spot on many fighters move up/down to search for the two division family aside I think he lost interest when his father and his dreams/expectations died brilliant docu/piece

Ronda

@@CF1091 lol

@@jootpepet kkk

Three things that halted Khabib's legacy Injuries: When he beat the future lw chap prime RDA at age 24 back in 2014 he was just couple months away from achieving his dream but major injuries kept him sidelined for 2 years and the man was contemplating whether he should retire but his father convinced him Dana's Privilege: In 2016 Khabib was suppose to be scheduled against Eddie Alvarez for the lw title, but Dana gifted the fw champ Conor (who has yet to defended his belt) a title shot at lw and after beating Eddie held both division for a year and a half boxing Floyd Early retirement: The guy predicted his retirement a decade ago at 24 in an interview and won't risk his health any further having grander plan to achieve and another factor that played was Makhachev's time to claim that strap. He could have squeezed in 3 more title defenses if it wasn't for the 9 months suspension, COVID and his late Father dying who meant everything to him.

Regardless of if he knew it still makes the win less impressive. He beat a guy with 1 arm

Not really lol he won the belt by getting outstruck for 5 rounds then defended it in the most boring way possible then beat on an old broken man

@@nervouspanic5286 lmao hater with 0 knowledge

Sure it's not his fault but that doesn't change the fact he was fighting a one armed man in a punching contest.

Common sense take on aljo***

Band wagon fan .recency biased fan . Peasant . That’s what you are loser

Alls after smoking a pack of nonfilters to boot. Saku was a beast of nature

He's too young to know Sakuraba.

@@Pyryp2 I'm younger than he is.This is not a matter of age but research,which he does prettt well.He,s included other fighters from that time.

@@greyheart3001 Yes but he has a clear recency bias toward fighters he has experienced, as shown by having Fedor on tier 3.

Dominick had to retire because of constant injuries. Khabib retired on his on terms during his prime.

@@Zombade80that doesn’t make it any less of a contradiction kiddo…

Cris cyborg is one of the best female fighters of all time!!!!

I think there should be a second list for the females.

ohn Jones PED user is the GOAT? The John Jones who should have lost the fights if the judges weren't biased? Of course, he is easily Tier 2, but the Goat? Nah.

He was an animal

His speed and reaction time was weird man

Who the fuck is this guy??

Why is volk so low 😒

@@aidanalariccrosshe’s fw goat but not that high on goat list and that’s coming form a massive volk fan

thank you mate!

yea you have a point, but the substances you’re talking about are blow (which was out of his system pre fight)and a substance that’s now been legalized by USDA. so even if he was juiced they never caught him with anything detrimental to his GOAT status imo.

@@ivanpenev1039 He popped for both Hydroxy-Clomiphene and Letrozole in 2016, Turinabol in 2017, and the picograms situation in 2018. Whether he was telling the truth about how he didn't take and was being set up or not, you pop once, it muddles your legacy (for me personally). It's the same with TJ Dillashaw, he popped once after his bout with Cejudo and now his whole career is in question. You may not agree with me and that's fine, but this is my line of thinking.

Don’t worry, hold off on the riot!

@@MixedMartialAcademicthis is a rroberey

@@MixedMartialAcademic I can’t Believe Bob Sapp isn’t on this list. Shoutout to Napoleon Blownapart!

I think he got khabib wrong tbh but u ig there only so many spots in tier 2

They are easily on one level with Khabib Both had better competition

Not really, don't disrespect Usman's legacy

I don't think you know how tiers work

Why is there an exception for Jon jones, if you looked at it objectively he’s the single greatest combat athlete the worlds ever seen.

@@jaydenolcay7346 Because he was on roids during most of his old fights. Jon Jones is hands down not the goat of UFC, unless a goat is someone who use illegal drugs in mix martial arts.

@@repeatinfinite_ then neither is GSP, Anderson Silva, or basically 99% of people you would consider the goat of mixed martial arts. Everyone has at one point or another taken PEDs. To think otherwise is ridiculous and the argument that it effects your legacy is bullshit, people don’t like Jon because he’s the best and they never will be on that level.

@@jaydenolcay7346 Proven my point, Jon has been caught multiple times taking drugs and steroids, GSP never did. Apparently you are on drugs too to think drugs doesnt affect legacy, when he legit built half his career while on drugs. Also stop meat riding and accusing other MMA's athletes of using drugs with no evidences, you're just mad and pathetic because JJ will never be a respectable athlete or on the level of people who dont take peds. You can cry me a river but it still wont change the fact hes a drug user and nothing more. L

@@repeatinfinite_ They are all cheating

you dont have good conditioning

@malemasterrace478 oh so you are conditioned to absorb 400 strikes in five rounds then? When's your next fight?

@@KM-iv9xy Im a kickboxer and actually I have absorbed shots like that ...if youre a fighter , you NEED to be conditioned its not always about hitting others Also next fight's this August ..its a pro boxing match

@@KM-iv9xy I can tell from your comment only that you dont fight nor fo any striking sports ..cause you say you would be sore from throwing 400+ punches in a session ... Well I run 10k before heading to the gym ..and then do sparing , padwork , bagwork ...never counted how many punches but its easily 2000+..fighters can take hits cause they are conditioned ..and there are some freaks out there who will take shots to the chin intentionally

@malemasterrace478 no, you're wrong. I don't care what your opinion is, and I didn't ask for it either I don't care to justify or argue with some shit talking kid on the internet so I'll leave it at that. Good luck in your fight 👍

lol, I just wrote a very similar thing. too true. that stretch when all he fought was Gray and BJ with all those instant rematches was amazing, while ludicrous that all other matchups were ignored... (and then Aldo loses to a fluke to McGregor and doesn't get a rematch?) Edgar v Maynard best trilogy ever. Edgar v Penn second best. Edgar is the legend that no one acknowledges.

Wow, thank you!

@@MixedMartialAcademic Jones PED user is the GOAT? The John Jones who should have lost the fights if the judges weren't biased? Of course, he is easily Tier 2, but the Goat?

Convincingly beat volk? Tell me you are a casual without telling me

Big facts. Even if he beat GSP defence record, I'd still have GSP ahead based on competition And if that's the case izzy should go down too... only notable win is against Whittaker n he arguably lost the second one. Alex should already be ahead of him... he at least competed better when he moves up as well

Yeah I agree to be honest. Still great accomplishments but deffinatley should be moved down!

Yall are devaluing shit. Israel has over 100 fights and lost 7 times to 4 people, he lost to 4 people in his whole life , 44 stoppages across the board

​@@MixedMartialAcademic man you do know how hated usman is right? He ended Woodley, who at the time was one of the best welterweights ever, beat Mia, dose anjos, colby twice, Jorge twice, had The second longest run in ufc. Only because he lost to Leon doesn't drop into top 15 ever lol. Meanwhile Aldos biggest 3 fights are against max and Conor and he got destroyed 3 times. These comments section is bias because they hate usman and love people like Aldo.

​@@thelastmarketbender8656 people just hate how cocky he is and usman so they let that blind them from seeing everything they have done.

Hendricks fight

Hendricks was a close fight but little compared to the reyes fight

@@deepzyoti13 you can’t be considered the GOAT if you never test yourself

@@deepzyoti13 Beat Hendricks.

@@deuelellan2446lay and pray St Pierre is not the goat. Get over it.

Lance Armstrong is the Goat. What you don't understand is all these fighters and cyclists are on PED's. And I mean ALL of them. Some get called out and the losers don't. They do anything it takes to be the best. So the losers on PED'S aren't as good as the Winner's on PED'S.

Thanks mate I appreciate that a lot! And it’s all good we can disagree, who would you have too 4 personally?

​@@MixedMartialAcademic I don't even disagree with your list tbh. JBJ has to be #1, Silva #4, GSP and Mighty Mouse a toss-up depending on which factors you weigh more heavily. Sad that we never got to see a Johnson-Cejudo trilogy.

Ya Conor don’t get enough credit???? easy fan boy. Also putting Aldo in tier 2 your crazy hes good but not a tier 2 goat

Aldo biggest fights are against Conor and max and he got destroyed 3 time. He's overrated

@@thialhoinj1971 Casual